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Kellogg Won't Market Sugary Cereal To Kids

Cereal/Snack-Maker Agrees To Stop Advertising Too-Sugary Products To Children

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(CBS/AP)  Kids' Saturday morning television won't be as sweet.

In the face of a lawsuit, cereal-maker Kellogg is clamping down on marketing sugary cereals and snacks to kids, reports CBS News consumer safety correspondent Nancy Cordes. It's a move food safety advocates hope will spread to the rest of the brands in the cereal aisle.

Kellogg Co. said Thursday it will increase the nutritional value of the cereals and snacks targeted at children or stop marketing those products to them altogether

The company said it won't promote foods in TV, radio, print or Web site ads that reach audiences at least half of whom are under age 12 unless a single serving of the product meets these standards:
  • No more than 200 calories.

  • No trans fat and no more than 2 grams of saturated fat.

  • No more than 230 milligrams of sodium, except for Eggo frozen waffles.

  • No more than 12 grams of sugar, not counting sugar from fruit, dairy and vegetables.
Kellogg said it would reformulate products to meet these criteria or stop marketing them to children under 12 by the end of 2008.

The cereals that would fall into the "too sugary" category include Apple Jacks, Cocoa Krispies, Corn Puffs, Froot Loops, Raisin Bran, and Smacks, reports Cordes.

Frosted Flakes made the cut, however. It has exactly 12 grams of sugar, while Raisin Bran has 19.

"Because a lot of that sugar comes from fruit (the raisins), that's OK," explains Cordes. "The problem with Raisin Bran is that it goes over the sodium cutoff. So does Rice Krispies."

Kellogg was facing pressure from the Center for Science in the Public Interest, the same organization that dropped a lawsuit against Kentucky Fried Chicken only after it promised to stopping frying chicken with trans fats.

"Over the years, Kellogg has marketed so many foods that are so high in sugar. They call them breakfast cereals. They should really be called breakfast candies," CSPI executive director Michael Jacobson said.

CSPI counted 54 commercials for Kellogg products in 27½ hours of Saturday morning television; 98 percent of them were for foods the Center says had poor nutritional quality.

"Have you seen ads for those cereals on the TV?" Cordes asked a young viewer.

"A lot!" replied 9-year-old Nagaen Fazeli, adding that she has seen the commercials on Nickelodeon, Disney and Cartoon Network.

Jacobson's nutrition advocacy group, along with two Massachusetts parents and the Boston-based Campaign For A Commercial-Free Childhood, had served notice in January 2006 of intent to sue Kellogg and the Nickelodeon cable TV network under a Massachusetts law to stop them from marketing junk food to kids.

Center spokesman Jeff Cronin said Kellogg contacted the plaintiffs shortly thereafter and began negotiating the new standards, so the lawsuit was not filed and will not be filed.

"By committing to these nutrition standards and marketing reforms, Kellogg has vaulted over the rest of the food industry," said Jacobson. "This commitment means that parents will find it a little easier to steer their children toward healthy food choices — especially if other food manufacturers and broadcasters follow Kellogg's lead."

"We are pleased to work collaboratively with industry and advocacy groups to unveil these standards," said David Mackay, Kellogg's CEO. "We feel the Kellogg Nutrient Criteria set a new standard for responsibility in the industry."

With 2006 sales of almost $11 billion, Kellogg is not only the No. 1 cereal-maker but also a leading producer of snack foods. Its brands include Kellogg's, Keebler, Pop-Tarts, Eggo, Cheez-Its, Rice Krispies and Famous Amos.

The agreement disqualifies Pop-Tarts, Cheez-Its, some Keebler cookies and crackers and dozens of other products made by Kellogg and the brands it owns, reports Cordes.

"What this means is that foods that don't meet the criteria, which is a huge number, like 50 percent of our products, will either have to be reformulated or retargeted," Kellogg chief marketing officer Mark Baynes told CBS News.

Kellogg also has agreed to stop using popular cartoon characters to market sugary or fatty foods to young children. That means no more Shrek or SpongeBob Squarepants on the box or in the commercial.

"That's a great idea because you can't even take your child to the grocery store because they're clamoring for the products with cartoon characters on them," commented CBS Early Show co-anchor Hannah Storm, the mother of three young children.

The advertising agreement does not apply to marketing characters Kellogg owns, like Tony the Tiger.

Susan Linn, co-founder of the Campaign For A Commercial-Free Childhood, said Kellogg was the first food company to agree to restrict advertising using licensed media characters like Shrek.

"These characters play an incredibly important role in children's lives. Kids see them every day; they have toys of them," Linn said. "The media characters are much more powerful (than company-owned characters like Tony the Tiger). The food companies want to keep using them because they sell a lot of food; kids really respond to them."

Kellogg also announced that it will continue to refrain from advertising to children under age 6, and will not in the future:
  • Advertise to children any foods in schools and preschools that include kids under age 12.

  • Sponsor placement of any of its products in any medium primarily directed at kids under age 12.

  • Use branded toys connected to any foods that do not meet the nutrition standards.
General Mills, Kellogg's main competitor, is already making all its cereals with whole grains, reports Cordes. But sugary cereals still make up 40 percent of the cereal market.

American companies spend about $15 billion a year marketing and advertising to children under age 12, the Institute of Medicine said when it warned that one-third of American children are obese or at risk for becoming obese.

In response, Kellogg and McDonald's Corp. joined eight other major food and drink companies last November in an industry-sponsored pledge to promote more healthy foods and exercise in their child-oriented advertising. A year earlier, Kraft Foods Inc. had promised to curb ads to young children for snack foods, including Oreos and Kool-Aid.


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by reel-crazy June 14, 2007 8:58 AM PDT

As a child, my parents were responsible enough to tell me NO when I wanted enticing cereals I saw on TV, but that was 45 years ago. It appears that parents succomb to their children's wishes much more easily now.

I don't purchase everything I see advertised. Otherwise, I would be an obese, egotistical, alcoholic constantly dialing my doctor because I had a problem that lasted over 4 hours.

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by dmk3 June 14, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
Hello parents, get a clue. Don't buy the cereal. Feed your kids wheatpuffs or something. Just say no! Who's the parent?
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by texas468 June 14, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
I usually gave my daughter honey-nut Cheerios, healthy trail-mix cereals, etc. That and I ate the stuff too......Kids generally mirror what their parents eat. That and as Reel-Crazy said - you have to be able to tell your kids "NO". It doesn't hurt them one bit. Way to go Kelloggs!!
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by xxmorosxx June 14, 2007 9:38 AM PDT
Parents are looking everywhere else to find a reason for their kids gaining weight. They refuse to take credit and say "Maybe I shouldn't have bought them the super size fries from McDonald's, after feeding them about a pound of sugary cereal this morning." No one wants to take credit. When I was growing up if I wanted something I didn't always get it. And, if I complained or anything that just made it worse for me.
But, these days, parents just give in to shut kids up. It's pathetic and embarrassing.
I think what's really interesting is that we all overlook one important thing. Look, KFC cooks without transfats. Cigarette companies can't advertise like, at all. But, who is one of the sponsors of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament? Beer companies. More than half the players are underage, but beer companies still sponsor the tournament. Every beer commercial or alcohol commercial is like a party these days. It's encouraging younger people to drink because of the party atmosphere. Yet, nothing is happening to these companies, and that's a more serious issue I think, with the increased rate of binge drinking on college campuses. It's embarrassing to everyone that our country is so blind to real issues.
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by rushlimpdrug June 14, 2007 9:41 AM PDT
So Trix are not for kids?
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by malamute95 June 14, 2007 9:43 AM PDT
so it's become the responsibility of Kellogg's to keep children from eating sugar? Where are the parents; eating Frosted Flakes?
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by dmk3 June 14, 2007 9:45 AM PDT
enough said xxmorosxx! I agree 100%. There are too many more serious issues going on in our world besides sugar in cereal.I'm more concerned about keeping my kids safe when they are not with me (like in school, camp etc.) opposed to weather or not I will give them a heaping serving of frosted flakes or applejacks. We are PARENTS. Be the PARENT. Saying no will not kill them or scar them for life, or leave some void that they may want to talk to Dr. Phil about.JUST SAY NO!
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by renwoman1 June 14, 2007 9:46 AM PDT
One thing that gets me about the Center for Science in the Public Interest is that they believe that no one can make an informed choice. They truly believe that they are doing everything in "my best interest." Well, they are NOT doing everything in my best interest. They would do well to just let me decide what is in my best interest.

I do not appreciate the tactics they are taking. They do not have the right to make these decisions for me yet that is precisely what they are doing. They threaten a lawsuit and the companies are knuckling under. Welcome to "Big Brother". Welcome to the beginning of the end of our freedom of choice. If groups like this keep on, we, the basic consumer, will only have the choices THEY approve of.

I agree with Reel-Crazy. My parents also taught me that I can't have everything I see and I have survived just fine. Parents need to take control; their kids should not be controlling them.

In another view of this whole thing, the medical problem of obesity has become the new witch hunt. I wonder what they plan to do with people who don't fit into their perfect world. Burn them at the stake?

These same tactics are causing many young girls (and some boys) to face problems such as bulima today.

I think people need to take a step back and think about what they are doing rather than just blindly rushing into things. We could be replacing a smaller problem with an even bigger one.
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by cosmicfluke June 14, 2007 9:48 AM PDT
It's amazing how a little lawsuit can inspire a little soul-seraching (or, wallet searching).

12 grams of sugar per serving still A-OK!
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by msnooy79 June 14, 2007 9:51 AM PDT
I agree with Reel-Crazy. People should know when to say no to certain foods, and candy. I have 5 kids, and none of them have any kind of problem with obesity. It's up to the parents to portion the foods to a certain limit.
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by williamfold June 14, 2007 10:35 AM PDT
Here's a concept, it's called PARENTING!!!

Not only is our country ovrepopulated, but it's overpopulated with lazy parents raising lazy kids.

Good grief, this country is in real trouble.
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by stezzer June 14, 2007 10:48 AM PDT
How much would Kellogg's have had to pay for all this free advertising?

It will be interesting to see if sales of their sugary cereals decline. My bet is that they wont.

Maybe I'm getting cynical in my old age.
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by nlm2383 June 14, 2007 10:59 AM PDT
This is crazy, I'm 24 years old and I buy Corn Puffs, Froot Loops, Raisin Bran, and Smacks for MYSELF...I don't buy these products because of ads I see on tv, I buy them because they are good to me. If they think that me eating a bowl of this cereal a day is going to make me obese then that is my own fault, no one should be able to tell me what I can and cannot consume.
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by bellal-2009 June 14, 2007 11:56 AM PDT
Oh that's awfully big of you kelogg. we've only been asking for 20 years that you don't market this poison to kids. Now with an epidemic of obesity and coutless numbers of future diabetics you try to make good. Forget it the new health brands of breakfast cereal are far superior and actually have a conscienceness and accountability
And stop with the it's a parent's responsibility when your marketing seductively and consistantly how healthy this poison is. Remember there are many parents who aren't educated nor even speak english.
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by jodaja1983 June 14, 2007 12:04 PM PDT
this is a joke...when i was growing up NO meant no, and a tour up butt settled the bratyness. just another communist move because parents to lazy to do it their beepn self, (so lets sue and get the government involved and let them make our decision for us. when are we americans gonna get it through our heads that if we're fat, its our own faults. get your lazy fat butt off the lazy boy, eat some veggies, and play in the sun. WOW! how simple, and i didn't have to pay the government billions to come up with that...lol
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by bellal-2009 June 14, 2007 12:30 PM PDT
Kellogg must be losing market to health store brand cereal which has made it's way to mainstream grocery stores. It is abhorrent that they've aggressively marketed this garbage to kids for 20 years knowing full well the detrimental health affects this could have. They make it sweeter brighter neon whatever it takes to get kids hooked onthis stuff. Not to mention the Nazi marketing techniques. Corporations have absolutely no accountablity or social consscience.
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by bellal-2009 June 14, 2007 12:34 PM PDT
This is how it works Kellogg, McDonalds, etc. aggressively market using the most high tech behavioral science known, then they make billions then when the public starts dying off from their garbage product and people start connecting the dots (tpe2 diabetes epidemic) then they come in and try to come off as being accountable and also promoting universal health care so guess who gets to pay for their damage. You and me. It's corporate communism.
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by oleander8 June 14, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
"It's up to the parents to portion the foods to a certain limit." [Posted by msnooy79]

Of course it is. But they shouldn't have to fight the brainwashed children when they do so.
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by hypnotoad72 June 14, 2007 1:01 PM PDT
It's up to the parents to limit sugar, quite true. But how to teach little Johnnie that his peers in the classroom that what they are doing is wrong. And we all know what happens to children who are perceived to not be with "the in crowd". :(

Maybe some companies need to be responsible as well...

The same goes for the music and media; corporations who shred the moral envelope because derogatory and incitement-breeding filth will sell can't be bothered to fess up their small part in our current day mess? (those who listen need to remember it's not real and not to base real life action from such incitement, but that's another argument...)

Surely, as a nation, we're all responsible for its current situation to *some* extent? The mantra "nobody owes anybody anything" only leads to anarchy. And guess who complains about anarchy? Usually the same folks who say "nobody owes anybody anything"... irony is funny. Of course, when things change, at some point you can either go along with it or reject it. But I digress.

When everyone is out for himself, people aren't as willing to assist, they have their own needs to look after. This isn't rocket science, it's basic psychology one can learn in their quest to obtain a high school diploma...

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by hypnotoad72 June 14, 2007 1:05 PM PDT
williamfold - I see and don't disagree with your POV, but the whole situation isn't so neat as you make it out to be. Psychological response notwithstanding, how many people have time to raise families because America's cost of living makes spending time at home impossible due to having to spend more time at some job? (And there are other points of view that complicate matters further, not all of them "liberal" ones. I do fathom both sides of the issue...)

I will agree; in grocery stores at 10PM, the parents caving in to screaming obese children who want that candy is not a good sight to behold...
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by rohink-2009 June 14, 2007 1:23 PM PDT
So, parents can't parent anymore because they are too busy. People no longer have any self control or responsibility for their actions. So we need to ban everything. Thank God for Big Government law makers and lawsuits by lawyers or we might have a free society and people would be forced to suffer the consequences of their actions.
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by ralan40 June 14, 2007 1:25 PM PDT
This is a joke. I remember eating smacks when it was called Sugar Smacks. I was never over weight because my parents threw me outside to play. My 3 and 5 year olds see the advertising and if we don't like it, we tell them no. End of story. Our society is a joke. No one ever has to take responsibility for their actions. If you think the cereal is bad for you child, don't buy it. Don't make me suffer because of your incompetence as a parent.
Posted by avanburen at 12:55 PM : Jun 14, 2007

Bravo, avanburen. This probably also sums up a lot of other issues as well.
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by imaok1 June 14, 2007 1:33 PM PDT
Have you all lost your minds? Do you read these articles, or you do just assume and react? Nothing is being banned except marketing to an age group that is incabable of making reasonable decisions on their own. There will still be pleny of sugary cereals for everyone who wants them. It will just be less tantrums for parents when they say "No, that's not healthy." Don't be ignorant- this *** isn't healthy, and shouldn't be touted as acceptabe for children to eat. That does not mean you can't buy it if you want to.
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by rohink-2009 June 14, 2007 1:39 PM PDT
Have you all lost your minds? Do you read these articles, or you do just assume and react? Nothing is being banned except marketing to an age group that is incabable of making reasonable decisions on their own. There will still be pleny of sugary cereals for everyone who wants them. It will just be less tantrums for parents when they say "No, that's not healthy." Don't be ignorant- this *** isn't healthy, and shouldn't be touted as acceptabe for children to eat. That does not mean you can't buy it if you want to.
Posted by imaok1

No, I have not lost my mind and yes I did read the article. I am 50 years old and when I was a child, cereal commercials and toy commercials and candy commercials and snack commercials were marketed to children. Buy, back then, parents were parents. So who has lost their mind? The person that can't control their own lives they need "protection" from the "powers that be" You're the fool.
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by jshmks June 14, 2007 1:55 PM PDT
Maybe they need to limit the nicotine in cigarettes, because adults can't control themselves.

Another pointless arguement. *yawn*
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by srk46-2009 June 14, 2007 2:37 PM PDT
Kelloggs being forced to end it's marketing is just another sign of what is actually happening in the U.S.. We have become a nation of helpless people that need to be told what to do, how to do it, when we can do it, etc. The special interest groups (i.e CSPI, and the list could go on) have decided that we as the American people are too stupid to think for ourselves and make good and right decisions for ourselves, that we need to be told. This my friends is communism in it's new form.
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by d_goddard June 14, 2007 2:38 PM PDT
So... a pressure group hired some lawyers, who threatened Kellogg's with a lawsuit unless they changed their products.

Presumably, they feel that people should not be allowed to freely make their own choices, and to accept the consequences (good or bad) of those actions. Instead, they feel that people should be regulated... coerced by force and threats to make the "right" decisions.

If you feel you should be able to live your life however you want, so long as you are not directly harming someone else, there's good news. Thousands of people who feel the same way are working to be free of these endless small attacks on our freedoms.
freestateproject.org
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by srk46-2009 June 14, 2007 2:41 PM PDT
This garbage all started with the seatbelts...we should use them for our protection and safety. So now everyone wears their seatbelt we have been programed that it is good for us.
From seatbelts the special interest groups moved to cigarettes. Smoking isn't good for us. Now that we have been programed that a smoker is the worst kind of person and we shoouldn't be around that person, employee that person, interact with that group of people. The special interest groups have moved to food. Companies that make cereal, cookies, ice cream etc are at fault they are making us fat. Those companies need to change. People, WAKE UP, it will not be long before only blond haired, blue eyed, a certain height and weight of people will be accepted. Check out your history books and see who is reminds you of.
Our U.S.A. is becoming the U.S.S.R. We are longer the home of the free, our freedoms are being taken away, one by one, if I as a adult want a bowl of cereal and a cigarette afterwards I SHOULD HAVE THAT CHOICE. Wake up before we have no more freedoms left.
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by t-hole2 June 14, 2007 3:28 PM PDT
If your child is obese, it is your fault.
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by simpsonman19 June 14, 2007 4:56 PM PDT
I agree, its not the 10 year old kid driving to the store buying the cereal, it's the parents.
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by lilacs8 June 14, 2007 6:52 PM PDT
It's the parents who buy the cereal, let their kids sit all day in front of game consoles, computers and T.V.s. They send their kids to schools who eliminate Phys Ed. Yet they blame a cereal company for their kids being fat?

When will people start taking responsibility for their own actions?
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by imaok1 June 14, 2007 6:59 PM PDT
"No, I have not lost my mind and yes I did read the article. I am 50 years old and when I was a child, cereal commercials and toy commercials and candy commercials and snack commercials were marketed to children. Buy, back then, parents were parents. So who has lost their mind? The person that can't control their own lives they need "protection" from the "powers that be" You're the fool."

So let's see... at 50, it's reasonable to say you were really the first generation of children heavily marketed to by corporations to eat cheap, sugary junk food that made big profits for them. Your generation grew up, and continued to purchase this food for yoru children, who are now part of the larges group of obese adolesants and children our nation has ever seen. Yeah, you're right, marketing has no effect on kids, and your generation has it all worked out just fine with "how things were." hahahahahaha
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by michellem99-2009 June 14, 2007 8:56 PM PDT
I am 52. I was brought up when NO was said it meant NO.There foods banned. No pop,candy,cake,sweets. My foster Mums had diabetes. We had birthday cake on our birthdays. Once in a great while a dish of ice cream. She banned them for our health. Sorrt here but fat children are made fun of,can't find clothes to fit them, and the like. It is child abuse. We didn't watct TV much growing up. We never heard of computer. We were sent outdoors to play. Play we did. Now the schools and parents are too lazy to have children play and Phy Ed is taken out of school. So it is our business as we pay taxes to the schools. Cut the junk out.It is pure sugar. If parents did then all the better. Kids may whine but you have the power to mean No.
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by dmk3 June 14, 2007 11:12 PM PDT
Actually, there was mention of reformulating some of the cereals.(Iread the article).If redirecting the marketing is not an option. So.....marketing to kids 6 and up. Oh yeah, they won't become obese. And to compare them GM, what a hoot. Lucky Charms may be whole grain once you remove the pink hearts, yelllow moons, orange stars, green clovers, and blue diamonds! Give me a freakin break. Let the people do what they want to do. Discipline starts at home. Surely you can take your children to the store at any hour and not be 'tantrumed' into buying what they want. Again, I say....BE THE PARENT
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by erasmus6 June 15, 2007 12:39 AM PDT
d_goddard

"Presumably, they feel that people should not be allowed to freely make their own choices and to accept the consequences (good or bad) of those actions."

"If you feel you should be able to live your life however you want, so long as you are not directly harming someone else..."

The problem is that it is the parents making the choices to buy these things for children. Children don't know any better. There are so many parents out there that have no backbone when it comes to saying NO to their kids. AND the kids are the ones paying for it. It is one thing if you want the freedom to choose bad foods for yourself but another that you choose them for your children just because they are crying that they want something and you can't say no. If you are choosing these kinds of things for your kids, you ARE "directly harming" them. It is up to the parents to make good choices for their children until they are old enough to know the consequences of eating that kind of food, themselves.

With so much childhood obesity, parents need to wake up.
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by bellal-2009 June 15, 2007 12:47 AM PDT
Well let's just say it like it is. Parents have been dumbed down along with everything else in society. We used to have basic norms for politeness and obscenity, no longer true. We used to have stay at home moms who cooked for their family. We used to have an economy based oneone income. Parents used to make kids eat right, go to bed early on school nights, not swear, be polite, do their homework, etc. That's not the norm anymore.
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by erasmus6 June 15, 2007 1:37 AM PDT
bellaL

"That's not the norm anymore."

You've got that right!

You have some parents who are tired when they get home from work and just can't deal with all their other responsibilities. Then you have parents that are just plain and simply LAZY.
Sometimes both parents don't need to work but they are greedy and having MORE money is more important than staying home and raising their own kids, instead of a babysitter doing it.

I am trying to understand why these people have children. No one should have children unless they are going to live up to their responsibilities with raising them. That means it don't matter whether they are tired or not, they chose to have kids, so they need to get off their a-s-ses and start looking after them.
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by moxichick June 15, 2007 2:57 AM PDT
OK, here is my happy medium. My husband & I work F/T outside the home to make ends meet. Our son does NOT watch TV and reads books! Gasp! He eats a hot breakfast every morning, gets a packed lunch & a healthy dinner w/ green vegetables. Now, here is the kicker! We allow him 'junk cereal' as a dessert. Instead of ice cream or a chocolate bar he is allowed to eat a small bowl of junk cereal (T-Tiger, Cookie Crisp, etc.) w/ low fat organic milk. This way he gets to enjoy (on occasion) what his friends are eating for breakfast. I've shared this secret w/ many parents and they love it. The box lasts us about 3 weeks in an air tight container.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 15, 2007 2:58 AM PDT
While it is true that Americans simply eat too much, and too much that is not healthy or nutritious, also consider this, when the sponsors pull their dollars from children's programming, including the beneficial and educational kind, then such programming will simply disappear.

To all who complain about the quality of TV, how do you propose to raise the standards of television, if the capital for production is cut?

Some of the "golden age of television" programs of the late fifties and early sixties, including news, was sponsored by cigarettes, some of sport's truly historic moments were captured for posterity by cameras sponsored by beer.

Jazz festivals, which were important to the development of a truly American music form, and the epitome of cultural cooperation, were sponsored by Kool, Newport, even Playboy magazine.

Now most jazz is history, as its' traditional sponsors were forbidden to display, the festivals, clubs and other events where artists could make a living simply went extinct, so now you have such as Mariah Carey and Justin Timberlake as the standard of musical excellence...
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by brianbwb-2009 June 15, 2007 3:28 AM PDT
to bellaL

You sound as if you have seen a few years, please don't forget there used to be a time when one man's income could actually raise a family. The fact that it is no longer possible is not due to consumer greed, rather producer greed, the cost of living has risen much faster than the average income, any statistic covering the past 40 years will confirm the truth of this.

Moxichick,

You and your other both work FT just to make ends meet. This means there can be no stable parental presence constantly at home that can truly prioritize familial norms. Your list of what he "is allowed to eat", and "doesn't watch TV"
suggests that his future will be filled with unhealthy inhibitions, low self esteem, and fear to express himself in a healthy manner, or, in a rebellious burst of pent up, suppressed emotion, harm himself and/or others. It is a common occurrence, and since you both work FT, how do you know it is not already happening?
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by grammawhamma June 15, 2007 4:15 AM PDT
A lot of parents are no longer the ones in charge..their kids are. Ok...try to feed a kid who is used to getting presweetened cereal a less sweet cereal. This is what will happen...the kids will whine that they won't eat it until their weak parents give in and dump a load of sugar on the non sweetened cereal. Then an expensive study will come out to determine that even though the sales of sweet cereals are down...why are kids still obese. Kids aren't obese just because of their sugar intake...kids have craved sugar since it was discovered. The obesity comes from the lack of activety to burn the sugar off. I blame playstations and TV but mostly the parents that give in to their kids every whim.
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by grammawhamma June 15, 2007 5:24 AM PDT
This might be somewhat off the track...but please read anyway. We complain about over population and the dwindling social security funds and condone abortion to control population growth. Yet we get all excited about and support medical technology that keeps us going to a ripe old age. We complain about the smokers, the drinkers and the obese. We have laws for mandatory seat belt use. We call 911 and call out police forces when a suicide potential is teetering on a bridge railing screaming "I want to die". Don't get me wrong...I am by far not a cold hearted person. But let the smokers smoke outside or in their own homes. Let the alcoholics drink but not drive. Let the suicides jump if they must. Let people risk their lives driving with no seat belt if they want to. Let the obese eat themselves to death. I know health care is expensive and thus we want everyone else to be healthy as to not drive up the costs. This sounds awful but it might be an incentive for people to live a healthier life style. Lower the retirement age to age 60, collect full social security benefits and medicare etc at age 60. But then at age 72 you agree to become a DNR. No CRP, no ventilators, no exta-ordinary means to keep you alive. Of course this doesn't mean a stop on all medications, hospitalizations or surgeries etc. Think about it. BTW I'm not that young...I'm a babyboomer.
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by methodb June 15, 2007 7:40 AM PDT
It is stories like these that make me fear for the future of our great nation more than homegrown terrorist networks. These kind of decisions which remove more responsibility from individuals give more power to those who have taken it upon themselves to tell people how they should live their lives. This kind of thinking creates oppression. This oppression adds to the bubble that inevitably someday will burst and people will lash out against those who oppress. Organizations like the Center for Science in the Public Interest eerily reflects the writings of Ayn Rand. I know these are works of fiction, but everyday I see these stories become more and more the truth.
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by lalawhatsnex June 15, 2007 2:42 PM PDT
while I don't like the fact that Kellogs was scared into this decision I love that they made the decision.
uh, two points....
*if people need more sugar they can add it to their bowl via the sugar bowl.
*If parents don't want their kids to have sugar loaded cereal they should just say no......thats what I did when my kids were little.
so silly being afraid of your kids eh?
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by erasmus6 June 15, 2007 7:51 PM PDT
"Your list of what "is allowed to eat , and doesn't watch t.v." suggests that his future will be filled with unhealthy inhibitions..." posted by brianbwb

brian, you need to get a grip!

Now as far as both parents working, there was a study done that showed if both parents worked your kid would probably end up being a juvenile delinquent. Even if one parent worked full time and the other only worked part time.
And from what I have seen with the people around me, I would say they were right!
I myself, stayed home with my kids. It was tough, but it was worth it. I know that a lot of people don't have that option, but there are also many that do.
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by erasmus6 June 15, 2007 8:06 PM PDT
GrammaWhamma

About "over population", don't worry, with all you gun toting Americans shooting each other, it should be no time at all before you start noticing a definite decrease in population. :)
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by michellem99-2009 June 15, 2007 8:42 PM PDT
It is the parents who buy the food. They plan the meals as well as the school lunch staff at the children's schools. The sad thing is the healthy food is priced so high that us older can't afford it.So it is cheap stuff. I feel parents need to put their foot to lil whiny Jo/Joe and mean NO. Years age children were not medicated. Mum today will have her child medicated cos she is to d@M lazy to raise them.Now step upto the plate learn parenting skills or don't have children you can't take care of. I am 52 .
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by botate22 June 16, 2007 7:07 PM PDT
OH MY BLESSED LORD, HAVE WE FORGOT SO SOON HOW WE WERE RAISED ...I AM 26 YEARS OLD I HAVE TAKEN RESPONSIBILTY FOR A TWO CHILDREN THAT ARENT MINE BUT OVER THE COURSE OVER 6 YEARS IN THE RELATIONSHIP I CALL THEM MY OWN. NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID I MAKE A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY SO I CAN CHOOSE WHAT THE KIDS WANT FOR BREAKFAST WITH A LITTLE HELP FOM MY KIDS (NOW 13 AND 8)NOW CANT WE ALL AGREE "NO" MEANS "NO" TO THE UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN AWAY OUR WONDERFUL CARTOON CHARACTERS BECAUSE THEIR INCOMPETENCE TO CONTROL THEIR CHILDS DIET....YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF FOR EVEN BLAMING A CEREAL COMPANY THAT PERHAPS YOU STILL SECRETLY LOVE, MAYBE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES SHOULD STEP IN AND TEACH YOU HOW TO HOLD YOUR CHILD ACCOUNTABLE AND ALSO HOW TO SAY "NO"... ITS STUFF LIKE THIS THAT KEEPS THIS COUNTRY APART ...GIVE YOUR SELF A GUT CHECK.. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU HAVE WON THE HEARTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY COMPLAINING UNTIL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT, U MAY HAVE A FEW SUPPORTERS THUS I THINK YOU HAVE LOST REPSECT PEOPLE YOU DONT KNOW,, MY KIDS ARE SKINNY AND HEALTHY WHY SHOULD THEY BE PUNISHED FOR YOUR FAT KID!!! NOW MY GROCERY SHOPPING EXPERIENCE IS EVEN MORE DEPRESSING BECAUSE THE "PICKING OUT THE CEREAL PART" IS LOST FOREVER...AND AS FOR KELLOGGS I STILL LOVE YA! WE KNOW YOUR CARTOONS ARE THERE AT HEART....GIVE TONY THE TIGER AND THE OTHERS SOME LOVE
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by grammawhamma June 17, 2007 3:47 AM PDT
I can't believe that adults can let little toddlers become "morbidly" obese...as I have seen the on Dr. Phil show etc. This is child abuse!! If parents were starving their child...they would be arrested and the child removed from that home. These little kids can't jump in the car and use the debit card to purchase junk food...the problem is that parents feed them whatever they whine for to shut them up. Another article on CBS right now is about diet pills for fat dogs that can't control their appetite...give me a break!! My dogs don't raid the fridge at night when I'm sleeping they eat what I give them and they are at healthy weights.
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