High Court Will Review Gitmo Cases

Will Look At Whether Detainees Can Challenge Confinement In Federal Court

(CBS/AP)  Rejecting Bush administration arguments, the Supreme Court reversed course and agreed Friday to review whether Guantanamo Bay detainees can use the civilian court system to challenge their indefinite confinement.

The administration argues that a new law strips courts of their jurisdiction to hear detainee cases.

“In other words,” says CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews, “the two other branches of government have told the court to lay off Guantanamo and today the Supreme Court said ‘No.’”

The justices took the action without comment along with other end-of-term orders. In April, the court turned down an identical request, although several justices indicated they could be persuaded otherwise.

The move is highly unusual.

"Just because the justices have agreed to hear the cases doesn't mean they will automatically rule against the government and for the detainees," CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen says, though he adds the news will leave the White House "concerned."

The court did not indicate what changed the justices' minds about considering the issue. But last week, lawyers for the detainees filed a statement from a military officer in which he described the inadequacy of the process the administration has put forward as an alternative to a full-blown review by civilian courts.

"This is a stunning victory for the detainees," said Eric M. Freedman, professor of constitutional law at Hofstra Law School, who has been advising the detainees. "It goes well beyond what we asked for, and clearly indicates the unease up there" at the Supreme Court.

Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said that "we did not think that court review at this time was necessary, but we are confident in our legal position."

The Justice Department issued a similar statement: "We are disappointed with the decision, but are confident in our legal arguments and look forward to presenting them before the Court."

Tom Wilner, an attorney for Guantanamo detainees, says the court is finally confronting the legal black hole of Guantanamo, reports Andrews. Of the 375 detainees, only 10 have been charged with a crime, and the evidence against the rest, Wilner says, can be farcical.

“The government has admitted that most of the evidence is simply second- or third-hand hearsay ... but for many people, there is no evidence,” says Wilner.

Five of the nine justices must agree to take a case that previously has been denied a hearing, according to an authoritative text on the Supreme Court.

The case is expected to be heard in the fall.

"I would not be surprised if five or more justices were willing again to tell the White House and Congress to try yet again to get it right," Cohen says.

In February, the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia upheld a key provision of a law the Bush administration pushed through Congress last year stripping federal courts of their ability to hear the detainees' challenges to their confinement.

On April 2, the Supreme denied the detainees' request to review the February appeals court ruling.

The detainees then petitioned the court to reconsider its denial.

Dismissing the petitions would be "a profound deprivation" of the prisoners' right to speedy court review, lawyers for the detainees said.

The administration asked that the detainees' Supreme Court petitions be thrown out.

Many of the 375 detainees have been held at Guantanamo for five years.

In recent months, the main arena in the legal battle over the detainees has been the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.

The appeals court is considering how to handle the detainees' challenges to tribunals that found them to be enemy combatants, leaving them without any of the legal rights accorded prisoners of war.

The detainees' attorneys want the appeals court to allow a broad inquiry questioning the accuracy and completeness of the evidence the Combatant Status Review Tribunals gathered about the detainees, most of it classified.

The Justice Department has been seeking a limited review, saying that the findings of the military tribunals are "entitled to the highest level of deference."

An Army reserve officer and lawyer who played a key role in the enemy combatant hearings at Guantanamo Bay says tribunal members relied on vague and incomplete intelligence while being pressured to rule against detainees, often without any specific evidence. The officer's affidavit, submitted to the Supreme Court last Friday, is the first public criticism by a member of the military panels that determine whether detainees will continue to be held.

"I suspect that the disclosure about the corrupted CSRT proceedings and the very restrictive government view of what the detainees can do in the lower courts led the justices to conclude that they should take up these issues," said Washington attorney David Remes, who represents 18 detainees.

"The court's decision to hear the cases brings the detainees one step closer to receiving their day in court," said Remes.

The operation of Guantanamo Bay has brought global criticism of the Bush administration and condemnation from Democrats on Capitol Hill.

The cases are Boumediene v. Bush, 06-1195, and Al Odah v. U.S., 06-1196.

[gkc99]

Maybe even the Roberts court has heard of "the switch in time that saved the nine"

[dan9111]

Finally! "Our government" has felt entitled to murder whomever it chooses. At the same time, we are told these actions are wrong when others do them. One more bit of evidence that a conservative court is an honest one.

[drummer94]

Great. Tie up the courts time. How many millions of dollars is THIS gonna cost? We captured them as "enemy combatants" right? When it is determined they no longer have any "useful" info, turn 'em loose to their home countries. Their so few, I don't think the impact will be great. As long as our troops are still on the killing fields, well, that says it.

[secundus2]

Whether or not this action is a "setback" for the Bush administration remains to be seen. You are jumping to a hasty conclusion. What if the Supreme Court upholds the Military Commissions Act? What if the detainees are granted the right of appeal, but don't actually win their appeals?

I've long believed that Congress ought to establish a peregrine court; aliens are not part of the people of the United States, and the Constitution was designed by and for the people of the United states. Let all the issues concerning the rights of aliens in the US be decided by a court whose focus is solely on non-citizens. Citizens of other countries who are guests here need a very clear set of legal principles to be laid out for them. They are given many rights that should be exclusively reserved for citizens, unless the US has signed international agreements giving them additional rights.

[l8c6]

gkc99, are you talking about adjustment to the number of justices?

It may be necessary someday. The supreme court seems to be comprised of those too closely associated with the old world values their parents came grew out of.

The catholic church is not a democracy or even a republic. It's organization is based on a hierarchical structure that relates to the system of autocratic rule characteristic of the old world. I think the invaders of our government & supreme court should have run for positions in their old homelands but invasion and subversion is part of human history and the founders of the new world never said it would be easy to hold freedom. As a matter of fact I think there was warning that there would always be those looking to take it away and one can see the conservatives are the seeds of what comprised the old world aristocrats who kept society oppressed.

How can we expect an honest decision from this supreme court that is riddled with elitist entitlement to rule at their convenience.

[dan9111]

It is not a setback for Bush if most of them are not guilty. Liberals own Bush some gratitude for getting them elected, just as conservatives should be encouraging Michael Moore.

[afmca]

With this Supreme Court they will probably approve torture, degradation, and killing. Fair trials and respect for the law is only for the rich and corporate America. This neo-con court has proven that it has no respect for the Constitution just ultra-right wing dogma.

[antoniof123]

The world is truly screwed when the few who are running it thing that they are smarter then anyone else on the planet.

In the end it always ends the same for them though.

[clestes-2009]

With the court as divided as it is, anything is possible.

This is good news for the detainees and good news for America. The Bush administration riding roughshod over the courts is over baby!!!

Libby going behind bars, Cheney investigated, Gonzo investigated and dubya cannot even get the rep leader of the Senate to back his immigration bill.

These next 18 months are going to be fun!!!

[dan9111]

Bush does not run the world, or any part of it. His followers do. There will be a time when the true liberals and the true conservatives discover they are exactly the same, and Bush nor the Democrats are one of them.

Lies and belief in political "solutions" got us into this mess, and most of us still believe they will get us out of the mess. It is nonsense. This conservative court is just fine, and true liberals should embrace it for the time being.

[lars008-2009]

NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???
If they can kill us, we can kill them

Qaeda warns of attacks 'worse than 9/11'
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out 'Martyrdom' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[irishmail42]

Now that the conservative Supreme Court is willing take a second look at the Guantanamo Bay gulag is there any doubt that creating it was a bad idea?

[tnt1954]

how liberals, libertines think. we all have
the right to life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness. who will provide it at what
cost is another story. taxes are involuntary
servitude, slavery. tax slavery. so is
working. involuntary servitude. like huey long's, everyman a king, owner of his own
plantation, which runs by itself, without
human assistance. all you do is lift your
mind to God in the Highest and the loot rolls
in, food magically appearing out of nowhere.
like aladdin's lamp. of course, the cordoba
research and development corporation was the
first to invent the 'aladdin device'. just
rub the lamp, and whatever you demand from
the genie within, magically appears. only
$5.99 at walmart, plus tax. they're selling
like hotcakes for the fourth of july.

[lars008-2009]

what do you call an organization that:

kills you if you don't join it...

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=82201&ln=eng&txt=islam%20law%20kill%20kaafir

kills you if you leave it...

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=696&ln=eng&txt=kaafir%20kill

kills you if you don't do what they tell you to do..

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=6035&ln=eng&txt=kaafir%20kill

kills you if you speak against it%u2026.

http://islamqa.com/index.php?QR=22809&ln=eng

kills anybody that is not a member of it...

http://www.hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran5.html

still practices slavery

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=12562&ln=eng&txt=slavery

still practices pagan rituals...

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/pagansources.htm

allows the r a p e of babies and animals...

http://www.homa.org/default.asp?TOCID=2083225445

a. satanic cult???
b. islam???
c. all the above???

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

[wdrussell1]

NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???
Don't worry lars, the last thing these prisoners are worried about is you boring them to death with your meaningless cut and paste.

[lars008-2009]

NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???
Don't worry lars, the last thing these prisoners are worried about is you boring them to death with your meaningless cut and paste.
Posted by WDRussell1 at 01:24 PM : Jun 29, 2007

Russia: ex-Guantanamo detainee killed
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070627/ap_on_re_eu/russia_guantanamo

[lars008-2009]

FASCIST NAZI ISLAM TO ENSLAVE NON MUSLIM WORLD

HAMAS MICKEY MOUSE SAYS
Islamic rule will benefit Christians and Jews
by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook - May 14, 2007
The force behind Hamas TV%u2019s controversial Mickey Mouse clone said today that his children%u2019s television program will continue to promote worldwide Islamic supremacy, for everyone's benefit, including Christians and Jews.
In a long interview on Hamas TV, Hazim Al-Sha%u2019arawi, Deputy Director of Al-Aqsa TV and one of the creators of the Hamas children%u2019s TV show Tomorrow%u2019s Pioneers, said that using the program to promote Islamic rule over other religions is actually promoting %u201Cjustice, goodness and world love.%u201D
Al-Aqsa TV and the Palestinian Authority have been under fire since PMW reported last week that Tomorrow%u2019s Pioneers was using a character named Farfur, a knockoff of Disney%u2019s Mickey Mouse character, to convey messages about Islamic supremacy as well as hatred of Jews, Israel and the U.S. Despite public statements by PA Minister of Information Mustafa Barghouti that the show would be taken off the air until it could be reviewed and revised, a new episode of the program %u2013 featuring Al-Sha%u2019arawi as one of the hosts %u2013 ran Friday.
http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_may2007.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S995NCeaUg

[itchyb-2009]

mjlewis6 - Great idea, we'll get 'em all. How big a draft do you think it might take, and who died and left the U.S. the policment of the world?

"From SATP.ORG: The Al Qaeda is reported to have a global reach, and the countries where it maintains a presence include Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Syria, Xinjiang in China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mindanao in the Philippines, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, Tunisia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Dagestan, Jammu and Kashmri, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Uganda, Ethiopia, as also in parts of the West Bank and Gaza."

This might take a while. In the meantime, get real.

[itchyb-2009]

mjlewis6 - Great idea, we'll get 'em all. How big a draft do you think it might take, and who died and left the U.S. the policment of the world?

"From SATP.ORG: The Al Qaeda is reported to have a global reach, and the countries where it maintains a presence include Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Syria, Xinjiang in China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mindanao in the Philippines, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, Tunisia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Dagestan, Jammu and Kashmri, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Uganda, Ethiopia, as also in parts of the West Bank and Gaza."

This might take a while. In the meantime, get real.

[waganupa]

Finally, some sense from a sensless administration. There is so much we are not told and worse, from reading the comments, it becomes painfully obvious, that there are many people who base their entire intellectual life on one sided propaganda machines like Fox news who continue cranking out the fear, uncertanty, and doubt that feeds the hungry uninfomed public. Sad - no terrifying. We are on the brink of becoming the most hated nation in the world because of our doublespeaking politicians, our closed minded ethnocentric way of thinking, and our blatant disregard for the environment. Hopefully, our highest court, the keepers of the most sacred part of our government - law and order - will be able to provide justice that the rest of the world will be able to understand; because like it or not folks, we have to live with the other six billion plus people on this planet and we'd *** well learn that fast.

[lars008-2009]

fascist nazi islam has stayed the course for 1400 years....

the religion of peace... hahahahaha

the war Muhammad ali baba started rages on 1400 years later...
623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-'Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa'
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
http://www.carm.org/islam/islam_chrono
logy.htm

[searingtruth]

"Republicans are in a unique historical position. They are the first group of people raised on this land, who call themselves Americans, that openly proclaim the virtues of torture, secret prisons, extra judicial abduction, universal surveillance, and dictatorial government."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[pepperp1]

Oh the suspense is killing me, ya think Rob boy and his side kicks, dopey, sleazy, and wimpy even have the depth to rule on these cases, I can here the argument now just say no to terrorism, we agree with the Shrub and the Shrub assistant.

[itchyb-2009]

lars, why not take a look at the wars and atrocities which have taken place for centuries in the name of christianity? List them in chronological order, please, and don't leave anything out. thanks.

[pwrslm]

The prisoners are screwed.

Its in the interest of national security that many of them remain in custody as enemy combatants.

The Supreme Court should never hear a case when

[space_poet]

the Constitution was designed by and for the people of the United states. - posted by secundus2

We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men are created equal...

Read that in some damned piece of paper somewhere...

[searingtruth]

"The prisoners are screwed.

Its in the interest of national security that many of them remain in custody as enemy combatants. ..."
pwrslm


Hmmm ....

I'm curious.

What makes you think any of these anonymous prisoners, illegally abducted and secretly held without charge or representation, are a threat to our national security, or have committed any crimes whatsoever?

Because Bush says so?

Because Stalin says so?

Because Mao says so?

Because Hitler says so?

That's what I thought.

Sheesh. Pretending like Americans just accept the word of a dictator that someone is guilty and then throw them in a dark whole forever, or simply murder them.

What do you think we are, simple good old fashioned Nazis?

Our founding fathers would be very, very, ashamed of you.
ST


"Some claim that freedom makes our country less secure."
SearingTruth

"It's not a war on terror gone wrong, it's a war on American liberty gone right."
SearingTruth

"Their inhumanity was confirmed by their ignorance of humanity itself."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[lars008-2009]

IT IS TIME TO DEFEAT FASCIST NAZI ISLAM ONCE AND FOR ALL%u2026

In 1786, Thomas Jefferson, then U.S. ambassador to France, and John Adams, then American Ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the Dey%u2019s ambassador to Britain, in an attempt to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress%u2019 vote of funding. To Congress, these two future presidents later reported the reasons for the Muslims%u2019 hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

%u2026that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.

Sound familiar?

Thomas Jefferson and James Madison defeated the fascist nazi muslims 200 years ago
And again 100 years ago with Theodore Roosevelt
Tunisia in 1881 by France and Libya in 1911 by Italy. By then most of the Islamic world was under Christian domination. With the Ottoman Empire defeated in WW1, secularist Turkish rebels in 1923 overthrew the last Islamic Caliphate,
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[tuckerndfw]

When did congress declare war?

And, on whom they did issue that declaration?

The president and congress blathering on about "being at war" does not constitute being at war. According to that lame definition, welfare recipients and drug dealers/users have no constitutional rights.

The US has been "at war" on poverty and drugs for over thirty years. Technically, if the USSC upholds the idiotic determination that the president or congress can arbitrarily suspend constitutional rights, drug dealers/users and poor people have no constitutional rights.

Which, given their support for fascism, would not be surprising.

[searingtruth]

"IT IS TIME TO DEFEAT FASCIST NAZI ISLAM ONCE AND FOR ALL%u2026"
lars008


OK, we get it. You hate Muslims and want them all dead.

But back to the topic at hand. What makes you think any of these anonymous prisoners, illegally abducted and secretly held without charge or representation, are the Muslims you are so racist against, a threat to our national security, or have committed any crimes whatsoever?

Because Bush says so?

Because Stalin says so?

Because Mao says so?

Because Hitler says so?

I guess the word of any good old fashioned dictator is good enough for you.

But not for us Americans.

We believe in that piece of paper that Bush and Cheney have been using for toilet paper for the last six years, The Constitution of the United States of America. And all the rule of law it embraces and upholds.

It's an American thing.
ST


"My simple request was justice."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[lars008-2009]

there is no peace with fascist nazi islam%u2026.. there never has been in it%u2019s 1400 year existence%u2026

dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone....

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses.....

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
muslim justifies slavery and piracy%u2026
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7

[pwrslm]

OK, we get it. You hate Muslims and want them all dead.
Posted by SearingTruth

BOY oh BOY

did you blow it

its the muslims that want everyone else dead!!

pay attention boy!!

[oakishpines]

' ... i went to a girl's house and said let's go hunting, and she replied: instead let's garden ... i went to a soldiers house and said let's go hunting, and that girl replied: surely let's, that will be fun ... '

i wonder tho, wut forms of gardening we'll soon find irrational ... for instance: weed killet in one hand and weed super fertilizet in the other as a form of etch-a-sketch

i noticed recently reading some old anthology of poems how cruel the few about the ugly of age and the beauty of outh appeard

if one day soon evolution will succeed defending even the weakest, weak plants and microbes and molecules as well as creatures, and even the dust spends all day getting wishes come true by way of 'eternal storyboards' or 'pc construction wombs' or something,

then, is it more likely earth will beild eternity, or more likely eternity built earth?

i saw an old picture recently of a fallen home on the shore after a storm and in the foreground, a patch of green growth and it made me wonder if anyone builds homes not by tearing down trees to create stable structures, but by stabilizing trees to create stable structures?

where do i find a hundred billion billion new medical you are here map songs and dances and arts and crafts and skits and kits per day? i'm still searching

[pwrslm]

We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men are created equal...

Read that in some damned piece of paper somewhere...
Posted by Space_Poet

and that means that all al Queda losers should stay in Jail!!

The truth is self evident.

[tuckerndfw]

The Zionist trolls who vandalize these message boards demonstrate they are no different than Muslim extremists.

Zionism is as much a threat to the world as any other form of religion inspired extremism.

Zionism is terrorism.

[pwrslm]

"My simple request was justice."
SearingTruth


how can you contradict your self and betray your county like this? You deny one of the most steadfast facts in that Islamic History itself teaches us that there can be no peace with muslims, and then turn around and promote a lie about our own government?

so pathetic

[pwrslm]

when you are on your knees in front of one of these orthodox Imams that islam generates, and he denounces you for your sins against allah, the moon god of mohammads father, and cuts off your head because you are an infidel, do you think it will be too late to fight the muslim influence in this country.....


on the flip flop

winners will never be losers, just like loser never win

[searingtruth]

"OK, we get it. You hate Muslims and want them all dead.
Posted by SearingTruth

BOY oh BOY
did you blow it
its the muslims that want everyone else dead!!
pay attention boy!!"
pwrslm


Boy oh boy, did you miss the irony, so I'll try to make it simpler.

There are always a small minority of people, in any group, religious or not, that want to kill everyone else, for some unfathomable reason.

Ironically, their usual justification is that there is a small minority of people in another group that think the same way they do, and want to kill all of them.

I hope that was simple enough for you.

Now, back to the topic at hand.

You never answered what makes you think any of the anonymous prisoners, illegally abducted and secretly held without charge or representation, are a threat to our national security, or have committed any crimes whatsoever?

Is it because Bush says so?

Because Stalin says so?

Because Mao says so?

Because Hitler says so?

I just can't wait to hear the obfuscated answer.
ST


"I love my fuhrer. If he wants to break the law, that%u2019s OK. He is the law."
1942, Warsaw Ghetto, Unknown German Citizen, Observing a decomposing mass

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[donnie900]

"Deetainees".. unbelievable. Is that the new fancy word'a the bush spin team? Huh? Deetainees?

"A deetainee isn't like a convict. No.. We feed'em. We give'em a book'a wership. We treat them like princes."

They're standard Republican bad guys. Done nothing, and in prison for it.

They probably even liked Bush's campaign platform! "Faith based"!

[donnie900]

"Oh sorry Bush. We believed ya."

[xzavierbrown]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 02:51 PM : Jun 29, 2007
+ report abuse

**********

if you would stop taking your 'news' from comedy central then you would realize who and what we are fighting. Since day one it was made clear that we are at war...WITH RADICAL ISLAM..it is that perverted concept of islam that we need to deal with because it feeds its followers the fuel to kill people.

********
According to that lame definition, welfare recipients and drug dealers/users have no constitutional rights.

again, stop getting your news from Al Franken..you should get some tips from Nifong when you get a biiiiittt to over zealous with that nonesense.

Now about poverty and war on drugs for 30 years..well why dont we get an update on how much money and publicity these liberals gained since they started the "lets save the world" scam. now the war on drugs..reference your rant about dealers/users having no rights..we are gaining zero grounds because THEY HAVE MORE RIGHTS than the rest of society and cannot be easliy swayed away from drugs or hindred in supplying us with drugs..hell those NON AMERICAN mexican cartels has more ALCU clout that AMERICANS.

[donnie900]

You didn't know? Mr. Muslim? That it was just spin they were talking about? Huh? You didn't know that they hire people? Speech writers? "Political geniuses" like Karl Rove? To appeal to the religious senses of the public?

You thought it wasn't fake? Holy macaronni. You should be locked up, pal.

Barbara Bush: "They should consider themselves lucky! They probably never ate so good!"

[donnie900]

You have to understand politics, Mr. Muslim. Most of whats said up there on the pulpit ain't true. Most of it is just some fancy talk. Because, during elections people spaz out, see. And people like the Bush's know that. So they hire these people that know EXACTLY what to say. That know EXACTLY how to say it. God's tongues.. Really CEOs. Trying to sell ya a piece'a shyyt.

[lars008-2009]

NONE OF US IS FREE UNLESS ALL ARE FREE!!!

WHY IS IT NOT ONE MUSLIM COUNTRY GRANTS EQUAL RIGHTS TO NON MUSLIMS???

FASCIST NAZI ISLAM SAYS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATES ISLAM LAW...

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

http://www.un.org/terrorism/
http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
http://www.un.org/

But the accepted assumption in India is that most of India's Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).
http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm

[donnie900]

The eevangelical movement is better than yer madrassas, Mr. Muslim. Cuz we gots de better handle on things. Cuz we gots de will'a de people. *wink wink*

[donnie900]

Thats why the whole world is on our side, see. And not on yer's, Mr. Muslim.

Thats why Bush is signing contracts with hollywood to be a movie star after he gits outta de whitehouse. Deyz gonna make him a John Wayne! See.. wit a white collar. "Praise Jesus!" He's gonna say, shoot'n people, every bullet cost'n a million dollars.

Gonna be a hellofa movie.

[j-whitman]

Move the detainees to Bush's Ranch then shut GITMO down -- It hurt our national security when it was created.

[pepperp1]

of Roberts and Alito one reviewer wrote: Their decisions have come to be marked by an alarming lack of respect for precedent, irreverence for the democratic process, and disregard for constitutional history. SOUND FAMILIAR... just when the lame duck quacked....

[donnie900]

You should know politics, Mr. Muslim. Most of whats said up der ain't true. They just make it up so as to look good long enough to get the votes.

Nah.. If you really want truth around here, best go to Church.

[donnie900]

If you really want effectiveness and leadership and sincere and genuine representation, best go to yer local religious facility. And pray.. Cuz we'z separate church and state 'round here. We'z separate truth and justice..