BAGHDAD, June 11, 2007

3 GIs Killed In Baghdad Bridge Blast

Six Soldiers Wounded As Bomb Hits Bridge Checkpoint; Former Sunni Foes Asked For Help

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      A U.S. soldier runs by a bridge destroyed by an apparent suicide vehicle bomber on June 10, 2007,outside Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad, Iraq.  (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

    • U.S. troops and private security guards, in black, work to remove concrete rubble from atop wounded soldiers, at a bridge destroyed by an apparent suicide vehicle bomber on Sunday, June 10, 2007, outside Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad. Photo

      U.S. troops and private security guards, in black, work to remove concrete rubble from atop wounded soldiers, at a bridge destroyed by an apparent suicide vehicle bomber on Sunday, June 10, 2007, outside Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad.  (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

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      A U.S. soldier runs after a bridge was destroyed by an apparent suicide bomber on Sunday, June 10, 2007,outside Mahmoudiya.  (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

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(CBS/AP)  With a thunderous rumble and cloud of dust and smoke, a suicide car bomb brought down a section of highway bridge south of Baghdad on Sunday, killing three U.S. soldiers and wounding six from a checkpoint guarding the crossing and blocking traffic on Iraq's main north-south artery.

The U.S. military said engineers were dispatched with bulldozers and other heavy equipment to clear the highway, which was partially blocked by debris from the overpass. An Iraqi interpreter also was wounded in the attack, according to the statement that gave the casualty toll.

Donald Campbell, a 40-year-old Scot with the private security firm Armor Group International, and his colleagues were in a passing convoy and worked with a U.S. Army quick reaction force for some 45 minutes to pull trapped men from the rubble, scrambling over the fallen concrete.

U.S. armored vehicles provided cover fire from their cannons after the bombing, which occurred in the area dubbed the "triangle of death" for its frequent Sunni insurgent attacks.

The blast dropped one of two sections of the "Checkpoint 20" bridge, which crosses over the north-south expressway, six miles east of Mahmoudiya.

It appeared that a northbound suicide driver stopped and detonated his vehicle beside a support pillar, said Lt. Col. Garry Bush, an Army munitions officer who was in the convoy, which also carried an Associated Press reporter and photographer and arrived two minutes after the blast.

A U.S. Army checkpoint and a tent structure, apparently a rest area, fell into the shattered concrete. The crossing was believed to have been closed to all but military traffic at the time.

Armor Group security guards, all ex-military, and others in the convoy rushed to the ruins. They found a scene of confusion.

"When that size blast went off, everyone was in shock," said one of the first atop the rubble, Jackie Smith, 53, a former lieutenant colonel now working as a civilian Army munitions expert.

He said he saw what he believed was the engine block of a truck — apparently what remained of the suicide vehicle.

Soon the outpost sergeant in charge was organizing a search for his missing men, Smith said. The Armor Group team climbed up with first-aid kits, stretchers and other aid.

With the Army's quick reaction force, they struggled to lift concrete shards off the men, pinned along the slope of what was once a roadway. At one point, a Bradley armored vehicle with a tow chain pulled a slab off a pinned victim to free him.

Then a shout went up, "Morphine! Morphine!" and a black T-shirt-clad Briton administered painkiller to the freed man.

"Another poor fellow looked crushed beneath a concrete slab," said the Armor Group's Campbell.

During the rescue operation, U.S. armored vehicles opened up with suppressing fire, possibly having spotted movement in the surrounding countryside, flat and baking in 100-degree-plus Fahrenheit temperatures.

In other developments:

  • The House of Commons on Monday rejected a motion by Britain's opposition Conservative Party calling for a formal inquiry into the decision to go to war in Iraq. By a vote of 288 to 253, the lower house of parliament sided with Prime Minister Tony Blair, who has ruled out such an inquiry while British troops are deployed in Iraq.

  • The U.S. military on Sunday reported the deaths of three other American troops. Among them were a U.S. airman killed in a roadside bombing in southern Iraq; and two soldiers — one killed in Baghdad and another who died of injuries in Diyala Province. The deaths raised to at least 3,509 members of the U.S. military who have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

  • A suicide truck bomber struck an Iraqi police office in Tikrit Sunday, killing at least 15 people and wounding 50, police said. The explosion destroyed a building housing the highway police directorate in the Albu Ajil village on the eastern outskirts of ousted leader Saddam Hussein's hometown, a police officer said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of security concerns. Tikrit is 80 miles north of Baghdad.

  • Even as the United States has condemned Sudan for its role in the mass killings in Darfur, the Sudanese regime has secretly worked with the CIA to spy on insurgents in Iraq, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times.

  • The Iraqi parliament voted Monday in a closed session to remove the speaker after a series of scandals involving the controversial lawmaker, legislators said. Mahmoud al-Mashhadani will be replaced by another Sunni Arab, they said. Al-Mashhadani's behavior has repeatedly embarrassed the Sunni Arab partners in Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's coalition government. Many of the house's 275 legislators viewed his behavior as unbecoming and, on occasion, erratic.

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    by June 11, 2007 7:34 AM PDT
    GW Bush's pathetic administration has been telling us for the past few years that Iraqi soldiers are able to take over control of much of our duties.

    Clearly this is just one more lie that this corrupt and pathetic administration has been telling the American public.

    If Iraqi troops are able to take control, then why are we still guarding bridges?

    Why aren't Iraqi troops doing the very basics like guarding bridges instead of leaving our troops exposed?
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    by June 11, 2007 7:46 AM PDT
    And now we are dealing with those same insurgents/terrorists that this administration said we would never deal with - insurgents/terrorists that have killed Americans.

    I wonder whose plan that was?
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 8:22 AM PDT
    We should conduct air strikes against Iran for the aid and training they give Iraq and AQ insurgents, and for the equipment and supplies they send there.

    While were are doing that, we should conduct additional operations with our biggest bunker busters on some of the hidden nuclear facilities in thier country.

    Find out how hot headed they get when they figure out that they dont have any chance against us when we move against them. The whole region will be safer.
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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 8:25 AM PDT
    more senseless death

    in a senseless war -

    authored by bushit

    a man without any sense of decency


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    by zootallures2 June 11, 2007 8:29 AM PDT
    Well, we have world wide comunications. TV, radio, internet, cell phones... Let's get the head of the UN on them all for a week to arrange a day when everyone in the world can go out in the streets, hold hands, and sing a Mister Rogers song.
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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 8:32 AM PDT
    Find out how hot headed they get when they figure out that they dont have any chance against us when we move against them. The whole region will be safer.
    Posted by pwrslm

    you and lieberman have alot in common.

    why don't you both enlist, or better, admit you're

    not American, and go back to israel.

    you'd be doing us a great favor.




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    by hugepeter June 11, 2007 8:33 AM PDT
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 8:37 AM PDT

    you and lieberman have alot in common.
    why don't you both enlist, or better, admit you're
    not American, and go back to israel.
    you'd be doing us a great favor.
    Posted by neoconRcrazy at

    Actually halfwit, Im not a ball less wonder like you, I was born in the USA, and I fought for the USA as an Airborne Ranger, so get your stinking head out of your arse and figure out that nothing you have said has any value beyond your own mind.

    This country was not built on cowardice and compromise. We either stand up for Justice, or we die. There is no other way to keep our freedom.
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    by hugepeter June 11, 2007 8:39 AM PDT
    really bad for the u.s soldiers. If you want to get low rate american express credit cards check out http://www.credit-card-gallery.com
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    by zootallures2 June 11, 2007 8:40 AM PDT
    Instead of arguing... everyone hold hands and sing:

    It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
    A beautiful day for a neighbor.
    Would you be mine?
    Could you be mine?...

    It's a neighborly day in this beauty wood,
    A neighborly day for a beauty.
    Would you be mine?
    Could you be mine?...

    I've always wanted to have a neighbor just like you.
    I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

    So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
    Since we're together we might as well say:
    Would you be mine?
    Could you be mine?
    Won't you be my neighbor?
    Won't you please,
    Won't you please?
    Please won't you be my neighbor?


    ... come on! I can't hear you!
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 8:43 AM PDT
    There is nothing going on in Iran that 5000 cruise missles would not cure.

    See if they can swat them out of the air, eh? What do you think those towels on thier heads are for, to keep flies out of thier hair?

    Wake up people, Iran has been itching for conflict with the USA for decades. We should give it to them!!
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    by antoniof123 June 11, 2007 8:44 AM PDT
    pwrslm fighting for America is just when you are doing it for a just cause. Howerver, when you are killing for the sake of big business and big religion then it is just another type of Facism.
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    by hungry1968 June 11, 2007 8:47 AM PDT
    "U.S. commanders have been turning to some Sunni groups in Iraq - formerly considered enemies - to join the fight against al Qaeda, according to a report in the New York Times. The report says some of the groups are suspected of past attacks on U.S. troops, and the military acknowledges the inherent risks of the plan. Some weaponry has been provided to the groups, usually via the Iraqi military."

    "There are tribal sheiks out there who say 'Hey, just allow me to be the local security force. I don't care what you call me. ... You can call me whatever you want. Just give me the right training and equipment and I'll secure my area.' And that's the direction we're moving out there," the Third Infantry Division commander said."
    "They say: 'We hate you because you are an occupier, but we hate al Qaeda worse and we hate the Persians (Iranians) even worse".

    So now we're providing weapons and training to the people that attack us, based on the fact that they hate us, but they hate our enemies worse? Even the war mongering neo-cons should be shaking their heads at this. WOW!! Just when you think that there's no way at all, that it could possibly get any worse than it already is, we get this story.
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    by lars008-2009 June 11, 2007 8:48 AM PDT
    Posted by antoniof123 at 08:44 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    fighting for America is just when you are doing it for a just cause like fighting another type of Facism.
    Posted by antoniof123 at 08:44 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    FASCIST NAZI ISLAM / PERFECT EXAMPLE OF FASCISM!!!

    Fascist nazi islam is intent on killing or enslaving all non muslims......

    The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.

    Simply stated, a fascist government always has one class of citizens that is considered superior (good) to another (bad) based upon race, creed or origin. It is possible to be both a republic and a fascist state. The preferred class lives in a republic while the oppressed class lives in a fascist state.
    http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm
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    by zootallures2 June 11, 2007 8:51 AM PDT
    There is nothing going on in Iran that 5000 cruise missles would not cure.

    See if they can swat them out of the air, eh? What do you think those towels on thier heads are for, to keep flies out of thier hair?

    Wake up people, Iran has been itching for conflict with the USA for decades. We should give it to them!!
    Posted by pwrslm at 08:43 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    Maybe we should send Big Bird to talk to Mr. Bush and Mr. Ahamadinejad so they see how much more fun it is when we are all friends and love and help each other.
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 8:52 AM PDT
    oh, give me a break!!

    you morons are sucking into a polical frey so deeply that you can not figure out who the real enemy is....its not Bush, its not the Republicans, its the ayatollahs and mullahs who are intent on imposing thier will at any cost on whoever they want....

    No matter, your not sensible enough to manipulate the politics sufficiently to hide the real truth, nor are you intelligent enough to figure out that no matter who was in the Executive Office, we would still have this mess to deal with.

    Bush didnt put us into the middle of this showdown, our fathers, and thier fathers before them, all that way back hundreds of years, did that when they began fighting against the islamicization of the world over a thousand years ago.

    No more mental midgets spewing half witted rhetoric, PLEEZ, you dont have anything worth posting, believe it, its true.
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    by drummer94 June 11, 2007 8:53 AM PDT
    We team up with the enemy,sweep and clear all alkida, then they start fightin' us again. What a friggin' mess George got us into eh?
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    by zootallures2 June 11, 2007 8:55 AM PDT
    That's not nice, Mr. lars008. Muslims are people in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood...

    We should all play nice and share our candy. Because we're all special and so are you.
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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 8:58 AM PDT
    I fought for the USA as an Airborne Ranger, so get your stinking head ...Posted by pwrslm


    I was born in America and am a trained Boy Scout, Eagle Class - and know all the knot tying tricks - so you don't stand a chance dude.

    Your foreign policy perspectives are, well, simplistic? Anyway, you probably can tie your own shoes but as for your cry for Justice or Death, why don't you put your ideas to the test yourself and get your arse over there?

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    by hungry1968 June 11, 2007 8:58 AM PDT
    "This country was not built on cowardice and compromise. We either stand up for Justice, or we die. There is no other way to keep our freedom."
    Posted by pwrslm at 08:37 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    You said it perfectly - THIS country. But unfortunately, our security and freedom have been compromised by the dire situation that the Republican party has put us in. Iraq has nothing to do with OUR freedom, OUR liberty, or justice for the American people. I should say it HAD nothing to do with us - thanks to Bush, it's now our countries' main focus. Instead of fixing the health care system, the education system, building up our defenses against terrorism, etc.
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    by lars008-2009 June 11, 2007 9:10 AM PDT
    That's not nice, Mr. lars008. Muslims are people in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood...

    We should all play nice and share our candy. Because we're all special and so are you.
    Posted by zootallures2 at 08:55 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    name one islamic country that grants EQUAL rights to non muslims???

    Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

    For example, in 1981, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, articulated the position of his country regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by saying that the UDHR was "a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition", which could not be implemented by Muslims without trespassing the Islamic law.

    http://www.un.org/terrorism/
    http://www.un.org/terrorism/strategy-counter-terrorism.html
    http://www.un.org/

    But the accepted assumption in India is that most of India's Muslims were converted to Islam through the sword. Meaning the Indians were given an option between death or adopting Islam. The third option was getting examined in Islam religion along with heavy taxes- Jeziya (poll tax) and Kharaj (property tax).

    http://adaniel.tripod.com/Islam.htm

    this is what fascist nazi islam calls peace....

    are you ready to live under islam rule as a non muslim???

    apartheid fascist nazi islamic style

    Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
    http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/islamic_state.htm
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    by lars008-2009 June 11, 2007 9:12 AM PDT
    how many mullahs have committed suicide bombing???

    don't they want their 72 virgins???

    or do they know it is BS...
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    by June 11, 2007 9:14 AM PDT
    irishbitch11 wrote:

    "the iraqi troops won't stand up while we are there.Why should they die when our so called president is putting our Troops in harms way."

    I absolutely agree.
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    by bareemperor June 11, 2007 9:16 AM PDT
    Just checking in on how that 'surge' is doing...
    Hmmm, same Shiite, different day.
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    by June 11, 2007 9:18 AM PDT
    pwrslm wrote:

    "No more mental midgets spewing half witted rhetoric, PLEEZ, you dont have anything worth posting, believe it, its true."

    I guess that's the last we'll be seeing of you then.
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 9:20 AM PDT
    I guess that's the last we'll be seeing of you then.
    Posted by mcdazz

    Well, at least you cant claim your trying to impress us with your intelligence, eh?
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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 9:25 AM PDT
    name one islamic country that grants EQUAL rights to non muslims???


    Posted by lars008


    name one jewish country that grants equal rights to non-jews?



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    by lars008-2009 June 11, 2007 9:31 AM PDT
    name one jewish country that grants equal rights to non-jews?
    Posted by neoconRcrazy at 09:25 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    there is only one jewish country haji...

    Arab citizens of Israel............ Israel's Declaration of Independence called for equal treatment under the law of all its citizens, regardless of their beliefs or national origin. Arab Israelis have had political representation since the state's first parliamentary assembly; currently, thirteen members of the Israeli Parliament are Arab-Israeli, most representing majority Arab political parties. An Arab-Israeli judge also sits on the Supreme Court,[11] and an Arab Israeli is next in line to the acting presidency (and has assumed role as such for a week-long period).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

    Myths & Facts Online Human Rights in Israel and the Territories
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 9:31 AM PDT
    You said it perfectly - THIS country. But unfortunately, our security and freedom have been compromised by the dire situation that the Republican party has put us in. Iraq has nothing to do with OUR freedom, OUR liberty, or justice for the American people. I should say it HAD nothing to do with us - thanks to Bush, it's now our countries' main focus. Instead of fixing the health care system, the education system, building up our defenses against terrorism, etc.
    Posted by hungry1968

    Oh cmon, you dont really believe this BS, do ya?

    This thing started when we repelled Iraq out of Kuwait. Billy boy Clinton left our soldier in harms way for 2 terms without resolving the situation that kept them there. He turned a blind eye to reality so he could entertain himself in the Oval Office with cigars and what not....You cant put the blame on the Republicans because the Democrats didnt have the courage to do it. NO MATTER WHO WAS PRESIDENT, it was going to happen. If Billy BJ Clinton would have delt with this thing, it would have prevented the billions that went into Saddams coffers, and prevented the further corruption of the oil for food program, instead of enabling it.

    The funniest part is this, that people who shirk jistice are the same ones promoting the democrate parties politics, and condemning Bush (who is the only candidate for 2 elections that had the moral courage to do what had to be done).
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    by lars008-2009 June 11, 2007 9:34 AM PDT
    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

    It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

    USA's PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!

    "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
    --John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

    "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

    One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

    Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 9:35 AM PDT
    Ghost Town: Israel's Separation Policy and Forced Eviction of Palestinians from the Center of Hebron


    Over the years, Israel established a number of settlement points in and around the Old City of Hebron, which had traditionally served as the commercial center for the entire southern West Bank . Israeli law-enforcement authorities and security forces have made the entire Palestinian population pay the price for protecting Israeli settlement in the city. To this end, the authorities impose a regime intentionally and openly based on the "separation principle" (apartheid), as a result of which Israel created legal and physical segregation between the Israeli settlers and the Palestinian majority.
    B'Tselem, israeli human rights organization

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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 9:41 AM PDT
    Bush (who is the only candidate for 2 elections that had the moral courage to do what had to be done).
    Posted by pwrslm


    your moral compass is faulty - is lying, illegal wiretapping, redition, suspension of habeas corpus, etc. morally acceptable?

    No, but if you're suffering from the bush islamofacistphobia - I guess you'll do anything the Fuehrer says -

    I denounce this bushit president and everything he has done.

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    by micma-2009 June 11, 2007 9:46 AM PDT


    Three more Americans who will never see their families and friends again.

    And for what?

    A pack of lies that's what.

    The blood of over 3,500 American soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis is on the hands of Bush and all the bumper-sticker patriots who follow him.


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    by hungry1968 June 11, 2007 9:52 AM PDT
    This thing started when we repelled Iraq out of Kuwait. Billy boy Clinton left our soldier in harms way for 2 terms without resolving the situation that kept them there.
    The funniest part is this, that people who shirk jistice are the same ones promoting the democrate parties politics, and condemning Bush (who is the only candidate for 2 elections that had the moral courage to do what had to be done).
    Posted by pwrslm at 09:31 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    What does Clinton have to do with this? Iraq invaded Kuwait, we put troops on the ground and pushed them out. Then they signed the peace / non-aggression treaty with Gen. Schwartzkopf. NOTHING else happened with Iraq to justify our going in a second time. There were no WMD's, they had no ties to Al-Qaeda, and they had nothing to do with 9/11. The courage to do what had to be done? Using that rationale, who do we invade next? Do we just pick a country off the map and say, "I have the courage to invade this country for no reason?" This rests squarely on the shoulders of the Republican party from the President down - don't try to deflect the blame. No one believes it.
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    by lars008-2009 June 11, 2007 9:52 AM PDT
    FASCIST NAZI ISLAM EMPTIES BETHLEHEM OF CHRISTIANS
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printab
    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36406

    'Greedy monsters' ruled church

    SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    BETHLEHEM, West Bank %u2014 The Palestinian gunmen holed up in the Church of the Nativity and later deported by Israel seized church stockpiles of food and "ate like greedy monsters" until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry.
    They also guzzled beer, wine and Johnnie Walker scotch that they found in priests' quarters, undeterred by the Islamic ban on drinking alcohol.
    Angry Orthodox priests yesterday showed two reporters about 20 empty bottles of whiskey, champagne, vodka, cognac and French wine on a kitchen shelf and on the floor of two rooms.
    "They should be ashamed of themselves. They acted like animals, like greedy monsters. Come, I will show you more," said one priest, who declined to give his name.
    "Palestinians took candelabra, icons and anything that looked like gold," said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20020515-89391238.htm
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    by retiredinmex June 11, 2007 9:53 AM PDT
    Is anyone as mad as me? What the hell is Bush doing still in office?

    He has illegally, immorally and unilaterally invaded a country that originally had no ties to terrorism. Now, yes, there are many terrorism threats as Iraq is an international terrorist congregation point.

    I served in Iraq and spoke with hundreds of US and "Coalition" military members. I guarantee you there was no one who agreed with our/their presence in Iraq.

    When was the last time you heard the media refer to "the Coalition?"

    Who are the terrorists in Iraq? What the hell has Bush gotten us into? Where's the plan to get out of this quagmire?

    Is there a poll of parents of the dead, injured or missing as to their support for this war?
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    by micma-2009 June 11, 2007 9:56 AM PDT


    Q: What's the difference between Iraq and Vietnam?


    A: Bush actually had a plan to get out of Vietnam.

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    by rochest June 11, 2007 9:59 AM PDT
    well I said I was not going to comment on these articles anymore but this one.! unbelievable !


    "U.S. commanders have been turning to some Sunni groups in Iraq - formerly considered enemies - to join the fight against al Qaeda, according to a report in the New York Times. The report says some of the groups are suspected of past attacks on U.S. troops, and the military acknowledges the inherent risks of the plan. Some weaponry has been provided to the groups, usually via the Iraqi military."

    "There are tribal sheiks out there who say 'Hey, just allow me to be the local security force. I don't care what you call me. ... You can call me whatever you want. Just give me the right training and equipment and I'll secure my area.' And that's the direction we're moving out there," the Third Infantry Division commander said."
    "They say: 'We hate you because you are an occupier, but we hate al Qaeda worse and we hate the Persians (Iranians) even worse".

    So now we're providing weapons and training to the people that attack us, based on the fact that they hate us, but they hate our enemies worse? hungry1968 at 08:47 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    yes JFK said we would pay any price and bear any burden but how can we do this if we do n. have a clearly defined enemy and we may be arming one against the other in civil war? Our enemy is al Qaeada... not Sunni not Shia not Iran .

    support our troops save their lives bring them home
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    by klifton2-2009 June 11, 2007 10:05 AM PDT
    It is too late. An idiot deliberately free the genie that is Iraq and does not know how to put it back into the bottle. As to why the idiot Bush is still in office, the American public is to blame. If there is enough pressure on Congress, the man would be impeached and hopefully kicked out of office. He is clueless and an absolutely disaster. Since taking office 6 plus years ago, he has achieved NOTHING! He wakes up a disaster and a failure and goes to bed just as he started, a abject failure. It is such an American tragedy to have this man in office.
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 10:07 AM PDT
    What does Clinton have to do with this? Iraq invaded Kuwait, we put troops on the ground and pushed them out. Then they signed the peace / non-aggression treaty with Gen. Schwartzkopf. NOTHING else happened with Iraq to justify our going in a second time. There were no WMD's, they had no ties to Al-Qaeda, and they had nothing to do with 9/11. The courage to do what had to be done? Using that rationale, who do we invade next? Do we just pick a country off the map and say, "I have the courage to invade this country for no reason?" This rests squarely on the shoulders of the Republican party from the President down - don't try to deflect the blame. No one believes it.
    Posted by hungry1968

    What is this, revisionism 101? There was "NO" peace treaty signed with Iraq. Your FOS. There was a cease fire that Iraq was in violation of for a decade. You have no right to argue any points with a lie as your craddle of legitimacy.
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    by neoconrcrazy June 11, 2007 10:09 AM PDT
    here lars - from B'Tselem (israeli HR org)

    Since East Jerusalem was annexed in 1967, the government of Israel%u2019s primary goal in Jerusalem has been to create a demographic and geographic situation that will thwart any future attempt to challenge Israeli sovereignty over the city. To achieve this goal, the government has been taking actions to increase the number of Jews, and reduce the number of Palestinians, living in the city.

    At the end of 2005, the population of Jerusalem stood at 723,700: 482,500 Jews (67 percent) and 241,200 Palestinians (33 percent). About 58 percent of the residents live on land that was annexed in 1967 (45 percent of whom are Jews, and 55 percent Palestinians). With the Palestinians having a higher growth rate than the Jews, Israel has used various methods to achieve its goal:

    Physically isolating East Jerusalem from the rest of the West Bank, in part by building the separation barrier;


    Discriminating in land expropriation, planning, and building, and demolition of houses;


    Revoking residency and social benefits of Palestinians who stay abroad for at least seven years, or who are unable to prove that their center of life is in Jerusalem;


    Unfairly dividing the budget between the two parts of the city, with harmful effects on infrastructure and services in East Jerusalem.

    Israel%u2019s policy gravely infringes the rights of residents of East Jerusalem and flagrantly breaches international law.



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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 10:10 AM PDT
    This rests squarely on the shoulders of the Republican party from the President down - don't try to deflect the blame. No one believes it.
    Posted by hungry1968 at 09:52 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    and your in a drug induced stupor.

    You cant even grasp reality, let alone explain it.
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    by rochest June 11, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
    while we are discussing staying in Iraq.. it appears that Afghanistan is in danger of becoming a failed state and is a base for much narcoterrorism! So the lesson ? We may bomb you back into the Stone Age but unless you have what we want (oil in this case) we are not sticking around to help with reconstruction of your environment or your government. (we have bigger fish former!)
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    by June 11, 2007 10:19 AM PDT
    pwrslm wrote:

    "Well, at least you cant claim your trying to impress us with your intelligence, eh?"

    Why would I need to impress anyone with my intelligence?

    You on the other hand, well, the less said, the better. :-)
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    by radiob-2009 June 11, 2007 10:21 AM PDT
    Bushism is characterized by impaired social interaction. Those affected often have trouble communicating, and they exhibit unusual or severely limited activities and interests.
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 10:22 AM PDT
    I guess that's the last we'll be seeing of you then.
    Posted by mcdazz

    Well, at least you cant claim your trying to impress us with your intelligence, eh?
    Posted by pwrslm at 09:20 AM : Jun 11, 2007
    + report abuse
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    pwrslm wrote:

    "No more mental midgets spewing half witted rhetoric, PLEEZ, you dont have anything worth posting, believe it, its true."

    I guess that's the last we'll be seeing of you then.
    Posted by mcdazz

    If you take it in context, its has a lot more meaning. What exactly is it with the whole truth that bothers you?
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 10:22 AM PDT
    I guess that's the last we'll be seeing of you then.
    Posted by mcdazz

    Well, at least you cant claim your trying to impress us with your intelligence, eh?
    Posted by pwrslm at 09:20 AM : Jun 11, 2007
    + report abuse
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    pwrslm wrote:

    "No more mental midgets spewing half witted rhetoric, PLEEZ, you dont have anything worth posting, believe it, its true."

    I guess that's the last we'll be seeing of you then.
    Posted by mcdazz

    If you take it in context, its has a lot more meaning. What exactly is it with the whole truth that bothers you?
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    by hungry1968 June 11, 2007 10:27 AM PDT
    and your in a drug induced stupor.
    You cant even grasp reality, let alone explain it.
    Posted by pwrslm at 10:10 AM : Jun 11, 2007

    Bush invades Iraq for no reason and it turned into a total disaster. That's the reality - I have a firm grasp on it, because my eyes are wide open. Just sit there with your blinders on - it works for lars008, lieberman18, processor5 - it seems to be working for you too.
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    by mudrose-2009 June 11, 2007 10:27 AM PDT
    name one jewish country that grants equal rights to non-jews?

    Posted by neoconRcrazy

    Israel. There are a lot of arabs living there.
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    by pwrslm June 11, 2007 10:27 AM PDT
    Bushism is characterized by impaired social interaction. Those affected often have trouble communicating, and they exhibit unusual or severely limited activities and interests.
    Posted by radiob at

    Actually, the cowards and fakes mascarade behind insulting people for understanding the value of what we are doing in Iraq. They oft characturize us as supporters of Bush, when its nothing more than intelligence and understanding that they oppose.
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