All-Night Iraq Debate Brings Little Change

Republicans Continue Filibuster Of Democratic-Led Legislation On U.S. Troop Withdrawal

(CBS/AP)  Senate Republicans mustered enough votes to scuttle a proposed U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, defeating legislation ordering U.S. troops home from Iraq and forcing Democrats back to the drawing board in their bid to end the war.

The 52-47 vote fell short of the 60 votes needed to cut off debate under Senate rules. It was a sound defeat for Democrats who say the U.S. military campaign, in its fifth year and requiring 158,000 troops, cannot tame the sectarian violence in Iraq.

"The amendment tells our enemies when they can take over in Iraq," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, a Republican.

The bill "is the wrong approach at the wrong time," he added.

The Senate debated the protracted war in Iraq in an all-night session. The speech-making marathon was in anticipation of Wednesday's vote on legislation that orders troop withdrawals within 120 days.

"We have to get us out of a middle of a civil war" said Sen. Joseph Biden. A political solution must be found "so when we leave Iraq, we don't just send our children home, we don't have to send our grandchildren back."

The legislation, initiated by Sens. Carl Levin and Jack Reed, both Democrats, would require President Bush to begin pulling troops out of Iraq in 120 days. After April 30, an unspecified number of troops would be allowed to remain in Iraq to fight terrorists, protect U.S. assets and train Iraqi security forces.

Before the vote, the Senate stopped for a prayer because as Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid explained, "If there was ever a time for a prayer it would be before this very important vote," CBS News correspondent Bob Fuss reported.

Most senators got a chance for a few hours of sleep even while a handful of their colleagues took turns droning on through the night with floor speeches.

The "live" audience for the speeches was sparse, however, and there was no indication how aggressive the sergeant-at-arms was being in carrying out his official instructions to keep members near the chamber — or whether he was insisting that they be awake.

"It pretty much widened the partisan divide," CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer said of the debate, adding that Democrats and Republicans are "talking past each other."

With a half-dozen spectators watching from the gallery, Republican and Democrats were among those speaking during the night, including presidential candidates John McCain and Hillary Clinton.

"All we have achieved are remarkably similar newspaper accounts of our inflated sense of the drama of this display and our own temporary physical fatigue," said McCain, the top Republican on the Armed Services Committee.

Republicans were mostly unified in their opposition to setting a deadline for troop withdrawals, with a few exceptions. Three Republicans — Sens. Gordon Smith, Olympia Snowe and Chuck Hagel — announced previously they would support the measure.

Sen. Susan Collins, a Republican, who is up for re-election next year, also voted to advance the bill. Spokesman Kevin Kelley said Collins believes the measure should be subject to a simple majority vote and not the 60 votes needed to end parliamentary delaying tactics. Kelley said the senator still opposes the legislation.

Other Republican members, while uneasy about the war, said they could not support legislation that would force Mr. Bush to adhere to a firm pullout date.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice planned to spend most of Wednesday in Congress lobbying lawmakers on Mr. Bush's Iraq policy, a senior State Department official said.

Rice's plans included spending up to five hours in the morning and early afternoon in group and private meetings in both the Senate and House. The focus would be Iraq and other foreign policy issues, including the Middle East, the official said.

Among lawmakers scheduled to meet with Rice were Biden, Smith, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., and House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio.

While the issue was momentous — a war more than four years in duration, costing more than 3,600 U.S. troops their lives as well as many thousands of Iraqis — the proceedings were thick with politics.

MoveOn.org, the anti-war group, announced plans for more than 130 events around the United States to coincide with the Senate debate, part of an effort to pressure Republicans into allowing a final vote on the legislation. A candlelight vigil and rally across the street from the Capitol building was prominent among them, with House leader, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, among those attending.

[joenc-2009]

I thought the GOP was the party of the UP OR DOWN vote?

It appears that the GOP is the party of the SIT AND SPIN Iraq strategy.

[jowand]

It's just a dog and pony by Reid the phony.

[houser123]

Where is Bill "Up or Down Vote" when we truly need him? In 08 there are enough neo-con republican senators up for election that can be sent packing if the people thta want this war to end will vote.What will happen if not, is Bush, Cheny and the other hinchmen will get a free ride and off load this debacle to the next administration. How many times have we heard give us more time? Now the report that all are waiting for from Patreaus will come out in September while the Iraqi Parliament is taking off the entire month of August. Anyone want to bet me the issue with oil revenue sharing will get passed by the end of this month? If you do , I got some oceanfront property I want to sell you.

[jjp735i]

And what was gained from this all nighter? Headlines and loss of sleep! Nothing else at all.

[jowand]

The issue is fighting terrorism, the average insurgency war takes about 10 to 15 years if you want to win. So we pull out of Iraq which country will you put the military into in force to fight Al Quaeda?

[r9119111]

JoeNC:

I like that: Republicans = "SIT AND SPIN"

I copied this from an article called, %u201CDemocratic Docility Is Over.%u201D

North Dakota Senator Kent Conrad, a principled Democrat from a rather red state who voted against authorizing Bush to go to war in Iraq and who "gets" the Senate as well as just about any member, raised the prospect of a new approach when he appeared last week on Air America's "Young Turks" program. Conrad explained that a Republican senator had recently told him the GOP leadership had adopted a strategy designed to "prevent any accomplishment" by the Democratic Congress. A key component of the strategy is to repeatedly threaten filibusters that force cloture votes %u2014 on the theory that, try as Democrats might to portray those votes as meaningful, all that most Americans would know is that under Democratic leadership nothing was getting done.

Conrad suggested that it might be wise to put the procedural debates aside and let the American people see what is really happening.

%u201CGO, DEMS!!!%u201D

[gkc99]

Why waste time on this?

Impeach NOW!

[tuckerndfw]

Summary of this political grandstanding:

Republicans: Stay the course, the surge is working, just give it another fifty years; George Bush is a great leader who chose a great general to lead us to victory.

Democrats: Withdraw combat troops from the fighting, leave them with a limited mission more in line with what the military is trained to do.

But, they are both playing politics with the lives of brave young men and women.

They should all be sent to Baghdad at their own expense (with their entire families) so they can demonstrate how to "win the war."

[mudrose-2009]

I thought the GOP was the party of the UP OR DOWN vote?

It appears that the GOP is the party of the SIT AND SPIN Iraq strategy.
Posted by JoeNC

To cheer you up further, on the 4th of July, an especially momentus day in the history of our Nation, a one Khaled Abdul-Fattah Dawoud Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, also known as Abu Shahid, was captured in Mosul. He is one of the highest-ranking Iraqi in the leadership of al-Qaida in Iraq leaders. In fact,

"Al-Mashhadani is believed to be the most senior Iraqi in the al-Qaida in Iraq network," Bergner said. He said al-Mashhadani was a close associate of Abu Ayub al-Masri, the Egyptian-born head of al-Qaida in Iraq.

Bergner said al-Mashhadani served as an intermediary between al-Masri and Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri.

I don't think we are sitting and spinning, but I will tell you the Dumnos have finally succeeded in overreaching so much so that they are now at 16%. Their theatrics only shows how desperate they are to lose this War. They cannot win the election if we win the War. Don't care about the troops, don't care about the country. Oh, and if I can make you feel even better, countries like Germany and France and looking into their own versions of the Patriot Act. Seems to find the pre-emptive quality about it righteous. Have a great day.

[mike71067]

Do we really need more evidence that these Dumbocrat boneheads are completely useless? Come on. As one Republican put it, "they're not going to accomplish anything in these last 7 hours that they haven't accomplished in the past 7 months. Lame."

This whole thing is a publicity stunt, and everyone knows it. That's why the Dumbocrats are proving to be a bunch of miserable failures - they're all show, no substance. And they can't blame the GOP on their failures either. The Dumbocrats are fractured in their support for the war. They all talk tough (to appease the far-left lunatics), but in reality, their ideas for solving the Iraq issue are very similar to the GOP's.

[drummer94]

It appears the pos repugnants are going to continue down loony-toon's path of self-destruction. They know they are krap and do not give a shiit (pun intended) because they are almost history. What complete idiots they are. When this is all done, America is going to rise up, smack 'em around, take all their money, and give it to all the dead and wounded warriors families. Useless friggin morons.

[rafterman1]

===Dumnos...Don't care about the troops===

3000+ dead. If you support American troops staying in Iraq, fighting a civil war they cannot win, you support the killing of Ameircan soldiers for politcal and monetary reasons. All your Dem and liberal sniping isn't going to change that fact. You are an accessory to murder. Deal with it.

[tuckerndfw]

No military has ever defeated "terrorists," never have, never will.

Terrorism is a tactic, it is not an enemy that can be defeated. Waging war on terror is similar to waging war on knife fighting.

Anyone who supports the war on terror is a moron. (unless he is a war profiteer, in which case, he is a criminal)

[ioweign]

The issue is fighting terrorism, the average insurgency war takes about 10 to 15 years if you want to win. So we pull out of Iraq which country will you put the military into in force to fight Al Quaeda?
Posted by jowand at 08:10 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Well, let's see. al Qaeda and bin Laden were in Afghanistan and the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Bush invaded Iraq. Maybe Bush will attack and invade Peru next. It must be that Texas National Guard training and growing up a cowboy. All hat No cattle.

[mudrose-2009]

They should all be sent to Baghdad at their own expense (with their entire families) so they can demonstrate how to "win the war."
Posted by tuckerndfw

Perhaps, now, you will get a glimpse of what Gen. Patton predicted. "From hereon wars will be fought by politicians."

If they were so hell bent on ending it, they would cut the funding. They won't because they know they will be held accountable for the debacle that will follow, just like Vietnam. But what they don't conprehend today, either, is that they will still be held accountable for their grandstanding, theatrics and micromanagment.

[r9119111]

Front line Military duty should be a requirement for holding any office in our government. I suggest that all of our leaders (who aren't veterans) should spend 30 days in Iraq riding around in a Military vehicle or patroling the streets with the troops. Take all members of the Iraqi Government with you. Then come back and pass your legislation.

[tuckerndfw]

Posted by mudrose at 08:31 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Democrats and Republicans both work for the same people. Neither party intends to end the war. Their war profiteering political donors will not allow them to cut off their cash cow (the US Treasury).

But, in the meantime, they are going to continue peddling their snake oil so Americans won't assassinate them.

Democrats could end the war next week. Democrats have the power and authority to shut down the entire government until Bush alters his policies.

If that's what they intended to do. Which they don't.

[omega39-2009]

This is more how a filibuster should work...The Republicans that want to stop this bill should be forced to live on the Senate floor to stop it. This is why nothing is getting done, the minority leader goes "Ahem, we are going to filibuster" and the legislation is quickly pulled.

[mudrose-2009]

===Dumnos...Don't care about the troops===

3000+ dead. If you support American troops staying in Iraq, fighting a civil war they cannot win, you support the killing of Ameircan soldiers for politcal and monetary reasons. All your Dem and liberal sniping isn't going to change that fact. You are an accessory to murder. Deal with it.

Posted by Rafterman1

Then we should leave Afghanistan, too. Since we don't want any more war dead. You and the cronies you so fervently support don't give a rats azz about the troops. Not one little rats azz. And I resent the fact that you seem to hold our military as victims. These fine young men and women have made a conscious decision to support and defend our Constitution and our Country. Yet you and the Dumnos make them out as victims. I speak to the wives down in Fort Bragg often. They are truly pissed off at Bush, but when it comes to the soldiers, they say they are all behind Bush. The Dem and Liberal snipping on the Hill isn't going to change anyone's minds. They are as clear as glass. Grandstanding theatrics and they don't give a hoot about the troops. Why don't yo ask that alcholic, drunken, bastardo from Massachusetts what he thinks of the troops.

[drummer94]

Hey muddy. If you and the rest of the morons were so "hell bent" on ending it, it would be over. As usual the repugs do things half-azz at the expense of others. The democrats would not f@ck around, do it and get it over with, 'cause it's the "right" thing to do.

[neoconrcrazy]

they will still be held accountable for their grandstanding, theatrics and micromanagment.
Posted by mudrose

1. "mission accomplished"
2. red-green-yellow-blue terror "threats"
3. Generals tell bush we need 300'000 troops - they're fired

So you must be referring to the republican administration?

[tuckerndfw]

Front line Military duty should be a requirement for holding any office in our government. I suggest that all of our leaders (who aren't veterans) should spend 30 days in Iraq riding around in a Military vehicle or patroling the streets with the troops. Take all members of the Iraqi Government with you. Then come back and pass your legislation.

Posted by r9119111 at 08:33 AM : Jul 18, 2007

I agree in principle, but disagree with the details.

Any politician who votes for war should be required to serve a minimum of 12 months as a private in the Army or Marines in a front line unit as an infantryman. And, required to actually serve out on the line, no cushy office jobs in the Hq.

I wish I had the power to snap my fingers and send all of these warmongers to the "front lines" of Afghanistan or Iraq. Maybe they wouldn't be so eager to wage war on people who do not threaten us.

[rafterman1]

===You and the cronies you so fervently support don't give a rats azz about the troops. Not one little rats azz. And I resent the fact that you seem to hold our military as victims.===

The soldiers are victims of a corrupt government and it's sychophant supporters like you. Tell me how supporting leaving soldiers in a no-win situation is sppporting them? Fighitng an unseen enemy, cleaning out the same houses day after day, week after week, dealing with a population where half of them hate their guts. Yeah, I'm sure the troops just love being there instead of home with their families.

You are an accessory to murder. Deal with it.

[mudrose-2009]

What complete idiots they are. When this is all done, America is going to rise up, smack 'em around, take all their money, and give it to all the dead and wounded warriors families. Useless friggin morons.
Posted by drummer94

I have proposed to the powers that be that all Veterans should have free medical care at any facility they choose in this country, gratis. I believe they deserve the best treatement on the fact of this earth and I believe that if anyone on the Hill balks about it, they should should never be given any medical treatment gratis themselves. You do know that those bastardos don't pay for their care, right? I have sent an email to the WH about it and I think this is good policy. Whatever hospitals and clinics they choose. VA, Private. Whatever.

[drummer94]

Agreed, mudrose. Problem I got? The obit I read yesterday of the dude from my hometown. He stepped on a landmine. Walt Reed or any other hospital won't bring him back.

[marsum42]

tucker..... "people who do not threaten us." I believe ALL people should be required to read a newspaper or watch a newstation once in awhile. These people want us and the Iraqi citizens DEAD! If they weren't over there, they would be (and probably already are) over HERE. Wake up, people. We are under threat from these fundamentalists and it's not going to change when we get "out of Iraq." The Democrats are now saying we should be in Afghanistan instead of Iraq - do they think we won't loose soldiers in Afghanistan?? War is war - we go where the enemy is and people get killed defending their country. Read some history!!!

[tuckerndfw]

As a direct result of the invasion of Iraq, there are over 2 million Iraqis who lost everything they owned, including their homes, and have become stateless refugees. Some lost members of their families.

If only 1% of these extremely angry, desperate people decide to resort to violence, that will be over 20,000 brand new terrorists created by the Bush administration.

They don't live in Iraq anymore, they aren't "Muslim extremists," they are totally beyond the reach of US forces or intelligence, and if they decide to strike within the US, we better hope our law enforcement agencies are up to the job. Because the military created them and is incapable of eliminating them.

No military has ever defeated terrorists. And never will.

[rafterman1]

===Dumnos...Grandstanding theatrics and they don't give a hoot about the troops.===

Actions speak louder than words. Dems put forward an amendment recently to ensure that soldiers who spend a year in combat get one year at home before returning, a fair view by anyone's standards. Repubs filibustered it. Fifteen month tours, a month off, followed by another fifteen months is just fine with them. Repubs say they support the troops, but when it comes time to voting for it, i.e., increasing the VA budget, bringing troops home from an unwinnable situation or the forementioned amendment, Dems vote to support the troops and Repubs have voted consistently against the troops. The Congressional record is there for everyone to see.

Actions speak louder than words.

[tuckerndfw]

War is war - we go where the enemy is and people get killed defending their country. Read some history!!!

Posted by marsum42 at 08:47 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Yeah, I know, I served in the US Army during the Vietnam conflict. But, I didn't get to go to Vietnam, I was sent to Europe so I could become a target for the Baader-Meinhof "gang." We got bulletins all the time about people who had been injured or killed by them.

Afghanis and Iraqis did not threaten the US, nor did they attack the US.

OBL is from Saudi Arabia, as are many of his followers. So, if we are going to take war to them, we need to invade Saudi Arabia.

Maybe you should read something other than a newspaper.

[opinionrules]

Have you ever wintessed a more ineffective group of overpaid federal blowhards than the US Democratic Senators?

[rochest]

"We are at the crossroads of hope and reality, and the time has come to address reality," said Republican Senator Olympia Snowe, adding that the Iraqi government was guilty of "serial intransigence" when it came to trying to solve the country's political problems.


Dumnos...Don't care about the troops===

3000+ dead. If you support American troops staying in Iraq, fighting a civil war they cannot win, you support the killing of Ameircan soldiers for politcal and monetary reasons. ..... You are an accessory to murder. Deal with it.

Posted by Rafterman1 at 08:29 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Republicans that vote to give the president cover are playing politics and not beening Statesman.

we must change course we must do it now !

support our troops.... save their lives... bring them home now

[mudrose-2009]

Agreed, mudrose. Problem I got? The obit I read yesterday of the dude from my hometown. He stepped on a landmine. Walt Reed or any other hospital won't bring him back.
Posted by drummer94

Yeah, I hear ya. The dead are dead. Only the man upstairs can heal that. What we've got down here is our responsibility.

[opinionrules]

When the US military leadership determines that they are in a no-win position, they should voice that and then adopt a new course.

[tuckerndfw]

Have you ever wintessed a more ineffective group of overpaid federal blowhards than the US Democratic Senators?

Posted by OpinionRules at 08:57 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Absolutely, one of them is currently on C-SPAN pontificating about those evil Iranians and blathering on about someone establishing an Islamic government in Iraq. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, seems to fit the bill of overpaid, ignorant blowhard.

HELLO???? Iraq currently has an Islamic government thanks to the US.

The overpaid blowhards are George Bush, his entire administration and the GOP generally.

[liberalme]

There is going to be such a change of leadership in Washington in 2008--I just can't wait. Washington itself will be "spinning its wheels".

Democrats grandstanding and Republicans hanging on to killing--2008 can't come soon enough!

Our military isn't being held as victims, they are being held hostage by its own government.

[ioweign]

Have you ever wintessed a more ineffective group of overpaid federal blowhards than the US Democratic Senators?
Posted by OpinionRules at 08:57 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Yes - The Shrub - All hat No Cattle

March 3, 1999
President George H.W.Bush
In explaining to Gulf War veterans why he chose not to pursue the war further, President Bush said, "Whose life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we're going to show our macho? We're going into Baghdad. We're going to be an occupying power %u2014 America in an Arab land %u2014 with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous." -Wikipedia

Evidently the apple does fall a great distance from the tree!

[tuckerndfw]

When the US military leadership determines that they are in a no-win position, they should voice that and then adopt a new course.

Posted by OpinionRules at 09:00 AM : Jul 18, 2007

A. The military does not have the authority to establish policy;

B. Military officers are prohibited by law (UCMJ) from publicly opposing their commanders or politicians;

and,

C. Military personnel generally are prohibited by law (UCMJ) from challenging or opposing their superiors.

The military is totally subservient to civilian leaders, which makes it imperative that civilians actively speak out against the atrocities committed against them, our brave young men and women they are, by these grandstanding politicians bought and paid for by war profiteers.

[tuckerndfw]

Now, blowhard Lindsey Graham, R-SC, is comparing al qaida to German Nazis.

Anyone who makes any such comparison is a moron.

In Blowhard Graham's case, he is just another slimeball bought and paid for by war profiteers.

[random_radar]

People say "America--love it or leave it!" Well, our courageous soldiers love America, but they still get to leave it--for Iraq. Too bad they never get to come home and enjoy the rights and freedoms they used to have. But I guess dying for your country is what Nationalism is all about. I support our troops--and their widows and orphans!

[mudrose-2009]

Have you ever wintessed a more ineffective group of overpaid federal blowhards than the US Democratic Senators?
Posted by OpinionRules

No, but they make for good theatre now, don't they? I'm all for waiting for that report by Patraeus in September. After that, well, a lot of feet are going to be held to the fire, then.

Dems put forward an amendment recently to ensure that soldiers who spend a year in combat get one year at home before returning, a fair view by anyone's standards. Repubs filibustered it.
Posted by Rafterman1

Yeah, wasn't that part of the Supplemental with all the other pork they added to funding the troops? Wonder why they didn't go through?

And that fat, drunk, murder for Massachusetts pulled another stunt again with the stuffing legislation into a defense bill. Anything for the base. *** the troops, but take care of the base.

[tuckerndfw]

Yeah, wasn't that part of the Supplemental with all the other pork they added to funding the troops? Wonder why they didn't go through?

Posted by mudrose at 09:15 AM : Jul 18, 2007

George Bush has never vetoed any spending bill due to its inclusion of "pork."

The GOP has loaded more "pork" into their spending bills than any administration in US history. But, Bozo doesn't care whose money he spends so long as it is not his own.

[mudrose-2009]

Where's the outrage from other educated republicans when there's a f0ol out there saying all this rubbish ? Where ? ..... Muddy, what do you think ?
Posted by parrot2

I say Senator Graham's words are righteous. Oh, a little present for you.

A one Khaled Abdul-Fattah Dawoud Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, also known as Abu Shahid, was captured in Mosul on July 4th. He is one of the highest-ranking Iraqi in the leadership of al-Qaida in Iraq leaders. In fact,

"Al-Mashhadani is believed to be the most senior Iraqi in the al-Qaida in Iraq network," Bergner said. He said al-Mashhadani was a close associate of Abu Ayub al-Masri, the Egyptian-born head of al-Qaida in Iraq.

Bergner said al-Mashhadani served as an intermediary between al-Masri and Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri.

I don't think we are sitting and spinning, but I will tell you the Dumnos have finally succeeded in overreaching so much so that they are now at 16%. Their theatrics only shows how desperate they are to lose this War. They cannot win the election if we win the War. Don't care about the troops, don't care about the country. Oh, and if I can make you feel even better, countries like Germany and France and looking into their own versions of the Patriot Act. Seems to find the pre-emptive quality about it righteous. Have a great day.

[processor2]

parrot2

Lindsey Graham, R-SC, comparing al qaida to German Nazis,
is alot more accurate than comparing Bush to Hitler.

Anyone who makes any such comparison is a moron.

.

[processor2]

parrot2

Lindsey Graham, R-SC, comparing al qaida to German Nazis,
is alot more accurate than comparing Bush to Hitler.

Anyone who makes any such comparison is a moron.

.

[processor2]

parrot2

Lindsey Graham, R-SC, comparing al qaida to German Nazis,
is alot more accurate than comparing Bush to Hitler.

Anyone who makes any such comparison is a moron.

.

[jowand]

parrot2
Actually Al Quaeda is worse than the nazis haven't you been following what is happening. Bin Laden has a fatwa to come to the USA and kill 10,000,000 Americans, of which 40% have to be children. You pull out of Iraq where will you send our military to, which country to fight Bin Ladens animals.

[drummer94]

Birdie: The agenda of both parties, is what suits themselves best, today, and what we think of them. Talk about self-centered. Talk,talk, talk-no action- and people are dying. We can muse about why one ideology is "better" than another, in the end people are dying. This stuff should and is ripping our hearts out. That distinction is what makes us Americans.

[tuckerndfw]

Lindsey Graham, R-SC, comparing al qaida to German Nazis, is alot more accurate than comparing Bush to Hitler.

Posted by processor2 at 09:20 AM : Jul 18, 2007

Really?

Please list those similarities.

Given the fact Hitler and Bush both share similar tactics of initiating unnecessary wars of aggression in direct violation of international law, based on phony "threats," demonstrates Hitler and Bush have far more in common than they do dissimilarities.

[rafterman1]

===Yeah, wasn't that part of the Supplemental with all the other pork they added to funding the troops? Wonder why they didn't go through?===

No, it wasn't. It was a July 10th vote (or in this case, non-vote since it was filibustered).

Nice try.

[tuckerndfw]

Nazi Germany conquered continental Europe by military force in less time than the US has been waging war on al qaida.

Anyone who compares a ragtag band of thugs to the German Nazis is demonstrably a moron.