Mine Crews Struggle To Drill Relief Holes

Rescue of Six Men Trapped In Utah Mine Is Still Days Away

(CBS/AP)  Rescue crews clinging to a mountainside struggled Wednesday to drill two narrow holes — one just 2½ inches across, the other less than 9 inches — in a painfully slow effort to bring air and food to six miners trapped in a cave-in.

Officials held out hope that the men survived Monday's thunderous collapse and that the emergency supplies would help keep them alive while other rescuers tried to punch their way through the rubble in the mine shaft and bring them out.

The crews drilling the two parallel relief holes made encouraging progress Wednesday and could break through by Friday, said Bob Murray, chairman of mine co-owner Murray Energy Corp.

"I consider this to be very, very good news," he said. But it could take at least seven days to actually reach the men and bring them out, Murray said.

The drilling of the relief holes involved boring an extraordinary 1,500 feet straight down, or 150 stories into the earth, through hard sandstone — a task that required precise alignment of the drill and posed the constant risk of a broken bit.

Nothing has been heard from the men since the cave-in, not even the hammering on the ceiling that miners are trained to do in an emergency.

The parallel effort to clear a path inside the blocked mine suffered a major setback Tuesday when seismic shocks wiped out all progress in removing rubble.

Murray offered no estimate on how long the miners could survive — that is, if they are still alive — but backed off a claim Tuesday that they could subsist for perhaps weeks on available air.

"The oxygen depends on the size of the cavity they are in, and I have no idea what size that cavity is," he said Wednesday.

The task illustrated the specific dangers associated with the type of deep mining practiced in the West, where the terrain is rougher than it is in Appalachia and the coal mines are dug far, far deeper into the earth.

Murray’s Crandall canyon mine has had 324 safety violations in the past four years, reports CBS News correspondent John Blackstone. But violations can be as minor as a misplaced wrench, and it's not uncommon for mines to have hundreds of citations. Only violations that present an imminent danger of injury or death can get a mine closed down, and Crandall Canyon had none of those.

Over the past few days, the rescuers had to bulldoze 8,000 feet of road across the wilderness and use a helicopter to bring in heavy equipment. They had to balance their drilling rig on a 23-degree mountainside. And then they had to begin boring 1,500 feet straight down into the earth.

The circumstances made the rescue operation "extremely hard, one of the toughest we've had to deal with," said Allyn Davis, who oversees Western mine safety operations for the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration.

[MarianoApologeticus]

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[jb01201a]

Thanks to Reagan, the Bushes and the conservative attitude towards regulation and safety,

Now its Reagans fault and he is dead. You people are fools.

[condumism]

Posted by jb01201a

This Neocon is proud of this president and this Neocon is glad you are not in government, Bye the way, fool, I don't come from the south and I think you are a fool.

Back to my original point NEOCON! Beaurocrats that have come into government since 1981 care about nothing more than their retirement. These self-centered pigs, such as YOURSELF, could care less about the regulations put in place to level the playing field between big and small business, but only care about their retirement! Only a moron educated in the US public education system since Ronald Reagan destroyed public education in America would still be confused by my statements, such as yourself, an oblivious NEOCON NAZI LOVER!

[jb01201a]

Well lookie here:
Thanks the Gods for NEOCONS such as yourself, who's published ignorance guarantees the Democrats will not only win the presidency in 2008,

This Neocon is proud of this president and this Neocon is glad you are not in government, then we me a commni state. But this facist is still glad George and Dick are in the white house.

Bye the way, fool, I don't come from the south and I think you are a fool.

[condumism]

Posted by rightrevtodd

Thank God for Fred Thompson. He will be the savior of this country. He is the only one who can beat hillary and that guy who wants to bomb pakistan.

Thanks the Gods for NEOCONS such as yourself, who's published ignorance guarantees the Democrats will not only win the presidency in 2008, but will also control the US Congress for at least the next 2 generations. KEEP IT UP NEOCONS! after 26 years the USA is finally seeing you folk ro what you all are: AMERICA'S SOUTHERN INBRED'S!

[rightrevtodd]

Thank God for Fred Thompson. He will be the savior of this country. He is the only one who can beat hillary and that guy who wants to bomb pakistan.

[condumism]

jb01201 a SOUTHERN NEOCON posted:
The latter, spinless beaurocrats only concerned about their retirement, is what we get with a conservative fascist gocvernment.

Only a SOUHTERN NEOCON would try to refute my remarks, which are based upon facts, the number one enemy of the neocon FASCIST slim machine of hate and slander towards any facts that get in your way. You're an obvious self-centered moron, same as all of you Group Of Pigs! Nowhere did I infer your hero GW Bush in my comments. All of you NEOCONS are fascists, not just the pigs that you elect to public office. If you hate America so much, GET OUT, YOU SELF-CENTERED FASCCIST PIG!

[jb01201a]

Well lookie here;
Another stupid lib remark:
. The latter, spinless beaurocrats only concerned about their retirement, is what we get with a conservative fascist gocvernment.
Did Georgie and Dickie do "pearl harbor" as well ?
You people on the left are stupid and sick as well. Yet somehow, these events are always pointed towards Georgie ! Amazing!

[nothappyatall]

" She also said there was no interpreter for three Spanish-speaking families."

This is the USA, if you want to live and work here then freaking LEARN ENGLISH!!! I'm tired of these moron foreigners coming in here expecting US to change street signs, print bi-lingual krap for them and otherwise bow down to them because they refuse to LEARN English.
The interpretor shold tell those 3 familes in Spanish; "go learn English and then we will fill you in on the mine accident"

[condumism]

Hope this has a happy ending! But in today's FASCIST USA, a capitalistic free-for-all, where the self-centered *** who have controlled the US government for the past 25 years expected voluntary compliance of health and safety in the workplace and NO REGULATION, I fear the worst for these poor souls and their families. Voluntary compliance of safety and health only works for those. that can afford to know how to accomplish such, ie: HUGE CORPORATIONS. The playing field will never be level for the small businees man such as this mining operation in Utah. Only with federal regulations and beaurocrats with backbone to enforce such regs wil small and big business be able to compete side-by-side. The latter, spinless beaurocrats only concerned about their retirement, is what we get with a conservative fascist gocvernment.

[nothappyatall]

And also if I had a family member down there, I'd already be starting a lawsuit against this mining executive, not the mine,
mormonman1

Wouldn't work, that is why corporations exist- to shield the people in it from personal liability- you have to sue "the company" "the corporation" which is limited. What does a mining company own? some used machines that are only good for mining use, trucks and a hole in the ground.
Would be like trying to get blood from a stone, or suing a 10 year old kid for $50 million.

[nothappyatall]

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[michellem99-2009]

they say it days before the men are free.
Yet we know not the personal hell in there.
While their loved ones gather for answers
That man feeds them not what they wish to hear.
So do they toil on or make small talk.
While people enjoy the fruits of their labours
Do we ever thank the labours for what thay do.
May be we should.
Will it be joy for the families or their tears.
Let's get them gents out alive.

[tnt1954]

ah the wonders of the free market. guy discovers
oil well and gold mine in his backyard tract
house in kalamazoo, michigan, begins oil
company and gold mining company right then
and there, with offices in his garage.

[tnt1954]

ban all mining. revert to stone age living.
civilization is of the devil. shuttle launch
just obliterated a lotta the atmsophere.
but the 'smart' fools fly on. we exploit
this planet, leave it and it is a cinder
of ash behind us. forward ho?

[bobgee_1999]

camposanto: Have you given any thought to psychiatric help?

[michellem99-2009]

It is heart breaking to know that there is an illegal war overseas but to turn their backs and walk out when answers are needed now is not right FOR the families of the gents trapprd.Sorry get them out now not 2 days from now. IF he is pissed can him.

[gowest2day]

FYI: MSHA has total control of any and all decisions and actions made in the effort to rescue these miners and has been in control from the moment they arrived on site. At this point Robert Murray is in a support position. He supplies anything that is needed and anything that MSHA requests. In the past I was employed by Robert Murray. Let me say the reason I left his employment was due to the fact that I disapproved of his business ethics and just couldn't stomach him any longer. Having said that, I did witness under his ownership the result of his drive, dedication and financial backing in saving one of the largest underground coal mines in the USA that suffered a mine fire. Murray is a jerk, no way getting around that. Today there is over 600 employees still making a good living in an area with a repressed economy due to Robert Murray. MSHA ran the show but Murray wrote the checks. In his behalf I can assure you he won't give up.

[fridak-2009]

Gee, Politicus, you must be right. Of course, if there have been tremors below the mine for weeks, the managment should be considered criminals for sending miners in there. I guess it's ok to send them in to mine coal when there are tremors, but not to rescue....

[fridak-2009]

Gee, Politicus, you must be right. Of course, if there have been tremors below the mine for weeks, the managment should be considered criminals for sending miners in there. I guess it's ok to send them in to mine coal when there are tremors, but not to rescue....