How Would Bloomberg Alter '08 Landscape?
NYC Mayor's Party Change Brews Speculation On Who Would Suffer From His Potential Candidacy
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What's Bloomberg Up To?
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg says his decision to quit the Republican Party isn't a prelude to a presidential bid, but he's not completely ruling out a run, either. Jim Axelrod reports.
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Greenfield On Bloomberg
Only On The Web: Sr. political correspondent Jeff Greenfield says Michael Bloomberg's break from the GOP makes sense, as now he may "be what he actually is, which is an independent."
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Bloomberg's 'Independent' Move
New York City Mayor Bloomberg cut ties with the GOP, fueling speculation he might run for president in 2008 as an independent. Bloomberg isn't tipping his hand. Alison Harmelin reports.
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New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg fields questions at a news conference during his visit to the 311 call center in New York on June 20, 2007. A day after quitting the Republican Party and registering as unaffiliated, Bloomberg continued to send mixed signals about his intentions, discussing both his mayoral term and vowing to address the major issues facing the country. (AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews)
A day after the announcement, Bloomberg repeated his assurance that he intends to finish out his second term as mayor and will not be a candidate for president.
"I’m not running for president and I’m going to be mayor for the next 925 days," he told reporters Wednesday, adding, "I've got the greatest job in the world."
Bloomberg says he wants to send a message that politics needs to be less partisan, reports CBS News chief White House correspondent Jim Axelrod.
"Today you are a piranha if you have coffee with someone from the other party, in many cases," he said.
But political advisers aren't taking Bloomberg at his word and are grappling with the reality that next year's general election could become a three-person affair.
"I think the country might be ready for a third-party candidacy — and he's got the money to do it, if he chooses to do it," said CBS News chief Washington correspondent Bob Schieffer.
Bloomberg was a lifelong Democrat before switching to the GOP in 2001, a move that allowed him to sidestep a crowded Democratic primary field.
His liberal positions on several hot-button issues, include abortion, gun control and gay rights, lead many to believe that his impact on the election would negatively affect the Democratic nominee. The New York Times reported that several political analysts agreed that a Bloomberg candidacy would do just that.
But Bloomberg could also garner the support of disaffected GOP moderates.
Third-party candidates traditionally have siphoned off support from the party in which they left, notes CBS News political consultant Nicolle Wallace.
Such was the case when Teddy Roosevelt left the Republicans to become a Bull Moose in 1912 — a move that helped contribute to Democrat Woodrow Wilson's victory.
CBSNews.com senior political editor Vaughn Ververs points out that since Bloomberg will be able to bypass the primary cycle, he likely won't have to announce his candidacy until after February of next year.
"It's going to be hard to say what his impact will be until we know who the two nominees are for both parties," said Ververs said.
One of Bloomberg's more daunting tasks would be getting his name on the ballot, since state parties have control of the election process.
But Bloomberg enjoys the benefit of having some time to weigh his options.
Whether he decides to seek the nation's highest office might depend on what happens during the primaries. If the nominees are Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani, for example, Bloomberg might find it difficult to find his own niche in an all-New York field.
"I think what he is truly doing here is exploring," Schieffer said. "He's testing the waters — testing the market. He's going to go around the country, he's going to make some speeches, he's going to see what kind of a reaction he gets. And if he gets a good reaction, my prediction is that he will run as an independent candidate."
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For starters it got that stupid looking Fred Thompson off the page and that is a good thing.
Agree with your post entirely, except for need to namecall Pres Bush (adds nothing to your points) - I am someone who would definitely be interested in a Bloomburg candidacy because I think once again, we're going to get stuck with the 2 candidates who most please their vocal fringes - GOP-er who panders to the religious right and Dem who panders to MoveOn.org (who scare me far more with their views than people too concerned about other people's life choices). I want to hear more of his economic and national security positions, but I'm with him in the center on social positions he has espoused on; which coincidentally, if he admits there is a war on terror and fights it, AND fights all the pressure from the left to raise taxes and socialize health care; he'd be in the majority on virtually every major issue - with the money to make sure people know it!! He could be tough to beat...
People that think he has a chance are delusional-
John Anderson (it takes more than being right). Ross Perot (it takes more than being rich).
I know know a lot about NYC politics but if Rudy is the nominee- and Hillary is the nominee you have 3 from Mew York- so does not this benefit Hillary as the female?
Posted by ImprisonBush
Come ON - I agree on Bloomburg, and I don't want a far righter being the GOP nominee either, but both Guiliani and McCain are fighting the GOP base on a number of issues. Which Dem candidate is doing that? They are all just taking their marching orders from MoveOn.org and the like!! Only Obama is consistent in his positions from anytime in the last few years. Edwards and Hillary have changed their views 180 degrees from even 2 years ago; they're playing for votes, not acting on principle, and running further to the left each passing speech they give. They have no credibility at all. I want an independent that STARTS the race and finishes it appealing to all voters as opposed to a far lefty OR far rightie that has to pander to the "base" fringes of America to get the nomination; then spends the general election cycle explaining their back-pedaling to the center (which of course only means one sure thing; they either lied to the primary voters or are lying to the general public now).
As a GOP member for over 30 years I say Bloomy, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out!
Posted by fredgrad2000 at 03:25 PM : Jun 20, 2007
Can't help it. I call them as I see them. I'm not sure about Bloomberg myself yet, but I sure am glad to have a viable alternative to look at. I seem to agree with him on most major points, but I still want to know where he stands on Amnesty for undocumented workers (I'm for it) and how he proposes to stop the insane war in Iraq. Still we shall see.
Even though I would love to see an independent party it is not possible. They are not orginazed enough and do not have the capibility in place to mount and effective run. So once again a vote for and independent is voting for the neo con party. Just vote for them instead of trying to make a point it is a lost vote.
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may I remind you that bloomberg WAS a democrat for a long time and decided to be a republican..bottomline, bloomberg will change into a thong bikini if he gets your vote..
last, bloomberg exerceised more liberal ideologies while being a republican..
JULY 21 2007 IS WHEN AMERICANS WILL BE FREE AGAIN
EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THIS SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL MEDIA OUTLETS AND TELLING THEM THAT AMERICANS ARE READY TO TAKE WASHINGTON ON AND ITS NOT A FEW AMERICANS ITMILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WILL TAKE BACK THERE COUNTRY..
I AM WILLING TO GIVE MY BLOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHAT OUR FORFATHERS WANTED.
AM A VET AND AM READY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AMERICAN BOYCOT/COOP IF WE THE PEOPLE DONT DO THIS NOW WE WILL BE GIVENING UP ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT ALL OUR VET HAVE DIED FOR..
DAVID A BELANGER,VET US ARMY,for-america@hotmail.com
ok so wants to join in on this great american REVOLUTION
they cant kill millions of americans at once so if we charge them all at once we will win and take them out and hang them all..
just like in the old days of the west...hang them from the trees in front of the whitehouse and see how many start telling the truth about what they have done to all us americans..
if the american NOW dont stand up and start a NATIONAL REVOUTION ON THIS WASHINGTON BULL S/H/I/T/ THEN we as TRUE AMERICANS can say nothing!!!
its time to take all this *** and take our government back now..
they are the ones that started this and we will finnish it now..we the people will take our country back and everyone in washington can sit there and thinks we the people are ok with what they are doing..
JULY 21 2007 IS WHEN AMERICANS WILL BE FREE AGAIN
EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THIS SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL MEDIA OUTLETS AND TELLING THEM THAT AMERICANS ARE READY TO TAKE WASHINGTON ON AND ITS NOT A FEW AMERICANS ITMILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WILL TAKE BACK THERE COUNTRY..
I AM WILLING TO GIVE MY BLOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHAT OUR FORFATHERS WANTED.
AM A VET AND AM READY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AMERICAN BOYCOT/COOP IF WE THE PEOPLE DONT DO THIS NOW WE WILL BE GIVENING UP ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT ALL OUR VET HAVE DIED FOR..
DAVID A BELANGER,VET US ARMY,for-america@hotmail.com
ok so wants to join in on this great american REVOLUTION
they cant kill millions of americans at once so if we charge them all at once we will win and take them out and hang them all..
just like in the old days of the west...hang them from the trees in front of the whitehouse and see how many start telling the truth about what they have done to all us americans..
if the american NOW dont stand up and start a NATIONAL REVOUTION ON THIS WASHINGTON BULL S/H/I/T/ THEN we as TRUE AMERICANS can say nothing!!!
its time to take all this *** and take our government back now..
they are the ones that started this and we will finnish it now..we the people will take our country back and everyone in washington can sit there and thinks we the people are ok with what they are doing..
JULY 21 2007 IS WHEN AMERICANS WILL BE FREE AGAIN
EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THIS SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL MEDIA OUTLETS AND TELLING THEM THAT AMERICANS ARE READY TO TAKE WASHINGTON ON AND ITS NOT A FEW AMERICANS ITMILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WILL TAKE BACK THERE COUNTRY..
I AM WILLING TO GIVE MY BLOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHAT OUR FORFATHERS WANTED.
AM A VET AND AM READY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AMERICAN BOYCOT/COOP IF WE THE PEOPLE DONT DO THIS NOW WE WILL BE GIVENING UP ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT ALL OUR VET HAVE DIED FOR..
DAVID A BELANGER,VET US ARMY,for-america@hotmail.com
ok so wants to join in on this great american REVOLUTION
they cant kill millions of americans at once so if we charge them all at once we will win and take them out and hang them all..
just like in the old days of the west...hang them from the trees in front of%2
JULY 21 2007 IS WHEN AMERICANS WILL BE FREE AGAIN
EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO HELP WITH THIS SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL MEDIA OUTLETS AND TELLING THEM THAT AMERICANS ARE READY TO TAKE WASHINGTON ON AND ITS NOT A FEW AMERICANS ITMILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WILL TAKE BACK THERE COUNTRY..
I AM WILLING TO GIVE MY BLOOD FOR ALL AMERICANS TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK TO WHAT OUR FORFATHERS WANTED.
AM A VET AND AM READY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AMERICAN BOYCOT/COOP IF WE THE PEOPLE DONT DO THIS NOW WE WILL BE GIVENING UP ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT ALL OUR VET HAVE DIED FOR..
DAVID A BELANGER,VET US ARMY,for-america@hotmail.com
ok so wants to join in on this great american REVOLUTION
they cant kill millions of americans at once so if we charge them all at once we will win and take them out and hang them all..
just like in the old days of the west...hang them from the trees in front of the whitehouse and see how many start telling the truth about what they have done to all us americans..
if the american NOW dont stand up and start a NATIONAL REVOUTION ON THIS WASHINGTON BULL S/H/I/T/ THEN we as TRUE AMERICANS can say nothing!!!
its time to take all this *** and take our government back now..
they are the ones that started this and we will finnish it now..we the people will take our country back and everyone in washington can sit there and thinks we the people are ok with what they are doing..
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Bloomberg is strictly a regional phenomenon, and probably won't be seen after his first (and last) presidential bid. But what Bloomberg demonstrates is the complete collapse of the GOP circus-- ringleadered in 1994 by Newt Gingrich-- as some kind of "revolution".
The only change wrought by the GOP was devolution of American government, strangling the tax base (Norquist) to suit fat cat GOP contributors, and shoving the burdens of government onto the embattled American middle class.
Regardless of your politics, Ralph Nader has been generally beneficial to the American political system. Much of what we expect from corporations and government as our due is the product of Nader's 30-year effort on behalf of average Americans.
Nader introduced massive reforms in government and consumer affairs-- reforms like transparency of government and corporate affairs, increased scrutiny of public officials and responsible behavior by orporations. Nader's was a true revolution of lasting, constructive change.
I disagree. With his personal wealth Bloomberg could easily buy over 1 billion dollars worth of advertising that would make him much more then a regional phenomenon. Also while I agree that Nader was important in his day (and I was a devoted believer in him and his goals for years) he is still a has been. His runs for the presidency are little more then pure ego trips and he needs to stop before he embarrasses himself more and ruins his once considerable reputation further.
She is. You see some people (democrats) can do more then one thing at a time. In fact some of them can do many things at once. It's called being intelligent (look it up). Unlike republicans (Bush for instance) who have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time.
A republican brain-damaged smirking chimp as president.
A menacing, skulking sociopath as vicepresident.
Heartless Hillary for Dem candidate and the empty suit from Illinois for VP candidate.
A schizo billionaire as the spoiler.
And a fried-cheeyikin eatin' cracka leading the repubbie pack?
Oh Lord, send a great wave . . .
Romney talks.
Guiliani betrays himself with his own words.
Hillary, no frigging way unless she can convince us she can put through a national health care plan. Which seems difficult, she was called "communist" by Republicans - who seem to be cheering her these days? Forget party lines, she's a shill who's no better than
McCain - well, if anyone can think of a person who deserves the office even less, let me know...
Bloomberg says something and DOES it. While Governor Arnold of CA designs "Hummer" SUVs then says "We need to go green" with no followup (yet), Bloomberg actually says "We need to go green" and then makes and commits plans on converting NY's taxi service to hybrids.
Bloomberg comes across as if he'll give a *** for actual Americans and I'll put any differences or biases I've got and vote for him if he runs. HE is a man of integrity.
If only our current President and Congress did more for the American people, their popularity rates wouldn't be so low. And I don't disagree with President Bush's reasons for needing to stay in Iraq, but when it comes to 'globalization', too many Americans are feeling left out and that - more than anything - is why we're losing ground. This needs to be reversed.
Posted by yurpallid at 07:04 PM : Jun 20, 2007
Yeah! And in my day we had to walk 100 miles to school every day! And it was uphill...both ways! In the blazing sun...in neck deep snow! And we never had food to eat! We ate dirt! Yeah dirt...and were glad to get it! Whippersnappers of today are all ingrates! Why back in my day we......
Posted by RandalDS at 07:16 PM : Jun 20, 2007
AND we had to hunt our own dirt...or we didn't eat! And don't get me started on shoes! Shoes were for the rich kids! Why we had it so bad we couldn't even afford the soles on our feet! We had to walk on the bones...and we glad for it! Quit yer whining!
people in other countries love america but have disdain for it's citizens because they do not appreciate there freedoms and way of life.
We will ose our freedom if we do not cherish it.
Posted by yurpallid at 07:45 PM : Jun 20, 2007
God but you Fascist are the worst!! We have an INCOMPETENT LEADER who has LIED to us consistently but hey no problem huh? Want to know why this nation is so divided and upset? YOU... all of you Fascist and your "Liberals are to blame" mentality. When you try to put American's into a box and start Blaming them for the failures of YOUR Leaders, this is going to happen. Now slime back under your rock and we'll call you when we get it all straightened out. Sieg Heil Bush!!
You yourself have no freedoms -- your lost your freedoms when you tossed your brains down the toilet to become a Bushie - you let Rove and Hannity and Rush and Murdoch sell you soundbites and cause you can regurgitate them fairly well you have a false sense of being 'brainy'.
But never forget this - when it came down to it you chose to go against America and instead sided iwth a cowardly, childishly immature, foolishly stubborn fake-texan trust fund baby who preferred dressing up in cheerleading outfit to play football!
Problem is what the heck are we going to do with the likes of you?? You obviously have nothing to contribute to America and have proved you don't have the intelligence of a gnat and can only tell us what Rush tells you to say - you don't have a thought process. So when Bush's term is over what do we do with you??
Hopefully, Americans will understand that a third party candidate may give us another neocon. A Republican, any Republican, is going to be beholden to the same corporate interests, the same religious right, the same cronies as Bush. We need a different direction from that and while the Democrats may not be perfect, they are certainly better than the Repub's at helping the middle class because of their initiatives in protecting the consumer, standing up for the environment, and promoting stem cell research which holds such promise for us all...and that is just a small sampling of their goals.
Posted by yurpallid
Our "freedom" only exists if our leaders in government can obey the constitution which they have all taken an oath to protect and defend.
Unfortunately today more and more of our leaders are ignoring more and more of our constitution.
Habeus corpus is basically gone.
Kiss the 4th amendment goodbye.
Torture is the norm.
We are only one step away from martial law.
The list goes on and on.
Bush has given himself(and all future presidents) much more power than the constitution allows.
If Jesus returns on his watch Bloomberg will nail him to a cross.
Jews hate muslims and christians, their women are prost-it-utes and the men herpe riddled pimps.
Posted by darkmeat4 at 10:57 PM : Jun 20, 2007
The words of the typical right wing christian republican. Scary huh? Well at least he says out loud what most of the Christian right feels inside.
Save your money. You and Freddy don't stand a chance to win the election.
Why don't the two of you open an ice cream stand or something to keep yourselves busy.
Put your egos in a tight metal box and throw it in the Hudson.
Sheeeeesh!
don't believe a word.
he's either out to divide the vote as third party canditdate (to guarantee a GOP win) or suffering from megalomania brought on by billions of dollars.
ISRAELI POLITICIANS STORM WASHINGTON!
WE SEE MORE AND MORE ISRAELI POLITICIANS ON THE NEWS AND IN WASHINGTON FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS AS THE SUPPORT FOR THEIR POLICIES HAVE FALTERED IN THE CONGRESS AS AMERICA WAKES UP!
They are making a full court press on our politicians trying to Stay the Course in Iraq and to attack Iran! Of course they want American Tax money running thru their banks before it goes to the Palestinians too!
TELL OUR POLITICIANS AND THE MEDIA NO MORE MONEY TO THE MIDDLE EAST THEY HAVE NOTHING WE NEED NO MATTER WHAT AIPAC, PNAC, AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE OR THE WEEKLY STANDARD NEOCONS SAY!
FACTS ARE THE ENEMY OF BUSH AND HIS CHICKEN HAWK NEOCONS THAT SELL OUT AMERICAN BLOOD AND TREASURE FOR THE POLICY OF ISRAEL!
BE PREPARED!
ISRAELIS HIDE BEHIND PROBLEMS THEY HAD IN EUROPE 70 YEARS AGO! AS SOON AS YOU QUESTION THE POLICY OF THESE SLUGS THEY SAY A PERSON IS ANTI SEMITIC! I AM AMERICAN NOT ISRAELI AND OUR TROOPS ARENT EITHER!
"Gen. William Odom discusses the %u201Cworst strategic disaster in American history,%u201D the war in Iraq: the view of most generals that the war is wrong, the failure of the politicians to see the consequences of their actions, the centrality of the neoconservatives and the Israel lobby in pushing for the Iraq invasion, the %u201Csurge,%u201D
www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/
05/10/gen-william-odom
READ AIPAC BRAG ABOUT THEIR INFLUENCE
ON AMERICAN POLITICIANS!
http://www.aipac.org/for
ms/join_aipacClubs.htm
bloomberg is a trojan horse - beware freedom loving American patriots - he has "left" the GOP?
don't believe a word.
he's either out to divide the vote as third party canditdate (to guarantee a GOP win) or suffering from megalomania brought on by billions of dollars.
Posted by neoconRcrazy at 05:17 AM : Jun 21, 2007
Adolf Hitler banned Jews from own any weapons making them defenseless before he butchered millions of them just because of their religion.
Mass murderers prefer unarmed victims.
www.a-human-right.com
"Jews are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons.
Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions...will be punished with imprisonment and a fine.
Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick"
- Nazi Weapons Law of November 11, 1938
http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawGerman.htm
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to
possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry
arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."
-- Adolf Hitler
bloomberg is a trojan horse - beware freedom loving American patriots - he has "left" the GOP?
don't believe a word.
he's either out to divide the vote as third party canditdate (to guarantee a GOP win) or suffering from megalomania brought on by billions of dollars.
Posted by neoconRcrazy at 05:17 AM : Jun 21, 2007
- It's an expected move. It'll be called Israel First. Together with Joseph Lieberman as vp on IF ticket. Show me one real action taken in favor of USA by any of them... they will take orders directly from Knesset, and USA as someone said recently, will be affiliated to Jerusalem... hahaha! The new world order will have moved its center command to the Center of the world YeUrShaleem. Skepticals will be disappointed.
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by gunownerdan
June 21, 2007 1:21 PM PDT
- Not only have rich corporate fascists hijacked the democrat and republican parties, now they are hijacking the independents!
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