GOP Senators: Change Course On Iraq Now

Several Republicans Say They Don’t Want To Wait Until September

(CBS/AP)  Several Republican senators told President Bush's top national security aide privately Wednesday that they did not want Mr. Bush to wait until September to change course in Iraq.

The meeting that lawmakers had with national security adviser Stephen Hadley came as GOP Sens. Olympia Snowe and Chuck Hagel announced they would back Democratic legislation ordering combat to end next spring.

CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports exclusively that a U.S. pullout would be extremely complicated, dangerous and would take two years if the military takes all its equipment out, according to a study recently presented to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Republican support for the war has steadily eroded in recent weeks as the White House prepared an interim progress report that found that the U.S.-backed government in Baghdad has made little progress in meeting major targets of reform.

Of the GOP lawmakers who say the U.S. should reduce its military role in Iraq, nearly all are up for re-election in 2008.

"I'm hopeful they (the White House) change their minds," said Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M.

Domenici and at least five other Republicans support a bill by Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo., that would adopt as U.S. policy the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group Report.

The bipartisan panel, led by Republican James A. Baker III and Democrat Lee Hamilton, said the U.S. should hand off the combat mission to the Iraqis, bolster diplomatic efforts in the region and pave the way for a drawdown of troops by spring 2008.

Domenici, who is expected to face voters next year, said he and other co-sponsors told Hadley the president shouldn't wait until September to adopt the bipartisan policy.

"The only difference of opinion at the moment is the president wants to deal with the Baker-Hamilton recommendations in September," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., one of the first GOP co-sponsors.

"I think he should do that today because it develops a long-term strategy for what happens in the surge," added Alexander, who also is up for re-election. "It would put him and Congress on the same path, which is what we definitely need."

Members said Hadley did not indicate the White House would switch gears. Mr. Bush this week said he will not reconsider the military strategy in Iraq until Gen. David Petraeus, the U.S. military commander there, delivers his progress report in September.

"He was not in a position to do anything other than say 'I hear you,'" Domenici said of Hadley.

Other Republicans at the meeting did not call for immediate change, but offered tepid support for the current policy.

Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota said he was seriously considering Salazar's legislation and remained gravely concerned about the lack of progress in Iraq.

"I'm still in the same place, and I don't think there were any hearts or minds changed in there," Coleman said upon leaving the meeting.

Sen. John Warner, R-Va., who also attended the meeting, is expected to call for a change in Iraq policy after Mr. Bush releases on Thursday that interim report on Baghdad's political progress.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a staunch supporter of Mr. Bush's Iraq policies, said he and many others would stick behind the president. But "obviously everyone was concerned, and we're trying to figure out what the answer is," he said.

GOP support has become crucial as the Senate opened debate on a $649 billion defense policy bill.

Meanwhile, CBS News correspondent Bob Fuss reports seven Senate Republicans broke with the president Wednesday and voted with Democrats to consider an amendment by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., to require that troops returning from Iraq get more rest and training before being sent back.

But with Republican leaders using a filibuster to block any Iraq amendments, it would have taken 60 votes to move forward and they fell four votes short, 56-41.

The Senate is expected to vote next week on an amendment by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., that would order troop withdrawals to begin in 120 days and end all combat on April 30, 2008. The House plans to take up a similar measure on Thursday.

Levin's amendment is not expected to survive and Mr. Bush has vowed to veto it if it does. But in a signal of growing unease with the war, it has picked up at least one new vote from Snowe of Maine.

Snowe initially opposed setting a firm deadline, contending it would not make any sense to broadcast war plans to the enemy. But the senator, who is up for re-election next year, said she decided to switch her position because the situation has grown too dire.

"Frankly, given the fact that the Iraqi government isn't prepared to change its own political direction, we should be prepared to change course with respect to our strategy," Snowe told reporters Tuesday.

Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith, R-Ore., also signed on as co-sponsors of the bill; both voted for a similar measure earlier this year.

Hadley's visit to Capitol Hill came as the White House finalized a 23-page progress report on Iraq that concludes the government in Baghdad has made little progress in meeting reform goals laid down by Mr. Bush and Congress.

The administration is likely to argue that some progress has been made in reducing the level of sectarian violence and militia control. Iraq also has established several, but not all, of the needed joint neighborhood security stations in Baghdad and has increased the number of capable Iraqi security units.

But the report also is expected to concede that several major goals have not been met, including agreement on new Iraqi laws to allocate oil and gas resources and revenue and to address amnesty for former Baath Party members. White House spokesman Tony Fratto said the report will indicate whether there has been "progress at a satisfactory rate, or unsatisfactory rate, and in some cases, maybe mixed results on some of those benchmarks."

[tuckerndfw]

Why are US forces being used as policemen in Iraq?

Regardless whether they stay or leave, they should not be "patrolling" the streets of Baghdad, or anywhere else.

Soldiers are not policemen and using them as such is a gross misuse of their services. It does not take five years to "train" policemen.

Obviously, Iraqis intend to sit on their lazy azzes and let brave young Americans do their dying for them.

Enough is enough. Regardless whether they stay or go, they should not leave their fortified compounds unless they are directly attacked. And, then only to dispel the attackers.

George Bush is the worst president in US history and his "generals" are as incompetent as he.

[seven-pesos]

bush lied...

hundreds of thousands died.

will america hold bush responsible?

i mean, will bush hang on the gallows?

will bush be tortured before he is hung?

will bush be allowed to escape to the south where he will be given political asylum?

only gawd knows.

ha,ha,ha.

war, hate, arrogance, republican christian snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[forthepeopl1]

I HOPE EVERY AMERICAN AND ALL OUR ELECTED ARE GOING TO READ THIS, AND SEE THAT THIS ADMINASTRATION JUST KEEPS LAUGHING IN OUR FACES.WHILE THOUSANDS OF OUR TROOPS STILL DIE.
Last December, when Bush rebuffed a bipartisan exit strategy presented by the Iraq Study Group, he said he would leave the decision to withdraw from Iraq to his successor.

That question is "not going to face this government," Bush said, chuckling slightly at a news conference with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "because we made up our mind. We've made that part clear. It'll face future governments. There will be future opportunities for people to say, 'Well, it's not worth it. Let's just retreat.' "

Since then, nearly 700 more American soldiers have died in a war that has now lasted more than four years, lost the lives of more than 3,600 U.S. troops, cost $10 billion a month -- and cost Republicans control of the House and Senate.

anyone that sides with this should be held for the murders of all troops

[pepperp1]

This President is clearly unfit to command his mental health is seriously flawed. Not sure what the Constitution allows but a competency hearing should be scheduled immediately our soldiers are dying at a rate of 3 a day and just this weekend 250 innocent Iraqi were low not bits.

[prinzowhales]

Senator Dole should go back to Kansas and do the bidding of Dwayne Andrus there. After years of failure in a war based on lies this weasel-creature breaks out the pom-poms for the troops and blames the Neo-con's wretched Quisling regime in Baghdad for not being able to maintain the order necessary for Anglo-American financiers to pillage Iraq.

I'm surprised that she had the character to vote against the Bush amnesty bill. It would be wonderful if she would renounce the evil Neo-Con scum in the Bush Administration, really stand up for the troops, and demand that they come home, NOW!

[tuckerndfw]

This President is clearly unfit to command his mental health is seriously flawed. Not sure what the Constitution allows but a competency hearing should be scheduled immediately our soldiers are dying at a rate of 3 a day and just this weekend 250 innocent Iraqi were low not bits.

Posted by pepperp1 at 12:24 PM : Jul 11, 2007

Congress may not have grounds to impeach (yet), but they most certainly have the authority to stop passing legislation and cut off funding for this insanity.

Democrats whining about "not having enough votes" is pure nonsense. All they have to do is stand up and announce that until there is a change in policy in Iraq, they will enact no further legislation.

Until that mess is resolved, Congress should come to an absolute halt. Let the "American people" suffer if they want to continue inflicting death and destruction on our soldiers.

Enough is enough. There should be NO US soldiers on the streets of Baghdad or anywhere else.

If Bush wants to "patrol" the streets of Baghdad, let him, the GOP and their "generals" do it. And, let them take their supporters with him.

George Bush is the worst president in US history, without exception.

[seven-pesos]

" mission accomplished! "

" they'll throw roses at us. "

" bring 'em on! "

ha,ha,ha.

those simple minded southerners love that kinda talk, boy!

those republicans know exactly how to control the south.

a little flag waving here, a little bible thumping there...

those southern creeps are ready to do whatever the republican party tells them do.

ha,ha,ha.

simple minds, christian creeps, belligerent mentality, superstitious, fearful...

that's the s bush loving south for you, folks!

[secundus2]

The same comments re-posted every day do not make the comments less bizarre. Surely you realize that there is no basis at all for questioning the president's sanity or for urging that he and others be hanged. If any legal grounds at all for these actions existed, someone with legal standing would have brought court actions long before now.

Normal political processes (elections, budget allocations, etc.)will end the war. The real danger now seems to be that the war will end without the proper degree of caution, just because people are tired of it (as McCain says).
The same 75% of people who wanted the war w/o considering the consequences in the first place now want withdrawal w/o considering the consequences. No wonder our founding fathers feared direct popular rule.

[jw28625]

This president is a disaster. He certainly has got to be the worst president ever. Worse than Nixon and you know that's a tall order. But this man isn't in touch with reality. He listens to political hacks like Rove, Rumsfield, Cheney, etc. When a general speaks his mind and tells him something he doesn't want to hear he fires them and replaces them with someone else. He won't listen to reason. He thinks he and he alone is the only one who decides what should be done. He's shortsighted and underpowered in his thinking. Congress has got to stop this madness and find some way of limiting Mr. Bush or getting rid of him altogether. It's a sad day for America. It's a sad day for the whole free world. May God have mercy on us.

[bareemperor]

White House lobbying GOP is just a joke...

More like Bu$h to invade Iran or do another 9/11 to grab higher poll points about now...

[liberalme]

The devil himself is digging his evil way to hell!

In his mind, he is playing with toy soldiers, he is totally out of touch with reality and needs to be in a padded room as soon as possible.

Cheney, on the other hand, needs to be in the white jacket, locked up with space under the door to pass his food through.

These two nut case terrorists are a danger to our country and the world and need to be impeached now!!

[terrapin78]

I wonder what threats will be leveled at these Repug Senators to keep them in line (or get them back in line).

[realpatriot1]

Prinzowhales,

Most of the voters here in North Carolina would love to send Liddy Dole back to Kansas.

The polls here show that she's pretty much toast, except none of the high profile Dems want to run for the seat. She has no money and she's alienated the public on a variety of issues, but the potential opponents are running for Governor or staying put where they are.

Whoever has the gonads to run against her will win. Even though she doesn't have an opponent she's running scared.

[liberalme]

Secundus,

Sorry, we aren't questioning the presidents sanity--we're complaining about the lack of it.
We have already suffered the consequence of this war for way to long--and unless you have a family member thats been there, already there or going there you have no idea what suffering and consequence is.

[donnie900]

"Our commitment in Iraq is not indefinite, nor should the Iraqi government perceive it to be. It is my firm hope and belief that we can start bringing our troops home in 2008."

For an umpteen number of years your family legacy has been the death and destruction of that country. I'm sorry to say, Mr. Bush, that for the sake of my country you have to go.

Its not about you, fella.. no more.

[pepperp1]

Whooh big balls, Ambassador Wilson just -brought it on- little Georgie, and called out this Administrations treasonous behavior against our National security. The Repug Representatives did the usual, it is Clinton fault whah whah, we are above the law, and Scooter is a saint blah, blah, blah%u2026..

[donnie900]

You people aren't Christians, nor patriots. But liars and cheats.. and profiteers. And this is my country! Not yer's.

[clestes-2009]

These reps are only cutting ties to Bush because they are up for re-election next year. But, for whaterever reason, the plain is, they are breaking from Bush.

That means that the number of Senators supporting Bush is dropping and the magic number of 60 votes to over ride a veto is closer and closer.

Bush has never been shy of twisting arms to get his way. Of course he is going to plead, beg or threaten to make these wayward republicans come back to him.

But, with elections getting closer and more and more Americans saying "Bring them home" his efforts will hardly succeed. He may be able to talk some of them into waiting until Sept 15, but even that is iffy.

The *** Iraqi parliment is taking MONTH OF AUGUST VACATION, like they have been doing enough work to deserve a vacation.

This is enough!!! If the Iraqi parliment wants vacation instead of working, why are we still there, getting our men killed????????

[donnie900]

We'll win in Iraq alright.. don't you worry about it. We'll win by giving back those people's country. By giving them their country back, while take our's. And send you and your cronies to the Hague.

Best move to Paraguay before yer term is up.

[missingamerica]

I abhor the concept of determining our military personnel's careers based on whether they say things which this Administration likes - which this Administration has shown will make them promotable - or on whether they say things this Administration doesn't like - which this Administration has shown will cause them to be either eased or forced out.

As a result, I despise this President's decision to place our military in the position being held accountable for the public's perception of our progress in Iraq.

If things are going badly, they can lie and remain promotable but must in turn accept the personal moral responsibility for unnecessary casualties, or they can tell the truth and kiss their careers good-bye.

You know in your heart that if things were going well the President would have siezed all credit possible and a sentence such as "They expect for military people to come back and tell us how the military operations are going" would never have graced his Highness's lips.

[ne_patriot7]

If any legal grounds at all for these actions existed, someone with legal standing would have brought court actions long before now.

Posted by secundus2 at 12:47 PM : Jul 11, 2007

I have no doubt in my mind at all that such legal grounds do exist, the evidence is there, however, the evidence is locked in Presidential secrecy until the statute of time runs out on declassifying this administration's paper trail.
You can bet when that time runs out, there will be scores of lawyers and prosecutors going over Bush's presidential library files... unfortunately, many of the real witnesses that could testify will be dead by then and this son-ofa-b#tch will never be held accountable..

May he rot in hell for a thousand years.

[donnie900]

"We'll win in Iraq alright.. don't you worry about it. We'll win by giving back those people's country. By giving them their country back, while take our's. And send you and your cronies to the Hague."

We'll win in Iraq alright.. don't you worry about it. We'll win by giving back those people's country. By giving them their country back, while *we* take *back* ours. And send you and your cronies to the Hague. *For crimes against humanity*(sic).

[tejasdemo]

The devil himself is digging his evil way to hell!

In his mind, he is playing with toy soldiers, he is totally out of touch with reality and needs to be in a padded room as soon as possible.

Cheney, on the other hand, needs to be in the white jacket, locked up with space under the door to pass his food through.

These two nut case terrorists are a danger to our country and the world and need to be impeached now!!
Posted by liberalme at 12:51 PM : Jul 11, 2007


I agree !

[donnie900]

I charge you, Mr. Bush, with genocide.

You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can and will be held accountable to you in a court of law.

You have the right to an attorney.
If you can't afford one, one will be appointed to you.

Do you understand these rights I have given you?

[seven-pesos]

never a war the south couldn't lose.

jefferson davis lost his,
johnson lost his
bush will lose his.

the south has lost every war they started.

idiot southern creeps are only good for sunday afternoon parades

in their tight-butt uniforms.

ha,ha,ha.

war, division, arrogance, phony christian creeps, crooked republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[tuckerndfw]

Bush has never been shy of twisting arms to get his way. Of course he is going to plead, beg or threaten to make these wayward republicans come back to him.

Posted by clestes at 01:02 PM : Jul 11, 2007

"Threaten" is the most likely option.

Those illegal wiretaps were not used to spy on "terrorists," they were used to spy on Bush administration opponents, including members of his own party.

And that is why the Bush administration is claiming "executive privilege" when it comes to answering questions about that program.

The only "national security" issue that was involved was the Bush administration attempting to hang onto their control of "national security" so they could continue lining their pockets.

George Bush is a criminal as is nearly everyone in his administration, including his vice president and attorney general.

[forthepeopl1]

I HOPE EVERY AMERICAN AND ALL OUR ELECTED ARE GOING TO READ THIS, AND SEE THAT THIS ADMINASTRATION JUST KEEPS LAUGHING IN OUR FACES.WHILE THOUSANDS OF OUR TROOPS STILL DIE.
Last December, when Bush rebuffed a bipartisan exit strategy presented by the Iraq Study Group, he said he would leave the decision to withdraw from Iraq to his successor.

That question is "not going to face this government," Bush said, chuckling slightly at a news conference with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "because we made up our mind. We've made that part clear. It'll face future governments. There will be future opportunities for people to say, 'Well, it's not worth it. Let's just retreat.' "

Since then, nearly 700 more American soldiers have died in a war that has now lasted more than four years, lost the lives of more than 3,600 U.S. troops, cost $10 billion a month -- and cost Republicans control of the House and Senate.

[pepperp1]

5 years, 3 soldier being killed daily, 10 BILLION dollars a month for Iraq, thousand of dead men, women and children innocent Iraqis, Bush is unfit to be Commander in Chief his incompetence has been demonstrated and his grip on reality questionable from his statements in Cleveland yesterday, his fitness for office needs to be tested under the law. In the while Congress needs to act a find away to extract us for this policy blunder of the Presidents and protect our troops from this delusional behavior and beliefs that god is speaking to him, you can delay until 09 our soldiers need an honorable mission and their lives are at risk%u2026..

[seven-pesos]

idiot snake, bush, should be fighting for peace in this world.

instead, he's the one making all the trouble.

bush has that arrogant, southern attitude towards life.

only force will suffice.

no diplomacy, no negotiation, no compromise, no tolerance...

that's why bush, like those other 2 dixie losers jefferson davis and johnson, will lose his war in iraq.

bush loving slave state south...bad for america!

nothing good comes out of the south!

[menofoz]

There are four types of volcanoes: active, intermittent, dormant, and extinct. Volcanoes can occur on land in the water or in Goverment.

What happens when a volcano erupts?

When the volcano erupts, lava, ash, cinders, dust, and hot gas can pour out ... and explanations of what causes volcanoes and what happens when they erupt.

The Bush administration is under intense pressure to tell the truth, the volcanoes about to blow.

[dvsden]

Republicans Show again how much they support the troops by killing the Webb Amendment with a filibuster (the same tactics they wanted to do away with two years ago).
From the Huffington Post.

Just moments ago, Senate Republicans succeeded in a filibuster in which they refused to end debate on Virginia Democrat Jim Webb's S. 2012, which would have placed strict limits on National Guard and reserve deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan as well as mandating more downtime at home before active-duty combat troops are returned to battle.

The vote was 56-41 to end debate, with 60 votes needed to move to a full, up-or-down vote on the Webb measure. Once again, the GOP has been successful at destroying another Democratic attempt at helping service members and their families caught in the buzzsaw of the Bush administration's lies and incompetence.

Typical Repug Chickenhawks, showing how much they REALLY care for America's military families

[roger_inkart]

Latest headline:

"WHITE HOUSE LOBBIES REALITY SUPPORT ON IRAQ"

(AP) The Bush administration, fighting fearsome resistence to it's plan for Iraq, lobbied reality today in order to shore up eroding support from democrats and members of his own party.

Tony Snow said during a press conference: "Yes, the surge isn't working, and no, the Iraq government hasn't met any of the benchmarks laid out for it. Sectarian violence continues and US troops are dying daily. But we are pressing reality to change it's position on these issues to bring these facts more in line with the administration's pre-determined conclusions. In short, we are asking reality for more time and to try to alter it's very nature so we can succeed in Iraq.

Reality was unavailable for comment.

[SIDNEYWILLIAMSMD]

Interesting we have hundreds of congressmen who fantasy themselves to be generals. Perhaps they should follow the example of Congressman Davy Crockett, who volunteers and actually got a taste of what it means to stand up for liberty..a lot harder than fighting bears or chasing Washington madams.

[tomar0317]

I'm real tired of the elected officials not doing what we the people have demanded. Not only are they failing in closing the war, they are failing us with oil gouging. Their priorities are really screwed up. It's time to fire all of them and take away their benefits like salary and medical.
The time has come to take our country back!

[forthepeopl1]

I HOPE EVERY AMERICAN AND ALL OUR ELECTED ARE GOING TO READ THIS, AND SEE THAT THIS ADMINASTRATION JUST KEEPS LAUGHING IN OUR FACES.WHILE THOUSANDS OF OUR TROOPS STILL DIE.
Last December, when Bush rebuffed a bipartisan exit strategy presented by the Iraq Study Group, he said he would leave the decision to withdraw from Iraq to his successor.

That question is "not going to face this government," Bush said, chuckling slightly at a news conference with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "because we made up our mind. We've made that part clear. It'll face future governments. There will be future opportunities for people to say, 'Well, it's not worth it. Let's just retreat.' "

Since then, nearly 700 more American soldiers have died in a war that has now lasted more than four years, lost the lives of more than 3,600 U.S. troops, cost $10 billion a month -- and cost Republicans control of the House and Senate.

time for a revolution

[oleander8]

This sudden flip-flopping of republican politicians tells me one thing - there's an election coming up.

[drummer94]

KER-SPLASH! Another one jumps.

[formrusmcsgt]

This sudden flip-flopping of republican politicians tells me one thing - there's an election coming up.

Posted by oleander8 at 01:39 PM : Jul 11, 2007

You can bet your bottom dollar that this near-daily jumping ship by one Repub or another is about self-preservation or self-advancement.

Nothing has changed since these idiots were applauding Bush's stupidity in Iraq except that America is now fed up and looking for scalps.

[macusweil]

"And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around. So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone, dragged down by the stone." The Pink Floyd ~ dogs

[seven-pesos]

the south has a long and sordid history of war, hate, slavery, arrogance, belligerence, insurrection, lynching, death and destruction...

bush is just the latest snake to come out of that dark, malicious region of america.

the south never does good for america.

always war, hate, ignorance, death, bigotry, extremism, arrogance, evil christians and republican snakes.

america would be much better off if we could be rid of those southern states.

i say: " let the mexicans have them! "

free of charge!

ha,ha,ha.

war, hate, arrogance, phony dixie christians...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[menofoz]

Friday, May 2, 2003 Posted: 7:47 AM EDT (1147 GMT)

ABOARD USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CNN) -- President Bush made a landing aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln Thursday, arriving in the co-pilot's seat of a Navy S-3B Viking after making two fly-bys of the carrier.

Moments after the landing, the president, wearing a green flight suit and holding a white helmet, got off the plane, saluted those on the flight deck and shook hands with them. Above him, the tower was adorned with a big sign that read, "Mission Accomplished."


CNN.com - Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says - May 31, 2005The insurgency in Iraq is "in the last throes," Vice President *** Cheney says, and he predicts that the fighting will end before the Bush administration ...

Thursday, June 15, 2006; Page A23
President Bush said yesterday that the United States is making steady progress in Iraq toward its goal of standing up a government that can sustain and protect the country

CNN.com - Bush calls end to 'major combat' - May. 2, 2003... televised address that major combat operations in Iraq have ended

Jan 18, 2007 10:22 pm US/Central
Retired Generals Slam Bush's Iraq Plan
(CBS News) WASHINGTON The President's troop build-up -- already taking political fire from both Democrats and Republicans -- came under withering attack on Thursday from a panel of retired generals on Capitol Hill, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

[drummer94]

Do ya get the feeling they are all looking for the last chair for when the music stops?

[seven-pesos]

the south is already plotting their next war...

the bush loving south sees that they've accomplished their mission in iraq.

now, they're gathering all their right wing republicans and christian creeps in south carolina...

to plot the next humilliating failure for america.

leave it to those southern creeps to do their worst to america.

war, hate, arrogance, reborns and rednecks...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[roger_inkart]

Remember the days when it wasn't wall-to-wall talk of Iraq?

GOD how sick we all are of this! There's a new report out saying the war in Iraq hasn't harmed Al-Qaeda at all. So, as if this wasn't awful enough it's been for no good reason. Or worse, the nation's detriment!

The US has a major headache going away, and it's got GW Bush and the GOP written all over it. Next year's elections can't come soon enough. The people will vote those into power who will pledge to end this abomination!

[juliemd]

Stubborn ole fool Bush...he'll find his humility in H E double L!!

[seven-pesos]

the republican party loves the south...

a little flag waving here, a little bible thumping there,

those ignorant southerners fall right in line, boy!

i mean, those southerners got gawd on their side.

now how can you beat that?

war, hate, christian creeps, republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[drummer94]

RE: Remember the days.... Don't fret bud. The day is coming when this misadministration will be paying the piper. Seems like loony-toon and presi,er, vice prez Cheney think they are above the law. For now. Since it appears the shrub isn't going to walk away, although he should, when they are gone, we need to find a way to take the money from them that they stole from us. The best way to hurt rich folks is to turn them into poor ones. Then we can give that dough to every dead and hurt warriors families with our sincere apologies for not acting soon enough.

[menofoz]

Unforgiven 1992

Will Munny: Who's the fellow owns this ********?
[pause]
Will Munny: You, fat man. Speak up.
Skinny Dubois: Uh, I... I own this establishment. I bought the place from Greeley for a thousand dollars.
[Will levels the shotgun, and speaks to someone standing behind Skinny]
Will Munny: You better clear outta there.
Man: Yes, sir.
[scampers out of the way]
Little Bill Daggett: Just hold it right there. Hold it...!
[Will shoots Skinny. Screaming, the women scatter upstairs]
Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a ***! You just shot an unarmed man!
Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend.

[seven-pesos]

the south now beats wisconsin as cheese capitol of america.

they're harvesting all that cheese from those fat azzed dixie women.

grab yourself one of those obese southern mamas,

lift up that fat ol' tittie and scrape yourself a handful of that dixie cheese.

hmmmm...foul, but aromatic.

don't forget the saltines!

ha,ha,ha.

war, hate, arrogance, ignorance, phony christian creeps, crooked republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[pepperp1]

Republican obstructionist, do not forget these votes American People, votes against our countries interest and our troops, 3 soldiers a day dying for the arrogant egos of these failed politicians, so they do not have to admit they are incompetent cowards who unethically have been bought and paid for puppets of the Neo Conservative tiny minority running this country. 10 Billion dollars a month for Iraq, 100 plus dead soldiers each month, and a questionably mentally delusional unfit Commander in Chief. Disgusting cowards, pulling in their big salary millionaires all, taking their summer leaves, receiving great life time benefits, sitting in their air condition office while our soldiers sweat and die in Iraq without enough rest and some is called up 5 times. Keep trying Congress our soldiers need to be treated with respect and diginity.