BAGHDAD, July 26, 2007

5 Americans Killed; Baghdad Hit By Bomb

3 Marines, Sailor, Soldier Die In Fighting; At Least 21 People Die In Shiite Market Blast

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    • An Iraqi who was injured in a suicide car bombing rests in a hospital in Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City in Baghdad on July 26, 2007. Two suicide bombings killed at least 50 cheering, dancing, flag-waving Iraqis celebrating their national triumph in the Asian Cup semifinals on Wednesday. Photo

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(CBS/AP)  A parked car bomb exploded near a market in a predominantly Shiite area in Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 21 people and wounding more than 60, police said. The U.S. military also said four American troops had died in fighting northeast of the capital, raising to five the number reported killed.

Smoke billowed into the sky after the thunderous explosion, which also left nine cars burned and set a three-story building on fire in the busy Karradah shopping district, according to police and hospital officials who gave the casualty toll.

It was the deadliest in a series of attacks that left more than 40 people dead nationwide.

The three U.S. Marines and a sailor died Tuesday while conducting combat operations in Diyala province — the site of a major military operation against a Sunni insurgent stronghold, the military said Thursday. It announced earlier that a U.S. soldier had been killed Wednesday during a gun battle in southern Baghdad.

Identities of the dead were withheld pending notification of relatives.

Earlier Thursday, Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno, the top day-to-day U.S. commander in Iraq, expressed cautious optimism over a decline in the number of American troops killed this month.

At least 64 U.S. troops have died so far in July, after the death toll topped 100 for the previous three months, according to an Associated Press tally based on military statements.

Odierno said it appeared that casualties had increased as fresh U.S. forces expanded operations into militant strongholds as part of the five-month-old security operation aimed at clamping off violence in the capital, but were going down as the Americans gained control of the areas.

"We've started to see a slow but gradual reduction in casualties, and it continues in July," he said at a joint news conference with Iraqi military commander Maj. Gen. Abboud Qanbar. "It's an initial positive sign, but I would argue we need a bit more time to make an assessment whether it's a true trend."

(AP Photo/Maya Alleruzzo)
On a less positive note, Odierno (seen at left) said the military had noted a "significant improvement" in the aim of attackers firing rockets and mortars into the heavily fortified Green Zone in the past three months, a trend he linked to training in Iran.

Odierno said networks continue to smuggle powerful roadside bombs and mortars across the border from Iran despite Tehran's assertions that it supports stability in Iraq.

His remarks came two days after the U.S. and Iranian ambassadors to Iraq met in Baghdad and agreed to establish a security committee to jointly address the violence amid Washington's allegations that Tehran is fueling the violence by support Shiite militias. Odierno said the military also believes training of extremists is being conducted in Iran.

"One of the reasons why we're sitting down with the Iranian government ... is trying to solve some of these problems," Odierno said at a news conference in the Green Zone, which is home to the U.S. Embassy and the Iraqi government headquarters.

"We have seen in the last three months a significant improvement in the capability of mortarmen and rocketeers to provide accurate fires into the Green Zone and other places, and we think this is directly related to training that is conducted in Iran," Odierno said. "So we continue to go after these networks with the Iraqi security forces."

Iran has denied the U.S. allegations about its activities in Iraq.

Attacks against the sprawling complex along the Tigris River in the center of Baghdad have increased in recent months, adding to the concern over the safety of key Iraqi and international officials and thousands of U.S. soldiers and contractors who live and work there.

On July 10, a barrage of more than a dozen mortars or rockets struck the area, killing at least three people, including an American, and wounding 18. In a report last month, the United Nations office in Baghdad said the "threat of indirect fire" — meaning rockets and mortars — into the Green Zone had increased, adding that the barrages had become "increasingly concentrated and accurate."

In other developments:

  • Jordan and Syria complained Thursday they have been abandoned by the West to deal with the massive burden of more than 2 million Iraqi refugees who have fled the violence in their homeland.

  • A roadside bomb struck a police patrol on the road between Hillah and Diwaniyah on Thursday, killing five officers and wounding two as they were on their way home from an operation with U.S. forces, police said. Diwaniyah, 80 miles south of Baghdad, has been the site of heavy clashes between U.S.-Iraqi security forces and Shiite militia fighters.

  • Baghdad residents swept up debris from bloodstained pavement a day after two suicide bombings killed at least 50 cheering, dancing, flag-waving fans celebrating Iraq's national soccer team's semifinal victory in the Asian Cup tournament. The attacks bore the hallmarks of Sunni militants who have fueled the violence in Iraq for nearly four years. The bombings, in parked cars less than an hour apart in separate corners of Baghdad, appeared designed to gain attention rather than target a particular sect.

  • CBS News reporter Vicki Barker reports an international conference is under way in Jordan to try and figure out how the region should deal more than 4 million people displaced from their homes by violence in Iraq. The United Nations is seeking money from the international community, and is also asking the U.S., European Union and Britain to help re-settle more refugees.

  • Iraq's Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi's office said the moderate Sunni leader had met with U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker on Wednesday to discuss his political bloc's objections to the leadership of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. The meeting occurred on the same day al-Hashemi's Iraqi Accordance Front suspended membership in the government, a bid that appeared timed to deepen disenchantment in Washington with the Shiite prime minister's faltering leadership.


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    by tuckerndfw July 26, 2007 8:02 AM PDT
    "We're turning a corner."

    "Stay the course."

    How many times do they get to make that excuse?

    If ONE US soldier dies in Iraq, that is ONE too many.
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    by antoniof123 July 26, 2007 8:12 AM PDT
    Please tell me how 50 dead is a good number. What if it is your husban, wife, son, or daughter, morons anyone who believes that death is ok in an endless war of choice is a moron.
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    by drummer94 July 26, 2007 8:12 AM PDT
    The general states this with "cautious optimism". So, when the month is out and we "only" lose a total of, what, 90, will the general still be optomistic? I'm sure the idiots who plant the bombs and fire the rockets and do the ambushes will read his statement and redouble their efforts in killing Americans. Out of the chimps mess NOW.
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    by tbweb July 26, 2007 8:14 AM PDT
    Death Toll decreasing in Iraq and increasing in U.S. Cities! What about home? The U.S. is half way around the world trying to secure Baghdad and can't even secure Philadelphia where Pres. Bush is visiting today, someone should pull his coattail and bring that to his attention. How about a troop surge in Philadelphia where 2 were murdered just yesterday? Philadelphia is averaging one murder a day since the new year! What's up with that? So in that context who cares about Iraq? I care about the U.S. Homeland first, lets get our House in order first!
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    by mrhoppy-2009 July 26, 2007 8:22 AM PDT
    Huh... I just read yesterday that the death rate was going up. Just more counter intelligence since the government and media minions know that America is about to explode with anger over corruption and non representation? I think so.

    I learn about what is going on in the world by reading the blogs from whatreallyhappened.com and then reading the corporate media propaganda to see what they want us to believe.

    Based on those two sources, you can tell what they are thinking and planning to do next.

    I comment here for theropy - thanks CBS, it is all the mental health therapy I can afford these days.

    EXAMPLE: They banned public camera use in New York City recently but not a peep from corporate media ******.

    TRANSLATION: They are getting ready to do another fake terror attack in an attempt justify the move of the NY financial sector to Israel. Dirty bomb attack in the fall I am guessing. 911 had too many cameras quoting firefighters talking about bombs in the WTC.

    The pentagon however, more video cameras than any place on Earth didn't show a plane...

    Israel has hijacked our government for a reason, to get us to fight their wars and to steal our financial districts. They are setting up a global financial feifdom in Israel presently. Wall street is run by the Jews anyway.

    I have read that the Star Wars Program was really 30 billion dollars worth of banking satellites with a main computer hub (Linux running mysql) for the US in the pentagon.
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    by perception5 July 26, 2007 8:25 AM PDT
    Death Toll decreasing in Iraq and increasing in U.S. Cities! What about home? The U.S. is half way around the world trying to secure Baghdad and can't even secure Philadelphia where Pres. Bush is visiting today, someone should pull his coattail and bring that to his attention. How about a troop surge in Philadelphia where 2 were murdered just yesterday? Philadelphia is averaging one murder a day since the new year!
    Posted by tbweb at 08:14 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    .......tbweb, you mean the "deep blue" city of Philadelphia? The same Philadelphia that has been under "one party rule" (Democrats) for decades and generations? If you Democrats don't know how to run a city...........then you should get out of the way! and let the GOP run these "deep blue" cities. That's what New Yorkers "finally" did in 1993 when they (Democrats) finally voted for a Republican (Rudy). Now New York City is the "safest" blue city in America.

    Voters, YOU, have to make the change away from the failed policies of the Democrat Party if you want things to improve in "your" deep blue city.

    Am I clear?
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    by bluestardad July 26, 2007 8:31 AM PDT
    Maybe the Sunni are killing less Americans now that Bushit is arming them in Anbar. When are American Politicians going to address the Sunni Saudi Arabia Threat and quit talking about the Israeli enemy Iran?
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    by bluestardad July 26, 2007 8:36 AM PDT
    ONLY 40 PERCENT OF THE IRAQI SOLDIERS FORCASTED FOR THE SURGE EVEN SHOWED UP AND SOMETIMES THEY FIRE ON AMERICAN SOLDIERS! THIS IS NOT REPORTED IN THE NEWS!
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    by radiob-2009 July 26, 2007 8:40 AM PDT
    One incomplete mths death toll does not suggest a trend. In order for a trend to be established it has to have consistencys over a span of time which can be compared to other charts. For anyone to suggest a downward trend is occuring on one mths incomplete data is selling swampland.
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    by perception5 July 26, 2007 9:01 AM PDT
    One incomplete mths death toll does not suggest a trend. In order for a trend to be established it has to have consistencys over a span of time which can be compared to other charts. For anyone to suggest a downward trend is occuring on one mths incomplete data is selling swampland.
    Posted by radiob at 08:40 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    ..radiob, now for the facts. Let me enlighten you and the rest of your liberal pals. From GlobalSecurity.org here's the facts on monthly death toll of US troops in Iraq:

    May - 121

    June - 98

    July MTD - 57

    rabiob, are you detecting a trend? And your comments are a little strange...........who are you rooting for?
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    by bareemperor July 26, 2007 9:11 AM PDT
    So THIS is how it looks when someone polishes a t-u-r-d for his boss...
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    by radiob-2009 July 26, 2007 9:17 AM PDT
    rabiob, are you detecting a trend? And your comments are a little strange...........who are you rooting for?

    Posted by perception5



    Would you invest in a stock based upon these results? Trends need a longer base period than a quarter to have meaning. Another relative factor is the civilian casualties have they declined? Read the Chatham House report on Iraq.

    http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/research/middle_east/papers/view/-/id/501/
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    by cosmicfluke July 26, 2007 9:19 AM PDT
    This means nothing, stocks rise and fall all the time, ON THEIR WAY UP.

    SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN
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    by inventagod July 26, 2007 9:19 AM PDT
    http://icasualties.org/oif/

    However, the casualties are not easily trackable...
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    by cosmicfluke July 26, 2007 9:22 AM PDT
    Yes, perception5, the truth does sound very strange after these last 6 years.

    You know who I'm rooting for? The people of Iraq. Remember them? The ones we went in to liberate?

    But, I'm always rootin' for the underdog. Who're you rootin' for? Blackwater, Bechtel, Halliburton, or US Oil Cos?

    Don't say the troops, because I know you're a supporter of this war, and that ain't supporting them, that's sending them to kill and die for the above mentioned corporate interests.
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    by July 26, 2007 9:23 AM PDT
    perception5 wrote:

    "..radiob, now for the facts. Let me enlighten you and the rest of your liberal pals. From GlobalSecurity.org here's the facts on monthly death toll of US troops in Iraq:

    May - 121
    June - 98
    July MTD - 57

    rabiob, are you detecting a trend? And your comments are a little strange...........who are you rooting for?"

    Interesting.

    The Iraq Coalition Casualties website (that verifies deaths against DOD records) has different figures.

    May - 126
    June - 101
    July - 63

    Regardless, it is good that figures are dropping - let's just hope they continue to stay low.

    By the way, if you support the war as you appear to do, why haven't you joined up?
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    by neoconrcrazy July 26, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
    Odierno plays the bushit story which starts off blaming the iraqis for not accepting our "gift", then goes on to find others to blame - like iran

    he just can't admit the obvious:

    the worst president of this country has made the biggest intentional mistake in our foreign policy history.

    the responsibility for every death, lays on bushit's doorstep - and death stinks to high-helll


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    by neoconrcrazy July 26, 2007 9:38 AM PDT
    Odierno plays the bushit story which starts off blaming the iraqis for not accepting our "gift", then goes on to find others to blame - like iran

    he just can't admit the obvious:

    the worst president of this country has made the biggest intentional mistake in our foreign policy history.

    the responsibility for every death, lays on bushit's doorstep - and death stinks to high-helll


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    by bareemperor July 26, 2007 9:38 AM PDT
    General, looks like the numbers are coming back down to normal...
    Get those troops the h@ll out of Iraq.

    Period Total
    Jul-07 71
    Jun-07 108
    May-07 131
    Apr-07 117
    Mar-07 82
    Feb-07 85
    Jan-07 86
    Dec-06 115
    Nov-06 78
    Oct-06 110
    Sep-06 77
    Aug-06 66
    Jul-06 46
    Jun-06 63
    May-06 79
    Apr-06 82
    Mar-06 33
    Feb-06 58
    Jan-06 64
    Dec-05 68
    Nov-05 86
    Oct-05 99
    Sep-05 52
    Aug-05 85
    Jul-05 58
    Jun-05 83
    May-05 88
    Apr-05 52
    Mar-05 39
    Feb-05 60
    Jan-05 127
    Dec-04 76
    Nov-04 141
    Oct-04 68
    Sep-04 87
    Aug-04 75
    Jul-04 58
    Jun-04 50
    May-04 84
    Apr-04 140
    Mar-04 52
    Feb-04 23
    Jan-04 52
    Dec-03 48
    Nov-03 110
    Oct-03 47
    Sep-03 33
    Aug-03 43
    Jul-03 49
    Jun-03 36
    May-03 42
    Apr-03 80
    Mar-03 92
    Total 3934
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    by briannorwood July 26, 2007 9:39 AM PDT
    Hey RadioBob and mcdazz:

    If you two dumbdumbs would stop drinking the kool-aid for a minute, you might realize that it is in the middle of summer in Iraq too. With temps above 120 degrees everyday, everything slows down, including the terrorists.

    Now use your head and do year-to-year comparisons, and you'll see that things haven't gotten any better, despite the "so called surge".
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    by houser123 July 26, 2007 9:47 AM PDT
    Whether you call this a trend or not, it's remain good news that our troops are dieing at a lesser rate than in the past. The fact remains that our troops are still dieing and for what, a mis-led, mis-managed and a mis-appropriated war. Just how long does it take to train the Iraqi;s, we have been at this trainign for (4) years now and still they cannot or will not govern themselves. We gave them freedom from Saddam and yet they still refuse to govern or be trained. Enough is enough, it is time to leave. No on knows exactly what will happen when we leave. I beleive thet we allow the Iraqi people to settle thier differences within their own sovereign country. Murtha has it right, start pulling out our troops now.
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    by zootallures2 July 26, 2007 9:48 AM PDT
    "we think this is directly related to training that is conducted in Iran."

    So, when it comes to Iran, Iraq and the US are the bad guys. You attacked them to steal their oil more than once. I'm supposed to get mad at them because Exxon/Mobil/BP... wants their oil? The jews stole my car, anyway, so I'm with Iran on this one 100%! FU!
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    by clestes-2009 July 26, 2007 10:00 AM PDT
    "We have seen in the last three months a significant improvement in the capability of mortarmen and rocketeers... we think this is directly related to training that is conducted in Iran."

    Oh for God's sake!!!! Blame Iran for the troop's death!!!! What a load of s.h.i.t.

    Just think, if US troops were not in Iraq at all, THERE WOULD BE NO DEATHS!!!!

    Ever think about that????
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    by clestes-2009 July 26, 2007 10:16 AM PDT
    I am SICK of this s.h.i.t!!!!

    There is only ONE reason US troops are getting killed in Iraq at all. That reason is the BALD FACE LIE told by the Bush administration to whip up support for invading Iraq.

    Everyone remember?? Let me refresh your mind.

    SADDAM HAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!!!!

    We MUST invade to prevent him from attacking us!!! That lie STARTED the whole Iraq disaster. When NO WMD were found, we should have pulled out of Iraq then. It was obvious our mission there was a HUGE MISTAKE.

    Now 4-1/2 years later, we are still fumbling and bumbling around in Iraq, accomplishing NOTHING EXCEPT GETTING OUR TROOPS KILLED. We are stirring up resentments and fueling an insurgency that RIGHTLY sees us as OCCUPIERS.

    And you are BLAMING IRAN for troops deaths. Why not blame Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Lybia as well??? Why not blame THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S COMPLETE INCOMPETENCE!!!!

    This is nothing more than an bald face attempt to push a case for invading Iran!!!!!

    Beware America, the Bush administration is using the SAME LIES it used to invade Iraq to make the case to INVADE IRAN.

    DO NOT BE FOOLED INTO BELIEVING WE NEED TO INVADE IRAN!!!
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    by mike71067 July 26, 2007 10:27 AM PDT
    Although this is good news, relatively, it's actually bad news for Democrats who are relying on failure in Iraq in order to secure political points. It's sad, but true: Democrats NEED us to fail in Iraq. They NEED a high U.S. casualty rate - this is their only hope for obtaining political victory. Look at some of the angry posts from liberals in response to this article:

    "There is only ONE reason US troops are getting killed in Iraq at all. That reason is the BALD FACE LIE told by the Bush administration to whip up support for invading Iraq."

    "Oh for God's sake!!!! Blame Iran for the troop's death!!!! What a load of s.h.i.t."

    "the responsibility for every death, lays on bushit's doorstep - and death stinks to high-helll"


    I don't see how any American can truly say, "I'm proud to be a Democrat." They are the most un-American pieces of *** the world has ever know, and their political loves thrive on death and bad news. That's why they are so angry that the death rate in Iraq has dropped. They will respond angrily to this post, but the truth is obvious.
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    by prinzowhales July 26, 2007 10:30 AM PDT
    Casualty figures are decreasing, because, as another general told us the other day, US troops have decreased operations to 'mission essentials'. At the same time they are presenting in the 'battle areas' in overwhelming strength...guerrillas shy away from attacking such targets, and know that eventually the operation ends and its business as usual. The US strategy seems to be more political than military...they are decreasing the body count to decrease the antiwar momentum in the US. This is in line with the recent Chimp Executive Order that gives the Thief-in-Chief the power to steal the assets of those who oppose the war.

    Speculation on the reason for this in terms of psychological operations could be useful...We have, over the last few days been lulled a bit with the welcomed decline in US casualties. The 'news reality' is about the weather, the troubles of another Hollywood ditz, and an NFL animal torturer...as July turns to August we could well see more edifying spectacles, such as a chicken dancing on a hot plate. Will this be the silence before the storm?...yet another staged event to focus the public on the task set for it by the masters of the Regime?

    We've seen the rather ham-handed planting of memes by Homeland Security...Northern Command and various Washington weasels...'gut feelings'...al Qaeda cells...cheese on airplanes...the repetition of the 'follow-us-home' theme by the Chimp...What's next?
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    by one_american July 26, 2007 10:33 AM PDT
    Liberal Moonbats will never fight for freedom for any reason.

    So why would anyone listen to their hollow, false, and irrelevant opinions of a war?

    Liberals just want America to lay down and let terrorist take control of the world.

    Silly liberals.
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    by jedi08 July 26, 2007 10:39 AM PDT
    Its so sad that good news like less troops are dying in Iraq pisses off the left. They are so invested in defeat that they cringe at any good news coming out of Iraq. The worst thing for them would be for the surge to be sucessful. The best thing for them would be for the worst to happen in Iraq. They are the party of defeat, a bunch of wimps who are more like weather veins then people and there contemp for are troops and are cause and the drive-by media assistance in this is a sad, sad time in American History.

    All of you with Bush Phobia who refuse to listen to any good news from our Troops or country while giving countries like Iran and the Terrorist the bennifit of the doubt, you are all sad excuses for americans. The Surge is working, were not leaving and Hillary is unelectable!
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 10:41 AM PDT
    Silly liberals.
    Posted by One_American at 10:33 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    Does it make you feel like a big man when you write this? Do you feel brave and strong knowing full well the people you insult can't actually confront you? What if you met me on the street? You wouldn't say this to my face. My guess is that you wouldn't have the guts.

    But still, you're awfully brave from behind that keyboard. So brave, in fact, one can't help wonder why you're not serving in the military. The nation need big, strong, brave people like yourself. Why are you wasting your time whining about liberals? Join up, Mr. Big Man. Show us you can do more than type.
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    by mrhoppy-2009 July 26, 2007 10:42 AM PDT
    Wow! I have never seen so much unhinged hatred for our corrupt government or the press they obviously control.

    "The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the Major Media" - William Colby - Former CIA Director

    Glad to see America's men have finally remembered they have a fur bag with two peanuts inside instead of a peanut for a brain.

    America is waking up from a state of denial and we are not going to to allow this "Project For A New American Century" to go forward. It will be a century before the crater that once was this country stops smoking because the rest of the world in not going to put up with these war crimes either.

    This entire congress and I mean all of them, have got to go. The corrupt supreme court, the white house, the entire crime syndicate that has invaded our government on behalf of Israel and the merchants of death has got to go one way or another.
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 10:47 AM PDT
    The last 6 months have seen the highest death toll in US casualties during the war. Getting puffed up over the fact that only 60 some troops have died this month alone shows just what a sad state of affairs the US military is in, thanks to the idiocy of the Bush administration and the un-American fools who still support them and this war.
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    by mudrose-2009 July 26, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
    This entire congress and I mean all of them, have got to go. The corrupt supreme court, the white house, the entire crime syndicate that has invaded our government on behalf of Israel and the merchants of death has got to go one way or another.
    Posted by MrHoppy

    Why don't you give Hugo Chavez a call and ask him how to create a dictatorship.
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    by j-whitman July 26, 2007 10:53 AM PDT
    mudrose,,,, You have been sleeping in class -- Bush has been teaching Dictatorship 101 in the White House for 6 years.... Why ask Hugo Chavez ???
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    by hamiltongrad July 26, 2007 11:02 AM PDT
    I am a college Professor in Political History. What we are seeing in Iraq is a continuation of WWII. The Arab Islamic Nazis after the war were never fully punished and even though they were the engines and architects behind the mass killing of Jews in Europe and also what was to become Isreal. Since we did not "finish the job" fighting Evil then, we are doing so now.
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    by j-whitman July 26, 2007 11:05 AM PDT
    Hamiltongrad,,,, If you are a college Professor in Political History ----- I'm Jesus Christ
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    by mrhoppy-2009 July 26, 2007 11:05 AM PDT
    @ roger_inkart

    Rodger, ignore one_american. He does this for a living as part of the counter intelligence program. He says this kind of stuff every day. He is what is known as a forum troll.

    Americas "crazies" the poor white people from rural areas and small towns that join the military, are not well educated and tend to have a lot of ID based ego.

    One_american and the 1500 or so others Bush hired to do this illegal counter intel operation, control the crazies with name calling that insults their manhood.

    D.C. has no fear of middle class America but they do fear the crazies. That is why Bush was placed in the white house to begin with - to control the crazies while they bump them off.

    The death rate is far higher than any numbers posted. Mexicans are being disposed of in the Tigres and in mass graves, I have seen the video on youtube. Americans that die in helicopter or airplanes or in Germany are not counted. Ever wonder why they bring them to Dover at night and it is illegal to video the caskets?

    The Ashkenazi Jews rule America but the uneducated well armed crazies control it.

    One_americans job is to keep control them through ego while they are impoverished by exporting their jobs and then shipping them overseas. We have troops in 143 countries and they have troops here. People won't participate in the planned mass depopulation against fellow citizens.

    Watch one_american go crazy now. :-) He will have nothing factual or intelligent to say though.
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    by gkc99 July 26, 2007 11:10 AM PDT
    And the troop toll would drop even more when Bushit is compelled to let the Iraqis fight their own civil war.
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    by gkc99 July 26, 2007 11:14 AM PDT
    "Mexicans are being disposed of in the Tigres and in mass graves, I have seen the video on youtube."--Posted by MrHoppy

    Mexicans? What planet did you say you are on?

    Oh yeah, you're from Oregon. Sucking up too much crank again, Mr. Hoppy?

    "The Ashkenazi Jews rule America but the uneducated well armed crazies control it."--Posted by MrHoppy


    I think it's actually ruled by White Anglo-Saxon Protestants--you're a weird mix--no SH*T!
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    by prinzowhales July 26, 2007 11:14 AM PDT
    The first time they tried to frame Iran with a display of Eastern European weaponry falsely attributed to the Iranians, a sour note crept into the proceedings--another military PR flak, obviously not on the same page, announced with due pride that his unit had captured a IED-making facilities that was making the deadly bombs that were being attributed to the Iranians.

    Now attacks on our soldiers are always backed by Iranian weapons, Iranian training or, perversely, by al Qaeda, which like a puppy, will follow us home if we don't run over it and crush its little head with our pickup truck.

    Kurt Nimmo reports today at-- http://kurtnimmo.com/ --regarding internal defense department documents about the success of the 'Zarqawi PSYOP'. It doesn't take much gray matter to connect the dots and figure out that the rest of 'al Qaeda in Iraq' comes mostly out of the Pentagram's magic PSYOPS bag of tricks.

    Another staged PSYOP attack on the 'Homeland' would be a cover for a market collapse and the final death throes of the so-called dollar-- an unbacked "note" from a paper mill operated by the Treasury for the benefit of the private Federal Reserve. 'Helicopter' Bernacki is hardly an inspiring Chairman if your goal is to maintain the value of the unit of exchange as mentioned, if memory serves, in the bank's charter. What's coming next?
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    by jedi08 July 26, 2007 11:15 AM PDT
    The last 6 months have seen the highest death toll in us Causalties in the war.
    roger-inkart

    Its a good thing we didn't listen to people like you in world war II, or we would all be speaking German.

    Also I did serve in Iraq and I find your Anti American talk distructive.

    P.s. I would love to meet some of you anti military anti american folks in the street some day.
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 11:19 AM PDT
    I am a college Professor in Political History. What we are seeing in Iraq is a continuation of WWII. The Arab Islamic Nazis after the war were never fully punished and even though they were the engines and architects behind the mass killing of Jews in Europe and also what was to become Isreal. Since we did not "finish the job" fighting Evil then, we are doing so now.
    Posted by Hamiltongrad at 11:02 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    Really. At what school do you teach? My, I didn't realize "Christian Action for Israel" had a university. Or is it some other pro-Israel ultra-right wing lunatic organization that owns your (a-hem) school?

    But, for fun, let's go with this zionist garbage for the sake of argument. Firstly, why is Bush wrapping all this up under the guise of a "War on Terror?" Why isn't he being honest with America? Secondly, how does punishing the decendents of these so-called "Arab Islamic Nazis" make the US more safe? How does it help your average American who is paying for this war out of his own pocket?
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 11:23 AM PDT
    Also I did serve in Iraq and I find your Anti American talk distructive.

    Posted by jedi08 at 11:15 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    Iraq? Are you sure you didn't serve on the frozen planet of Hoth, "Jedi?"
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    by mrhoppy-2009 July 26, 2007 11:30 AM PDT
    @ Hamiltongrad

    Now that is funny! You are a Zionist shill or a moron but not a professor of history.

    WW1 and WW2 were started on false pretense as all wars are. They were fought to break the military alliance between Turkey and Germany in order to take Palestine to create the Jewish state.

    This plan is the basis of Zionism which began in 1898 with the eventual goal of world domination through the central banks which are controlled by the Jews in every country except Belarus. Belarus will not let a Jew hold high office because of this global conspiracy.

    This is the same communist conspiracy that McCarthy was trying to expose.

    Oh yeah, here are a few more histoy lessons. The war going on now is a continuation of WWII. Carl Roves granpa was named Rovertine - Hitlers propaganda man. Bushs grandpa (a central banker) gave IG Farbin 100 million to build 5 death camps and lost his assets in 1942 under the Trading With The Enemies Act.

    According to the red cross in a 1971 revised estimate, 271,000 Jews died in the death camps. Millions Germans Poles also died there. Hitler was of Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.

    Not all Jews are involved in this, not by a long shot but it is Jewish custom to not out another Jew. That is the reason that this conspiracy has been so successful until now.
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    by sandy19731 July 26, 2007 11:34 AM PDT
    Hamiltongrad,
    You're a college professor.
    So, what's the ISBN of the textbook you're using this fall?
    I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 11:35 AM PDT
    roger_inkart - Not a surprise that you're an
    a sshole.
    Posted by guyfrompa45 at 11:29 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    I'd rather be that than a fraud.

    I find it amusing that so often the right-wingers here feel the need to trot out personal claims to prop up their flagging arguments (I'm a professor, I served in Iraq, etc) Now, why is that?

    Personally, I don't automatically trust people who make such claims on these boards. I've seen too many frauds over the years. If you make a claim such as "I served in Iraq" you had better be willing to prove it, otherwise it just looks like some keyboard warrior who needs to justify his position by telling fibs.
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    by j-whitman July 26, 2007 11:37 AM PDT
    Anyone who thinks there ever was or counld be "Arab Islamic Nazis" -- Doesn't know the 1st thing about Nazi's or Islam.
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 11:39 AM PDT
    They'll be easy to spot, they'll be the ones hiding and cowaring in the corner.
    Posted by guyfrompa45 at 11:32 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    Too funny! Like it's not the conseravtives who ran and hid under the skirt of Bush when he promised to protect you. Unlike you, we weren't willing to jetison all our dignity and civil rights so Bush could wipe his feet on the Constitution under the name of the "War on Terror."

    God, you people are SUCH hypocrites!
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    by j-whitman July 26, 2007 11:45 AM PDT
    guyfrompa45,,,, Hold on there --- Stop calling Americans, un-patriotic & un-American idiot when your own Patriotism stops at Party
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    by roger_inkart July 26, 2007 11:51 AM PDT
    You liberals will be the downfall of this country.
    Posted by guyfrompa45 at 11:42 AM : Jul 26, 2007

    So the ultra-right keeps saying. Could it be you've simply found a target for your bitter hatred and a convienent group of people to blame for all the nation's ills?

    For a group of people who haven't been represented in the US government for so long, I find it sad and amusing lunatics like yourself still work yourself into a rich, foamy lather of indignation at the very thought of our supposed ruining of the nation.

    If you're unhappy with where the nation is, why don't you look to the people who have been running it? And are still running it? Cause, buddy, it ain't us.
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    by mrhoppy-2009 July 26, 2007 11:51 AM PDT
    one_american, did you change your user name to guyfrompa45?

    Sorry dude, I contaminated the world already and my children will never fight in wars for Israel or Zionism. They went to college and got high grades and now they are contaminating the world. Does my huge potent gentile peanut sack frighten you?

    Like I said, you would not have anything factual to respond with. Instead nothing but bumper sticker slams designed to control the crazies you fear most. Thanks again for making my point!

    Unfortunately Americas rural people are waking up to the reality that they have been exploited by the Zionist Ashkenazi Jews that control our government, medical system, financial system, legal system and banking system. You know, everything that is corrupt and exploiting America these days.

    Enjoy your day, I have some contamination work to do on the wife. Yum! :-)
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