Suicide Blast Kills 15 In Pakistan

Pakistan Facing Increasing Violence As Al Qaeda Settles In Along Border

(CBS/AP)  A suicide bomber killed 15 people at a rally for Pakistan's suspended chief justice Tuesday, officials said, ratcheting up tension in a country already reeling from a burst of violence by Islamist extremists.

Pakistani security officials tell CBS News that the head of the suspected bomber had been found at the scene. CBS News' Farhan Bokhari reports local television was showing images of body parts strewn about the area where the rally was taking place.

The attack came before a verdict in a legal battle that has pitched judge Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf and which could determine the U.S.-backed military ruler's political future.

Musharraf condemned the blast, which followed a string of suicide attacks on security forces and the storming of Islamabad's radical Red Mosque, as a "terrorist act."

However, Chaudhry's supporters accused authorities of being behind the latest mayhem in the capital.

Chaudhry was still in a car heading toward the district court in Islamabad to address lawyers who have led mass protests against his suspension when the attacker struck at about 8:30 p.m.

Kamal Shah, a top Interior Ministry official, said 15 people were killed and 44 others wounded. Opposition party activists, police officers and bystanders were believed to be among the victims.

Three security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record, said it was a suicide attack and that the severed head of the victim had been found.

The attacker blew himself up on a tree-lined street leading to the large tent erected next to the court just as hundreds of people converged on the area, which was also busy with evening shoppers.

Police ran yellow tape around the scene of the blast, where pools of blood, pieces of flesh and scattered shoes lay on the asphalt next to a blood-spattered car.

"I was not far away from the stage set up for the chief justice when I heard a big bang," said Tahir Abbas, a lawyer who had come to attend the rally.

The attacker struck next to stalls set up by Pakistan's two main opposition parties of exiled former prime ministers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif.

Chaudhry was still several kilometers (miles) away at the time and arrived shortly afterward at the scene, where police ushered his vehicle toward another entrance to the tent.

He spoke briefly with lawyers, who said he had offered prayers for the victims, but canceled his speech and left.

"This was an attack on the chief justice," said Munir Malik, one of Chaudhry's lawyers.

Asked who could be behind it, Malik accused Pakistan's intelligence agencies, and said the government wanted "to get rid of the chief justice."

However, Raja Pervez Ashraf, a leader of Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party, said the attacker had targeted her activists.

"Most among the dead and injured are our supporters," Ashraf said.

Television footage showed supporters of Bhutto wailing with grief and chanting slogans against the government.

Musharraf "condemned in the strongest terms the latest terrorist act which took place in Islamabad," the state-run Associated Press of Pakistan reported.

He ordered an immediate inquiry and appealed to the public "to remain calm, vigilant and assist the authorities in unearthing the culprits and bringing them to justice."

Shah said it was too early to "raise a finger at someone" in connection with the attack.

Some analysts and diplomats expect Bhutto to team up with Musharraf in a power-sharing government after elections due later this year. She was the only opposition leader to voice strong support for the crackdown on the Red Mosque.

Bombings and suicide attacks blamed on Islamist extremists had already killed more than 100 people since Musharraf's decision to attack militants holed up in the mosque and deploy troops in militant strongholds near the Afghan border.

Leaders of the Taliban and al Qaeda have called for revenge attacks, and the latest suicide blast killed three soldiers in the volatile North Waziristan region earlier Tuesday.

However, there had been no indication that they would target Chaudhry, whose refusal to resign in the face of charges of misconduct has catalyzed opposition to Musharraf's seven-year rule.

[navyretired2]

Problem is, its only a matter of time before they get ahold of a WMD, sneak it in here (which isn't hard to do), and really give us a black eye. If ANYBODY thinks this isn't exactly what they want to do, I suggest new glasses, new brain, etc.

What will the U.S. response be when we get hit with a nuke?

[ioweign]

Problem is, its only a matter of time before they get ahold of a WMD, sneak it in here (which isn't hard to do), and really give us a black eye. If ANYBODY thinks this isn't exactly what they want to do, I suggest new glasses, new brain, etc.

What will the U.S. response be when we get hit with a nuke?
Posted by NavyRetired2 at 08:24 AM : Jul 17, 2007

Well, if Bush is President - attack and invaded Luxembourg!

[phil-in-fin]

Well, everyone, even the lest informed of society, except Bush, has been saying that al Qaeda is along the Pakistan Afghanistan border, not Iraq ...

That al Qaeda has always been along the Pakistan Afghanistan border ...

How is this news to anyone?

This is not even news to Bush, as I am certain that he has always known that al Qaeda has always been along the Pakistan Afghanistan border (can he be THAT stupid?) ... I am certain that he thought that Iraq looked like a "better, easier" target (though not the right target with regard to eliminating terrorist groups), perhaps thinking initially that a war in Iraq could be won :-)

[lars008-2009]

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm

....that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[afmca]

I am a liberal and I say that US and NATO troops should invade the Northern area of Pakistan - not to hold but to eliminate the alQaeda threat. They should have done this tears ago. There should be NO sanctuary. Bush had a mandate to attack the havens of terrorists - America was behind his invasion of Afghanistan. Iraq was not a haven but a neo-con conspiracy and should have never been invaded.

Go into Northern Pakistan and clean the vermin out. If the terrorists strike us from this haven the blame will 100% be on Bush - if you know where they are it is our right to kill them. Pakistan is incapable, unable, and too powerless to assist.

[lars008-2009]

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

[lars008-2009]

it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair's bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770
Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm
thank you demonic-rats%u2026
New Video From Al Qaeda Number Two
"You must be patient and steadfast," he says. "Rejoice, for victory is near, with Allah's permission, and the herds of crusaders have begun to split up and their sole concern has become searching for a way out."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/new-video-from-.html
Sentencing them, Judge Charles Openshaw said the men had engaged in "cyber jihad", encouraging others to kill "kuffars" or non-believers.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070705142313.zr9n5g5g&show_article=1
45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/05/nterror405.xml

[whatithink-2009]

Let's exhaust our military in place that did absolutely nothing to us. That is a great strategy. Must explain why our leaders are such decorated war veterans.

[tnichlsn]

Problem is, al-qaeda was a small but well funded band of lunatics before Iraq, now they're a large band, all over the world, with new recruits signing up for every innocent killed while we're in there securing a democracy that will never work... George, *** and the 'gang' should have large American flags tattooed on their ***** and dropped buck naked in downtown Bagdad.

[oakishpines]

most folk (nearly all folk) hang flowers on their garden walls most of the time (nearly all of the time), however: those that hang multi trillion dollar nuclear and biochemical wonder super arsenals on their garden walls are most guiltless (narly completely guiltless) most of the time (nearly all of the time)

[afmca]

The biggest error I find is equating alQaeda with Islam. The threat from alQaeda and the rest of the Islamic terrorists is small. They can field no true army, they are better at killing woman and children than soldiers, and they cannot claim a country unless they are allowed to. The Pakistani Northern territories could be cleaned out quickly - alQaeda runs and hides - they do not fight. They are a very small pecentage, almost non-existent, of all Muslims. Don't make the bigoted mistake of grouping the terrorists with Islam - they have perverted it.

The question is - for the neo-cons and the Republican party is it better to use the threat of alQaeda to corrupt the Constitution and consolidate power than it is to actually eliminate them? Bush/Cheney's actions speak louder than their political propaganda.

[barbaraf4]

This lunacy has existed for centuries. Bush's sin was to ignore the warnings about tribal loyalties and then to throw gasoline into this fire. He drew a line in the sand and the US will pay the price of having this arrogant, moronic idiot in office. Stupid and stubborn are a dangerous combination.

[cathaleen]

I think we already knew that Pakistan is the gathering place for AlQueda. While we have been putting up with Bush's nightmare of war for the past four years, the terrorists have been able to
regroup.

[panhandlpete]

Where's the oil in Pakistan? Certainly it is not on the northern border. We should give Musharraf another 1.2 billion, as if that would motivate him to go get OBL. He hasn't done it for the last five years so more money isn't going to change his mind. Musharraf will sacrifice a few of his soldiers, but will not give the green light for the leveling of the hills to wipe out the camps.

Now that the polls are down sooo low, out comes the reports on OBL and Al Qaeda and "they're sneaking in here." H#ll, they are walking in on our southern border, and in the future, they will be able to come in planes, after we train them to fly.

OSL is used as the boogie man, even with old tapes. The promises after 9/11 were nothing more than hot air that sounded good. The OIL was what kept the issue focused and left the ammunition depots open for pilfering. Where does all these car bombs keep getting their explosives from?

[saithefreak]

The fact is Taliban, Al-qaeda, Lashkar, Jaish e Mohammed and all terrorist groups were always patonised by the successive PAK generals and ISI chiefs. India has been browbeating the same since decades, but US gave a deaf ear to it( you all know why, because US was busy defeating the Russians with the help of Taliban). Now even when US wants to eliminate it cannot as the group is spread far and wide across the globe. They come in all forms, very dangerous to think of the coming years. Hope some good sense prevails on the US govt, as its they who can hit PAK hard where it hurts.

[saithefreak]

The fact is Taliban, Al-qaeda, Lashkar, Jaish e Mohammed and all terrorist groups were always patonised by the successive PAK generals and ISI chiefs. India has been browbeating the same since decades, but US gave a deaf ear to it( you all know why, because US was busy defeating the Russians with the help of Taliban). Now even when US wants to eliminate it cannot as the group is spread far and wide across the globe. They come in all forms, very dangerous to think of the coming years. Hope some good sense prevails on the US govt, as its they who can hit PAK hard where it hurts.

[tnichlsn]

"stupid and stubborn are a dangerous combination" - that is the truest and most eloquent comment I have read on this site... Thanks Barbara. enough said on all matters concerning this administration.

[swwils]

If they are protecting those cowards,then they must suffer as anyone else who harbor terrorist.That is one true thing I will miss GW for.He never took any *** from any of those radical nut cases.

[omnibus66]

About 3000 people cross the Mexican border into the U.S. EVERY DAY. So much for any terrorist having to "sneak" into the country. They can come any time they want, as many as they want. The only reason that there haven't been more attacks in this country is because they aren't ready yet. Remember it was nine years between the Twin Towers attacks.

Unfortunately, when they do get ready, all of this B.S. that has been put forth about ths "war on terror" will be worthless. Why isn't an all-out man-on-the-moon effort being put forth to secure our borders and ports? Because Bush-supporting big business depends on the cheap, Mexican illegals for slave labor. They aren't interested in real security, only money.

[hungry1968]

From: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.

[briannorwood]

"Pakistan Emerges As Al Qaeda Safe Haven" ...

You're doin' a heckuva job Georgie!

[hungry1968]

From the same press conference:

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

[hungry1968]

It seems as though George of Arabia has decided to walk away from the threat of al Qaeda. In so doing he has abdicated his responsibility to do EVERYTHING he can possibly do to keep us safe. His only goal from the time he took office was to attack Iraq, and remove Saddam Hussein from power - period. He's done absolutely nothing good for this country, and I hope the Christians remember this the next time they push to get a representative of the Religious Right in office.

[neoconrcrazy]

Atta boy bushit -

but you got the wrong country!

Al-Qaeda is in Afghanistan & Pakistan

[bogusbones]

And we continue to send the Pakistani government millions upon millions, half of which probably goes right to the terrorists. Better check the Crawford property, Osama's probably camping in your backyard.

[usayesterday]

Wow!

We invade Iraq, which had no terrorist ties (until after we invaded it), and the countries we don't plan to invade any time soon, if ever, (Pakistan and Saudi Arabia), are the largest supporters/havens for terrorism.

Talk about missing the mark completely (to the tune of 600+ billion dollars).

Can Bush even P.I.S.S in a toilet without getting it all over the floor?

Sheesh!

[drummer94]

Didn't loony-toon tell us that Musharraf is an "important" partner on the war on terror? Maybe he meant "impotent". You know how George has a way with words.

[zoltaric]

Simple solution. You surround these Islamic dogs. Go in guns ablazing. Kill every man woman and child in the region and leve. Let the Pakistanis and rest of the world *** about it. Who cares. Deny we were even there.

[clestes-2009]

Bush is totally helpless when it comes to foreign policy. He always picks the person who is the weakest and they are always in disfavor with the population.

He spreads disaster and terrorism everywhere he goes. He is worse than Typhoid Mary.

[condumism]

The REASONS al-Qaeda exists: Here is a list of the Republican Senators up for Reelection in 08. Ask them how much Israel influences their vote on Iraq? These sell out America for Israel traitors are listed below:

Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Dominici, Pete- (R - NM)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

[usayesterday]

Didn't loony-toon tell us that Musharraf is an "important" partner on the war on terror? Maybe he meant "impotent". You know how George has a way with words.
Posted by drummer94 at 10:02 AM : Jul 17, 2007
...............


LOL!!!

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me! George W. would easily get those two words confused.

(We all know he's the impotent one for our country)

guyfrompa45

As long as the information provided is fact checked to be correct, then I don't see an issue.

I think the main issue with Iraq was that the gov't created false information, and used questionable leads to justify invading the country.

I was one of the maybe 15% who thought that the Iraq war was just going to handcuff us globally, however all the DEM politicians were worried about being called unpatriotic, and they had to join that BUSH created bandwagon of "with us or against us."

Bush will go down as one of the single stupidest presidents in history, as he didn't even realize what would happen (when most historians could have wrote you a road map.)

We are stuck in Iraq for at least another 5 years. If we cut and run now, the country will be worse than before. We will really have created a safe haven for terrorists to plan and attack the USA. Bush put us there, and we can't bail now (we would never regain credibility.)

It's funny in a cruel sadistic sort of way. We caused global terrorism to increase because of our inept, under-researched invasion. I hope that our representatives and BUSH are proud of their irresponsible actions.

[wolf563]

When all this started Al-Qaeda was spread out and in small numbers accross the middle east .When the U.S. moved into Iraq , Al-Qaeda moved thier home office to the PAK /AFG boarders . The U.S. has to finnish what it started in Iraq but the Iraqies are all blonde and very hard to train for the most simple of tasks . Pakistan and afghanistan need to open a small part of each countries joint boarder and allow the U.S. to bomb the area while PAK & AFG control the ground .

[fastfredy1]

I do not see why we just don't pull our troops back and then tell the Packies to put on some sunscreen and Nuke the Kyber pass area back to the stoneage. Screw the rest of the world let them clean it up.

[sunderan]

Why do we give money to a government, that has not done much in the last year? Musharraff could have given us(US)Bin Laden's head on a platter! Now it seems that Musharaff's head is going to be on a platter, given to us by Osama B L.
It has been the history of the US to hand out money in aid without getting any results. Our policy should be: RESULTS FIRST; THEN MONEY (AID).

[condumism]

Below are the REAL REASONS that al-Qaeda exists: These ISRAEL FIRST Republican Senators are all up for Reelection in 08. Ask them how much Israel influences their vote on Iraq? Also, ask them how much US DEFENSE CONTRACTORS influence their votes in needless defense spending. These sell out America for Israel traitors and sell out America for the US MILILTARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX are listed below:

Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Dominici, Pete- (R - NM)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

[prinzowhales]

I would think, with all of this talk of "training camps" and the like, we would have some nice satellite photos of them and at least a few of their brochures for those kiddies who are tired of the mundane summer camps in the Catskills.

What we have is another yuk-yuk telling us al Qaeda is lurking in the mountains of Pakistan...rather like Rumsfeld telling us that the WMDs are 'east, west, north and south of Baghdad.'

[grazinggoat]

Wow!
We invade Iraq, which had no terrorist ties (until after we invaded it), and the countries we don't plan to invade any time soon, if ever, (Pakistan and Saudi Arabia), are the largest supporters/havens for terrorism.
Talk about missing the mark completely (to the tune of 600+ billion dollars).
Can Bush even P.I.S.S in a toilet without getting it all over the floor?
Sheesh!
Posted by USAyesterday at 09:55 AM : Jul 17, 2007

-USAyesterday, why no one has initiated a dialogue. That is what we need -a dialogue- not a plane filled with bombs, troops throw on them and kill their kids and destroy their schools... The extremist attitudes of Rotting Right Wingers Republicans and their masters in fact the AIPAC, PNAC etc, combined with the ignorance and arrogance of those undiplomatic hibrus Islamic extremists, always lead to unfotunate loss of life as side casualties and more skepticism, not to say, hatred toward western societies and beliefs.

[samrensho]

Nice one George. You've guaranteed long lived, expensive contracts for all of your major contributors. Hawks are a shoe-in in 2008. Bring 'em on Bubba.

[bobnjersey]

[It also paints a worrisome picture of increased training at camps along the Pakistan Afghanistan border ... ]

did they move those 'monkey bars' to setup the pakistan training camp ... or did they already have a set?

[tuckerndfw]

did they move those 'monkey bars' to setup the pakistan training camp ... or did they already have a set?

Posted by bobnjersey at 12:01 PM : Jul 17, 2007

*ROFL*

Thanks for the laugh.

"Al qaida training camps" sounds much more sinister than "a bunch of guys meeting in a shack."

[tuckerndfw]

Musharraf is not a "US ally."

George Bush handed him a $10 billion check so he would publicly renounce support for the Taliban. Pakistan actively supported the Taliban and "al qaida" (whatever that's supposed to be) before he got the money, and, it still does.

The majority of Pakistanis have far more in common with the Taliban and "al qaida" (whatever that's supposed to be) than they do with George Bush or ExxonMobil.

Hard to "bomb people back into the stone age" who are already living in the stone age.

The "war on terror" as being conducted by the Bush administration is accomplishing nothing other than enriching Bush and his war mongering-profiteering cronies.

[BlueInWI]

Could the mainstream media ask why our pseudo-Christian 'decider' agreed to sell Pakistan F-16s on Good Friday of 2005 if not to prevent these kind of problems?...

Or ask why we should remain in Iraq if it isn't keeping the terror threats 'over there' as advertised?...

Or a million other questions about important issues rather than how much $ each candidate has raised, or how much they pay for their haircuts...

[lars008-2009]

Stupid and stubborn are a dangerous combination.
Posted by barbaraf4 at 09:03 AM : Jul 17, 2007

yep... leftists lead The Chorus of Useful Idiots

Leftist Support of Islamist Terror
Most shocking is the outright sympathy of many leftist-liberals for Islamic fascism. They said little about the murder of 500 Russian civilians, many of them children, but screamed week after week because some Arab savage at Abu Ghraib prison wore a bag on his head. They cared nothing about the beheadings committed by the Islamo-savages or the execution of 12 Nepalese. David Horowitz gives an excellent discussion of who this "Left" really is. He calls them neo-communist, I call them Leftist-Liberals. I'm a classical Liberal myself and I feel it's time to remove this irrational element that has been allowed to poison our good name.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/list.htm
The Chorus of Useful Idiots
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/thornton.htm
Supporters of Muslim Terrorism on the un-Religious Left
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/index1.htm
Exposing Leftists' Radical Islam Connection
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/left_islam.htm
Definitions, Lies, and Losing Your Head
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/def_lies.htm
Shocking (Liberal) Silence
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/leftist_silence.htm
See no evil: Why the Left is blind to suffering
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/no_evil.htm

[opinionrules]

did they move those 'monkey bars' to setup the pakistan training camp ... or did they already have a set?

Posted by bobnjersey at 12:01 PM : Jul 17, 2007


If I see one more clip of that monkey bar training exercise, I am going to explode.

[lars008-2009]

That is what we need -a dialogue-
Posted by grazinggoat at 11:43 AM : Jul 17, 2007

hahahahahaha

From May of 1801 to June 10, 1805, sailors and Marines of the young American nation fought battles immortalized in a line of the Marine Hymn: %u201Cto the shores of Tripoli.%u201D As American forces approached Tripoli on land threatening to capture it, Karamanli suddenly became interested in negotiations. The war ended with a treaty exchanging prisoners, Americans giving Karamanli another $60,000 in ransom and an agreement from the Muslims to cease attacks on U.S. ships.
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[lars008-2009]

That is what we need -a dialogue-
Posted by grazinggoat at 11:43 AM : Jul 17, 2007

hahahahahaha

But for a Muslim to keep his word to an infidel at the expense of opportunities to expand Islamic power is the Islamic equivalent of a mortal sin. In 1807, Muslim pirate attacks on American ships began anew. As a result Americans led by President James Madison fought Algerians in the Second Barbary War in 1815, leading to another treaty under which the Muslims paid American $10,000 for damages. The Algerian ruler almost immediately repudiated the new treaty after the U.S. departure and again began piracy and the enslavement of captured Christian sailors necessitating an 1816 Anglo-Dutch shelling of Algiers and ultimately the colonization of Algeria in 1830 and Tunisia in 1881 by France and Libya in 1911 by Italy. By then most of the Islamic world was under Christian domination. With the Ottoman Empire defeated in WW1, secularist Turkish rebels in 1923 overthrew the last Islamic Caliphate, destroying the pinnacle of Islamist power and ending a line of succession allegedly reaching back to Mohammed.
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[bluestardad]

THE IRAQI DISTRACTION LED TO THIS BOMBING! HAD AMERICA CLEANED OUT THIS NEST OF TERRORIST INSTEAD OF GOING TO IRAQ FOR SOME WAR OF LIES, THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE ALIVE NOW!

[oakishpines]

supervan taught her troops courtesy and efficiency, but supervan had a side jo b ... at any rate, once supervans students turned to say: hey, you: supervan worried little ... she had taught her stuedents well and there is nothing like an arrest by the best ... some small child what had caught her turned to present her with a imaginary gold star, a congressional medal of honor, for the spanking: an action far above and beyond the call of duty

[navyretired2]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the U.S. hasn't been allowed to engage the known terrorist camps in Pakistan (our "ally") and in Syria (not that I'd expect them to). That's fact right? Those governments wouldn't give us the authority?

I wonder what the Pakistani President's going to do about this bombing in the capitol. I'm sure our guys would LOVE the chance to take them out, considering we've had intel on their activities for years but been handcuffed. But does Mushareff (sp) have the guts?