WASHINGTON, July 9, 2007

Report: Iraq Has Not Met Benchmarks

Draft Report To Congress To Conclude Iraq Has Not Met Targets For Political And Economic Reform

  • Video Meeting Goals In Iraq

    CBS News Military Analyst Maj. Mike Lyons (Ret.) weighs in on U.S. goals in Iraq and how it may - or may not- lead to a troop withdrawl.

  • Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., right, accompanied by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev., discusses legislation to change the course of the War in Iraq, Monday, July 9, 2007, during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington. Photo

    Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., right, accompanied by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev., discusses legislation to change the course of the War in Iraq, Monday, July 9, 2007, during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington.  (AP)

(CBS/AP)  A draft report to Congress on the war will conclude that the U.S.-backed government in Iraq has met none of its targets for political, economic and other reform, speeding up the Bush administration's reckoning on what to do next, a U.S. official said Monday.

One likely result of the report will be a vastly accelerated debate among President Bush's top aides on withdrawing troops and scaling back the U.S. presence in Iraq.

A senior Pentagon official tells CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod a debate is already underway to determine what conditions must exist, short of victory, to begin pulling troops out of Iraq.

The "pivot point" for addressing the matter will no longer be Sept. 15, as initially envisioned, when a full report on Bush's so-called "surge" plan is due, but instead will come this week when the interim mid-July assessment is released, the official said.

A draft version of the report, expected to be presented to Congress on Thursday or Friday, circulated among various government agencies in Washington on Monday.

"The facts are not in question," the official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity. "The real question is how the White House proceeds with a post-surge strategy in light of the report."

The official said it is highly unlikely that Bush will withhold or suspend some aid to the Iraqis based on the report, as he can do under the law.

As the White House prepared its first major progress report for Congress, war-weary Republicans are focusing their efforts on protecting unrelated anti-terrorism programs while Democrats are trying again to pass legislation ordering troop withdrawals.

Simmering in the background is a growing sentiment among at least some Republicans that the U.S. strategy is failing and Bush should adopt a new policy before they must face their constituents during the August recess.

Clearly political support is weakening inside the administration, adds Axelrod. A senior administration official who has been to Iraq many times tells CBS News the Iraqis have made the surge "a joke," adding that they lack the ability, the firepower and the discipline to take over anything.

The Senate began debate Monday on legislation that would authorize $649 billion in defense programs. By week's end, senators are expected to vote on an amendment by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., that would order troop withdrawals to begin in four months, with the goal of completing the pullout by spring 2008.


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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 8:24 PM PDT

Blaming the catastrophic illegal invasion on the Iraqi puppet-officials is pathetic.

What a bunch of craven dopes!

www.ipetitions.com/petition/OutNow
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by randalds July 9, 2007 8:26 PM PDT
This is a surprise to anyone? They can't get anything done because they're always going on vacation and when they're not on vacation they screw everything up!

Wait a minute....is that Iraq or the Bush administration? Hmmm...maybe they've adopted American style democracy after all?
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by olebd July 9, 2007 8:27 PM PDT
I agree that the Iraqis seem to be incompetent but to point fingers at them will not help secure any vast reserves of precious oil for our use in the future. That would equate to failure of the REAL mission.
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by roger_inkart July 9, 2007 8:29 PM PDT
If the cause was just and the mission critical, we would have succeeded. But it was neither. This was a vanity waged by deluded and foolish neocon idealogues.

Shame on Americans for falling for it, shame on the media for carrying the administration's water, but greatest shame on the crooks, liars and SOBs in the White House for creating and implementing it all.

God and the planet: please forgive us for what we have done.
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by radiob-2009 July 9, 2007 8:29 PM PDT
They still are unable to govern, what is new? With Saddam a brutal dictator Iraqis lived side by side now without there former brutal dictator they are unable to live side by side nor govern their nation.We erred in invading, the rest is on them.
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 8:29 PM PDT
way to go, president bush!

no matter what anybody else says

we still love y'all here down south.

we elected you, we love you and we still support you.

signed: the south
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by gkc99 July 9, 2007 8:31 PM PDT
"Clearly political support is weakening inside the administration, adds Axelrod. A senior administration official who has been to Iraq many times tells CBS News the Iraqis have made the surge "a joke," adding that they lack the ability, the firepower and the discipline to take over anything."

Too bad they had to execute Saddam. That boy knew how to rap some knuckles and get the Muslims into line.

Of course the Iraqis weren't as good as the Saudis and the rich Arabs at knowing how to use the Blacks in a servitude position. Nothing a Muslim likes better than a Black slave.
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 8:33 PM PDT
you won't find two statues of our most famous american president, abraham lincoln, in the whole of the southern slave states...

but you'll find monuments to jefferson davis and george bush, jr. all over the republican, christian south.

i don't understand!

white trash, war makers, phony christian creeps...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by incog-nito July 9, 2007 8:33 PM PDT
Well, as long as Bush says we're still making "good progress", I guess there's nothing to worry about.
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by pepperp1 July 9, 2007 8:33 PM PDT
Out, Out move our soldiers out now. President Bush is spending 10 Billion of our tax dollars and over 100 soldiers killed each month and the Iraq government did, zip zero, nada, how does one say zip in Neo Con language? RESIGN!
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by caykasagi July 9, 2007 8:37 PM PDT
i hope the US loses at least 65.000 soldiers in iraq. so stay there bush and the next ***
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 8:39 PM PDT
republican, christian south elected idiot, bush, twice.

they still love bush in the south.

all those swift boat republican creeps.

all those pat robertson people.

all those rush limbaugh snakes.

ha,ha,ha.

what a cesspool the south is.

anybody got a confederate flag so i can wipe my azz?

war, hate, arrogance, phony christian creeps...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 8:41 PM PDT
i hope the US loses at least 65.000 soldiers in iraq. so stay there bush and the next ***
Posted by caykasagi

You're worthless - How's the weather in Tehran?
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 8:44 PM PDT
(2 of 2)

3) Apologize to the world for our country%u2019s many grave mistakes, and beg the world community to provide security forces and observers in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the U.S., while we immediately withdraw all U.S. troops and agents from foreign positions, and hold fresh and legitimate elections in all three countries.

4) Seize and liquidate the assets of war profiteering corporations like Halliburton, Bechtel, Exxon-Mobile, Blackwater, Chevron-Texaco, Wackenhut, the Lincoln Group, the Carlysle Group, FOX, General Electric, and Lockheed-Martin, and use the proceeds to create a reparations fund for the many surviving victims of the %u2018Project for a New American Century%u2019 plan for global fascism. The potential recipients would include victims in Iraq, Afghanistan, the U.S., and elsewhere.
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 8:44 PM PDT
Neither the Corporate/AIPAC-owned Democrats or Republicans have any idea as to how to proceed, so I would like to make a proposal.

Here is a four-point plan for resolving the Bush regime's nightmares and debacles in Iraq/Afghanistan/U.S./elsewhere: (1 of 2)

1) Jail the Bush-puppet, while he awaits war-crimes proceedings, along with Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, Wurmser, Gonzales, Baker, Perle, Ashcroft, Frum, Armitage, Rice, Kristol, Tenet, Libby, Abizaid, Murdock, Khalilzad, Myers, Poindexter, Kagan, Negroponte, Wolfowitz, and all of the other people, who have so badly disgraced our country, by waging fraud-based illegal war of aggression.

These people have also conspired to aggressively undermine our own Constitution, primarily at the behest of Corporate greed and religious delusion, resulting in several crippling moral, military, and economic defeats for the U.S. These people represent the greatest terrorist threat to the globe at the moment, by far.

2) Compel any politician who cooperated with the criminal Bush League, to step down in disgrace (by way of torch-bearing angry mob, if necessary).
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by roger_inkart July 9, 2007 8:44 PM PDT
Ok, congress - choke the money out of this war. Clearly, Bush is going to just noodle around until his term is up then dump it all on whoever is next.

The nation gave the dems a job and control of congress to bring this awful and counterproductive war to an end. Can you imagine what we could have accomplished in the last found years? What those countless billions could have bought? The wasted life and endless misery that could have been avoided?

My conscience is clean, as I have opposed this war since before the first shot was fired. If you supported this war, now might be a good time to make some amends (start by demanding a pull out date and impeachment of Bush/Cheney.)

If you still support this war, now might be a good time to see a psychiatrist. You are obviously in need of professional help.
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by drummer94 July 9, 2007 8:45 PM PDT
Nah. Not Tehran. caykasagi? Gotta be Hiroshima or Nagasaki. They started the thing. We finished it.
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 8:49 PM PDT
best of the south...dixie heros

1) john wilkes boothe
2) jimmy swaggart
3) george bush, jr.
4) katherine harris
5) george wallace
6) grand wizard of the k.k.k.
7) tom delay
8) pat robertson
9) rush limbaugh
0) jerry falwell

all southern, all christian, all snakes...

white trash, war making, slave state, republican christian snakes.

ha,ha,ha.

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by nothappyatall July 9, 2007 8:51 PM PDT
" A draft report to Congress on the war will conclude that the U.S.-backed government in Iraq has met none of its targets for political, economic and other reform"

NO!!!

REALLY???????? well I am SO surprised...

NOT!
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by smirk5 July 9, 2007 8:51 PM PDT
Boy, if all the young, able-bodied chickenhawks that support the Iraq war would just join up, maybe the Army could meet it's quota. Maybe it wouldn't have to accept so many fat people and felons.
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 8:52 PM PDT
Bravo on your point radiob, to a point, the Iraqis haven't taken the chance we gave them; but they've had lots of outside "help" in getting to where they are now (Al Qaeda, Iran, and their puppet Syria)...One question I have though is in this same article on MSNBC.com they state that many of the bills will limit our forces to hunting Al Qaeda...who do they think we're fighting now in Baqouba and in Al Anbar - some will say insurgents or the loons will say "freedom fighters", but most of the non-jihadist insurgent groups (1920's Revolution Brigades, Islamic Army in Iraq) are at the least providing us intel on Al Qaeda in Iraq and in other cases fighting Al Qaeda themselves with limited assistance from us...so I just want to know how we disengage from the fight we're in and still "fight Al Qaeda in Iraq" (where exactly do we fight them there if not right where we're killing them now!?), not to mention the more important enemy in Iraq, Iran; who everyone knows has been fighting against us, killing our troops, and working to ensure our plans don't get realized in Iraq since the day we removed their archenemy Saddam (which coincidentally was the one reason not to remove him in my mind - the islamoterrorist mullahs are worse than Saddam - let him keep them in check for us).
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by ioweign July 9, 2007 8:52 PM PDT
i hope the US loses at least 65.000 soldiers in iraq. so stay there bush and the next ***
Posted by caykasagi at 08:37 PM : Jul 09, 2007

caykasagi, you and George have alot in common!
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 8:56 PM PDT
"Maybe it wouldn't have to accept so many fat people and felons." - Smirk5

Nice...way to disparage those serving bud, nice job. Either one of my brothers serving right now probably weigh less than half of your wife...that's what you're really bitter about isn't it bro?

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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 8:57 PM PDT
they kicked that cheerleading, ******* creep, bush, out of the north...

so bush moved to the south and became a big man.

rednecks, reborns, war makers, christian creeps, arrogant slave state republican snakes...

bush's kind of people!

yep, the south elected bush, the south supports bush, the south loves bush.

war, hate, slimy christian hypocrite creeps!

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 8:57 PM PDT
fredgrad2000,

Re: "so I just want to know how we disengage from the fight we're in and still "fight Al Qaeda in Iraq"

That is an easy one. We simply send the Ghostbusters, and of course you, to go and battle this imaginary foe in Iraq.

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by radiob-2009 July 9, 2007 9:01 PM PDT
Did you all know its the _____ fault they were there at Bunker Hill, Fort George,Alamo,Vicksburg,Gettysburg,San Juan Hill, Argonne and Pearl Harbor.

They were singing Torah Torah Torah



Just Joking.
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 9:03 PM PDT
fredgrad2000,

Sending you to Iraq would have peripheral benefits, as well.

If you are really a college professor, then sending you to battle ghosts in Iraq would also be a major victory in the 'War on Stupidity'.

If you are really a teacher, then your school must be a real embarrassment. It would almost certainly have to be a faithed-based institution.

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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 9:04 PM PDT
"If you still support this war, now might be a good time to see a psychiatrist. You are obviously in need of professional help."

And what happens the day after we pull out? I congratulate you on being right about this war being a mistake, but you were right, but not for the right reasons...you didn't know Saddam didn't have WMD, neither did France or Russia either (they were paid off, we know it wasn't moral as Russia firebombed Grozny for the 10th time, and France was mostly worried they'd have to surrender for the what, 100th time?). The Iraq invasion was a mistake because there didn't turn out to be WMD stockpiles and because Iraqis have proven too weak to fight for freedom and democracy rather than their Muslim sects; but reversing our mistake of invading by just pulling out doesn't cure the problem; since by removing the brutal Saddam we have insured that when we leave, Iraqi Hezbollah (Sadr's group) and Al Qaeda stay in his stead; then what do we do? Just as brutal and brainwashed by Islamofascists, and committed to terrorism...where does that leave us if we just left Iraq as it sits today? This war sucks and has been managed like dog$hi+; but what choice do we have but to not leave right now (if you have any foresight that is)...
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by radiob-2009 July 9, 2007 9:05 PM PDT
Sein alles eine Verschwvrung, keine von ihm ist real. Kein Krieg geht weiter. 9-11 trat nicht auf. Recht
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 9:09 PM PDT
"imaginary foe in Iraq." - FeelFree1

You're delusional...not point in talking to someone blinded by the MoveOn.org crowd...just tell me who it is raising black Al Qaeda flags over cities like Ramadi, Al Qaim, and most recently Baqouba, and who was it imposing tyrannical Taliban-style religious edicts on the people of those areas while they were in control - I'm sure it was just normal everyday Iraqi citizens doing that; they just decided overnight to go from a secular Arab nation to an Islamic fundamentalist society...that makes more sense...It also makes no sense, you're right, that Al Qaeda, who wants to do nothing more than kill Americans and topple the moderate Middle East regimes who don't follow their tyrannical views, would get involved in Iraq - where they can kill Americans and establish safe havens in the heart of the middle east they want to radically change - yep, from their strategic view of the "battle", definitely wouldn't want to get involved in Iraq...
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 9:09 PM PDT
now, why would a doctor with a family and eight years of study in medical school turn terrorist?

he must really hate the symbol of evil encarnate ( george bush, jr. )

actually, when i look at that hateful visage of george bush

i too hate that evil freak.

bush, evangelist snakes, dixie republican creeps...

they'll all hateful, evil snakes.

ha,ha,ha.

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 9:10 PM PDT
fredgrad2000,

Re: "you didn't know Saddam didn't have WMD"

Sure we did. There was not a single claim made by the chicken-hawks, that withstood the slightest amount of scrutiny; much like your unsupportable and moronic claims about Iran, Syria, 'al-Qaeda-in-Iraq', etc.

Anyone who bothered to investigate was easily able to identify this hoax, ahead of the illegal invasion.

Only the criminally stupid had to wait until today for this revelation.
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by brianp55 July 9, 2007 9:13 PM PDT
What is the appropriate manner in which to deal with a President who deliberately lied to the American people to make a case for leading their nation into war in order to serve an ulterior motive? What do you do with this person? And don't tell me "impeachment" is the answer, when the crime is clearly TREASON.
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 9:14 PM PDT
FeelFree1 -

Glad you think I'm a professor, means I'm educated, because I'M sure you're a HS dropout who gets his info from left-wing conspiracy sites.

And "faith-based" - where does that come from!? Nowhere on any post I've made do I ever invoke religion; would be nice for you though if you were able to pigeon-hole me so easily though wouldn't it; makes it much easier to ignore valid points when you're brainwashed and can, in your own mind, paint someone else as the same doesn't it?

You have your warped view, and you're welcome to it; it is America...luckily for you you've found the right forum to spread it, plenty of others to share in the looney toons...
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by roger_inkart July 9, 2007 9:14 PM PDT
I congratulate you on being right about this war being a mistake, but you were right, but not for the right reasons...

Posted by fredgrad2000 at 09:04 PM : Jul 09, 2007

You don't know that. I guessed that Saddam's WMD capability was greatly exaggerated by the special intel offices set up by Rumsfeld and Cheney. You know how I knew? Because I knew who PNAC are. I knew they wanted to invade Iraq. I knew they would do anything to get their agenda moving - including connecting Saddam to 9/11. I wasn't surprised when GW started talking about going into Iraq. I believed that Saddam might have had some WMD, but nothing - nowhere near what the administration was claiming. Entropy tends to accelerate in closed environment - which is was Iraq was before the war. Biological weapons need sophisticated, expensive labs. Missiles need maintenance and upkeep. Nuclear weapons labs need money, talent and resources. Saddam had NONE of this. There were no WMDs because the critical structure needed to support them was non-existent.

Don't tell me what I was right about and how - because you don't know.
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 9:15 PM PDT
fredgrad2000,

Re: "just tell me who it is raising black Al Qaeda flags over cities like Ramadi, Al Qaim, and most recently Baqouba"

My guess is 'al-CIA'da' and 'al-Mossada'. Where is your support for this foolish and nonsensical claim?

Since you were entrenched in stupidity for 4 /12 years, what makes you so confident that your current idiotic analysis is any better? Shouldn%u2019t you look to those who were not as easily duped as you for help?

Are you unable to learn from your mistakes?
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 9:17 PM PDT
"Sure we did. There was not a single claim made by the chicken-hawks, that withstood the slightest amount of scrutiny; much like your unsupportable and moronic claims about Iran, Syria, 'al-Qaeda-in-Iraq', etc." - FeelFree1

How about the claims made by Hillary and crew?

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 9:18 PM PDT
the south is already plotting their next war...

the bush loving south sees that they've accomplished their mission in iraq.

now, they're gathering all their right wing republicans and christian creeps in south carolina...

to plot the next humilliating failure for america.

leave it to those southern creeps to do their worst to america.

war, hate, arrogance, reborns and rednecks...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by July 9, 2007 9:19 PM PDT
we need to get the hell out of there! come on dems, that's why we put you in there!
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 9:20 PM PDT
fredgrad2000,

Re: "How about the claims made by Hillary...?"

Well, I guess that your reliance on the claims of this AIPAC/Corporate-owned chicken-hawk shows that you are and equal opportunity dupe.
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by roger_inkart July 9, 2007 9:21 PM PDT
You have your warped view, and you're welcome to it; it is America...luckily for you you've found the right forum to spread it, plenty of others to share in the looney toons...
Posted by fredgrad2000 at 09:14 PM : Jul 09, 2007

I find it incredbile that those who defend the war, rationlize it, excuse the architects, and bash those that have been right all along still somehow have the audacity to accuse others of a "warped view" and being "brainwashed."

Of the two of us, Fred, who was duped? Who turned out to be the tool? And the fool? It was you. I realize you could never come to terms with the reality of this, but rest assured much of the nation has. You kind of right-wing idiocy will be marginalized more and more as time passes.

What you and people like you thought would bring prestige, power and control will instead be your downfall.
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 9:23 PM PDT
just got my special mail order toilet paper.

a whole case of azzwipe designed like the confederate flag.

now when i wipe my azz, it's pure delight.

better than sexx!

ha,ha,ha.

war, hate, republican christian snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by fredgrad2000 July 9, 2007 9:24 PM PDT
FeelFree1 -

The fact that you don't have the strategic vision to understand why Iran and Al Qaeda would OF COURSE be in Iraq after we got rid of Saddam is what is scary here.

Iran had the opportunity after Saddam was overthrown to empower a Shiite majority that would be friendly and subservient to its own regime, ensure it no longer had an enemy on its western border. The Iranian regime views the US as its biggest threat; so as the Central Bank of Terror in say 2003/2004; do you think they wanted a battle-ready, victorious, unencumbered force of US troops on its west AND east (Afghanistan). Do you think they wanted a REAL Shiite Democracy next door as an example to its own oppressed Shiite population? The answer is simple, help destablize Iraq long enough and help kill US soldiers to wear down the US public and at the same time keep US troops occupied; hold up victory long enough and the US public will tire (like a 3 year old), we'll leave and leave them as the main power broker; where they will ensure their Shiite allies are in-charge and that there is no real democracy next door to influence their own population. That's just simple logic...

Al Qaeda's motivation I have already posted...your choice not to believe it makes it no less true.
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by smirk5 July 9, 2007 9:24 PM PDT
Come on Cons. Show some principle. Call Alexander, Lugar, Voinovich and Domenici surrender monkeys. They're now calling for what Democrats called for last year. You guys had no trouble calling the Dems surrender monkeys, cut and runners, traitors, etc. Now, please start referring to the ever growing list of flip-flopping Republicans the same names you saw fit to call Democrats. Otherwise, we know you stand for nothing.
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 9:26 PM PDT
never a war the south couldn't lose.

jefferson davis lost his,
johnson lost his
bush will lose his.

the south has lost every war they started.

idiot southern creeps are only good for sunday afternoon parades

in their tight-butt uniforms.

ha,ha,ha.

war, division, arrogance, phony christian creeps, crooked republican snakes...

nothing good comes out of the south!
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by seven-pesos July 9, 2007 9:30 PM PDT
you all see what kind of people come out of the south...

bush, delay, swaggart, robertson, foley, harris, falwell...

don't you think it's time to be rid of those southern states?

after all, nothing good ever comes out of the south!
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by roger_inkart July 9, 2007 9:32 PM PDT
Al Qaeda's motivation I have already posted...your choice not to believe it makes it no less true.
Posted by fredgrad2000 at 09:24 PM : Jul 09, 2007

Which makes the war in Iraq all that more tragic. The Bush administration played right into Al Qaeda's hands.

To say nothing of the leaps and bounds China and India have accomplished while we've struggled in Iraq. Again, what could have been accomplished if we would have taken that money, power and talent and put it into something else? Instead, we just threw it all down the drain.

Freddy boy - you, your kind and your idiot president has made bin Laden and very happy man. How does that make you feel?
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by dhcobra July 9, 2007 9:33 PM PDT
The South (US)is fine.

Lets get ourselves behind a movement to rid us of the Bush influence. Enough!! Please!

Short of impeachment is there any other way to get rid of Mr. Bush? (Vote of NO CONFIDENCE, Etc? AKA Great Britian?)Whatever it takes lets do it. Our president has let all of us in our country down. Our entire way of life is going down fast. Time to change. This is what Democracy is all about.
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by downtowner97 July 9, 2007 9:34 PM PDT
Whenever a neocon is challenged with whether his party and president are doing the right thing, he will always answer the same: "The Democrats are even stupider".

Since when has it been a sign of greatness to be less stupid than someone else? Whoever we place in control of this great nation needs to behave and decide well, not just appear less stupid than the other side and blame their predecessor.
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by feelfree1 July 9, 2007 9:37 PM PDT
fredgrad2000,

Re: "The fact that you don't have the strategic vision to understand why Iran and Al Qaeda would OF COURSE be in Iraq"

Claiming what 'would' happen, and assessing what 'is' happening, while offering support for your claims, are two VERY different things. A 'fact' is something that can be supported and/or tested. Your blather is completely devoid of anything resembling a 'fact'.

Your faith-based stupidity has left you looking like a complete fool, and as gullible as they come, yet you insist on relying on your own imagination and stupidity as a basis for your future analysis.

Children can learn, dogs can learn, even rats, but apparently this is beyond your capability. Yet you press on as if you know something about anything, when you clearly don't.

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