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Intel Chief Hints At Bigger Spy Program

(CBS/AP)  President Bush's spy chief sought to defend Attorney General Alberto Gonzales against charges of lying to Congress in a technically worded statement Tuesday hinging on when the government's terror surveillance program got its name. He hinted — as Gonzales has — that there's more to the program than has been made public.

Senate Judiciary Committee members have questioned whether Gonzales told the truth when he testified last week that a 2004 confrontation between administration officials was not about the president's secret eavesdropping program, dubbed the terrorist surveillance program.

Gonzales' testimony indicated there was more to the administration's intelligence-gathering than has been divulged.

In a carefully worded letter than never mentions Gonzales, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell noted that the administration first acknowledged its controversial surveillance activities and used the phrase "terrorist surveillance program" in early 2006. At the time, Mr. Bush said he had ordered the National Security Agency to intercept communications of terror suspects even when one person is inside the United States. Breaking with long-held precedents, no court approval was necessary.

In his letter to Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., McConnell makes clear Mr. Bush has publicly talked about only one slice of the program.

"This is the only aspect of the NSA activities that can be discussed publicly because it is the only aspect of those various activities whose existence has been officially acknowledged," he wrote.

Another reason McConnell presents for the attorney general's claim: The program wasn't named TSP by the administration until 2006, long after Gonzales' now-famous effort as White House counsel to get then-Attorney General John Ashcroft to sign off on what Gonzales calls other, undisclosed intelligence activity.

His FBI director, Robert S. Mueller, did not make that distinction last week before the House Judiciary Committee. Asked if the TSP was the program at issue during the hospital confrontation, Mueller answered, "Yes."

"I understand that the phrase 'Terrorist Surveillance Program' was not used prior to 2006 to refer to the activities authorized by the president," McConnell wrote to Specter.

Intelligence officials are loathe to get involved in politics, and McConnell attempted to lay out only some bare facts about the program. Yet his letter was designed to leave the clear impression that, technically, there were no discrepancies on the matter of the hospital visit.

Installed as spy chief just five months ago, McConnell also pins his own reasoning on the Justice Department.

"The details of the activities changed in certain respects over time and I understand from the Department of Justice these activities rested on different legal bases," McConnell wrote in his one-page letter.


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by bombadil4 August 2, 2007 1:14 PM EDT
It's long overdue to call hogwash what it is when it comes to this lying, power-grabbing administration. To paraphrase the old song, if we don't stand for something, we'll fall for anything.
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by pwrslm August 2, 2007 11:57 AM EDT
Posted by forthepeopl1

I guess the only people you are for are the kind that run administrations like Saddam Hussein.
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by forthepeopl1 August 2, 2007 11:45 AM EDT
have sent a 10,000 word statement to the heads of both partys. and also sent a copy to the vp, and whitehouse. let it be said here first..
stating that if they in anyway back down on this bill,and fold like ******* to this traitorest president/vp/rove/rumsfeld/ that
they will see a REVOLUTION IN THIS COUNTRY TO THE LIKES THAT THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN..

I told them the only bill that should be sign by the president is a bill he owes to all americans i thinks its around 3.000,000,000,000,0000,000,00,000,00,00,

00,00,00,.
so go and arrest all of them. and america will stand behide you. you all will go down as hero.

we need not to be in iraq,iran,or any were in the middleeast.

to the president of the united states of america. you are not a dictator, no ones is listen to all the lies anymore. any true american in this country is gearing up to have you and your crime buddies taken out by force.

you have to be stoped!!!! as i am a vet. i only wish was i was still in so i could make sure no more of my brothers and sisters get murdered by you and cheney,rumsfeld,rove,and so on.


how come no more outside speaches?? what worried about something??? good its going to get worst so keep it up you chimp

nobodys listen to you asap. like i ask yesterday were have you served?? go ahead bigboy go and sign up? whimp,coward,pussie,chimp,like your fathers bush,cheney,rove,rumsfeld,and your mother connie


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by coffeehead-2009 August 2, 2007 9:14 AM EDT
I'm glad I'll be dead before it gets as bad as it's going to get. RandalDS

I agree Randal-
I decided that I'm about outta here -
when the past outpreforms the present we should consult experience.


"We may congratulate ourselves that this cruel war is nearing its end. It has cost a vast amount of treasure and blood. . . .
It has indeed been a trying hour for the Republic; but I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.
I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless."

letter from Lincoln to (Col.) William F. Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864.


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by firststate August 2, 2007 4:48 AM EDT
If you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to be concerned about illegal government spying on us is pure Bushshit. UnderMyBoot describes a scenario that is chilling because it's not just possible, but with some variations will happen. The initial suspicion, generated by the software monitoring conversations, would gain momentum and become self-sustaining. The fact that they are being asked about someone in a matter of national security would almost surely color people's memories and impressions about the person given that new light.

A person's life could be ruined without his having a clue about the reasons. People questioned are given very explicit warnings about the penalties they'd face if they reveal even the existence of an investigation to its subject.

UnderMyBoot didn't even mention that the guy in his scenario could be called an enemy combatant and secretly and indefinitely detained without a hearing because bush thinks he can veto the Constitution. The safest places from external risks are maximum security prisons. Georgie and Tricky-Dicky 2 are attempting to overthrow our government and make us all as safe as prisoners in a cell.
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by randalds August 2, 2007 2:36 AM EDT
"Freedom? What's that?", asks your 8 year-old great granddaughter. "Shhhhh", your grandson says as he glances around. "Never say that word again, honey. They are always listening". He quietly walks out of her bedroom.

Posted by UnderMyBoot at 11:22 PM : Aug 01, 2007

Sad, but real. The day is coming when they always will be listening. Neighbors will be spying on neighbors and children will be turning their own parents in for speaking against the government at home. Orwell was off by only a few decades, but thanks to Bush and the cowards who form his flock of sheep it is coming.
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by undermyboot August 2, 2007 2:22 AM EDT
"Freedom? What's that?", asks your 8 year-old great granddaughter. "Shhhhh", your grandson says as he glances around. "Never say that word again, honey. They are always listening". He quietly walks out of her bedroom.
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by lastdance2 August 2, 2007 2:21 AM EDT
Criminal (Republican) Corporate America
Excellent Display of : "Democracy and Freedom"
According to Republican (Nazi) Ideology.

Criminal (Republican) Corporate America has -
In Every War - Always - Financially Supported Enemies of the
United States.

Criminal (Republican) Corporate America - In Every War
Has - Always - Provided War Materials and Weapons to the :
Enemies of the United States.

For the Purpose of :
1.) - To Kill and Defeat - American Soldiers on the Battlefield ! ! !
2.) - To Kill and Defeat any - Form of a Democracy or Sense of Freedom ! ! !

Criminal (Republican) Corporate America's - Allegiance to
All known Enemies of : The United States

Should Lead the Reader - to Understand that an :
Alliance and a Relation - of Friendship between :
Criminal (Republican) Corporate America and .. "Al Qaeda"
Is in Existence ! ! ! ......

The Habitual - Persisting - Continuing - Long Term Activity - of :
Criminal (Republican) Corporate America's Supporting :
of Financial - War Materials - Military Armaments to the :
Enemies of the United States (In Every War) is : Evidenced to This ! ! !

The Goal of : - "Al Qaeda" - is : to Destroy the :
Democratic Style of American Government.

The Goal of : Criminal (Republican) Corporate America is :
to Destroy the : Democratic Style of American Government

"Al Qaeda" and Criminal (Republican) Corporate America.
Are of the Same - Mind Style and Mind Set.

Master - Slave - Ideology

Lastdance
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by randalds August 2, 2007 1:19 AM EDT
The bigger issue here is what is being done by the adminstration that we do not know about.The "illegal" wiretaps probably are not even the flour in the cake when all is said and done.
Posted by radiob at 07:13 PM : Aug 01, 2007

Makes me glad the the wife and I are getting up there in years, instead of being young and having to face the Big Brother invasions that are coming. The golden age of America has passed and is being replaced by a nation of scared cowards, whining like frightened children that they'll surrender all of the rights and all of their privacy if Big Brother promises to keep them safe in the prison of a nation our government is constructing. I'm glad I'll be dead before it gets as bad as it's going to get. I pity my grandchildren having to live in a nation of gutless whining cowards. Once upon a time we had some freedom and privacy in America. I'm sorry you'll never see it.
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by hungry1968 August 1, 2007 11:30 PM EDT
About the size of a grain of rice, the RFID microchip technology encodes a 16-digit identification number that ties via the internet to patient records.
Posted by red164 at 07:35 PM : Aug 01, 2007


Now this I don't have a problem with. If people want to voluntarily have RFID chips implanted, that's up to them. In fact, there's talk of a more powerful model coming out that broadcasts a stronger signal and also with a 3-D capability.

Say a 10 year old girl gets kidnapped by Rep. Chester Molester, (your local Republican Congressman), and takes her back to his 5th floor apartment. These new chips will give the FBI the ability to track the girl back to the building AND the floor that she's being held on.

But the key is, it's being done VOLUNTARILY. Granted, the government will probably spy on this person and their medical records anyway, but it's nice to know it's there for legitimate uses too.
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