New Yorker: CIA Tactics Amount To Torture

Magazine: The CIA Used Techniques Equivalent To Torture While Interrogating 9/11 Mastermind

(CBS)  The Central Intelligence Agency used "enhanced interrogation techniques" synonymous with torture while interrogating September 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, according to a New Yorker article that appears on newsstands Monday.

After Mohammed's capture in Pakistan in 2003, the CIA detained him at one of several secret overseas prisons, known as "black sites," and subjected him to unusually harsh treatment, according to the article.

It was under these interrogation methods that Mohammed confessed to 31 criminal plots, including the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who was captured in 2002 in Pakistan and beheaded, Jane Mayer reports in the New Yorker.

Mohammed's interrogation was part of a fine-tuned CIA protocol of psychological coercion against al Qaeda figures, according to sources familiar with an International Red Cross report, Mayer writes.

"The Red Cross went in and got to interview these people for the first time," said Mayer on the CBS Evening News. "What these people described was hanging from the ceilings by their arms and being water-boarded, partially drowned, put on leashes and knocked into walls and basically deprived of all kinds of sensory imagery for years."

At a hearing in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Mohammed said his testimony was freely given, Mayer adds, but he also said that he had been abused by the CIA.

"He was certainly coerced," Mayer told Russ Mitchell on Sunday. "These were certainly very coercive techniques. The problem with them is that you can't really tell what's reliable, what's the truth, what's not after somebody has been through these things."

Mayer's article further described the CIA program of physical and psychological abuse as completely regimented and deliberate.

"There have always been mistakes made in the past when prisoners have been abused in wars," Mayer told Mitchell. "But this is the first time it's been done on purpose."

The program was suspended last fall, following a Supreme Court ruling, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, which ruled that all U.S. detainees must be treated in a manner consisted with the Geneva Conventions.

In an E-mail to CBS News the CIA responded that the article "recycles old allegations" and concluded by saying "the United States does not conduct or condone torture."

[kesac4650]

It might be phsycological warfare, but it isn't torture. In medeaval times persons were broken in body and mind. That was torture.
KSM and every other of these people so questioned are instead left capable of performing every act and retaining every skill they ever had.
If they could play the piano, they still can. If they can plot, manufacture bombs, or commit murder, they still have that ability.
Sleep deprivation, loneliness, and water boarding are not torture. They cause no great pain nor any humiliation. Those practices have saved American lives by the tens of thousands, yet we still have whiners complaining about these killers being discomforted .

[golfkt]

so they were "tortured"....so what...this was a 911 leader....do what needs to be done....i question the reliabilty issue also..Those that raise that issue are anti torture proponents..

[incog-nito]

You people need to be waterboarded a few times to see if it's torture or not.

[johnshaft4]

It is getting a bit fuzzy around the edges as to who the "terrorists" are...

[tasmhs]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, the operational leader who plotted the whole thing out. I'm supposed to feel bad that he got roughed up a little bit? Are you kidding me? A suitable punishment for him would have been a public hanging at the site of where the Twin Towers used to be. Guilty of conspiracy to commit the murder of almost 3,000 people.

[djconklin]

"i question the reliabilty issue also..Those that raise that issue are anti torture proponents."

Experts in witness interrogation will tell you that its not reliable--these people will tell you virtually anything they may think you want to hear in order to get the torture to stop.

Somer people here are confusing punishment for what he did for interrogation to get more leads, etc..

[djconklin]

"Those practices have saved American lives by the tens of thousands,"

Unfortunately, we have no evidence to support that claim.

"yet we still have whiners complaining about these killers being discomforted"

That's not the point at all--the question is which interrogation method works--torture does not, never has, never will.

[feelfree1]

With all of the activities that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admitted" under torture, I'd say that they were just a couple of sessions short of getting him to "confess" to shooting JFK.

We can glean at least a couple of truisms from this article:

1) Since Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has "admitted" to being the "mastermind%u201D of the 9/11/01 attacks, and this "confession" is accepted by some, it stands to reason that Osama bin Laden was NOT the "mastermind%u201D of the 9/11/01 attacks, which would explain why he is not wanted by the FBI for these events.

2) Our CIA is, at least in part, a multi-billion dollar global terrorist network, complete with kidnapping teams, secret prisons, and torture chambers, and they have no credibility in identifying anyone else as a "terrorist".

[tasmhs]

feelfree1,

Bin Laden financed the overall goals of the plan. KSM was the one who put it into action. Very big distinction. A CEO of a company/organization (Bin Laden) outlines the plan and then delegates authority to subordinates (KSM) to carry out the plan.

That is an important distinction.

Also, I'll take the CIA over Al Queda any day of the week. They are working to save your lame *** whether you like it or not.

Since you have volunteered to be the defense attorney for Bin Laden and KSM, you need to be corrected on your comments.

[j-whitman]

fperra - Why has Bush always been so very wrong ???

[feelfree1]

tasmhs,

Re: "I'll take the CIA over Al Queda any day of the week."

What leads you to believe that these are not overlapping terrorist organizations?

Is bin Laden not a past (present?) CIA asset?
Have you ever seen his pink slip?

[ioweign]

It might be phsycological warfare, but it isn't torture. In medeaval times persons were broken in body and mind. That was torture.
KSM and every other of these people so questioned are instead left capable of performing every act and retaining every skill they ever had.
If they could play the piano, they still can. If they can plot, manufacture bombs, or commit murder, they still have that ability.
Sleep deprivation, loneliness, and water boarding are not torture. They cause no great pain nor any humiliation. Those practices have saved American lives by the tens of thousands, yet we still have whiners complaining about these killers being discomforted .
Posted by kesac4650 at 07:15 PM : Aug 05, 2007



Do you still feel that way when it is applied to our troops when they are captured?

Or is it the next thing to come to a Water Park near you!!! Talk about Wet-N-Wild!!

[cbs_oliver]

Those who practice torture as part of a strategy may wish to see a certain amount of publicity.

So long as it does not result in verifiable ending of torture, the publicity will induce terror in prisoners and terror of becoming a prisoner in others.

[ioweign]

Right on kesac4650. And if this had happend under Clinton's watch all these bleading heart liberals would be responding with nothing but praise. This isn't about torture, it's about blind hatred for GWB, who has the balls to stand up and do what's right.
Posted by fperra at 08:40 PM : Aug 05, 2007



And it was the Republicans that cried when Clinton fired Cruise missiles at bin Laden in 1998.

In response to the 1998 United States embassy bombings following the fatwa, President Bill Clinton ordered a freeze on assets that could be linked to bin Laden. Clinton also signed an executive order, authorizing bin Laden's arrest or assassination. In August 1998, the U.S. launched an attack using cruise missiles. The attack failed to harm bin Laden but killed 19 other people.

[feelfree1]

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

[radiob-2009]

If one stoops to ones enemys techniques does one not become ones own enemy? There are ways to derive information from a captive that have been used effectively that do not include water boarding or hanging someone from a ceiling.

[myidoncbs]

Whoever said this: "Sleep deprivation, loneliness, and water boarding are not torture. They cause no great pain nor any humiliation."

Is either insane, or a f@#$%ing ***!

Sleep deprivation, by itself, can drive any person totally insane. And, can you even imagine what it is like to be tied naked to a board and submerged in a vat of cold water, not knowing if you will drown, and being held there until just before (and sometimes, just after) you run out of air? Can you imagine what it is like to go through that over and over and over again, for years, without any hope of ever being released? For God's sake, man, the dreaded "Chinese water torture" simply consisted of a drop of water falling on your head, drip, drip, drip, and it drove people completely insane!

When Bush and his gang of violent criminal conspirators say "We don't torture" they mean: "We define 'torture' as *** and we do YYY, therefore 'we don't torture'." Anybody who falls for that line of bull deserves the eternal war that Cheney and Bush plan for us all.

By condoning torture, our government has sunk to the level of savage beasts. Those who support torture, whether or not they admit it is torture, are likewise animals. They are not fit to participate in any human society.

[pjn440]

At least the CIA didn't hack his head off while he screamed, or burn him alive, or force him to plunge hundreds of feet to his death.
I think they are on the high ground here...

[skyk-2009]

At least the CIA didn't hack his head off while he screamed, or burn him alive, or force him to plunge hundreds of feet to his death.
I think they are on the high ground here...
Posted by pjn440 at 09:37 PM : Aug 05, 2007

Yeah ain't that great... at least our guys aren't as bad as their guys! ROFLMAO Wonder how many future terrorist that will prevent from strapping on Explosives to blow us up? ROFLMAO When you are fighting a game of Hatred, you can't afford to be NOT quite as bad...

[cbs_oliver]

The right thing to do is to treat torturers like other monsters and terrorists - according to the law.

[skyk-2009]

Right on kesac4650. And if this had happend under Clinton's watch all these bleading heart liberals would be responding with nothing but praise. This isn't about torture, it's about blind hatred for GWB, who has the balls to stand up and do what's right.
Posted by fperra at 08:40 PM : Aug 05, 2007

You know this how? You Fascist ALWAYS know what people are going to say and do when they didn't do anything or say anything. It's just amazing how you, with your VERY small and insignificant little minds, know these things. The FACT is that President Clinton NEVER ordered people TORTURED and President Clinton did NOT lie to We the People about it... so why sling your mud at your neighbors and fellow citizens.... especially those who KNOW how to fight and win against Terrorist. I'm sure glad you clowns were on the OTHER side in our fight with the Klan... They'd still be lynching Blacks in Mississippi other wise.

[cbs_oliver]

It is sadly predictable that news stories from Iraq over the next few weeks originating from US sources will change in character to include references to bodies found dead with "evidence of having been tortured".

They may even mention drills.

That's how reporting from US sources changed in the past when US torture practices were first revealed.

[mcvet]

I KNEW Bush was LYING when he said He wasn't torturing people... he comes from an enviroment of the Klan and torture and that's about all they know. God but these people are embarrassing but when they are THIS embarrassing AND getting the royal Butt Kicking they are getting it becomes DANGEROUS. As a great leader during the Freedom Rides during the sixty's said, YOU can not do or act like the enemy to win. You MUST be better so those in the middle, those on the fence, will want to join YOUR fight and YOUR cause. That's the problem we face today. The rest of the world can't figure this nation out. They can't understand why we have taken the low road and elected a Klan Man to run the nation. Maybe thats why they think the Leader of North Korea is better... NORTH KOREA for God's sake... We can't get this trash out of our White House soon enough and we need to elect someone who is ABOVE this kind of KLAN action. It's disgusting and its beneth this nations dignity. Sieg Heil Y'all.

[mcvet]

At least the CIA didn't hack his head off while he screamed, or burn him alive, or force him to plunge hundreds of feet to his death.
I think they are on the high ground here...
Posted by pjn440 at 09:37 PM : Aug 05, 2007

So you're saying, at this point anyway, you THINK we're a little better than Al Qaeda! That's not real confronting when your enemy has used your tactics to completely rebuild... not real confronting at all. Sieg Heil Y'all.

[mcvet]

Have we yet to define what torture is?? Have the libs defined what torture is? To them it may be a knockoff purse. Who the heck knows.
All I know is, as long as this guy left with all his nails intact with toes and fingers as well as a tongue, I could care less. You got it, could care less.
Besides he looks like he could afford to shed a few pounds.
Posted by janem4 at 08:17 PM : Aug 05, 2007

You Nazi's and your One Party Rule is totally disgusting. The Geneva Convention DEFINES Torture you pathetic loser! God no wonder we're getting the c-r-a-p kicked out of us... no wonder our enemy has totally and completely rebuilt. With garbage like The Klan Man and people like you as poster childern, who in this world wouldn't want to blow us up? At the rate we're going there may not be anything left to save in 18 months... We've lost the fight WORLD WIDE for the hearts and minds of the people and right now if this nation were attacked I seriously doubt we've have anyone come to our aid. In fact, when you look at the southern fascist who run the Republican Party, the rest of the world may be ready to help them. Sieg Heil Bush!!

[rafterman1]

The righties will argue "boo-hoo liberals, a terrorist was tortured". But of course, they will be missing the point. America is an honorable country. At least it used to be before the neocons took charge. America is not supposed to do things like torture. We are the white hats - the good guys. Torture - that's what the enemy does. That's what the KGB used to do and the Vietnamese and the North Koreans. But America is supposed to always do the right thing. Americans do not believe in the ends justifying the means.

Yes, I know in past history, America has done some bad things, long before the neocons came to power. In WWII, some German prisoners were tortured (genitals on hot radiators, that sort of thing). But then, those things were illegal, as they should be. Now, thanks to the neocons, we have actually made those things legal and that is a disgrace. If we can't follow our own principles, even in times of crisis, then we are no better than the terrorists we fight.

[mcvet]

I remember when the War, and folks it WAS a War, raged during the Civil Rights days. I remember how folks on our side, the right side, wanted to go into the south and just start shooting and lynching these Terrorist who were lynching and bombing. The leaders of that movement said NO WAY... not that it wasn't justified. But no because they knew that we needed those people in the South who were NOT fascist and Terrorist. We needed them to help bring the reign of Terror to an end. The same is true here. Our Fascist Government has driven moderates and folks in the Middle East who have in the past been with us, away. We are losing because we have elected people who had hoods and sheets on during the 60's so THEY do not know what the leaders of that movement knew. Sieg Heil Y'all.

[nyckate]

janem4 - there are accepted rules defining "torture" - we've used them many times condemning other countries and they are also laid out in the Geneva Conventions.

If you weren't such a fing moron you'd know that.

[mcvet]

Those practices have saved American lives by the tens of thousands, yet we still have whiners complaining about these killers being discomforted .
Posted by kesac4650 at 07:15 PM : Aug 05, 2007
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You know this how? Because the Reich TOLD you so? ROFLMAO Yeah I know they told us we were Winning in Iraq and the insurgency was on it's last legs... they also told us we didn't need our friends and allys. Then they told us Al Qaeda was dead and didn't matter anymore. You know maybe you should take off the Hood and Sheet there Sparky and face the fact that your fuhrer and hero is the BIGGEST poster child for Terrorist Recruitment in the world. The ENEMY, you know the guys who actually planned and ordered the attack on us? THEY have completely rebuilt and we are no better off NOW than when this all started. That's called LOSING and means YOUR NOT WINNING the fight. Now MOST intelligent people would say when you are LOSING you need to try a new approach... Course if YOUR a Southern Fascist, your just plain STUPID and couldn't try a new course if you wanted too. Sieg Heil Bush!!

[nyckate]

MCVet - Bush and the rest of the neocons are acting under the theory of "you have to burn the village in order to save the village".

The morons still supporting Bush just aren't smart enough to see that they are living in that village!!

[andrew_693]

Wow so that's how the cia gets their tips, torturing people?....... torture anybody long enough and they will say that pigs fly or that the law of gravity doesn't exist, hell, even the Spanish Inquisition got people to admit having *** with the devil when tortured long enough (I would have thought that the cia people would have intelligent enough people to know some history)......a totally unreliable method. Heck all you have to do is watch how the US airmen held in the Hanoi Hilton confessing to their "war crimes" in front of international tv after being tortured..... if we accept torture as a reliable method than we would have accept that our airmen were indeed war criminals.

[bvckvs-2009]

Everything the Republicans have done since 9/11 has proved that the US did indeed deserve to be so brutally attacked... and will deserve it next time, too.

[lars008-2009]

it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...


Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

[lars008-2009]

NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???
If they can kill us, we can kill them

Qaeda warns of attacks 'worse than 9/11'
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out 'Martyrdom' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[lastdance2]

janem4 and other Loyal (Criminal) Republican
Part Members

I would like for them and the : "FBI"
To describe - Their own - Criminal Acts - Torture Techniques
They conducted against : Adolescent Young Children within :
U.S. Juvenile Detention Centers

Research :
The Monarch Project - MK-Ultra
copy and paste (Google)
(One of the main contributors was :
Sen Prescott Bush)

Girls were aged 9 thu 11
Boys were aged 10 thu 13

Sexual Abuse - Sexual molestation - Sexual assault
Torture - Sexual Torture - Sexual Torment

Some of these children, didn't survive the torture sessions.
Therefore : They were murdered
Some of those children, didn't survive the sexual encounters.
Therefore : were murdered.

One child after another.
When they were finished with one.
They started on another

Research :
George Bush, The CIA, Mind Control & Child Abuse
copy and paste (Google)

Excellent display of : "No Child Left Behind"

Now ! - Watch these Loyal :
Republican (Criminal) Party members.
Bury this - Statement - In doing so - Proclaiming -
Their own undying support of : - Child Abuse - and - Child Murder

Lastdance

[feelfree1]

Wow!

We see that CBS Nooz scrubbed all of the comments that exposed the "American al-Qaeda" article, as a shabby hoax.

While it is disappointing that CBS would present this absurd and obvious propaganda creation as news, it is truly disgraceful that they would delete the entire comment section, which demonstrated that the "video" presented by CBS is a likely U.S. manufactured fake, designed to terrorize our own population.

This kind of yellow-journalism poses some real dangers to a lot of innocent people. This kind of irresponsible manipulation is really shameful.

[brianbwb-2009]

The program was suspended last fall, following a Supreme Court ruling, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, which ruled that all U.S. detainees must be treated in a manner consisted with the Geneva Conventions.

Amazing this regime has to be told by a court to obey international laws and conventions it helped create and signed.

"...killers being discomforted .
Posted by kesac4650"

I take it you witnessed these people committing acts of murder, because if you haven't, but still call them killers, without credible evidence then by logic you are either lying, or a sociopath, probably both.

[lars008-2009]

IT IS TIME TO DEFEAT FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM ONCE AND FOR ALL%u2026

In 1786, Thomas Jefferson, then U.S. ambassador to France, and John Adams, then American Ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the Dey%u2019s ambassador to Britain, in an attempt to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress%u2019 vote of funding. To Congress, these two future presidents later reported the reasons for the Muslims%u2019 hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

%u2026that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.

Sound familiar?

Thomas Jefferson and James Madison defeated the fascist nazi muslims 200 years ago
And again 100 years ago with Theodore Roosevelt
Tunisia in 1881 by France and Libya in 1911 by Italy. By then most of the Islamic world was under Christian domination. With the Ottoman Empire defeated in WW1, secularist Turkish rebels in 1923 overthrew the last Islamic Caliphate,
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[bobgee_1999]

Bush repeatedly says "we do not torture," though it is obvious to anyone who didn't just fall out of a tree that we do. The whole notion that the Geneva Conventions only apply to uniformed combatants and POWs is nonsense, anyway. I know, because I've read them, as anybody else who wants the right to shoot off his mouth ought to do. There are four Geneva Conventions, by the way, and they may be read here: http://www.genevaconventions.org/

You would think people with access to the greatest information index in the known world, i.e., the Internet, would be better informed. And they would be, if they cared about anything besides stroking their egoes and venting their spleens.

[oakishpines]

most don't like bombs, most that do don't build, most that build don't aim, most aiming are hapless, most not hapless are diseducated, & a few enjoy diseducating such evil,

but very few expect get well feed world folk to crime tho told to; &, more few expect wondet supet shero get sick tax world folk to crime


'i say 'dare' & kids bleed. i say 'shock & awe' & kids bleed. at least they know who to vote for!'


half make less than $2 a day, they've no lite, no toilet, no clothes, no food, no water; tho, few die of poverty: 3 & a half billion poor today will be 3 & a half billion poor tomorrow,

tho most are too young or old or impaired to labor, & most others are unemployeed or underemployeed, most are enjoying sum forms of charity:

maybe 97% share maybe 5% of global wealth all day each day, yet trails & pages don't tend to reflect the 'truth' of whut goes on behind 'closed doors'


lazy naked ignorant profane kids get battered into 'mourning attire'; yet, no one ever 'mourns' for 'them'?


generation dared shocked awed vs. generation daring shocking awing & generation shove daring shocking awing as 2% struggle to dance
get sick tax world most of the time: they bide most of their time dancing get well feed world

& the other 98% dance get well feed world most often & drip compost fertilize & drip water irrigate the spore bloom weed dragon trail fickle first aid lunch farm cottage studio trails for the epic quest to cure the common death

[red164]

Posted by FeelFree1 at 12:09 AM : Aug 06, 2007


How misleading is this CBS headline?
The CIA Used Techniques Equivalent To Torture While Interrogating 9/11 Mastermind

...Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the man long alleged to have planned the September 11 attacks, ... Has never been formally charged with any crime.


BTW, is this the only picture that's ever been taken of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, this picture must be from at least five years ago?

Aug. 5, 2007
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed headshot, arrested Al Qaida leader and mastermind of September 11 terrorist attack, after his capture during raid in Pakistan, photo

US says Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has admitted to 9/11 terror attacks ...Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the man long alleged to have planned the September 11 attacks, ... He's never been formally charged with any crime.


The alleged 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, ... the Independent newspaper that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was an ISI asset

[feelfree1]

gerhardii,

Re: "You bombed our land and killed our people..."

What does Cheney have to do with this?

Do you think that he will do it again?

[feelfree1]

red164,

Re: "BTW, is this the only picture that's ever been taken of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, this picture must be from at least five years ago?"

Ha, ha!

I had the same thought, you would think that they could have snapped another photograph of him by now, between his torture sessions.

Even after his water-boarding torture treatments, you would think that he looked better than he does in this photo!

Re: "Independent newspaper...Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was an ISI asset"

Really? do you have a URL for that?

gerhardii wrote:

"You bombed our land and killed our people...

DUH..YOU THINK.. I might be a little rough in the interrogation..."

I believe he admitted to a lot of things that the CIA didn't know about to begin with as well.

For instance, he killed Daniel Pearl, he shot Mr Burns and he also shot JR Ewing.

Amazing the things you can find out when you torture someone.

Of course, he probably admitted to being your father during torture as well.

[red164]

On September 11, 2002, members of Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) claimed to have killed or captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed during a raid in Karachi that resulted in Binalshibh's capture. Some people have reported that Mohammed escaped, but that his family was captured.[citation

Another horse manure story and how old is that picture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? If he was the mastermind behind 9/11 why wasn't he tried in the US if he was captured?

PURE BS

[red164]

Really? do you have a URL for that?
Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:08 AM : Aug 06, 2007

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Operation 9/11 and ISI

Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 09:49 PM EST - 60 Reads


http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=38

[luigi999-2009]

Who's side is the New Yorker on? Our very existence depends on eradicating the terrorist networks but this seems lost on the New Yorker and other liberals in general. We are at war yet these "journalists" don't seem to get it.

[feelfree1]

red164,

Thank you for the URL.

Good night.

[red164]

Posted by FeelFree1 at 01:28 AM : Aug 06, 2007

See next time

[xzavierbrown]

Posted by Luigi999 at 01:28 AM : Aug 06, 2007
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*****
The liberal media would hand my safety to the hands of our enemy on a silver platter if it means selling more subscriptions. Of course those pieces of sh it at the International Red Cross ARE TOO BUSY MAKING SURE THAT TERRORISTS AND CRIMINALS ARE BEING TREATED RIGHT that they dont have any more time for anybody else ...LIKE THE SOUTH KOREANS WHO GOT KIDNAPPED AND KILLED.