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Pope: Only One "True" Church

(AP)  Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.

Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith which restates church teaching on relations with other Christians. It was the second time in a week that the pope has corrected what he says are erroneous interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-65 meetings that modernized the church.

In the document — formulated as five questions and answers — the Vatican seeks to set the record straight on Vatican II's ecumenical intent, saying some contemporary theological interpretation had been "erroneous or ambiguous" and had prompted confusion and doubt.

It restates key sections of a 2000 document the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, "Dominus Iesus," which set off a firestorm of criticism among Protestant and other Christian denominations because it said they were not true churches but merely ecclesial communities and therefore did not have the "means of salvation."

In the new document and an accompanying commentary — which were released as the pope vacations here in Italy's Dolomite mountains — the Vatican repeated that position.

"Christ 'established here on earth' only one Church," the document said. The other communities "cannot be called 'churches' in the proper sense" because they do not have apostolic succession — the ability to trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles.

The Rev. Sara MacVane of the Anglican Centre in Rome, said there was nothing new in the new document.

"I don't know what motivated it at this time," she said. "But it's important always to point out that there's the official position and there's the huge amount of friendship and fellowship and worshipping together that goes on at all levels, certainly between Anglican and Catholics and all the other groups and Catholics."

The document said Orthodox churches were indeed "churches" because they have apostolic succession and that they enjoyed "many elements of sanctification and of truth." But it said they lack something because they do not recognize the primacy of the pope — a defect, or a "wound" that harmed them, it said.

"This is obviously not compatible with the doctrine of Primacy which, according to the Catholic faith, is an 'internal constitutive principle' of the very existence of a particular Church," the commentary said.

Despite the harsh tone of the document, it stresses that Benedict remains committed to ecumenical dialogue.

"However, if such dialogue is to be truly constructive it must involve not just the mutual openness of the participants but also fidelity to the identity of the Catholic faith," the commentary said.

The document, signed by the congregation prefect, American Cardinal William Levada, was approved by Benedict on June 29, the feast of Sts. Peter and Paul — a major ecumenical feast day.

There was no indication about why the pope felt it necessary to release the document, particularly since his 2000 document summed up the same principles. Some analysts suggested it could be a question of internal church politics, or that it could simply be an indication of Benedict using his office as pope to again stress key doctrinal issues from his time at the Congregation.

In fact the only theologian cited by name in the document as having spawned erroneous interpretations of ecumenism was Leonardo Boff, the Brazilian who was a target of the former Cardinal Ratzinger's crackdown on liberation theology in the 1980s.

Regardless, the timing of the document came less than four days after Benedict revisited another key issue from Vatican II, as he revived the Latin Mass. Traditional Catholics cheered the move, but more liberal ones called it a step back from Vatican II.

Benedict, who attended Vatican II as a young theologian, has long complained about what he considers the erroneous interpretation of the council by liberals, saying it was not a break from the past but rather a renewal of church tradition.

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by bo_leggs July 13, 2007 10:25 PM EDT
Was your last tirade addressed to me or SinginRick? If it was addressed to me, I have consistently told the Truth. If you don't want to believe, that's your perogative. Your failure to accept the truth does not make me a liar. Once again, where are your sources? I have provided mine because I know them to be truthful. One can only assume that your statements are not true since you refuse to provide yours. You remind me of the atheist who was walking in the woods. He came upon a couple of bear cubs playing. Realizing that he could sell them to a zoo and make a lot of money, he grabs them and stuffs them in a sack. About that time Momma comes along. She knocks him to the ground and is about to devour him when he cries out, "Oh, God help me!" Suddenly everything freezes and God asks him what he wants. Knowing that he has consistantly denied God's existence, he realizes there is little chance the Lord will help him, so he asks the Lord to make the bear a Christian. With that, poof, the action resumes and the bear stops, makes the sign of the Cross, and says, "Bless us O Lord and these thy gifts ... End of story, and end of the atheist.
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by tuckerndfw July 13, 2007 9:40 PM EDT
Posted by bo_leggs at 06:33 PM : Jul 13, 2007

Rick,

I'm familiar with your troll routine and it's not any more impressive now that it was three months ago.

What other people think of me is totally irrelevant.

You are a known liar and troll. Those are facts.

But, keep on trolling since it is (apparently) the only outlet you (currently) have for your self-hatred and anger.

From this point on, you'll have to troll without me. I used up my troll baiting quota a week ago.
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by bo_leggs July 13, 2007 9:33 PM EDT
It doesn't matter what you call me. The fact is that you have not shown your statements as being factual. Oh, I do hope that Hoots saw that you have reverted back to your original state.
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by tuckerndfw July 13, 2007 9:21 PM EDT
Posted by bo_leggs at 05:34 PM : Jul 13, 2007

Now that you have identified yourself to be a troll, I correct my earlier assessment of you being a dogmatist.

You have been placed in my troll file.
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by bo_leggs July 13, 2007 8:34 PM EDT
Sorry, Tuck, you have only posted your statements without any substantiating sources. On the other hand, I have indicated my sources. You did list a website several times in your effort to prove there is no God. SinginRick and I have both visited your website, but you have refused to visit any of the sites Rick listed. In the web searches I have done regarding the subject, I have no even once seen any listing that even remotely contained your "facts," which is unfortunate, because I would really like to see something, anything, from your point of view. The fact is, it just isn't there. Or are you going to say that the Catholic Church is in control of internet, too.
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by tuckerndfw July 13, 2007 7:32 PM EDT
Sorry tuck. I should have written "the facts as you see them". My apologies. Hoots.

Posted by hootsmun at 04:26 PM : Jul 13, 2007

No apology necessary, you have not offended me at all.

I was concerned that you (and others) would be left with the (false) impression that bo_leggs had actually posted a fact.

Hope the baby is feeling better.

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by hootsmun July 13, 2007 7:26 PM EDT
Sorry tuck. I should have written "the facts as you see them". My apologies. Hoots.
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by tuckerndfw July 13, 2007 7:09 PM EDT
Posted by hootsmun at 04:03 PM : Jul 13, 2007

Actually, Hoots, when I read your comment about "facts," that was just too much.

bo_leggs has yet to post "facts," bo_leggs posts propaganda and calls it facts.

I do not intend to continue the circular argument, my primary purpose was to correct the false statement bo_leggs posted as "fact."

There is no "winning" with a dogmatist. The "facts" are whatever the dogmatist twists them to be.
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by bo_leggs July 13, 2007 7:04 PM EDT
Oh, Tucker, you are soooo lost.
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by hootsmun July 13, 2007 7:03 PM EDT
"Golly, Hoots, it sounds like you are in agreement with Tucker. Could you be as misguided as him? ".

This is not a surprise Bo_leggs. I wondered how long it would be before your sarcasm and silly remarks re-surfaced. I see the discussion has restarted with tuck, so I'm off. Bye boys. I won't say "May the best man win", because I know who the best man is - and it's Jesus Christ. Hoots.
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