20 Bodies Found, Iraq Blast Kills 22 More

Beheaded Men Found On Banks Of Tigris, Car Bomb Tears Through Crowded Baghdad Bus Station

(CBS/AP)  A parked car bomb exploded in one of Baghdad's busy outdoor bus stations at rush hour Thursday, killing at least 22 people, and 20 beheaded bodies were found on the banks of the Tigris River southeast of the capital, two Iraqi police officers said.

The blast hit a crowded hub in southwest Baghdad's Baiyaa neighborhood, a police officer said on condition of anonymity because of security concerns. At least 52 people were wounded, police and hospital officials said.

Two Iraqi police officers, one from Baghdad and one based in Kut, 100 miles southeast of the capital, said the bodies of 20 people had been found — all men aged 20 to 40 years old — with their hands and legs bound, and some of the heads were found next to the bodies, the officers said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information.

The bodies were found in the Sunni Muslim village of Um al-Abeed, near the city of Salman Pak, which lies 14 miles southeast of Baghdad.

The Baghdad officer said he learned of the discovery because Iraq's Interior Ministry, where he works, sent troops to the village to investigate. The Kut officer said he first heard the report through residents of the Salman Pak area.

Sporadic clashes had been under way in the Salman Pak area for several days, between Interior Ministry commandos and suspected insurgents, the Kut officer said. It was unclear whether the discovery of the bodies was related to the recent fighting.

Salman Pak and its surrounding area has been the focus of new U.S. military operations to oust suspected al Qaeda fighters from the Baghdad's outskirts. American forces launched a drive into Salman Pak and neighboring Arab Jabour two weeks ago.

At the time, ground forces commander Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno said U.S. troops were heading into those areas in force for the first time in three years.

Many of the victims of the Baghdad bus stop blast had been lining up, waiting for a ride to work. Some 40 minibuses were incinerated in the explosion, police said.

Associated Press Television News video showed an open square at least 50 yards wide, strewn with smoldering car parts and charred bodies with clothes in tatters. Bystanders, some weeping, gingerly loaded human remains into ambulances.

In other developments:

Three mortar rounds slammed into a popular shopping district in central Baghdad Thursday, killing three pedestrians, police said. The attack damaged shops in the Shorja market area and wounded 14 people, an officer said on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to talk to media. It was unclear whether the mortars were aimed at the shopping area, or whether they fell short of an intended target.

In Nasiriyah, about 200 miles southeast of Baghdad, local police said two suspected militants were killed early Thursday morning when the bomb they were planting near a house of a U.S. translator detonated prematurely.

With debate intensifying in Washington about when to bring home U.S. troops in Iraq, the Baker-Hamilton Commission that called for all troops to be out by next spring may go back to work, reports CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod (read more).

President Bush is sending a top aide to Capitol Hill Thursday to confront rising GOP frustration with the Iraq war. He's trying to head off more Republican defections. National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley will meet with Indiana's Richard Lugar, one of two Republican senators who this week declared that the president's troop surge isn't working.

Thursday's bus station attack came just hours after a late night bombing near a major Shiite shrine in the Kazimiyah district of northern Baghdad. At least 14 people were killed and 22 wounded in the attack, which also employed a parked car bomb, police said.

The British military said Thursday that three British soldiers were killed in a roadside bomb in southern Iraq. The bomb exploded near the soldiers' vehicle late Wednesday southeast of Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, the military said in a statement. Another soldier was wounded in the blast and remains in stable condition at a military hospital, it said.

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by mcvet June 28, 2007 6:01 AM PDT

Have all you Southern Fascist and Neocon's had enought "Giving" what you never believed in and do not understand to others yet? ROFLMAO What in this world were the people of this nation thinking when they elected these MORON's in the first place. Can ANYONE name one, just ONE, of them that have EVER been out front in developing American Rights. People who have ignored our laws and trashed our Constitution have gotten the Butt Whoopin of the Century trying to give that system to others. I wonder why??? Sieg Heil Y'all.

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by antoniof123 June 28, 2007 7:33 AM PDT

I am from the South born in Florida and I was against this stupid war, but when most of America said we go I accepted the will of the majority and also the names that you fascists called me now I am sick and tired of you the neo con party. Never again I will I vote for a neo con or any member of that party. The will of America is being denied by a few it is time to put a stop to this madness. I don't care what the neo con Senators say now or do they will never get a vote from me. No more you neo cons don't play nice now I will do what ever is needed to make sure your ilk is removed from our government.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 7:40 AM PDT

Bring the troops home so they can do their duty: protect America.

Nothing in the Constitution authorizes Bush to act like some half-a*ssed Knight-Errant, spreading democracy around all the dark and violent backwaters of the world. If that is his heart's desire, let him employ his own private force of contractors to do it, and pay for it himself -- not hijack American troops and American taxpayers to fulfill his private Marvel Comics fantasies.

The American troops are not being successful in the mission of protecting Iraqis and establishing democracy. No one could be, at this point in history. Even a coalition of Muslim troops could not restore order there, mush less a force of Westerners, predominatly white and Christian.

No one has ever yet put out a fire by dousing it with gasoline, and George W. Bush will not be the first to do so.

Bring the troops home.

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by itchyb-2009 June 28, 2007 7:44 AM PDT

On Oct. 3, 2000, candidate Bush lectured Vice President Gore about his views on nation-building:

"The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops," he snorted. "He believes in nation-building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation-builders."

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 7:46 AM PDT

"What is important is that Iraqis are now addressing these issues through debate and discussion, not at the barrel of a gun. The establishment of a democratic constitution in Iraq, just like the establishment of a constitution in Afghanistan last year, will be a landmark event in the history of the broader Middle East." - George W. Bush, two years ago.

George W. Bush is an utter fool.

He has blood on his hands.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 7:53 AM PDT

It required only Friday evening quarterbacking, and 20-20 foresight, to anticipate this mess in Iraq.

The Elder Bush did so clearly:

"Whose life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we're going to show our macho? We're going into Baghdad. We're going to be an occupying power - America in an Arab land - with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous.

We don't [gauge] the size of our victory by how many innocent kids running away - even though they're bad guys - that we can slaughter... We're American soldiers; we don't do business that way."

- Forner president George H. W. Bush, to a reunion of Gulf War veterans, February 28, 1999.

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by ubrew12 June 28, 2007 7:56 AM PDT

Gee, 20 blown up and 20 decapitated.

In other news, Paris Hilton reports that she's 'been through alot'.

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by rafterman1 June 28, 2007 8:08 AM PDT

...Another fine day in the Republic of Iraq.

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by rjstolba June 28, 2007 8:13 AM PDT

And THIS is why we send our brave, young men to the slaughter for???????

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by drummer94 June 28, 2007 8:23 AM PDT

I love the smell of beheaded bodies in the morning-smells like...victory. Sorry, I do not mean to make light of this,this, man I can't think of a description strong enough to type. That loony-toon in the white house has thouroughly screwed up that country. Now that the repubs are sliming away from supporting this fiasco we can get our troops home and let that country do what was inevitable once Sadam was taken out-civil war until THEY have had enough. Just like we did 130 some-odd years ago.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 8:28 AM PDT

Nothing fails like failure.

More than one in three REPUBLICANS are now in the anti-war camp.

"A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Tuesday shows that 38 percent of respondents who identified themselves as Republicans say they oppose the war.

Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, is jumping straight to what he calls Plan "E" for "Exit."

"It's time for the United States to put together a comprehensive plan for gradual disengagement in Iraq," Voinovich said. "We're running out of time and I don't think it's fair to the next administration to say, 'Hey by the way, we're leaving this baby for you guys to figure out.'"

Source:

CNN: "Senators' dissent over Iraq might trigger a different surge"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/27/iraq.gop.dissent/index.html

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by rushlimpdrug June 28, 2007 8:29 AM PDT

there must be some holy writing somewhere that justifies this.
Musta' been done in the name of some God.

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by king77shaw June 28, 2007 8:41 AM PDT

let us not forget the following Zionists who put Israel%u2019s interests over the United States when crafting, promoting and implementing the Iraq War.

Richard Perle - chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Defense Secretary, dethroned World Bank head and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. Feith is a pro-Israel extremist and is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Kenneth Adelman - sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

I. Lewis Scooter Libby - Vice President Dikk Cheney's Chief of Staff. The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney.

Elliott Abrams - National Security Council Advisor. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration.

Robert Zoellick - our new World Bank leader and one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Zionists in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq.

David Frum - White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.

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by bluestardad June 28, 2007 8:48 AM PDT

SAFE AS SOME CITIES IN AMERICA, JOHN MCCAIN (R) ARIZONA

LIKE ANY MARKET PLACE IN INDIANA, MIKE PENCE (R) INDIANA


STEP AWAY FROM THE KOOL AID

ANYONE THAT VOTES REPUBLICAN SHOULD BE COMMITTED OR HAVE MARK FOLEY BRING THEM BREAKFAST!

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 9:04 AM PDT

"there must be some holy writing somewhere that justifies this. Musta' been done in the name of some God."
- Posted by rushlimpdrug at 08:29 AM : Jun 28, 2007

The BBC reports it.

"Former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."

And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."

Mr Abbas remembers how the US President told him he had a "moral and religious obligation" to act. The White House has refused to comment on what it terms a private conversation. But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given how throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith. "

Source:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm

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by smirk5 June 28, 2007 9:10 AM PDT

Remember this one Cons? You ate this one up too.

Friday, December 01, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq: Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday he believed Iraqi forces would be ready by June 2007 to take full control of security in Iraq, an issue on which he pressed President Bush during their meeting in Amman, Jordan.
"I can say that Iraqi forces will be ready, fully ready to receive this command and to command its own forces, and I can tell you that by next June our forces will be ready," al-Maliki said in an interview with ABC News.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,29
33,233178,00.html

You Cons know it's June, right?
Suckers.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 9:10 AM PDT

"God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did." - George W. Bush

Bush is acutely psychotic in the clinical sense of hearing voices. (As in, "The Word of the Lord came unto me, to drown my children in the bathtub.")

Surely the phrase "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" can be reasonably construed to include clinical psychosis, as the Founding Fathers would not have thought that madness was an insufficint reason to remove the Chief Executive from power.

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by juwboy June 28, 2007 9:15 AM PDT

How many Jews are there in the US?

2%

How many non-Jews?

98%

Although we're massively out-numbered, limp-wristed, purse-carrying, hip-swivelling, c@ck-s@cking Gentiles like king77shaw are totally shiite-scared of us!!!

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by goheels_15 June 28, 2007 9:21 AM PDT

i dont know why you people are making such a big fuss about radical muslims when that noted political scientist rosie o'donnell and her ilk have clearly told us that radical christianity is just as bad. i'm sure we are all on pins and needles worrying and fretting over the next car bomb that pat robertson will set off...right? i mean surely rosie and moveon.org and code pink and that crowd wouldnt try to deceive us and say something that wasnt true...would they? nahhhhhhh, sweet little ol rosie and those peaceful libs would neeeeeeevvvvvverrrrr do something like that. those innocent muslims were all just trying to live simple lives as goat herders until the mean ol' americans showed up right. shame on us for making them so radical. they have never been associated with violence till big bad cowboy bush started picking on them, right? hmmmmmmmm, i guess it was falwell and billy graham that have been blowing up those marine barracks and german disco's, right?

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 9:23 AM PDT

But Lauren Bacall married an Irishman.

Don't forget about that.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 9:27 AM PDT

"[Iraqis] have never been associated with violence till big bad cowboy bush started picking on them, right? hmmmmmmmm, i guess it was falwell and billy graham that have been blowing up those marine barracks and german disco's, right?"
- Posted by goheels_15 at 09:21 AM : Jun 28, 2007

They were never associated with democracy, or anything but tyrannical rule and brutal violence.

Then Bush showed up (showed up by proxy, I mean) with his BELIEFS and his BROMIDES.

"See, I believe people want to be free... People across the Middle East can look at Iraq and see what life in a free country is like."

Thanks to Dubya, they certainly can now.

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by drummer94 June 28, 2007 9:31 AM PDT

...three British soldiers were killed (by) a roadside bomb in southern Iraq." Want to wager how long it will be before those targets are gone?

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by bareemperor June 28, 2007 9:36 AM PDT

The Republicons have failed.

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by oakishpines June 28, 2007 9:43 AM PDT

a drug company kills off millions, but advertises the drugs that killoff more few, but meida outlets refuse paid advertisemtns from most as they are silly and dangersous while governments spend trillions creamming pills down fokls throtas and waving guns in folks faces and afforeding them no market share for their suffering even as they tax old widows for their retirements income while the old widows die sleeping with guns afraid to leave the house and afraid to stay in it and buying protection from god for the police are too busy to patrol and too busy to even show at the door to collectg the taxes becasue they it's more cheap to send a letter with a threat and meanwhile terror has never been more affordable as silly litttle microwaves and silly little macrowaves and silly little preprogrammed robots and silly little insects and silly little microbes abound all over and there's no end to the maximum wage get sick soon and no beginning to the minimum wage get well soon and its funny the pharoahs build educations and liabilities scarecely a pharoah can afford then stops off at the fast food place for a vegie burger from a general surgeon with no knowledge of feed the world wutsoever, just tax and tax and tax it

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by retiredinmex June 28, 2007 9:46 AM PDT

Is anyone as mad as me? What the hell is Bush doing still in office?

He has illegally, immorally and unilaterally invaded a country that originally had no ties to terrorism. Now, yes, there are many terrorism threats as Iraq is an international terrorist congregation point.

I served in Iraq and spoke with hundreds of US and "Coalition" military members. I guarantee you there was no one who agreed with our/their presence in Iraq.

When was the last time you heard the media refer to "the Coalition?"

Who are the terrorists in Iraq? What the hell has Bush gotten us into? Where's the plan to get out of this quagmire?

Is there a poll of parents of the dead, injured or missing as to their support for this war?

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by king77shaw June 28, 2007 9:47 AM PDT

let us not forget the following Zionists who put Israel%u2019s interests far above the United States when crafting, promoting and implementing the Iraq War.

Richard Perle - chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Defense Secretary, dethroned World Bank head and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. Feith is a pro-Israel extremist and is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Kenneth Adelman - sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

I. Lewis Scooter Libby - Vice President Dikk Cheney's Chief of Staff. The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney.

Elliott Abrams - National Security Council Advisor. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration.

Robert Zoellick - our new World Bank leader and one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Zionists in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq.

David Frum - White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.

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by king77shaw June 28, 2007 9:50 AM PDT

wow, General Odom calling out AIPAC (American-Israeli political action committee) by name as being one of the BIG driving forces behind the Iraq war - check out his recent interview ... a very intelligent assessment of the situation ... it is nice to know that our military has such great minds at the top - too bad we can't say the same for the civilian side of things ...

http://dissentradio.com/charles/awgenodom051007.mp3

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by brianbwb-2009 June 28, 2007 9:50 AM PDT

"God would tell me, 'George, go unto Congress, and tell thou a series of boldface lies to the American people, maketh the lies as excuse to loot the US treasury, thinkest not once of the blood of the innocent, as they are mine. Then shalt thou render the money unto thine personal friends' and by God, that's what I'm gonna do"

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by drummer94 June 28, 2007 9:52 AM PDT

oakishpines-cokeishhead? Take a breath.Sheesh

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by smirk5 June 28, 2007 9:55 AM PDT

The same administration that thinks this surge is working thought that the insurgents were in their last throes over 2 years ago.

Reality isn't their strong point.

Last Throes: Year 3

As they stand up, we'll have to stand up even more.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 10:00 AM PDT

"B T W ,is that qoute verbatim, by bush. iceman? I 've seen it before, but wondered if it was distorted. its obvious boy blunder is an idiot, but did he really say it that way. if so its gotta go in my top qoutes folder !!!"
- Posted by usadvisor101 at 09:35 AM : Jun 28, 2007

Would our friends at FoxNews make up a quote like that ?

"Friday, March 19, 2004
FoxNews

President Bush marked the one-year anniversary of the beginning of the U.S.-led war against Iraq with a White House speech. Following is a transcript of his remarks.

Bush: "Good morning and thanks for coming... And it is a good thing that the men and women across the Middle East, looking to Iraq, are getting a glimpse of what life in a free country can be like."

Source:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114668,00.html

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by nolalou June 28, 2007 10:15 AM PDT

This is truly an unpresidented disastar! The worse military / foreign policy decision ever made by a US President! (and yes, those in congress who voted for this mess share the blame, be they Democrat or Republican).

I saw on the CBS news last night that we spent something like 12 billion to train over 300 thousand Iraqi police and soldiers, and when asked, our commanders there said we could not account for where they are, how many have joined the insurgents, how many dead, how many may have quit their jobs or even left the country! We are loosing lives and wasting billions of dollars in this debacle!

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by clestes-2009 June 28, 2007 10:16 AM PDT

More progress towards democracy!!!!

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by bluestardad June 28, 2007 10:17 AM PDT

THOSE POLITICIANS WHO WONT SUPPORT CUTTING OFF FUNDING FOR THE WAR ARE BOUGHT BY THE ISRAELI LOBBY AIPAC, PNAC, AEI NEOCONS!

It is not anti Semitic to believe there are millions of other good people in the Middle East with valid concerns!

Even Eisenhower had problems with Israeli groups but he did not let them buy him!

READ AS THEY BRAG ABOUT THEIR INFLUENCE ON OUR GOVERNMENT!
http://www.aipac.org/forms/
join_aipacClubs.htm


Founded in 1953 by Isaiah L. "Si" Kenen, AIPAC's original name was the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs. According to UCLA political science professor and author, Steven Spiegel, "the tension between the Eisenhower administration and Israeli supporters was so acute that there were rumors that the administration would investigate the American Zionist Council. Therefore, an independent lobbying committee was formed, which years later was renamed [AIPAC]." Today, AIPAC has over 100,000 members.[1] Activities and stated goals
AIPAC's stated purpose is to lobby the Congress of the United States on issues and legislation "to ensure that the U.S.-Israel relationship is strong so that both countries can work together" to meet the challenges of "stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.. AIPAC has been effective in gaining support for Israel among members of Congress and White House administrations.
The New York Times described AIPAC on July 6, 1987 as "a major force in shaping United States policy in the Middle East."

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by smirk5 June 28, 2007 10:21 AM PDT

I bet most Cons here think this is just a continuation of last throes.

They'll believe anything.

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by rharrin1 June 28, 2007 10:23 AM PDT

Well after the news today ( june 28 2007 ) we should hear from more right wing conservative bible thumpers expressing their desire to flip flop.

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by smirk5 June 28, 2007 10:27 AM PDT

More facts occurred today in Iraq. It gives Cons just more to ignore.

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by prinzowhales June 28, 2007 10:53 AM PDT

Just more evidence that the 'surge' was a waste of time, blood and treasure. Its time for our soldiers to stop obeying illegal orders. Its time for them to come home.

When the facts of how they were betrayed by the leaders of this nation--on everything from 9-11 to the tall tales about Iran--I sincerely hope this rage will extend to those even now slinking away from Bush and the men behind him. If you are voting for any of the mainstream candidates in either Republican or Democratic party--you are voting for 'Bush' policies with a new face and improved grammar.

Americans! Stand with our soldiers when sanity returns and the Usurper and his monsters are finally brought to justice.

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by j-whitman June 28, 2007 11:04 AM PDT

20 headless bodies found, blast kills 20 more -- Progress,,,,, No bid contracts are up 43% over the prievious year.

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by toldyouso21 June 28, 2007 11:27 AM PDT

saw on the CBS news last night that we spent something like 12 billion to train over 300 thousand Iraqi police and soldiers, and when asked, our commanders there said we could not account for where they are, how many have joined the insurgents, how many dead, how many may have quit their jobs or even left the country! We are loosing lives and wasting billions of dollars in this debacle!
Posted by nolalou at 10:15 AM : Jun 28, 2007


the number was 19 BILLION dollars spent, not 12

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by toldyouso21 June 28, 2007 11:32 AM PDT

Since the revelation of Enron and then 9/11, then the March to war..re: the invasion, Gonzales, torture, wiretapping, Plame, curveball, yellowcake, Downing memo, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq, world opinion, Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, Java--in short for the past 7+ years.....


I TOLD YOU SO.

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by briannorwood June 28, 2007 11:34 AM PDT

Anyone notice... I haven't heard the phrase "cut and run" for awhile now.

Where have all the neocon supporters gone?

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by toldyouso21 June 28, 2007 11:40 AM PDT

they have never been associated with violence till big bad cowboy bush started picking on them, right? hmmmmmmmm, i guess it was falwell and billy graham that have been blowing up those marine barracks and german disco's, right?
Posted by goheels_15 at 09:21 AM : Jun 28, 2007

When people declare Christian rightees just as bad, they don't mean we blow up our own, though we might, if we were under occupation and felt like a lot of Americans were helping the enemy. What they mean is that Americans are quick to be self righteous and start wars--and their actions cause just as much death or more than the regimes they claim they have the right to topple.

Religion aside, this much is true--over a million people who were still alive and had managed to survive the horrors of Saddam have been murdered due to the actions of a foreign army and the vacuum the invasion of that army created. When a person is about to die or is maimed and lays dying--it really does not matter to them or their family if Saddam did it or the chaos or bombs caused by our acts did it--the result is the same: dead people. The difference is that Iraqis had learned how to manage and survive under Saddam and he was one of their own--now they are being slaughtered in a game with no rules and it is all the fault of foreign busybodies.

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by micma-2009 June 28, 2007 11:43 AM PDT

Every day Bush's "surge" looks more like his "stay the course" plan.

We need real leadership now.

If we have to impeach Bush and Cheney to do it then so be it.

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 12:03 PM PDT

It isn't all bad news on the world stage today.

They just announced that Paris has been liberated.

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by j-whitman June 28, 2007 12:26 PM PDT

Iceman_1960,,, Wasn't that in Bush's speech today, Paris liberated & we are winning in Iraq ??

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by iceman_1960 June 28, 2007 12:28 PM PDT

"Iceman_1960,,, Wasn't that in Bush's speech today, Paris liberated & we are winning in Iraq ??"
- Posted by j-whitman at 12:26 PM : Jun 28, 2007

Yup.

He's one for two: Paris Hilton WAS liberated.

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by pwrslm June 28, 2007 12:41 PM PDT

This is, essentially, Iraqi's murdering Iraqi's. Just like in America, where 45 people will be murdered by Americans today.

In a country where 27 million people live, we pay alot of attention to this.

What is showing? The cowardice of this "islamic" civil conflict. They are not fighting battles. They are terrorizing the Iraqi public, no better than Saddam did.

Outside of a few hotspots where these cowards congregate, Iraq is beginning to find some peace. If we can cut off all the inflow of money and weapons from Iran and Syria, or where ever they come from, Iraq will actually take off and become a self ruled democracy.

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by j-whitman June 28, 2007 12:51 PM PDT

pwrslm,,, You should really start listening to our generals.... Bush is lying again. Iraq's army is nowhere close to being capable of doing the job or holding the ground we take...

.. Iraq's have only postponed attacking our troops, listen to what they tell you... "After we fight Al Queda, we will fight American's untill they leave our country"

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by j-whitman June 28, 2007 12:54 PM PDT

pwrslm,,,, This "Surge" is a failure --- Listen to your own republican Senators & Congressmen

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[mcvet]

Have all you Southern Fascist and Neocon's had enought "Giving" what you never believed in and do not understand to others yet? ROFLMAO What in this world were the people of this nation thinking when they elected these MORON's in the first place. Can ANYONE name one, just ONE, of them that have EVER been out front in developing American Rights. People who have ignored our laws and trashed our Constitution have gotten the Butt Whoopin of the Century trying to give that system to others. I wonder why??? Sieg Heil Y'all.

[antoniof123]

I am from the South born in Florida and I was against this stupid war, but when most of America said we go I accepted the will of the majority and also the names that you fascists called me now I am sick and tired of you the neo con party. Never again I will I vote for a neo con or any member of that party. The will of America is being denied by a few it is time to put a stop to this madness. I don't care what the neo con Senators say now or do they will never get a vote from me. No more you neo cons don't play nice now I will do what ever is needed to make sure your ilk is removed from our government.

[iceman_1960]

Bring the troops home so they can do their duty: protect America.

Nothing in the Constitution authorizes Bush to act like some half-a*ssed Knight-Errant, spreading democracy around all the dark and violent backwaters of the world. If that is his heart's desire, let him employ his own private force of contractors to do it, and pay for it himself -- not hijack American troops and American taxpayers to fulfill his private Marvel Comics fantasies.

The American troops are not being successful in the mission of protecting Iraqis and establishing democracy. No one could be, at this point in history. Even a coalition of Muslim troops could not restore order there, mush less a force of Westerners, predominatly white and Christian.

No one has ever yet put out a fire by dousing it with gasoline, and George W. Bush will not be the first to do so.

Bring the troops home.

[itchyb-2009]

On Oct. 3, 2000, candidate Bush lectured Vice President Gore about his views on nation-building:

"The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops," he snorted. "He believes in nation-building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation-builders."

[iceman_1960]

"What is important is that Iraqis are now addressing these issues through debate and discussion, not at the barrel of a gun. The establishment of a democratic constitution in Iraq, just like the establishment of a constitution in Afghanistan last year, will be a landmark event in the history of the broader Middle East." - George W. Bush, two years ago.

George W. Bush is an utter fool.

He has blood on his hands.

[iceman_1960]

It required only Friday evening quarterbacking, and 20-20 foresight, to anticipate this mess in Iraq.

The Elder Bush did so clearly:

"Whose life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we're going to show our macho? We're going into Baghdad. We're going to be an occupying power - America in an Arab land - with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous.

We don't [gauge] the size of our victory by how many innocent kids running away - even though they're bad guys - that we can slaughter... We're American soldiers; we don't do business that way."

- Forner president George H. W. Bush, to a reunion of Gulf War veterans, February 28, 1999.

[ubrew12]

Gee, 20 blown up and 20 decapitated.

In other news, Paris Hilton reports that she's 'been through alot'.

[rafterman1]

...Another fine day in the Republic of Iraq.

[rjstolba]

And THIS is why we send our brave, young men to the slaughter for???????

[drummer94]

I love the smell of beheaded bodies in the morning-smells like...victory. Sorry, I do not mean to make light of this,this, man I can't think of a description strong enough to type. That loony-toon in the white house has thouroughly screwed up that country. Now that the repubs are sliming away from supporting this fiasco we can get our troops home and let that country do what was inevitable once Sadam was taken out-civil war until THEY have had enough. Just like we did 130 some-odd years ago.

[iceman_1960]

Nothing fails like failure.

More than one in three REPUBLICANS are now in the anti-war camp.

"A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Tuesday shows that 38 percent of respondents who identified themselves as Republicans say they oppose the war.

Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, is jumping straight to what he calls Plan "E" for "Exit."

"It's time for the United States to put together a comprehensive plan for gradual disengagement in Iraq," Voinovich said. "We're running out of time and I don't think it's fair to the next administration to say, 'Hey by the way, we're leaving this baby for you guys to figure out.'"

Source:

CNN: "Senators' dissent over Iraq might trigger a different surge"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/27/iraq.gop.dissent/index.html

[rushlimpdrug]

there must be some holy writing somewhere that justifies this.
Musta' been done in the name of some God.

[king77shaw]

let us not forget the following Zionists who put Israel%u2019s interests over the United States when crafting, promoting and implementing the Iraq War.

Richard Perle - chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Defense Secretary, dethroned World Bank head and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. Feith is a pro-Israel extremist and is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Kenneth Adelman - sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

I. Lewis Scooter Libby - Vice President Dikk Cheney's Chief of Staff. The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney.

Elliott Abrams - National Security Council Advisor. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration.

Robert Zoellick - our new World Bank leader and one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Zionists in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq.

David Frum - White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.

[bluestardad]

SAFE AS SOME CITIES IN AMERICA, JOHN MCCAIN (R) ARIZONA

LIKE ANY MARKET PLACE IN INDIANA, MIKE PENCE (R) INDIANA


STEP AWAY FROM THE KOOL AID

ANYONE THAT VOTES REPUBLICAN SHOULD BE COMMITTED OR HAVE MARK FOLEY BRING THEM BREAKFAST!

[iceman_1960]

"there must be some holy writing somewhere that justifies this. Musta' been done in the name of some God."
- Posted by rushlimpdrug at 08:29 AM : Jun 28, 2007

The BBC reports it.

"Former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."

And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."

Mr Abbas remembers how the US President told him he had a "moral and religious obligation" to act. The White House has refused to comment on what it terms a private conversation. But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given how throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith. "

Source:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm

[smirk5]

Remember this one Cons? You ate this one up too.

Friday, December 01, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq: Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Thursday he believed Iraqi forces would be ready by June 2007 to take full control of security in Iraq, an issue on which he pressed President Bush during their meeting in Amman, Jordan.
"I can say that Iraqi forces will be ready, fully ready to receive this command and to command its own forces, and I can tell you that by next June our forces will be ready," al-Maliki said in an interview with ABC News.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,29
33,233178,00.html

You Cons know it's June, right?
Suckers.

[iceman_1960]

"God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did." - George W. Bush

Bush is acutely psychotic in the clinical sense of hearing voices. (As in, "The Word of the Lord came unto me, to drown my children in the bathtub.")

Surely the phrase "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" can be reasonably construed to include clinical psychosis, as the Founding Fathers would not have thought that madness was an insufficint reason to remove the Chief Executive from power.

[juwboy]

How many Jews are there in the US?

2%

How many non-Jews?

98%

Although we're massively out-numbered, limp-wristed, purse-carrying, hip-swivelling, c@ck-s@cking Gentiles like king77shaw are totally shiite-scared of us!!!

[goheels_15]

i dont know why you people are making such a big fuss about radical muslims when that noted political scientist rosie o'donnell and her ilk have clearly told us that radical christianity is just as bad. i'm sure we are all on pins and needles worrying and fretting over the next car bomb that pat robertson will set off...right? i mean surely rosie and moveon.org and code pink and that crowd wouldnt try to deceive us and say something that wasnt true...would they? nahhhhhhh, sweet little ol rosie and those peaceful libs would neeeeeeevvvvvverrrrr do something like that. those innocent muslims were all just trying to live simple lives as goat herders until the mean ol' americans showed up right. shame on us for making them so radical. they have never been associated with violence till big bad cowboy bush started picking on them, right? hmmmmmmmm, i guess it was falwell and billy graham that have been blowing up those marine barracks and german disco's, right?

[iceman_1960]

But Lauren Bacall married an Irishman.

Don't forget about that.

[iceman_1960]

"[Iraqis] have never been associated with violence till big bad cowboy bush started picking on them, right? hmmmmmmmm, i guess it was falwell and billy graham that have been blowing up those marine barracks and german disco's, right?"
- Posted by goheels_15 at 09:21 AM : Jun 28, 2007

They were never associated with democracy, or anything but tyrannical rule and brutal violence.

Then Bush showed up (showed up by proxy, I mean) with his BELIEFS and his BROMIDES.

"See, I believe people want to be free... People across the Middle East can look at Iraq and see what life in a free country is like."

Thanks to Dubya, they certainly can now.

[drummer94]

...three British soldiers were killed (by) a roadside bomb in southern Iraq." Want to wager how long it will be before those targets are gone?

[bareemperor]

The Republicons have failed.

[oakishpines]

a drug company kills off millions, but advertises the drugs that killoff more few, but meida outlets refuse paid advertisemtns from most as they are silly and dangersous while governments spend trillions creamming pills down fokls throtas and waving guns in folks faces and afforeding them no market share for their suffering even as they tax old widows for their retirements income while the old widows die sleeping with guns afraid to leave the house and afraid to stay in it and buying protection from god for the police are too busy to patrol and too busy to even show at the door to collectg the taxes becasue they it's more cheap to send a letter with a threat and meanwhile terror has never been more affordable as silly litttle microwaves and silly little macrowaves and silly little preprogrammed robots and silly little insects and silly little microbes abound all over and there's no end to the maximum wage get sick soon and no beginning to the minimum wage get well soon and its funny the pharoahs build educations and liabilities scarecely a pharoah can afford then stops off at the fast food place for a vegie burger from a general surgeon with no knowledge of feed the world wutsoever, just tax and tax and tax it

[retiredinmex]

Is anyone as mad as me? What the hell is Bush doing still in office?

He has illegally, immorally and unilaterally invaded a country that originally had no ties to terrorism. Now, yes, there are many terrorism threats as Iraq is an international terrorist congregation point.

I served in Iraq and spoke with hundreds of US and "Coalition" military members. I guarantee you there was no one who agreed with our/their presence in Iraq.

When was the last time you heard the media refer to "the Coalition?"

Who are the terrorists in Iraq? What the hell has Bush gotten us into? Where's the plan to get out of this quagmire?

Is there a poll of parents of the dead, injured or missing as to their support for this war?

[king77shaw]

let us not forget the following Zionists who put Israel%u2019s interests far above the United States when crafting, promoting and implementing the Iraq War.

Richard Perle - chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Defense Secretary, dethroned World Bank head and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. Feith is a pro-Israel extremist and is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

Kenneth Adelman - sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor. Chief architect of the Iraq war.

I. Lewis Scooter Libby - Vice President Dikk Cheney's Chief of Staff. The chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney.

Elliott Abrams - National Security Council Advisor. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration.

Robert Zoellick - our new World Bank leader and one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Zionists in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq.

David Frum - White House speechwriter behind the "Axis of Evil" label. He lumps together all the lies and accusations against Iraq for Bush to justify the war.

[king77shaw]

wow, General Odom calling out AIPAC (American-Israeli political action committee) by name as being one of the BIG driving forces behind the Iraq war - check out his recent interview ... a very intelligent assessment of the situation ... it is nice to know that our military has such great minds at the top - too bad we can't say the same for the civilian side of things ...

http://dissentradio.com/charles/awgenodom051007.mp3

[brianbwb-2009]

"God would tell me, 'George, go unto Congress, and tell thou a series of boldface lies to the American people, maketh the lies as excuse to loot the US treasury, thinkest not once of the blood of the innocent, as they are mine. Then shalt thou render the money unto thine personal friends' and by God, that's what I'm gonna do"

[drummer94]

oakishpines-cokeishhead? Take a breath.Sheesh

[smirk5]

The same administration that thinks this surge is working thought that the insurgents were in their last throes over 2 years ago.

Reality isn't their strong point.

Last Throes: Year 3

As they stand up, we'll have to stand up even more.

[iceman_1960]

"B T W ,is that qoute verbatim, by bush. iceman? I 've seen it before, but wondered if it was distorted. its obvious boy blunder is an idiot, but did he really say it that way. if so its gotta go in my top qoutes folder !!!"
- Posted by usadvisor101 at 09:35 AM : Jun 28, 2007

Would our friends at FoxNews make up a quote like that ?

"Friday, March 19, 2004
FoxNews

President Bush marked the one-year anniversary of the beginning of the U.S.-led war against Iraq with a White House speech. Following is a transcript of his remarks.

Bush: "Good morning and thanks for coming... And it is a good thing that the men and women across the Middle East, looking to Iraq, are getting a glimpse of what life in a free country can be like."

Source:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114668,00.html

[nolalou]

This is truly an unpresidented disastar! The worse military / foreign policy decision ever made by a US President! (and yes, those in congress who voted for this mess share the blame, be they Democrat or Republican).

I saw on the CBS news last night that we spent something like 12 billion to train over 300 thousand Iraqi police and soldiers, and when asked, our commanders there said we could not account for where they are, how many have joined the insurgents, how many dead, how many may have quit their jobs or even left the country! We are loosing lives and wasting billions of dollars in this debacle!

[clestes-2009]

More progress towards democracy!!!!

[bluestardad]

THOSE POLITICIANS WHO WONT SUPPORT CUTTING OFF FUNDING FOR THE WAR ARE BOUGHT BY THE ISRAELI LOBBY AIPAC, PNAC, AEI NEOCONS!

It is not anti Semitic to believe there are millions of other good people in the Middle East with valid concerns!

Even Eisenhower had problems with Israeli groups but he did not let them buy him!

READ AS THEY BRAG ABOUT THEIR INFLUENCE ON OUR GOVERNMENT!
http://www.aipac.org/forms/
join_aipacClubs.htm


Founded in 1953 by Isaiah L. "Si" Kenen, AIPAC's original name was the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs. According to UCLA political science professor and author, Steven Spiegel, "the tension between the Eisenhower administration and Israeli supporters was so acute that there were rumors that the administration would investigate the American Zionist Council. Therefore, an independent lobbying committee was formed, which years later was renamed [AIPAC]." Today, AIPAC has over 100,000 members.[1] Activities and stated goals
AIPAC's stated purpose is to lobby the Congress of the United States on issues and legislation "to ensure that the U.S.-Israel relationship is strong so that both countries can work together" to meet the challenges of "stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.. AIPAC has been effective in gaining support for Israel among members of Congress and White House administrations.
The New York Times described AIPAC on July 6, 1987 as "a major force in shaping United States policy in the Middle East."

[smirk5]

I bet most Cons here think this is just a continuation of last throes.

They'll believe anything.

[rharrin1]

Well after the news today ( june 28 2007 ) we should hear from more right wing conservative bible thumpers expressing their desire to flip flop.

[smirk5]

More facts occurred today in Iraq. It gives Cons just more to ignore.

[prinzowhales]

Just more evidence that the 'surge' was a waste of time, blood and treasure. Its time for our soldiers to stop obeying illegal orders. Its time for them to come home.

When the facts of how they were betrayed by the leaders of this nation--on everything from 9-11 to the tall tales about Iran--I sincerely hope this rage will extend to those even now slinking away from Bush and the men behind him. If you are voting for any of the mainstream candidates in either Republican or Democratic party--you are voting for 'Bush' policies with a new face and improved grammar.

Americans! Stand with our soldiers when sanity returns and the Usurper and his monsters are finally brought to justice.

[j-whitman]

20 headless bodies found, blast kills 20 more -- Progress,,,,, No bid contracts are up 43% over the prievious year.

[toldyouso21]

saw on the CBS news last night that we spent something like 12 billion to train over 300 thousand Iraqi police and soldiers, and when asked, our commanders there said we could not account for where they are, how many have joined the insurgents, how many dead, how many may have quit their jobs or even left the country! We are loosing lives and wasting billions of dollars in this debacle!
Posted by nolalou at 10:15 AM : Jun 28, 2007


the number was 19 BILLION dollars spent, not 12

[toldyouso21]

Since the revelation of Enron and then 9/11, then the March to war..re: the invasion, Gonzales, torture, wiretapping, Plame, curveball, yellowcake, Downing memo, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq, world opinion, Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, Java--in short for the past 7+ years.....


I TOLD YOU SO.

[briannorwood]

Anyone notice... I haven't heard the phrase "cut and run" for awhile now.

Where have all the neocon supporters gone?

[toldyouso21]

they have never been associated with violence till big bad cowboy bush started picking on them, right? hmmmmmmmm, i guess it was falwell and billy graham that have been blowing up those marine barracks and german disco's, right?
Posted by goheels_15 at 09:21 AM : Jun 28, 2007

When people declare Christian rightees just as bad, they don't mean we blow up our own, though we might, if we were under occupation and felt like a lot of Americans were helping the enemy. What they mean is that Americans are quick to be self righteous and start wars--and their actions cause just as much death or more than the regimes they claim they have the right to topple.

Religion aside, this much is true--over a million people who were still alive and had managed to survive the horrors of Saddam have been murdered due to the actions of a foreign army and the vacuum the invasion of that army created. When a person is about to die or is maimed and lays dying--it really does not matter to them or their family if Saddam did it or the chaos or bombs caused by our acts did it--the result is the same: dead people. The difference is that Iraqis had learned how to manage and survive under Saddam and he was one of their own--now they are being slaughtered in a game with no rules and it is all the fault of foreign busybodies.

[micma-2009]

Every day Bush's "surge" looks more like his "stay the course" plan.

We need real leadership now.

If we have to impeach Bush and Cheney to do it then so be it.

[iceman_1960]

It isn't all bad news on the world stage today.

They just announced that Paris has been liberated.

[j-whitman]

Iceman_1960,,, Wasn't that in Bush's speech today, Paris liberated & we are winning in Iraq ??

[iceman_1960]

"Iceman_1960,,, Wasn't that in Bush's speech today, Paris liberated & we are winning in Iraq ??"
- Posted by j-whitman at 12:26 PM : Jun 28, 2007

Yup.

He's one for two: Paris Hilton WAS liberated.

[pwrslm]

This is, essentially, Iraqi's murdering Iraqi's. Just like in America, where 45 people will be murdered by Americans today.

In a country where 27 million people live, we pay alot of attention to this.

What is showing? The cowardice of this "islamic" civil conflict. They are not fighting battles. They are terrorizing the Iraqi public, no better than Saddam did.

Outside of a few hotspots where these cowards congregate, Iraq is beginning to find some peace. If we can cut off all the inflow of money and weapons from Iran and Syria, or where ever they come from, Iraq will actually take off and become a self ruled democracy.

[j-whitman]

pwrslm,,, You should really start listening to our generals.... Bush is lying again. Iraq's army is nowhere close to being capable of doing the job or holding the ground we take...

.. Iraq's have only postponed attacking our troops, listen to what they tell you... "After we fight Al Queda, we will fight American's untill they leave our country"

[j-whitman]

pwrslm,,,, This "Surge" is a failure --- Listen to your own republican Senators & Congressmen