Couple's Bodies Found At Recycling Plants

Homeless Couple Apparently Went To Sleep In Paper Recycling Containers; Found 1,000 Miles Apart

(AP)  Two people whose bodies were found at paper recycling plants more than 1,000 miles apart were a homeless couple who apparently went to sleep in a recycling container before its contents were compacted, police said Tuesday.

Officials said there were no obvious signs of foul play.

One body was found last week at the Abitibi Consolidated plant in Snowflake, Ariz., about 175 miles northeast of Phoenix. It was positively identified Tuesday as Thomas Jansen, 53, a south St. Louis County man missing since late last month, authorities said.

The Navajo County, Ariz., sheriff's office told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that workers at the Snowflake plant found the body in a large container used to collect material rejected in the paper recycling process.

Using railroad documents, investigators determined that a large bale of material had been shipped to the Arizona plant from the St. Louis area. Jansen's body was identified from partial fingerprints and a description on an expired driver's license.

The body of Jansen's wife, Susan, 48, was found May 24 on a conveyor belt at a recycling center in north St. Louis.

Police believe both of the Jansens, who had recently become homeless, had gone to sleep in a recycling container in south St. Louis County in Missouri before the container's contents were emptied into a truck and compacted.

[gmond]

eww

[taylpatr]

To jodaja1983-It is a real struggle for many of us out here.More people are living from paycheck to paycheck and are one months pay from being put out in the street.The reason the government is responsible and people can't just "get out and get a job" is that the capitalists that run ouir economy have made it profitable, and it's become an accepted practice, to "outsource" jobs to other countries.As long as our government gives these corporations huge tax breaks and still permits them to be headquartered in the U.S., they will go for the profit, no matter the cost to American families.Kimberley-Clark shut down two plants last year, one in Utah and another in Idaho. Both of these plants assembled stomache tubes to be used for surgery.Now, the stomache tubes are made in Mexico, in a village with no flush toilets.But they left the Huggies plant in Ogden, Utah. As long as these capitalist
pigs are allowed to screw their fellow Americans and keep putting people on the street, we're going to see more and more of these un-nessecary evils.Boycott Kimberley-Clark and as many of these corporations as you can. The only thing that gets their attention is money, or the loss of it.

[noview1]

Actually mmcminn3 it's 10 Million. Even worse.

[jodaja1983]

my wife and i live paycheck to paycheck. we cant both work because daycare would take most of my wifes check. we had to figure out a budget that works for us and work hard on a daily basis. we live on $12.75 an hour have 2 dependable vehicles, a small but nice home. Pay for medical ins through my employer and buy our own groceries. I just dont understand why all these people are living off of american tax dollars and not having to get out there and get a job. why should we have to pay for there free money, and why should the government be blaimed because their aren't jobs out there. WE DIDNT GET OUR FREEDOM FROM THE GOVERNMENT, OUR FOUR FATHERS FOUGHT FOR IT, and so should we. the government should be relied on to keep order. i pray every day that all this countryies b/s and pointing the fingure doesnt lead my grandkids into a communist country and the government telling them how to spend their money because their parents depended on them for groceries, diapers, and dr bills

[grammawhamma]

ceethomas. I am glad to hear that you do your part and more. What angers me are those people that whine about everything but do nothing actively to change the situation. The world needs more "doers". Yes, I do my part where and when I can.

[ceethomas]

GrammaWhamma

Yes to all and even MORE than you can imagine. And that is why I see clearly what has happened to my country in the past six years. Do YOU work all day, as well as the local food bank, volunteering at the polls, helping out at your local schools, nonprofit organizations, etc.?

[padams1010]

coffeehead ...

Wow ... "farming our homeless into "trade" peons" ... "We don't need "trades" - low paying , government trained minions." ... "Many of these people deserve better from you all." YOUR remarks to my suggestions for HELPING the homeless GET BACK ON THEIR FEET!! Teaching them a trade (a.k.a. JOB)they can TAKE OUT (on their own two feet) of the shelter into the working world. You think "these people" deserve better from "all of you"? What's better than an honest days work for an honest days pay?? Go ahead, pinhead ... what's your solution? Soup kitchens under the a bridge somewhere ... or better yet ... sleeping quarters in the recycle bin!!

[mmcminn3]

1 billion Muslims and 1 percent are willing to give their life to the cause. That equals, ok I will do the math, 1 million. I may not be PC but am wise. You don't have to listen or think about it. You could just click the X.

[ceethomas]

mmcminn3

HUH? Who is "they" doing the nuking?

Fight them till the bitter end? Who is "them?"

What "truth" hurts?

Are you hiding in a bunker, living in the woods, or what?

[mmcminn3]

Grandma, I think he does vote. Putting more liberals in charge of the schools, that move the kids through like cattle so they don't have to re"teach" them next year and then wonder why they can't hold down a job. The public schools and the NEA keep saying "throw us more money" and the result is no discipline and complete waste. Japan is laughing at us on that one.

[grammawhamma]

ceethomas. Do you vote in every election?? Do you get off your computer chair and volunteer your time to help those less fortunate then you?? Do you donate to local food pantries that feed the homeless?? I hope your answer is yes to all of the above.

[coffeehead-2009]

Tell me...is there any story that you so called people do not turn into a political debate!!?? Padams1010 your idea sounds worth a try. :)

You don't think homelessness is a political issue? I find it amusing that folks who have no conception of others situation. And as far as farming our homeless into "trade" peons? What is that? Many of these people deserve better from you all. They have already worked their way out of the mill house - these "shelters" are horrid and full of disease - degrading and humiliating. Isolation and even considering that our current system "train" these people is scary - I sure hope too many other citizens agree with this. The thought so reminds me of putrid - housing and handling of GOOD people for bad reasons. We don't need "trades" - low paying , government trained minions. We need independent careers and honorable pride building encouragement.

Find the FEMA Concentration Camp Near You!

updated 8-23-06

http://www.greatdreams.com/concentration-camp-locations.htm

[mmcminn3]

Inarticulate as the truth may be, Democracy can not prevail in a Muslim dominated country, but we still can run. The next president will also realize the mistakes of Clinton as well as both Bush 1 and 2 in not making a dent in Al Queda has cost us dearly (forever). They have a plan to Nuke 7 U.S. cities at the same time, go ahead blame Bush. We have to fight them till the bitter end, regardless of the cost. The truth hurts, but it will come quicker if we run and bury our head in the sand of the great USA.

[ubrew12]

"The federal government also contributed to the growing gap between the rich and middle-class." Posted by coffeehead at 02:50 PM : Jun 13, 2007
I guess I meant all those anti-tax administrations leading up to the Depression.

"If Obama were president, we'd all be livin in da land of strawberry soda!"Posted by infidel_us at 03:59 PM : Jun 13, 2007
Thirty years of supply-side economics won't be overturned by Obama alone, or anytime soon. But, true, hard to say exactly what caused this homelessness.

[ceethomas]

GrammaWhamma

This story is about a "recent" homeless couple. It most DEFINITELY spurs political debate. Why wouldn't it? Or are you so comfortably placed in your rocking chair you don't care about other people and how the actions of this government have affected so many people's lives? Where's all those so-called christian organizations that get money from the shrub's government to help people in need? Oh wait, maybe that money is being used to spread more of their pathetic and filthy doctrine.

[jsilver2th]

infidel_us: "livin in da land of strawberry soda" ????

You're skin head bashing biggot or the mail quit coming to your trailer park and you couldn't finish your mail order GED?

[infidel_us]

The parents of the bride said, "it won't last." This is obviously Bush/Chaney/Halliburtin/heartless republican's problem. If Obama were president, we'd all be livin in da land of strawberry soda!

[grammawhamma]

Tell me...is there any story that you so called people do not turn into a political debate!!?? Padams1010 your idea sounds worth a try. :)

[padams1010]

I have made this suggestion before ... but here it goes again. Why doesn't he government take the military bases it closes and turn the bases into homeless shelters and rehabilitation centers. Teach the families/people that come to live on the base jobs that help keep the base running ... give each family a time span for how long they can stay on base, learn a trade, and then move on. Do you have any idea HOW many trades/jobs there are on a military base ... jobs that a portable anywhere in the USA. Think about it ... kill two birds with one stone. House the homeless but teach them how to take care and run the base ... give them skills they can take out in the world. I'm telling you ... it could be done!!

[coffeehead-2009]

ubrew12
funny you said that -- coolidge also..
does this sound deja-vu?


Main Causes of the Great Depression

As production costs fell quickly, wages rose slowly, and prices remained constant, the bulk benefit of the increased productivity went into corporate profits. In fact, from 1923-1929 corporate profits rose 62% and dividends rose 65%10.

The federal government also contributed to the growing gap between the rich and middle-class. Calvin Coolidge's administration (and the conservative-controlled government) favored business, and as a result the wealthy who invested in these businesses. An example of legislation to this purpose is the Revenue Act of 1926, signed by President Coolidge on February 26, 1926, which reduced federal income and inheritance taxes dramatically11. Andrew Mellon, Coolidge's Secretary of the Treasury, was the main force behind these and other tax cuts throughout the 1920's. In effect, he was able to lower federal taxes such that a man with a million-dollar annual income had his federal taxes reduced from $600,000 to $200,00012. Even the Supreme Court played a role in expanding the gap between the socioeconomic classes. In the 1923 case Adkins v. Children's Hospital, the Supreme Court ruled minimum-wage legislation unconstitutional13.

The large and growing disparity of wealth between the well-to-do and the middle-income citizens made the U.S. economy unstable.