Bush Asks Congress To Expand Surveillance

Seeks To "Modernize" Wiretapping To Match New Technologies; Critics Warn Of Unchecked Privacy Invasion

(CBS/AP)  In the midst of a festering public scandal surrounding the administration's secret wiretapping program and the attorney general's efforts to have it extended, President George W. Bush is calling on Congress to expand the law governing the issuance of warrants to intelligence agencies for surveillance.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, provides a legal foundation that allows information about terrorists' communications to be collected without violating civil liberties.

President George W. Bush wants Congress to rewrite the law to incorporate new advances in technology which, he says, are not covered by the FISA.

"This law is badly out-of-date," Mr. Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address.

Mr. Bush noted that terrorists now use disposable cell phones and the Internet to communicate, recruit operatives and plan attacks; such tools were not available when FISA was passed nearly 30 years ago. (However, as he signed the Patriot Act on October 26, 2001, the president stated that existing law "written in the era of rotary telephones" was now updated to allow surveillance "of all communications used by terrorists, including e-mails, the Internet, and cell phones.")

He also cited a recently released intelligence estimate that concluded al Qaeda is using its growing strength in the Middle East to plot attacks on U.S. soil.

"Our intelligence community warns that under the current statute, we are missing a significant amount of foreign intelligence that we should be collecting to protect our country," Bush said. "Congress needs to act immediately to pass this bill, so that our national security professionals can close intelligence gaps and provide critical warning time for our country."

The 1978 law set up a court that meets in secret to review applications from the FBI, the National Security Agency and other agencies for warrants to wiretap or search the homes of people in the United States in terrorist or espionage cases.

Shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Bush authorized the NSA to spy on calls between people in the U.S. and suspected terrorists abroad without FISA court warrants. The administration said it needed to act more quickly than the court could issue warrants; it also said the president had inherent authority to order warrantless domestic spying in spite of Constitutional protections.

After the program became public and was challenged in court, Mr. Bush put it under FISA court supervision this year.

The national intelligence director, in a letter Wednesday to the House intelligence committee, stressed the need to be able to collect intelligence about foreign terrorists overseas. Mike McConnell said intelligence agencies should be able to do that without requirements imposed by an "out-of-date" law.

"Simply put, in a significant number of cases, we are in the unfortunate position of having to obtain court orders to effectively collect foreign intelligence about foreign targets located overseas," he wrote the committee chairman, Rep. Silvestre Reyes.

Democrats want to ensure that any changes do not give the executive branch unfettered surveillance powers.

Caroline Fredrickson, director of the Washington legislative office of the American Civil Liberties Union, contends the White House is asking for more power to conduct warrantless domestic and international surveillance.

"The administration claims the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act must be 'modernized,'" she said. "The reality is, their proposal would gut FISA.

"The President claims that they need to expand FISA based on new technology — they are wrong," said Fredrickson. "FISA was written to be technology-neutral. There is absolutely no new technology that cannot be intercepted with a warrant under FISA. None."

Frederickson also says that hidden within the bill is immunity from both criminal prosecution and civil liability for telecommunication companies who participate in the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping program, which would be retroactive.

This could affect a lawsuit before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in which the Electronic Frontier Foundation is suing AT&T for violating the rights of its customers by assisting the NSA with spying. The government has sought to have the suit dismissed on the grounds that state secrets would be exposed in a trial.

"It takes an enormous amount of hubris to ask for more power on the heels of revelations that the President tried to go around his own attorney general on his NSA domestic electronic eavesdropping program," Frederickson said. "The already-shaky legal ground on which this domestic spying program stood is crumbling beneath those who defend it."

The ACLU urged lawmakers to find out the full extent of current intelligence gathering under FISA before making changes.

"The only thing more outrageous than the administration's call for even more unfettered power is a Congress that would consider giving it to them," Frederickson said.

[barbaraf4]

This is because he wants to make sure no one else is selling weapons to Saudi Arabia.

[sjc_1]

Junior should have gone and had his Republican Congress change the laws years ago. Instead, he was SO arrogant and stupid as to violate the laws many many times and NOW he wants them changed? Sorry dufus, you are a day late and a dollar short, as they say.

[abbe91]

Congress should take a page of Cheney's book and tell hime to "f*ck *ff".

[tbweb]

OK, it's time to put the Bush administration on Late Night with Jay Leno and Company, what should we name it, the Bush Comedy Hour? Are they serious? It's starting to look like they get kicks out of going up the American peoples a_s_s!!

[formrusmcsgt]

"After the program became public and was challenged in court, Mr. Bush put it under FISA court supervision this year."


In other words, he and his ran an illegal program until they were found out.....

[tnt1954]

i believe that mind-reading satellites should
be deployed at all times, to record all
the thoughts of all earth citizens not only
for posterity, but for security reasons.
we have the technology. let's use it.
time travel research has broken the barrier.
aladdin device is real. something from
nothing for nothing. let's get it on.
move forward, with great vigah.

[klingon69]

OK, it's time to put the Bush administration on Late Night with Jay Leno and Company, what should we name it, the Bush Comedy Hour? Are they serious? It's starting to look like they get kicks out of going up the American peoples a_s_s!!
Posted by tbweb at 01:40 PM : Jul 28, 2007
D@mn, we ain't even getting a reach-around.

[trillion1]

What he's doing now is most likely illegal and he wants to do more. Why not start with sealing our southern border.

[hsinco-2009]

This will never be done with Bu$h in office.

[pastdue1]

Whatever President Bush says is vital to our security needs to be "VERY" carefully examined by a myriad group of experts, every color, every religion, every denomination, every political party and every university. We surely cannot afford to take anything he says he wants as being what the rest of us need or can stand.

[tomflint69]

Bush Asks Congress To Expand Surveillance

VERY GOOD MR.PRESIDENT I WOULD SAY WE MUST INSTALL CCTV CAMERAS EVERYWHERE LIKE WE HAVE IN THE U.K
I WOULD BE GLAD IF YOU IMPLEMENT IT IN ORDER TO MAKE US SAFER THAN EVER!

[coffeehead-2009]

VERY GOOD MR.PRESIDENT I WOULD SAY WE MUST INSTALL CCTV CAMERAS EVERYWHERE LIKE WE HAVE IN THE U.K
I WOULD BE GLAD IF YOU IMPLEMENT IT IN ORDER TO MAKE US SAFER THAN EVER!

The u.k. is like nazi germany now....
They are a country of walking- filmed zombies.
They are prodded, tested, watched, monitored and mummified. It's a rich/poor country where the natives can barely find work and they are over-run with "immigrants" who have taken their jobs,housing and culture. This has nothing to do with monitoring "terrorist" - rather than controlling u.s. citizens *one way or the other*.

Drinkers face drug test as they enter the pub

Police seek DNA record of everyone

Senior police officers will call this week for the the national database of 2m DNA samples to be extended to everyone in the country.

Government wants file on every child in England

Blair plans law that will make it a criminal offence to criticise government policy



http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_police_state.html

[donnie900]

.. you internet freaks.

[rfield9]

"The President claims that they need to expand FISA based on new technology %u2014 they are wrong," said Fredrickson. "FISA was written to be technology-neutral. There is absolutely no new technology that cannot be intercepted with a warrant under FISA. None."


Game-Set-Match

Bush remains a liar. Next!

[sshard]

The adminstration is seeking to accumulate more and more info on individuals. What could more dangerous to any democracy then building databases on individuals. Especially sensitive info like "race or religion, political views or sexual preferences" which is now going to be shared by the EU and US authorities on all air passengers.

Thinking about this, one cannot but wonder how is sensitive info about individuals being gathered. To buy a air plane ticket, at least at the moment, does not require you to fill out a form asking you about "race or religion, political views or sexual preferences". So do authorities come by the info to share in the first place?

[jetranger7]

OK, I'm Authorizing complete Video Survillance of the white house and that Microphones be installed everywhere in the white house, Camp David, the Pentagon, and Crawford Texas, so we the People can monitor everything that George, Dick, Rice, Gonzo-Boy say and Do !! Effective immediately I want all these items installed, so we the people can listen and watch these idiots lie, Fabricate and mis-use Tax Payer money and hold them accountable !! Hey, its all on video Tape, lie now fools !!!

[likeitis5050]

Either he is a complete idiot or a genius undiscovered. Even he doesn't buy the genius bit. He is a complete idiot living in total denial. Nothing he says at this point is going to be taken seriously by anyone except those with heads stuck up his a...s..s. One hour he is refusing any attempt to question anyone about anything he doesn't want to talk about and the next hour he's asking Congress for blind approval of one of his requests. He's an idiot.

[likeitis5050]

JetRanger7 Why don't we have that? Really? It makes so much sense. Just have everything that goes through that House captured on audio/video and played non-stop on an open channel for all voters and taxpayers to watch. And just imagine having that available in every stinking government in every country...okay...I just made myself dizzy. Never mind. If sounds too good to be true...well, you know how it goes...

One day the truth will all come out anyway and 51% of legal Americans will learn what 49% knew from the get go but couldn't get them to listen to even after the 2nd stupid mistake.

[coffeehead-2009]

I am willing to die for my freedom, and there is no way I would allow any government to take that away...

How about you big talkers?
Posted by yurpallid at 04:16 PM


XXXXXXXX

The "big" talkers are days away - being "pre-occupied" in Iraq. Our military and most fighting age men are days away - leaving mostly the aged, young and women here. The production of tech. for Mass population control is astronomical...

Our military are being asked via "surveys" if they would "USE ARMS AGAINST THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS" and "FOLLOW THE COMMANDS AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.N. and we have U.N. troops IN AMERICA training. So yeh- SOME will be willing but not enough.


45. I would swear to the following code:

"I am a United Nations fighting person. I serve in the forces which maintain world peace and every nation%u2019s way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense."

46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. A thirty (30) day amnesty period is permitted for these firearms to be turned over to the local authorities. At the end of this period, a number of citizen groups refuse to turn over their firearms. Consider the following statement:

I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government.

Strongly disagree/ Disagree / Agree

[book54552134]

Limiting rights of terrorists is one thing, but this Administration has shown a propensity to abuse extensive powers granted to it by using such powers against the American people for purposes of 'law enforcement'.

Such abuses are never what was intended by the founding fathers & is antithetical to American rights which have always been guaranteed by the US Constitution.

This is an Administration which has little regard for the Constitution & Bush II & his Administration have sought to undermine it whenever it seems to be in conflict with their corporatist or extremist Right Wing point of view.

I would hope this Congress would carefully consider past Constitutional violations by this Administration before granting them even more power to abuse the system.

[hhkeller]

Bush needs the law so that that he can legally spy on the Supreme Court and the Congress.
Even the White House staff will have it's mail read. What's great about his program is that everyone loses their privacy equally. That's so Repug.

[j-whitman]

Bush,,,, What part of don't spy on Americans,, & Don't arm the Enemy's of the United States (Sunni's, the real terrorists) don't you understand ???????? --- $20 Billion to arm the Enemy of the Elected government of Soverign Iraq's majority...

[bennyblack1]

To all those naysayers who don't believe there can be another terrorist attack on US soil, and don't need a local wiretapping program: What's a matter? You consorting with terrorists? Are YOU planning an attack from grass roots level...?
Are YOU that soldier running with gangs like you don't have the moral principles of the US Military? Are you ALL hoodlums? You aren't stopping the craziness. I think you all ought to be arrested.

[catt42701]

Isn't it time that this man and his friends be impeached and or fired from their posts. They act as if there is no law that applies to them and regularly throw them aside to do what they want to do. He has too much time left to his term to allow him the power to continue in the direction he has gone. The damage he and his buds can cause in the time left is limitless and frightening.

[bennyblack1]

I don't agree with President Bush on 90% of his logic for being in Iraq...but one thing that I DO agree with is National Security, and I agree that we need to expand the program to include general monitoring of ALL IMs, e-mails, chat room activities, and DEFINITELY cell phone activity. Cell phones can be bought, used, then thrown away. Cell phones can also be linked with the house phone, and you don't even have to be in the same state to use it. I don't even think that marrying the cell phone with your home phone is a good idea. And I believe that you should change your phone number to the number that corresponds to the state you live in. That way, everyone knows who your are and where you are. If you aren't doing anything suspicious, you would be OK.

[lastdance2]

Hitler did the same to : - " Nazi" - Germany
Why would anyone expect - "Less" - from Bush

1934 :
Hitler replaced attorneys and judges.
With his own loyal party members.
Then totally ignored, the Fundamental Laws of Germany.

To study Hitler - Is - to study - Bush
To study Hitler - Is - to "PREDICT" - The Actions of Bush

Even "Caesar" thought of himself as a :
"God" like creature.

So did - Hitler - So did - Stalin - So does Bush.
They all dictated laws - They never obeyed any written laws.

Bush is in the direct image of : Hitler

If you understand the : National Socialism (Nazi) Ideology.
Then you have - "No Complaints" - Bush is right - " IN Tune"
With all What : Bush and The The Republican Party
Beleive in ! ! !

To replace a Democratic Government with :
A Monarch (Nazi) Ideology.... - Master - Slave Society.

Bush - The Republican Party - Criminal Corporate America -
The Department of Justice.

Every act of theirs - Is an act of
"Patriotism" - and - "Patriotic Values"
To the : National Socialism (Nazi) Ideology.

Just what is it going to take for you - To get Tuned In ???
To study Hitler - Is - to "PREDICT" - The Actions of Bush

To replace a Democratic Government with :
A National Socialism (Nazi) Ideology.
To Create a - "Master - Slave" Society.

Lastdance

[j-whitman]

bennyblack1,,,, Look at reality friend. I know abit about National Security ----- Bush has torn it up with his invasion of Iraq, his ventures in Isreal, China & other places.. Just what he has done to our Military alone has "Gravely" damaged our National Security ----
-- Expanded Survailiance violates the courts & our Constitution -- It's another over reach of executiive power.

[j-whitman]

bennyblack1,,, Have you noticed that Bush uses the excuse "It's good for our national security" on every single controversial issue, & to protect himself ???

[bennyblack1]

The laws of the country can be temporarily thrown aside in the time of a national security threat. If in a regular time of peace, there is no threat, therefore, there should be no violation of privacy. We are at war, and you guys don't get it. We are on the brink of a mass, grass roots level attack on the United States. And you've just lullled off to sleep like it wasn't going to happen. Employers hired 28,000,000 Mexicans, and over half of those are illegal immigrants. And they are about to rise, because YOU fell asleep. Because YOU thought it was OK to allow a non VISA carrying immigrant to take YOUR jobs. Because YOU thought it was OK to let a friend or a boss slip some secret information over to an enemy. Now what are you going to do? Post on the internet that you're being attacked by the neighborhood immigrants? Post on the internet that a group of Iranian males just set off a nerve bomb in the middle of the street while you're dying? Post on the internet that a gang of kids just beat up and raped your daughter in front of you(like is already happening ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES!)? You're stupid, the lot of you.

[j-whitman]

bennyblack1,,,, Yes, unfortunatly our laws are tossed aside from time to time,, It has to stop NOW --- It's how we ended up with Bush
3,692 AMERICANS KIA FOR NO GAIN & 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS -- TERRORISM HAS GROWN

[bennyblack1]

This isn't about Bush. It's about YOU and ME. It's about the rappers baring their war beats out calling others to meet, it's about terrorists invading our private internet lives, the chat rooms, and their ability to persuade. It's about drugs, which give the enemy the ability to brainwash people easier. It's about gangs entering YOUR homes and making them theirs, then either kicking you out of it, or killing you. Wake up. Come together, or die divided. Your choice.

[coffeehead-2009]

Have you noticed that Bush uses the excuse "It's good for our national security" on every single controversial issue, & to protect himself ???
j-whitman at 07:44 PM :


"What happened was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to be governed by surprise, to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security ...
To live in the process is absolutely not to notice it -- please try to believe me -- unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, regretted.
Believe me this is true. Each act, each occasion is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.
Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven't done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we did nothing) ... You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair. "
German professor after World War II describing the rise of Nazism to a journalist

[j-whitman]

Hitler was portrayed as a compassionate christian and strong leader protecting the German people from the terrorists who fire-bomed the Reichstag as he quietly pushed innocent sounding laws like the "Enabling Act" which promised to promote peace with France, Great Britain and the Soviet Union and to end unemployment but actually voted democracy out of existence in Germany and established the legal dictatorship of Adolf Hitler.

[j-whitman]

%u201CThe liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.%u201D
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

[michellem99-2009]

There comes a come when we has to say the nanny govt must step down. I am one who does not believe bullies,illegal wars. Read the constution . Bush should be impeached if you want to buy his pack of lies fine. I don't and bring the boys and girls HOME. That Bush family has messed this nation up. That war is over oil so you can drive that car you love over giving it up. If you believed there is a war you'd give up the car and be mindful of the gas you use to drive. There will be a war when it runs out for good. That will happen. So don't let him in yer head. A drunk driver ticketed for DUI. Yep Bush has that.. in Maine. So no I did not vote him in as I felt he was bad for this Nation..I stand the same...Read about skull and bones and He is one. It will scare ya. Are you so willing to kiss your rights away. I am not. I will vote. And not for a whine baby control jefk. Be Careful.

[adam42069gc]

k of Bush using fear as a reason for EVERYTHING! We don't have a president, we have a KING! A president listens to the people and does what they voted for, a king does whatever he wants. ALL HAIL KING BUSH. We have the conservitive christians to thank for voting this stupid know nothing in for a second term!!! Any person that believes in a all powerful magical being in the sky should have no right to vote. Religion screws America yet again. IMPEACH BUSH!!! If we ever want a peaceful and safe country we need to ban ALL muslims from coming over here and deport the ones that are already here!!! Born here or not! Show me a terrorist that is NON Muslim!!! YOU CAN'T!!! Killing in the name of religion LOL. Religion is nothing but pure STUPIDY & TROUBLE! Just like our healthcare system! If this country was built on "Cristian Values" it is so immoral to make money off of peoples health and wellbeing. The Four Fathers are turning in their graves!!! And Henrey Ford is SPINING in his grave knowing what Dearborn, MI has become. Dearborn, MI = America's Middle East!!! Go Home Arabs!!! You always say how bad Americans treat you and that your profiled, then LEAVE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT!!! WE DIDN'T BEG YOU TO COME HERE AND WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!!! LEAVE AMERICA AND WE'LL LEAVE IRAQ!!!

SHAMUTAS!!!!!!!!!!!

[coffeehead-2009]

That war is over oil so you can drive that car you love over giving it up. If you believed there is a war you'd give up the car and be mindful of the gas you use to drive.


It's about balancing and "redistributing" wealth throughout the world. Which means we need to fall somewhere between where we WERE and were the poorest of poor nations are. Not good for US.

ELITE MEET BEHIND STIFF SECURITY

Secret Cabal Roosts at Ritz-Carlton; Riot Police Keep All But Invited
BILDERBERG 2007 REPORT

Among new climate related demands by Bilderberg is for the United State to increase gasoline taxes so the price will rise %u201Csignificantly%u201D to more than $6 a gallon. The argument is that this will reduce driving and thus emissions. They argued, with little or no dissent from Americans, that Europeans already pay that much or more.

Then the problem of the failure of the %u201CAmerican Union%u201D was addressed. %u201CWe must help the enlightened media, as opposed to small journals obsessed with national sovereignty, understand that it is the patriotic duty of the people to support the North American zone [U.S. Mexico and Canada] because it will bring prosperity to the poor and put food in the mouths of hungry babies,%u201D Henry Kissinger said. %u201CThen it can expand, as NAFTA was intended, to all the Western Hemisphere and evolve into the %u2018American Union.%u2019 %u201D
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg_2007.html

[adam42069gc]

bennyblack1 WAKE UP YOU BUSH LOVING LOSER. IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE ALSO BEEN BRAINWASHED! WE ARE IN A WAR, ONE THAT WE WENT INTO UNDER FALSE PRETENSES!!! AND NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR BETWEEN TWO STUPID ARAB GROUPS WHO BELIEVE IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ISLAM! YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND STOP BEING KING BUSH'S MONICA! WE NEED TO LEAVE IRAQ AND NUKE THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST!!! AND WE NEED TO KILL EVER SINGLE MUSLIM IN THE WORLD!! ONLY THEN WILL WE HAVE A PEACEFUL WORLD AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOOL

[j-whitman]

adam42069gc,,,, The war isn't about our freedoms or thier's -- They are not going to "follow us home" -- They aren't intrested in our version of liberty or democracy & it's certainly not about Islam ----- It's for control of the region & the resources ----- Everyone in the region understands that basic fact.

[tucano2]

Bush must be as mentally sick as Regan was in office thinking Congress is just going to roll over and do whatever he tells it to do.
Some months after Rove, et. al., have testified UNDER OATH, and likely been jailed - then might be a good time for Bush to stick his head up and ask (not demand, as that would be the style of a tyrant)nicely of Congress to take all the time Congress needs to fully debate the matter. In the meantime Congress ought to send a one-word reply (as the US Commander in Bastone replied to a Nazi demand for his surrender). The one word Congress ought to send Bush is "Nuts".

[ioweign]

I am willing to die for my freedom, and there is no way I would allow any government to take that away...

How about you big talkers?


Posted by yurpallid at 04:16 PM : Jul 28, 2007

So enlist. The Recuiting Office is probably closed on Sunday but be there bright and early Monday morning. They have lowered the standards too so it should be no problem getting in.

I have already served my country 68 to 72 if you wondered, so step up to the plate Bubba.

[j-whitman]

yurpallid,,,, I di my 20 years --- Call the recruiter at home,., He'd be more than happy to open the office on Sunday

[toolmangler-2009]

"If you believed there is a war you'd give up the car and be mindful of the gas you use to drive."

Posted by coffeehead at 08:32 PM : Jul 28, 2007


#1. You need to rephrase that statement. Read it closely and you should see why.

post #1

[toolmangler-2009]

"Among new climate related demands by Bilderberg is for the United State to increase gasoline taxes so the price will rise %u201Csignificantly%u201D to more than $6 a gallon. The argument is that this will reduce driving and thus emissions. They argued, with little or no dissent from Americans, that Europeans already pay that much or more."

Posted by coffeehead at 08:32 PM : Jul 28, 2007

#2. That is the most stupid reason for justifying tax increases I ever saw. Make gas cost $6.00 a gallon. and inflation will go through the ceiling. Raise it to $10.00 a gallon and our economy will self destruct. The only way to stop the use of fossil fuels is to come up with a cheaper alternative. Since shrub and company onw most of the oil you know that wont happen. They will make sure that they get all the money they can wring out of it, and just before the world runs out, they will announce a "BREAKTHROUGH" in NEW technology. which they more than likely have had for some years already.
When I was younger, a friend and I modified a car to run on hydrogen and oxygen in 1955 and drove it back and forth between two local cities for a week but took it apart when we realized how dangerous it was (we didn't know enough to make it safe yet.)anyway, time put the kabosh on that idea and we drifted to other interests. (but not before 'we' knew it could be done) And no! we were not geniuses, so why hasn't it been done by Industry? GREED!!!

Post #2

[tylenol6]

You really have to watch out for our IDIOTS in Congress.... The dimwits will probably give Emperor
Bush what he wants. I hope if we have an election,
all these TRAITORS in congress get voted out. They
have pretty much sold out America.

[undermyboot]

IOWEIGN and j-whitman

When we say we fight for our country, it is against fascist Bush-lovers like you who would throw our freedoms away so you can do any little thing to REAL AMERICANS that your fascist hearts desire. Don't have a working Constitution in your country do you? Red China? Russia? I'll be defending my country. The first 9mil is for you useless ignorant MOFOS. Go lick your master's azzes now- Bush and the rest need a good cleaning. Modernize this ..l.. LMFAO

[j-whitman]

UnderMyBoot,,,,
%u201CThe liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.%u201D
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

[bennyblack1]

You wake up and take your dang country back. Americans UNITE! Blind man speaking to the deaf.

[j-whitman]

UnderMyBoot,,, For the last 6 years it was us Patriotic, American, Liberals, and a few independents who have been the ones defending our Constitution.

[bennyblack1]

it's not our government that we should be worried about. It is legal agencies such as the ACLU, Civil Rights activists that push for the over priviledging of minorities, illegal aliens, drug pushers, pimps, gangsta rappers, the use of priviledge for the express purpose of breaking the law, and ourselves and our own actions against or for each other. It is not about the government, people. We ARE the government. You really don't know what that means, do you? Open your eyes.