July 6, 2007

Keep The Cameras Away

National Review Online: Lieberman's Support For U.K. Surveillance System Is Misguided

  • Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., has suggested the United States should establish a national network of surveillance cameras, much like the United Kingdom.

    Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., has suggested the United States should establish a national network of surveillance cameras, much like the United Kingdom.  (CBS)

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(National Review Online)  This column was written by Jim Harper.

Senator Joe Lieberman, in the wake of last week's terrorist attack on Glasgow's airport and the foiled plots in London, has proposed expanding the use of surveillance cameras nationwide in the U.S. He cites the effective response of British law enforcement to the attacks, and believes that "we can do it without compromising anybody's real privacy." The senator's intentions are noble, but his proposal is badly flawed.

Surveillance cameras do have forensic value that can help authorities catch suspects after crimes have already been committed. The problem with this is that, for obvious reasons, suicide attackers tend not to worry about being caught afterwards. Antiterrorism strategies should be geared toward prevention; that is how lives are saved. The U.K. contains over 4.2 million surveillance cameras — one for every 14 people — and the Glasgow attackers still eluded detection until it was too late. The only reason there were no fatalities was the attackers' own amateurishness.

In a further blow to the perceived effectiveness of surveillance cameras, Clive Norris of the Sheffield University Centre for Criminological Research testified last year that researchers found that Glasgow crime did not decrease after cameras were installed city-wide. It actually increased by 9 percent.

The senator's proposal for stepping up surveillance has other problems besides ineffectiveness. Corruption could become an issue. This has already happened in a number of U.S. cities that have installed cameras at traffic intersections to deter drivers from running red lights.

Authorities in Lubbock, Texas, actually shortened the yellow lights at intersections where they had placed cameras. This increased the number of red light violations, which nicely padded the city's revenues. Worse, traffic accidents at those intersections increased. The cameras actually made drivers less safe. The problem wasn't fixed until an investigation by a local television station brought the matter to public attention. It is worth asking if cash-hungry governments can resist similar temptations with terrorism surveillance cameras.

There is also the threat of mission creep. Lubbock Mayor David Millers, who supports traffic cameras for safety reasons, acknowledged as such when he said "it's also about the generation of revenue." It would be naïve to believe that cameras set up solely for terrorism prevention would not also soon be used for other purposes.

Law enforcement would scratch and claw to use the cameras for more general surveillance. This has happened before, and it will happen again. To cite an example of one anti-terrorism tool that has already been co-opted for other purposes, provisions in the Patriot Act have been used in everything from drug cases to prosecuting organized crime. This ties directly into the privacy concerns that Sen. Lieberman believes would not be compromised.

U.K. residents are routinely filmed by as many as 300 cameras in a single day. Cameras are everywhere from public squares to public bathrooms. It is absurd to believe that the U.K. model that Sen. Lieberman wants to emulate does not violate privacy.

A policy should be judged by its costs and its benefits. A national network of terrorism surveillance cameras would benefit investigators after an attack. But the cost is too large to justify, especially since the cameras would not actually prevent attacks. The threats of corruption and mission creep coupled with serious privacy concerns tip the cost-benefit scale against the cameras. And this leaves aside the millions of dollars it would require to install and operate the cameras. Sen. Lieberman should reconsider his position.


By Jim Harper
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online.



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by michellem99-2009 July 8, 2007 3:01 PM EDT
No body trust anyone today. It is sad. They want hear us talk on phone,read our mail, know our on line stuff, what we buy, what is read, on and on. We can't do the same to them. And they want the boys and girls in the armed forces at an illegal wars. Next who knows. I am old so I don't want a nanny govt and I surely don't trust the govt.
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by bluestardad July 8, 2007 2:17 AM EDT
Liberman is a Israeli masqurading as an American!
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by michellem99-2009 July 7, 2007 3:55 PM EDT
If they did maybe the Libbys would be caught red handed. But if they del it as they would to cover their asres. I got one Let make them when they leave office.
Live dirt poor
Worry about where their next meal is
Live on 1 meal aday
A poor person's meal at that
Sleep on the floor
Wear clothe of the poor
live in poor person's housing
take mass transit
Have a low cost pc
They be surely whining
Some need that.
They be grateful to have the basics
People live that poor.
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by kaiyo4u July 7, 2007 12:45 PM EDT
While we're at it, let's put ALL our elected officials who reitre on Social Security and Medi-care/Aid...
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by kaiyo4u July 7, 2007 11:46 AM EDT
Let's put cameras in every office of government, tap their phones, record their cell calls, emails and anything else that can be imagined. Maybe we would have a government that will be accountable?
I find it rather amazing that those in power want to video us, yet they get to stay off camera...
Again, let's put cameras in every government office and record their every move, conversation, and emails...
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by adian1-2009 July 7, 2007 9:22 AM EDT
Honestly, where does this guy fit? I just can't understand how come a jewish man in such an important position can become such a hitlerian mind. This guy does not belong in a country of liberties, at least not as a Senator!
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by michellem99-2009 July 7, 2007 3:14 AM EDT
I am 52. I grew up in small towns in New England.
As poor children in foster care there was a programme about the future in 67 to 69 hosted by Walter Cronkite. Us kids would talk about it. We could not figure that out. It was pre computer. We never heard of computer. We did talk about flying cars,that never happened. Now it is here. Surely not what we yakked about. 1984 The book That guy had to be dreaming when he wrote was my thinking years ago. I just laughed then. NAH. Never happen. Back then people talked about the book.Well,it slowly is.
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by observantx July 7, 2007 3:04 AM EDT

They tap our phones.

They read our email.

They read our mail.

They want to know what books we check out of the library.

They want to know what websites we visit.

They want access to our bank records.

Now they want us on camera all the time and everywhere.

All so that they can be large and in charge all the time while "saving" us from "terrists".

America. Land of the free and home of the brave.

Yeah. Sure. Uh-huh. You betcha, ace.

George Orwell was dead on the money. He just was a little off on the timetable.
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by omega39-2009 July 7, 2007 1:00 AM EDT
George Orwell was a visionary. When I was young, I couldn't imagine America becoming an Orwellian nightmare. Now here I am living in it.
Posted by random_radar

Random, four legs good, two legs better....
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by gkc99 July 6, 2007 11:15 PM EDT
We should cover Connecticut with surveillance cameras to catch all the Lieberman voters who haven't signed up to fight in Iraq yet.

Isn't that the state where they used to have to write "for prevention of disease only" in big purple letters on condoms? Maybe they should make a real big condom for Joe Lieberman, shove it over his head, and film him on a surveillance camera.
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by michellem99-2009 July 6, 2007 9:57 PM EDT
I am not dreaming as we are moving to 1984. Most children don't know any different. I was safer FORE BUSH got his claws into power.Can we save ourselves before it too late. Don't blame the computer but man/woman.
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by michellem99-2009 July 6, 2007 9:44 PM EDT
You think them cameras would stop them bloody fools on doing damage as they know the cameras are there. Nope. They know the cameras are here. It don't stop them. There are postees that live in the cities. Have you read the book 1984,if not, why. You want an 1984 style nation. I don't.I read it on talking books. It made me sick.Go ahead if you want to be a human robot with no say,you must do as you are told as the state owns YOU,your told when to breed and the state takes the child from its parents,you can't read what you want,can't go as you wish, watched 24/7 etc. Do you want that. Any free person will surely not. I AM DREAMING OR MAKING THIS UP.
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by michellem99-2009 July 6, 2007 7:41 PM EDT
What do I care, Seattle they are in stores banks buses taxi the lights some apt buildings etc. I draw the line public restrooms..no way no way in our apt. I don't want some jerk watching me bathe,change my clthes,use the loo, etc. Get it. Stay out of the living quarters and rest rooms.If yer that scared then deal with your fears.
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by closethippy1 July 6, 2007 6:46 PM EDT
I think it makes mighty sense to have cameras all over the place. I tell you what's the first thing that comes to mind when I say this: It's not terrorism but those b'tards who have abducted so many girls from parking lots, downtown areas, and apartment complexes.

I truly don't understand what the big deal is about having cameras all over the place. It would make everyone think twice before they make fools of themselves trying rob someone, or commit some kind fo vandalism, or harm other people.

I would feel much more secure that way. Why wouldn't anybody else feel the same way?
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by oleander8 July 6, 2007 5:32 PM EDT
What has happened to Lieberman?? he looks like an aged Howdy Doody....
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by ioweign July 6, 2007 5:30 PM EDT
Let's start by installing 15 cameras per Senator/Representative in Congress.
That way we MIGHT catch them actually doing their job.
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by random_radar July 6, 2007 5:22 PM EDT
George Orwell was a visionary. When I was young, I couldn't imagine America becoming an Orwellian nightmare. Now here I am living in it.
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by marcodele July 6, 2007 5:06 PM EDT
I think Lieberman should keep his Orwellian vision for Americans to himself. "Badly flawed" is a good way to describe anything Lieberman.
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