September 22, 2009 11:14 AM

A Political Perjury Game

By
David L Miller
(National Review Online)  This story was written by the the editors of National Review Online.

In March, we argued that Alberto Gonzales should step down, or be told to step down, as attorney general. "He cannot defend the administration and its policies even when they deserve defense," we wrote. This week we saw just how much credibility he has lost: He is no longer believed even when he is telling the truth.

Democrats are claiming that Gonzales perjured himself in testimony before the Senate, and are calling for a special counsel to investigate. In the disputed testimony, from February 2006, Gonzales was talking about the Terrorist Surveillance Program. He said that "there has not been any serious disagreement about the program that the president has confirmed."

The Democrats say that this was untrue, because there was a lot of intra-administration strife about the National Security Administration's surveillance of terrorists. In 2004, for example, John Ashcroft (at that time the attorney general), Gonzales (at that time the White House counsel), and other officials sparred over the program in Ashcroft's hospital room. Ashcroft and his aides thought that the NSA was going beyond its authorization. Only in 2007 did this episode come to light.

The administration's surveillance of terrorists has, however, undergone several modifications over the period since September 11, and some of the details remain secret. Gonzales's phrasing was careful, and it was careful because he was trying to avoid disclosing those details.

As best as we can tell, here is how events unfolded. After September 11, the NSA began running wiretaps on suspected al Qaeda operatives. The surveillance program was reauthorized every 45 days. In 2004, however, Justice Department officials, for the first time, raised legal objections to the scope of the program. The resulting dispute within the administration led to the famous hospital scene, after which President Bush sided with the Justice Department officials and narrowed the program. Many months later, the New York Times revealed the existence of this now-narrowed program; President Bush then confirmed its existence and named it the "Terrorist Surveillance Program"; and Gonzales defended it.

When Gonzales said that "there has not been any serious disagreement about the program that the president has confirmed," then, he was referring to the later, narrowed version of terrorist surveillance, and as far as we know he was correct. Other disputed Gonzales comments appear to follow the same basic pattern.

Thursday afternoon, the press and the Democrats started to play up testimony by FBI director Robert Mueller about the hospital-room meeting, testimony that supposedly contradicts Gonzales. But all Mueller said was that the meeting concerned a legal disagreement over the NSA's surveillance. If our account of the chronology of the program is correct, there is no contradiction here.

The Democrats say that to defend Gonzales on these terms is to play games with words. But what was Gonzales supposed to say? The controversy about which he was testifying was the existing surveillance program. He could have said that an earlier version of it had provoked controversy: But given that the administration's (defensible) position was that publicizing the program's existence in the first place had jeopardized it, it would have been impossible to say that without inviting further questions that would have revealed more details about the program.

It is a convoluted story; and much of it is beside the point. The country is at war. The commander-in-chief and his agents have to be able to listen in on the enemy. Our surveillance appears to have played an important role in disrupting at least two terrorist plots. But our ability to wage this part of the war has gotten progressively weaker as it has continued. The program narrowed first because of legal objections by the Justice Department, and then because of the political fallout from the New York Times's reporting. We fear that it will grow weaker still now, because Democrats who ought to know better insist on playing "gotcha" with the attorney general.
By the editors of National Review Online
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by xzavierbrown July 29, 2007 3:34 PM EDT
for the democrats and the liberals.THE ONLY REASON WHY THERE IS SUCH AN ALLAGED CRIME IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HEARING WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, THAT HE IS NOT DOING WANT THEY WANT HIM TO DO.
If there is such a crime, then let the law deal with it, just like the impeachment process for Bush. It never gets off the ground because THERE IS NO BASIS TO IT RATHER THAN LOUD WHINNING
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by urcrushed July 29, 2007 6:58 AM EDT
As usual the Republican Propaganda Machine has laid waste to another mind, by stripping it of any cognitive ability.

President Clinton was never adjuged guilty of perjury in ANY court of law. As it relates to a perjury charge - there was never a trial, never a jury, never a verdict, never a court imposed penalty. There was a politically driven successful impeachment vote, by congress 12/18/98, However, on 02/12/99 the senate acquited him of the impeachment charge.

This cognitive stripping orginally affected 45-49% of the population, but over the years this number has lessened to 30%. These poor americans' cognitive ability is so low that they
scream that democrats are lying, reporters are lying, newspapers are lying, foreign leaders are lying, Critical republicans are lying, former Republican appointees who have spoke out are lying, everyone is lying BUT --- GWB. GWB & his administration is the only one telling the truth, & EVERYONE ELSE is LYING!

It may be that this mental condition has except mutated into a condition that not only affects cognitive ability, but is causing pyschiatric problems as well.

Presently, your assertions are at least a misunderstanding of the facts. But, now that you have been put on notice as to their falsity, anyone repeating them in the future their reputation to that of a liar.

Warm Regards,

Crushed
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by observantx July 29, 2007 3:01 AM EDT

We are at war. Granted. That however, does not give the president, vice-president, attorney general, et al a blank check.

This is supposed to be a nations of laws and not men.

I expect the highest official in the land to obey the law, speck truthfully and not obstruct justice.

But as I have observed, this is not the case. We have a runaway administration that seeks to be a dictator. They speak in polite tones and use very expensive collegiate words that mean one thing: Shut up and obey. We know better. We are smarter. We deserve your obedience and by the way, how much money Do you have?

I watched Gonzo weasel through the hearing and it is plain to anyone without rose colored glasses that he is trying to hide what he is up to and trying to smokescreen what this administration is up to.

Unfortunately, we have too many Rushaholics who make excuses for this power grab.

If we could only fast forward to February 2008.
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by condumism July 29, 2007 1:58 AM EDT
FACT:

24% of all American's prefer a Nazi style government. 100% of these weak, arrogant, mostly Southern HYPOCRITS vote Repuglicon.

28% of all American's continue to blindly support the Neocon/Bush/Cheney agenda of lies, theft, cronyism, incomptence. The vast majority of these fools listen to FOX News.

Therefore, 85.7% of all Neocon/Bush/Cheney supporters are weak, arrogant, Southern Repuglicons, which is now nothing more than a regional party of bigots.
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by sparks224 July 29, 2007 12:56 AM EDT

There is a battle between Good and Evil taking place in this country.
The neo-cons must be driven back into Hell, where they came from.

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by stop7997 July 28, 2007 8:23 PM EDT
Like his grandfather before him, Bush is attempting to impose a fascist dictatorship on the United States. What's that you say? You didn't know about Bush's granddaddy Prescott? That's because CBS and the other corporate media are censoring it. Here's a link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml
Looks like the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.
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by samthetvcat July 28, 2007 4:43 PM EDT
The administration%u2019s surveillance of terrorists has, however, undergone several modifications over the period since September 11, and some of the details remain secret. Gonzales%u2019s phrasing was careful, and it was careful because he was trying to avoid disclosing those details.

When Gonzales said that %u201Cthere has not been any serious disagreement about the program that the president has confirmed,%u201D then, he was referring to the later, narrowed version of terrorist surveillance, and as far as we know he was correct."

That explanation doesn't even make sense - if you guys could explain it without needing to disclosing any details, then why wouldn't/couldn't the nation's top lawyer? Silence when one would expect clarity from the average AG is considered circumstantial evidence of guilt admissible in a court of law.

And furthermore, if Gonzales and the President were so desperate to get a broader wiretap law passed that they were willing to badger an sick man in ICU, then how did it come to be that they were okay with the more narrow one given that the terrorist threat is greater now than before and given that Bush is saying Iraqi terrorists are trying to get into the country and that there are unknown sleeper cells?
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by sjc_1 July 28, 2007 4:28 PM EDT
MCVet,

You're a poor excuse for a human being. Don't even talk to me you pig.
Posted by katg21 at 11:19 AM : Jul 28, 2007

I reported you to CBS News.

We discuss issues here, not insult people.
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by katg21 July 28, 2007 2:09 PM EDT
What, just like the re-pubic-ans did to clinton?
you guys make me sick!
how does it feel when the shoe is on your foot?
you re-pubic-an hypocrite
Posted by liberalameri at 09:06 PM : Jul 27, 2007

Different, Clinton actually LIED and was PROVEN to have done so. You can throw the lying card around all you want but you better *** well prove it. Just because you say he lied doesn't make it so.
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by brianbwb-2009 July 28, 2007 1:48 PM EDT
For me its a simple matter of doing whats right and its not about race or culture for me, its about Law and Order. Tbweb, home run.

Ya know, Mr Web, I think that we may be on the opposite sides of many issues, but I don't hesitate to agree with much of your posts, and I see you have the civility to at lease entertain some of mine. If only those idiots in power could also shed some of their partisan gainsaying, disagreeing with the truth simply because the other party tells it, then maybe we could get something done for this once great nation, whose greatness is diminished only by its own worsening corruption.

On this subject, I think that Gonzo, and the LA mayor are in the pockets of big business, (who love the $3 per hour wages) and therefore actually out of touch with those of similar ethnicity.
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