USDA Paid Dead Farmers $1.1B

Report: Between 1999 And 2005, Government Made Farm Payments To More Than 170,000 Dead Farmers

(AP)  The Agriculture Department sent $1.1 billion in farm payments to more than 170,000 dead people over a seven-year period, congressional investigators say.

The findings by the Government Accountability Office were released Monday as the House prepared to debate and pass farm legislation this week that would govern subsidies and the department's programs for the next five years.

GAO auditors reviewed payments from 1999 through 2005 in the report, which was requested by Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley, senior Republican on the Senate Finance Committee.

"It's unconscionable that the Department of Agriculture would think that a dead person was actively engaged in the business of farming," said Grassley.

The auditors said they found that the department has not been conducting the necessary checks to ensure that subsidy payments are proper.

"USDA has made farm payments to estates more than two years after recipients died, without determining, as its regulations require, whether the estates were kept open to receive these payments," their report said.

Of the identified payments to deceased farmers' estates or businesses, 40 percent went to those who had been dead more than three years, and 19 percent went to those who had been dead for seven or more years.

John Johnson, a deputy administrator for the Farm Service Agency, said there is no indication that the payments were improper, since some rules allow estates to continue receiving money after a two-year grace period. The department is hoping to rely less on self-reporting and is working with the Social Security Administration to boost its record keeping, he said.

Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said the report bolsters the argument there should be lower ceilings and stricter limits on farm subsidies.

"Given extremely tight budget restraints, it is no longer tolerable to permit billions of dollars in farm bill payments to go to individuals who in instances don't even farm or are no longer alive," he said.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said he is looking into ways to stop estates from continuing to collect farm payments long after the designated recipient for them has died.

"They have plenty of people to check to make sure they aren't handing out payments to dead people, for God's sake," he said.

The GAO findings were first reported Monday by The Washington Post.

[sandy994]

It just boggles the mind how incompetent our government has become. Paying billions out to dead people, letting dirty and hazardous food coming in to this country from China. Not paying our returning soldiars their due. Its time we clean house people in the next election and I don't just mean the House. Our government is failing us, as it failed the people in Katrina, the homeless, the uninsured, our murdered pets. What is next? Contaminated baby food? If you arent registered to vote, its not to early to start thinking about it.

[rbrianhill]

Our government is broken. It's time to elect someone like Ron Paul before our country is beyond repair.

[ov442]

the vast consumption of farm subsidies goes to giant agri-businesses like ConAgra, or ADM, and they bought up millions of acres of land on purpose just to get free tax money from the government.
Why dont we use some of these subsidies to subsidize Corn production and ethanol production and produce bio fuel and lower its prices to the consumer instead so we create a true infrastructure of alternative fuel production without the big corporations purposely charging us more for it when theres no excuse except more gorging of profits from us beat up consumers.

[bhappy2-2]

So, where do I sign up? WAIT!!! I don't have to actually DIE do I?

[tucano2]

What a load of manure! This press-release is pure republican politics near its worst. Dead farmers? The money undoubtedly went where it had gone before, that is, corporations, LLC's, Trustees, and so on that "live on" past an individual's death, and got used just as it always has been used, that is, to grow our food.

[infidel_us]

Well, we pay farmers NOT to grow crops.....why don't we pay them for NOT being alive? Makes sense - in a perverted, twisted, logical way. :)

[oldpilot954]

I agree that an estate should not recieve subsidies if it is no longer an active farm. However, if the estate is operating as a farm, then what is the difference whether the original founder is alive or dead.
I am no great fan of farm subsidies but I also understand that farm prices must go up if the farmers do not get some kind of help. I look at current market prices for grain and they are very similar to when I was in the grain industry back in the early 1970s. Yet a farmer's expense has multiplied immensely. Fuel prices have gone up 10-fold, equipment prices about the same amount, labor proces have gone up about 5X, and agricultural chemicals have become legally dificult and expensive to use. Yet we still pay the farmer less than 20% more per bushel.

[clarkssuppor]

I agree the government needs to be better at doing things than it does currently. A smaller government would be better.

But frankly, this is not as big of a deal as it sounds. It is not as if Social Security were paying retirement benefits to dead people. Once a person dies, the obligation of SS either is generally either eliminated or reduced. But USDA payments are under a contract and would be due to the estate or the heirs of the property. Often rural folks do not go through all the legal hoops when a person dies. My experience as a CPA is that the SS benefits are always ended, but the surviving spouse usually takes over the farm operation and the UDSA payments continue to be made, rightfully directly to the surviving spouse, but sometimes the paperwork is not submitted and the checks still go to the deceased farmer. I do not think the government is out much money at the end of the day from the situation described.

[hwk_i67]

Posted by realpatriot1 at 02:01 PM : Jul 24, 2007

Amen! How about some common sense governing and stop with the partisan politics?

[realpatriot1]

OK folks, let's not make this partison. The report indiates that it happened during the Clinton administration but was uncovered during the Bush administration.

Most people don't realize that the subsidies to relatively well off farmers in the U.S., Europe, & Japan are seen by the developing world as the greatest impediment to eliminating global poverty and the mother of all free trade violations which the World trade organization turns a blind eye to.

These subsidies need to be phased out.

[dangitdoug-2009]

Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said the report bolsters the argument there should be lower ceilings and stricter limits on farm subsidies.

"Given extremely tight budget restraints, it is no longer tolerable to permit billions of dollars in farm bill payments to go to individuals who in instances don't even farm or are no longer alive," he said.


So what he is saying is at one time it was tolerable to waste billions of dollars. I'd say his government salary is a waste of money.

[makthenif]

Makes you want to push for much smaller government that takes care of core government function like military, homeland security, treasury. Sickening!

[lochlan-2009]

Paying off the Republican voting base, heh?

[bareemperor]

Just a note -
This is happening on Bu$h's watch.

[billysdodge]

Before you make further assumptions, you should read the complete findings of the Post's report:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/22/AR2007072201128.html?referrer=emailarticle
It gives more info than this article, and it is hard for USDA to keep tabs on who passed away, unless it's reported to them.

[oleander8]

We pay our farmers not to farm and then we import our food from countries with no regulatory restraints. This gloabal economy is swell.

[laadaa]

Now that we have "figured out" that these payments were made erroneously, has anyone in the government initiated any procedures to try to get these payments from these estates, and the interest they generated? It is quite obvious that these dead people needed the money more then say our school or health systems or god forbid our homeless.

[rushlimpdrug]

With:
Dead Farmers paid $1.1B;
War on terror;
increase in crime;
the illegal problem;
corruption in corporate America;
jobs going to china;
sorry state of foods in America;
Americans fighting over lib, con, neocon.
Eight years ago the repubs were the answer.
Folks I am just plain tired of all the krap.
I believe both parties are worthless.
For me, voting anyone is just a method of voting someone out.
Is a third party feasible?
Would a third party help?

[antoniof123]

It is not a question of both parties having done this but if you recall the GOP came to power on the promise that they would put an end to stuff like this instead it got worst. My God they did put a Contract on America.

[gunnerv1]

macusweil Please take note of the year 1999 and then ask yourself what party was in office at the time this started. Don't get me wrong, I don't belive in subsidies for anything, PERIOD.