BAGHDAD, June 29, 2007
5 U.S. Soldiers Killed In Iraq Attack
Attack Climaxes Deadliest 3-Month Period For Americans Since The Iraq War Began
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The soldiers were on a combat patrol when a roadside bomb exploded near them on Thursday, the military said in a statement. Shortly after the blast, insurgents attacked with small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades, it said.
All seven wounded soldiers were evacuated to a military hospital, and one has since returned to duty, the military said. The victims' names were withheld pending family notification.
The deaths brought to 99 the number of U.S. troops who have died in Iraq this month, according to an Associated Press count. The toll for the past three months — 329 — made it the deadliest quarter for U.S. troops in Iraq since the war began in March 2003.
At least 3,576 members of the U.S. military have died since then, according to AP figures. The number includes seven military civilians. At least 2,936 died as a result of hostile action, according to the military's numbers.
In other developments:
Meanwhile, radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr postponed a Shiite march to a bombed shrine north of Baghdad that was scheduled for July 5, an aide said.
"Muqtada al-Sadr has decided to postpone the march to Samarra for several reasons, including the government's inability to secure the route and many officials' appeals for a postponement," said Sheik Asad Al-Nassiri, an aide to the cleric. He made the announcement during a Friday sermon in nearby Kufa.
Sunni organizations and government officials had urged al-Sadr to cancel the march to the Askariya shrine in Samarra, which was bombed for a second time earlier this month, fearing it would escalate sectarian violence that already has claimed thousands of lives.
Al-Sadr had said the march was aimed at bringing Shiites and Sunnis closer together and breaking down the barriers imposed by the Americans and Sunni religious extremists.
Also Friday, the British military issued a statement saying all of its bases came under attack from mortars or rockets in the past 24 hours, but there were no casualties or damage.
Britain maintains a force of about 5,500 troops based mainly on the fringes of Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, 340 miles southeast of Baghdad.
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See all 103 Commentsmost folk most days do not need the parades in their name, so they instead parade in the names of those who the that need today
We're very sorry.
We thought Iraq wasn't a threat. When those truckloads of quality, ready-to-go WMDs were found all over the country, we felt as if we were totally wrong. We thought that the war would take longer than six months. When it all ended 4 years ago and the violence subsided, it took months to figure out why we were so wrong. When Rummy referred to the deadenders and denied there was an insurgency for 6 months, we mistakenly thought he wasn't right. He was spot on. Sorry about that.
When Cheney said he thought the insurgency was in it's last throes over 2 years ago, we snickered and thought he was delusional. Boy did we have our butt handed to us on that one. How could Cheney have been so right where we were so wrong? When we "broke the back of the insurgency", only the liberals couldn't see that fact for what it was. When surge 1.0 took place last year, we had doubts. Once again, you guys were totally accurate and we completely missed it on our prediction. Now, when you say that this surge will work, who the hell are we to even think of arguing? Your track record is beyond reproach. It's tough being wrong all the time. Please have pity on us.
For what? What did these American's die for? No WMD's! No connection to 9/11! Because we were afraid and allowed two very evil men to USE that fear to do what they did, we should be ashamed. We must also learn from it... we must never again allow fear to take over our better judgement or allow others to use that fear as Rove did.
For what? What did these American's die for? No WMD's! No connection to 9/11! Because we were afraid and allowed two very evil men to USE that fear to do what they did, we should be ashamed. We must also learn from it... we must never again allow fear to take over our better judgement or allow others to use that fear as Rove did.
Posted by MCVet at 08:16 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Answer:
Oil fix through force, no difference then if China invaded Alaska killed a couple hundred thousand of the citizens and then gave control of the pipeline to a China oil company. And we the American people let those 2 mental midgets do this in our name.
On a positive note, all those millions that Mitch McConnell appropriated for the celebration in Washington can now be used to help treat those maimed and wounded. Bush and Cheney will leave office in 2009, but if we dont elect senators and representatives that think this war is a mistake and are willing to start to disengage, we will be faced with more of this lunacy. I urge everyone to look for good republicans and good democrats that will commit to ending this debacle and vote those folks into office 08.
The last administration failed to respond to the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993; that cut and ran when al-Qaeda ambushed US Army Rangers in Mogadishu; that called for regime change in Iraq when Saddam expelled the UN weapons inspectors but then failed to remove Saddam or to get him to allow the UN inspectors back in; that failed to respond to the murder of US troops in Saudi Arabia or the attack on an American warship in Yemen; that reacted to the blowing up two US embassies in Africa by firing missiles at an aspirin factory in the Sudan and empty tents in Afghanistan; that refused to kill or capture Osama Bin Laden when it had a dozen chances to do so; and that did not put in place simple airport security measures, its own task force recommended, that would have prevented 9/11.
Effectively, the only thing notable about the USA in the prior decade before GW got there, was that America was a coward. When we actually go in, and get our feet on the ground, and our hands dirty, doing a job that should have been done in the 90s, you folks cry about how disgraceful GW is for doing what had to be done. There is no reality or substance to your complaints, because they are all based on the cowardice that brought Clinton to office, the same Democrapy party that has the yellow streak up its back.
Funny, facts reveal alot. Like the Fact that regime change was brought up by Clinton, in 1996, but Clinton and the Democraps did not have the fortitude, nor the moral backbone, to do it. Our intelligence agencies told Clinton we needed to get in and do it, but the story goes, he chose the cowards path, and put it on the next presidency, making it manyfold times more difficult.
Posted by pwrslm at 09:51 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Please provide an exact quote and link.
All of these conditions existed under the Clinton Administration. The Democrapy party did not have the courage to stand up and be the world leader, and instead, let the US image drift into mediocricy.
The true reason all of these soldiers are dying over in Iraq is because we are not going to play the cowardly role, again, like the Clinton Administration. The reason so many died, was because of the substantial delay in our actions. Combining the WTC attacks, with the Iraq action, only invited the terrorists to enter into the Iraq resistance. The only thing we can do, is to fight them. After WWII, Germans fought a terrorist action against allied troops. We fought them and won. We will win this one too.
Please provide an exact quote and link.
Posted by roger_inkart
fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/19708.pdf
The goal of regime
change in Iraq had been declared U.S. policy since November 1998, and U.S. efforts
to oust Saddam had been pursued, with varying degrees of intensity, since the end of
the Gulf war in 1991.
Posted by pwrslm at 09:51 AM : Jun 29, 2007
"As the story goes?" As the right-wing talking points go more like. You are a liar and a distorter. And you don't fool me.
It is amazing that anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature can make even feeble attempts like this to blame everyone else (especially Clinton of course) for the mess in Iraq. The nation knows who to blame.
What a bunch of irresponsible cowards you all are.
The orders to persecute this war are unlawful, enforced only by the dogs of the usurpers. There is no declaration as demanded by the Constitution for this dishonest war.
The enemy is in Washington! Come home!
Please, bring our men back home.
"Turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. ... including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf." %u2014 January, 1998.
Signed by the following members of the Bush Administration:
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Bolton, Abrams, Armitage, and Woolsey
(Please note the date.)
Clinton was first? Hardly.
Posted by roger_inkart at
I really dont care what flavor of a mental midget you are. All that matters is that you have absolutely no business spreading the lies and politicizing the issues using lies like your beloved liberals are doing. Social experiments like that are directly related to historical events, like Nazi Germany. I dont play that game, I posted facts, which far more than you have done....
You cant dispute my posts, so your yellow streak leads you to insult me. Thats the way of the coward. It not me, its the facts you cannot overcome that devestate the illusion you are living.
Posted by pwrslm at 09:51 AM : Jun 29, 2007
1996? But then you respond with a quote:
"...regime change in Iraq had been declared U.S. policy since November 1998,"
Wait a moment. Did Clinton have a time machine? How did he know in 1996 that in 1998 regime change in Iraq would become declared US policy?
Or are you just an idiot and/or a liar?
Posted by roger_inkart
Like I said, you are a mental midget. Google must be too complex for you to navigate, or you would find that every I posted is factually true.
Go ahead, cleave to your lies. Thats what makes it so easy to prove my point.
You are a mental midget. You can not compete.
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Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)
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H.R.4655
One Hundred Fifth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE SECOND SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,
the twenty-seventh day of January, one thousand nine hundred and ninety-eight
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.R.4655.ENR:
Posted by pwrslm at 10:10 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Right. You go take a look in the mirror before you start slinging this kind of mud. I've proven you a liar with you own posts.
Richard Perle - chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. Chief architect of the Iraq war.
Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Defense Secretary, dethroned World Bank head and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Chief architect of the Iraq war.
Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. Feith is a pro-Israel extremist and is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America. Chief architect of the Iraq war.
Kenneth Adelman - sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Chief architect of the Iraq war.
I. Lewis Scooter Libby - Vice President Dikk Cheney's Chief of Staff. The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney.
Elliott Abrams - National Security Council Advisor. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration.
Robert Zoellick - our new World Bank leader and one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Zionists in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq.
David Frum - White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.
Posted by pwrslm at 10:14 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Right. I'm still waiting for that quote from 1996.
Posted by roger_inkart at
you are so funny
you act like you actually know something, but you are willfuly ignorant
thats the only notable trait you have shown here
if there were actually a correlation between your words calling me a liar, and my posts linking legislation proving what I stated, its that you are nothing more than a pond scum suckinng two faced wanna be that doesnt have the intelligence to get there
in other words, congress passed the law, the senate passed the law, and the president passed the law, for Iraq regime change, resulting from the 1996 expulsion of the UN inspectors by Saddam, and you just can stand to be wrong so you call me the liar????
i cant even pity you
you are related to the trash
Bush said it?
WHO CARES! THE REGIME IS CHANGED! He's DEAD!!
"Boy this is FUN! It's like shooting fish in a barrell!!". (WE are the fish.)
Posted by pwrslm at 10:10 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Ok, yet only a few posts later we have this:
"...its that you are nothing more than a pond scum suckinng two faced wanna be that doesnt have the intelligence to get there."
and
"you are related to the trash."
Ah, good times. So, in other words you don't have a quote from Clinton in 1996 regarding regime change in Iraq, nor do you have any proof that what you said was true, despite your feverish defense of it. You are wrong at best, a liar at worst.
It was nice seeing you tie youself all up in knots thought. Perhaps in the future you'll check your facts before admonishing others.
Believing you know the truth and knowing the truth are not the same thing. I hope you learned something here today.
Posted by drummer94 at 10:43 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Criticism accepted.
Posted by roger_inkart
Funny how you ignore the big picture, which I have proven beyond any doubt, to nitpick a small hair that is not even consequential.
Thats what mental midgets normally do. You call me stupid, idiotic, and a host of other insults, but you still cant find Google, let alone, demonstrate the capacity to research this on your own.
In early 1996, President Clinton signed a secret directive authorizing a covert CIA operation to unseat Saddam Hussein. .... In America's largest covert operation since the successful CIA campaign against the Soviets in Afghanistan, Deutch personally promised the effort would succeed "within a year."
........
First, the CIA attempt to infiltrate the Republican Guard was uncovered. Reminiscent of the "exploding cigar" fiascoes targeting Fidel Castro in the early 1960s, one of the missions that Clinton approved was to plant a small bomb in one of Saddam Hussein's palaces. It went off, but not while Saddam Hussein was there. The fact that the bomb at least detonated was the only success of the infiltration. Through late June and early July 1996, Iraqi security forces systematically exposed every one of the U.S.-backed officers and agents in the ranks of the Republican Guard.
.........
"It was basically wiped out...a lot of [Iraqi] U.S. agents were killed," the Los Angeles Times quoted an unnamed intelligence source as concluding.
Posted by usadvisor101
i realize that this is the best you have to offer
your best day, and your best shot, makes roger_inkart look like a pro
and he is a mental midget
I.E.D.!
FIVE MORE SOLDIERS
KILLED BY ME!
YAAAAAAY SUNNIS!
It is a permanent badge of shame that the Clinton Administration has left the United States with.
Posted by pwrslm at 10:47 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Ok, that's probably about as close as I'll get to you admitting you were wrong. Fair enough.
The reality is that the "Big Picture" is not whatever Clinton may have said years ago and when he said it.
What matters is who got us there, how they got us there, and - as it's been pointed out - how to get us out of there. If you want to talk about "Big Pictures" let's talk about that. Attempts to draw Clinton into the debate are pointless and irresponsible.
He has illegally, immorally and unilaterally invaded a country that originally had no ties to terrorism. Now, yes, there are many terrorism threats as Iraq is an international terrorist congregation point.
I served in Iraq and spoke with hundreds of US and "Coalition" military members. I guarantee you there was no one who agreed with our/their presence in Iraq.
When was the last time you heard the media refer to "the Coalition?"
Who are the terrorists in Iraq? What the hell has Bush gotten us into? Where's the plan to get out of this quagmire?
Is there a poll of parents of the dead, injured or missing as to their support for this war?
Posted by pwrslm at 10:58 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Strange wordings. In fact all your posts are oddly worded.
Can I ask where you're from? The manner in which you speak and they words you choose leads me to believe you are either:
1. A naturalized US citizen
2. Not an US Citizen.
You don't use any contractions that I can see, and your use of slang is forced and awkward which leads me to believe you are not a native english speaker.
It's ok, I don't care where you're from really. But as a born-in-the USA flesh and blood American, I don't appreciate being lectured by someone from another country about what my nation is and what it stands for.
The 'Saddam Problem' is not a party problem, it is a systemic problem and illustrates what is wrong with a foreign policy that puts oil and Israel above what is good for America.
It was Albright who refused the offer of Sudan to turn over OBL...It was Bush who ordered the FBI off the trail of OBL's family in America with threats of arest. The Stupid People's War was a bipartisan affair. The Senate Intelligence Committee passed on the obviously bogus case against Iraq....no one is bragging about that now.
Posted by roger_inkart
Im far more american that you ever will be, or know. If you think lying is an "american" thing to do, then thats all the proof I need.
And usaadvisor, you demonstrate an astounding lack of knowledge in your rebuttal, you need to research the "werewolves" resistance movement in germany, who were active until the 1960s. By the way, gratz on another lame post....
Posted by pwrslm at 11:15 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Nah, you're not actually. I know how Americans talk, and I know how Americans write. You know neither.
You even got the attempts at a contraction wrong in this post: "Im" rather than "T'm" and "thats" rather than "that's" Most Americans would note that the "a" in "America" should always be capitalized.
You are a fraud.
No one but them believes it but they keep trying to sow the seed of doubt the problem with that though is you can't have so many that are angry that is why no one is listening.
Posted by roger_inkart
Judging by the other things that you "know", I can take solace in the fact that what you think you "know" doesnt amount to a hill of beans in reality.
Posted by pwrslm at 11:24 AM : Jun 29, 2007
Whatever doode, I got you pegged. You're not a native American citizen - it's that simple. Your posts say alot more than just lame right-wing talking points cribbed from the RNC and other conservative websites.
How's the weather where you are? Are you even IN the US?
www.911revisited.com
if 9/11 is continually invoked as the reason for this global madness, then Americans should demand answers to the following questions:
1) why did WTC7 fall? WTC lease holder Larry Silverstein admitted to having the building "pulled" (slang for demolished) - only problem is that it takes weeks at best to prepare a building for demolition. Why did the 9/11 commission fail to even mention the collapse of WTC7-why isn%u2019t it shown on TV? OBVIOUS DEMOLITION!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QV6LK8j1Q
2) how could the twin towers fall at free fall speeds if we are to believe the "pancake" theory? The buildings fell in 9 seconds! If floors were collapsing into the ones below them there would be slight delay before the lower floor gives. If it were a half a second at each floor that would still be nearly 50 seconds - huge steel beams were being ejected hundreds of feet HORIZONTALLY, concrete was pulverized into fine dust, SQUIBS (well-placed charges) are exploding outward up to 20 floors below the collapse wave. All characteristics of a controlled demolition not collapse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDt3mVlI8mk
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The city of Baghdad?
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