Supremes OK Student's Anti-Bush T-Shirt

Political Speech Rights Upheld For 7th Grader Whose School Sought To Censor His Anti-Bush Wear

(AP)  The original T-Shirt is too small now, but Zachary Guiles has one just like it, a size larger. Highly critical of President Bush, it triggered a legal battle that lasted Guiles from seventh grade to the brink of his senior year.

The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday rejected an appeal by the Williamstown school district of a ruling that it violated Guiles' rights by censoring his T-shirt.

"I'm extremely glad that they didn't decide to try to overturn the case. The appeals court decision was very well thought out and very well stated," Guiles said in an interview from Massachusetts, where the gifted young trombonist is studying this summer at Tanglewood, the summer home of the Boston Symphony Orchestra.

Guiles attended a peace rally with his father, Tim Guiles, where he bought a T-shirt bearing images of cocaine and a martini glass — but also had messages calling President Bush a lying drunk driver who abused cocaine and marijuana, and the "chicken-hawk-in-chief" who was engaged in a "world domination tour."

He wore it to school about once a week for a couple of months without incident, before the school's cheerleading coach raised an alarm about it when she was chaperoning a trip to the Statehouse, Tim Guiles said.

The young Guiles was told to turn his shirt inside out, cover the offending images with duct tape or change clothes. He refused, and missed the trip to the Statehouse, he recalled.

Then-Assistant Principal Seth Marineau told Guiles the shirt violated the school's policy against images alcohol and other drugs.

On Friday, Marineau, who left the school district for educational consulting in 2005, said he had no problem with the court's decision.

"I think that the court knows what it's doing and it's enforcing its rules or its interpretation of the law," he said. "It went through the court system. Whatever they have decided is proper."

The Guileses, helped by the American Civil Liberties Union, argued that the shirt's message was much less about promoting drug use than about politics — political views highly critical of Bush.

"They were entirely negative," Zachary Guiles said of the shirt's drug images. "They were an incredibly stupid thing that the president has done. It was pointing out the inadequacy of the president, certainly not promoting them (drugs) in any way, shape or form."

On Monday, the court ruled that schools could regulate student expression if it appeared to promote use of illegal drugs. That ruling involved a teenager in Alaska who unveiled a banner at a school-sanctioned event saying "Bong Hits For Jesus."

But in that decision, Justice Samuel Alito cautioned that schools could not censor political speech.

The case is Marineau v. Guiles, 06-757.

[boatquack]

billysmith6, no one has the right to insult another person. Freespeech is now used to allow poor behavior and obviously badparenting. It was an insult to the office of the President; respect the office not the person. If you cannot communicate an opinion without insulting someone then you obviously should not be commenting. Way to go Zach! Pitiful Pitiful go get a life little billy.

[antivenin]

"no one has the right to insult another person.... If you cannot communicate an opinion without insulting someone then you obviously should not be commenting. Way to go Zach! Pitiful Pitiful go get a life little billy. "

Um, BoatQUACK, you are a bit of a hypocrite, there, buddy? Of course, here in America we have a right to insult anyone, if we wish to do so. Perhaps you are an immigrant from the Soviet side of the world.

[crater7]

ROOKIES:

[raiderjohn00]

boatquack...You got the QUACK part right! The only insult to the Office of the President is George Bush!

[raiderjohn00]

That's right even a 7th grader can see this guy is wrong about everything he say's and does..Im not far left I'm close middle...lol

[j0hnwi11iams]

Something the right needs to be mindful of is that respect is worthless if it is not MUTUAL. The right wing has done NOTHING to extend any shred of respect to the left. Your chief spokespeople, Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, are all foaming maggots who can't engage in a respectable discussion. Bush is a con artist who has misled this country on a path of disaster. If this seems disrespectful o you, it is only because it is TRUE. He has not earned any respect. He will get none from me.

[undermyboot]

The blathering IQ under 60 far right on this board can't take it. Even the far right authoritarians who populate the far-right's wet-dream in this Supreme Court recognized this is political speech. So you f*cking morons who populate the nazi-right can smoke it or stick it up your azz. Even your masters think you are neanderthals. Lick their boots and crawl back to your caves. ROFLMAO

[squirty6]

Bush and this administration are the biggest insult. No T-shirt ever created could exceed their vulgar display of power and abuse. Consistenly insulting the general public and killing innocents around the world. We should make it mandatory to wear anti-Bush shirts in this day. Way to go Zach. Continued luck with everything.

[smirk5]

Every day that Bush gets up and fails to resign, he insults the office of President of the U.S.

[agnim]

"It was an insult to the office of the President; respect the office not the person. If you cannot communicate an opinion without insulting someone then you obviously should not be commenting. Way to go Zach!
Posted by boatquack at 02:45 PM : Jun 30, 2007"

Has it ever occurred to you, Quack, that the present occupant represents 'insult' and dis-'respect' to the office of the president?

And that your kind are responsible electing and re-electing 'insult' and dis-'respect' to the office of the president?

And imagine commanding when one should and "should not be commenting"? Commanding when one should exercise 'free speech'?

As a reminder to you, royalist, he's president george; not king george.

He serves at the pleasure of the people; the vast majority of whom, unlike you, are very very displeased him sullying the office; and have returned an embarrassingly low approval rating. LOL

Also, that kid no doubt witnesses the very sub-standard performance coming from the office of the president, and which can result from one using drugs.
And the young fellow is wisely helping to alert his fellow students about the dangers of drugs on the human Nervous System; since the adults, who would elect and re-elect a drug-head to be their president, can't be trusted to do enough to save the children from drugs?

[mom_applepie]

singinrick is back? I am cowering. As stated more than once already, it is our president who is the insult to the office, the worst president in the history of these United States. Will he end with approval ratings in the double digits?

THAT is the question.

Bravo Zach!!!

[mom_applepie]

singin rick is back? I am cowering.

As has been stated, our present president is the insult to the office, the worst present in the history of these United States, surpassing even Warren G. Harding, who would possibly have been worse had he lived long enough. The big question is whether our beloved (less and less as time goes on, to be sure) president finish office in the double digits?

[leland61]

How can you not insult Bush. He is an insult to reason, to the Republic, to Democracy, and living proof that intelligent design is a fairy tale.

[grammawhamma]

If the school has a dress code that prohibits clothes showing illegal drugs or alcohol then I think the kid should not have been allowed to wear this particular shirt. If he wanted to make a political statement I am sure there are many other Bush bashing shirts available. Ummm...would the school allow a shirt depicting Clinton with his P.enis hanging out??

[gkc99]

"It was an insult to the office of the President; respect the office not the person. If you cannot communicate an opinion without insulting someone then you obviously should not be commenting"--boatquack


Wrong! I guess we can't say anything bad about Hitler or Stalin, according to your lights. They were after all the leaders of their countries, just like Bushit is the leader of this country, for now.

Bushit is a liar, a thief, and a coward.

War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Bushit is President.

[kansas1946]

This comment subject actually brings up a pretty good subject for debate. Can you respect the office of the President, yet not respect the person that holds that office. I personally think, absolutely. The office of the President is not a person, but part of the struture of our constituion and our form of government. We have the executive, judicial, and legislative, and I am sure that 99pct of the American people have a great repect for that balance of power, and each of the branches, as the ideal for democracy. People bash congress, the federal courts, including the supreme court all of the time. What is getting bashed are the people making decisions that we disagree with, not the branch of government itself. This bashing, and the right to bash, is healthy for a free and democratic society. If you supress it, it goes underground and festers and rots and sickens your society. George Bush has done nothing (other than how he handled Afghanistan in the beginng) to earn my respect. If face he has earned my contempt for the damage he has done on so many fronts to my beloved country. It could well be decades before we see the last of the ripples created by the load of sh** that this guy pitched into our midst. Respect the presidency, and kick the presidents rear end if he isn't doing good for America.

[annd2302]

Why don%u2019t you buy that t-shirt and shove it up-your-***, you communist ***

[annd2302]

Posted by nikosk1 at 07:30 PM : Jun 30, 2007

EVERY AMERICAN MUST WEAR ONE.


nikosk1, place your hands in your pocket, Get up from your chair, Let the entire u.s. population shove their foot into your large ***.

Better yet, just get up and leave America, we do not need people like you.

[toolmangler-2009]

"It was an insult to the office of the President; If you cannot communicate an opinion without insulting someone then you obviously should not be commenting"--boatquack


He 'is' an insult to the presidency. There!! that comment is sure to insult someone. Now!! tell me how to say that without insulting someone and taking 10,000 words to do it.

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by nikosk1 at 07:30 PM : Jun 30, 2007


With the right paper you can print one on your own inkjet printer and iron it on and I won't make you leave if you wear it. (grin)

[burneb]

As much as any American alive, I agree and believe that George Bush has been a blot on the Presidency and all that we should aspire to as a nation. However, "message" shirts are inappropriate at public schools, church services, funerals, or such where the place or event gives the messages imprimature or the messages distract from the serious function of the gathering. There are plenty of public places and venues to express opinions. Isn't it difficult enough for teachers to run orderly schools without t-shirt wars?

[nskduke]

I agree

[rhs648]

Flipping through the stations on my radio, I heard a reverend describe how we live in an age that offers both the best of everything and the worst of everything. This is not a religious statement. It does, however, make sense. Some people are shocked at the language used by some posters. There are posters who can make their points without profanity and name calling. There are other posters whose every other word is full of profanity and vileness. Not too many years ago, men would tip their hats to women, hold doors open for other people, and never swear in public. One of my sons is a performer. He worked in Japan for three months at a theme park. Every two weeks management paid the help by putting cash in envelopes and leaving the envelopes on tables in an empty unlocked room. All day, employees would enter the room and pick-up their pay. When he performed in Singapore, people would purchase sodas, find a bench, and drink their soda. He never saw anyone drinking their soda except at a bench. My question is why would a parent allow a child to wear something many consider distasteful and offensive? It may be perfectly legal and distasteful at the same time. As a parent, I would never allow a child to wear something others may find offensive. Again, we live in an age that offers both the best of everything and the worst of everything.

[likeitis5050]

first of all I find it hard to believe a child would choose to buy a shirt with such a strong political statement. Then I find it hard to believe the school didn't have some sort of dress code that stated message shirts of any kind were not allowed. Finally while I do not like Bush, I find it easy enough to make my point without being profane. What I'm not surprised about is that the ACLU jumped on board to help out. Wonder if they would have gotten any where without their big mouths to help.

[randalds]

Give him hell kid!

[boatquack]

gkc99 if you had any idea about war it is not peace and freedom will never be slavery. Pointing out wrongs is the requirement for a free citizenry wasting space with single symble words might be easier for you but it cheapens your point.
antivenin insults are not speech, just allowed because people like you don't understand what free speech is and if you had a point to make it was lost calling me names, get a life.

[toolmangler-2009]

An idea or comment that offends is ok. There is no need for vulgarity or character assassination in commentary. They are counter_productive and useless. (the focus is on the insult not the message). BTW, I am as guilty as anyone and I apologize. I want to make a point, not a name for myself.

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by veteran71 at 02:38 PM : Jul 01, 2007


If someone catches a bullet because a stranger shot his/her mouth off at the wrong (read a 'dangerous') nut, I would call that a wrongful exercise of 'rights'. There are times when being responsible 'mitigates' free exercise of 'rights'.

[cantshutup]

I wonder if these questions can be answered?
Isn't SCHOOL, assuming they are places of learning not indoctrination camps, the perfect place for a political discussion regarding American politics?
Is it wrong to question the decision making skills of someone who has a proven past alcohol and cocaine addition?
Are children mere pawns in adult games, or are they entitled to participate in their stake of their future?
Why do people like singinprick have no response or condemnation for the known alcohol and drug abuse of the person who criminally sits in the white house as president?
Do people in general not know the real and present danger they are in?

[agnim]

"However, "message" shirts are inappropriate at public schools...
Posted by burneb at 09:50 PM : Jun 30, 2007"

You do have a valid point: Children should not be used to make political statements for adults; and for sure not do so at school where they should be more focussed on learning.

However, students/parents can be asked (and not imposed on) in order to accomplish a worthwhile end; if such an end could be considered as disruptive to a school atmosphere, yes?