STOCKTON, Calif., June 9, 2007

Sex Offenders Get Younger, More Violent

Cases Involving Juvenile Sex Offenders Has Risen 40% In 20 Years

  • Wards from the sex offender treatment program line up in their dormitory before going outside for exercise at the O.H. Close Youth Correctional Facility in Stockton, Calif., on March 15, 2007. Photo

    Wards from the sex offender treatment program line up in their dormitory before going outside for exercise at the O.H. Close Youth Correctional Facility in Stockton, Calif., on March 15, 2007.  (AP Photo/Steve Yeater)

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(AP)  Courts have seen the number of sex offense cases involving juvenile offenders rise dramatically in recent years, an Associated Press review of national statistics found, and treatment professionals say the offenders are getting younger and the crimes more violent.

Some psychologists blame the increase in numbers — 40 percent over two decades — on a society saturated with sex and violence and the fact that many of the accused were themselves victims of adult sexual predators. Others say there aren't more children committing such crimes, simply more awareness, better reporting and a general hysteria about sex offenders.

“I don't think it's appropriate to suggest we have whole schools full of sexual predators ... but we're seeing more of it and more sexually aggressive acts,” said Scott Poland, past president of the National Association of School Psychologists. “How do these kids even know about this? It's permeated throughout our society.”

Robert Prentky, a psychologist and nationally renowned expert on sex offenders in Bridgewater, Mass., thinks the statistics are misleading.

“There aren't more kids, there are more laws,” he said. “We now have fairly draconian laws with very harsh sanctions that apply to juveniles.”

The number of children under 18 accused of forcible rape, violent and nonviolent sex offenses rose from 24,100 in 1985 to 33,800 in 2004, the AP's analysis found. Violent offenses include attempted rape and sexual assault, while nonviolent offenses including fondling, statutory rape and prostitution.

By comparison, rape and sexual assaults by adults decreased more than 56 percent from 1993 to 2004. Comparable statistics were unavailable before 1993.

The AP analyzed state and federal crime statistics, as well as independent research on juvenile sex offenders. Sources included the U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics; the National Center for Juvenile Justice, a Pennsylvania-based nonprofit that specializes in statistical and policy research; and The Safer Society Foundation Inc., a Vermont nonprofit that works to prevent sexual abuse.

Sharon Araji, an Alaska psychologist who took one of the first broad looks at the problem in her book “Sexually Aggressive Children,” thinks the number of child-on-child sex crimes is actually even higher than the statistics indicate.

Only 28 percent of all violent sexual assaults are reported to police, according to a 1999 National Crime Victimization Survey. And cases of incest between siblings are widely thought to be underreported and may drive the numbers even higher, Araji says.

“The whole society is not yet up on this problem,” Araji said. “These kids, on the extreme end, if nothing is done to catch them, they're going to become our adult offenders of tomorrow.”

Studies show that one in two sex offenders began their sexually abusive behavior as juveniles.

The rise in juvenile sex offenders has spawned hundreds of new treatment facilities for children as young as 5.

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by likeitis5050 June 9, 2007 7:07 PM PDT
I agree that the numbers aren't greater, but public awareness and a legal system that takes action is catching what used to be swept under the carpet or locked in the family closet with all the other skeletons. Our patriarchal society for too long has let 'boys be boys' while they 'sow their wild oats' at the expense of the female who was told to be quiet and accept the blame for having somehow incited the assault.

to be continued
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by likeitis5050 June 9, 2007 7:39 PM PDT
continued

But I also think forcing juveniles who may have entered into sexual exploration with someone they thought was doing the same go through life with the label 'sexual predator' pinned to them. Violent and aggressive behavior is not to be tolerated, ever. However, some examples I know of have young boys simply being caught in consensual situations that the parents of the female refused to believe. Since the courts now have a zero tolerance toward sexual aggression they get hauled off to court and given the label 'deviant'. I pulled up a web site that gives the locations and details of sexual predators in my neighborhood and found one living just doors from me. A 14 year old boy. While I agree therapy and monitoring of these milder offenses is essential, I hate to see them labeled among those who have violently assaulted women. He does not belong in the misogynistic group that rapes, disfigures, and kills. And I hope he isn't discouraged and pulled into the wrong direction as a result of being labeled such a person at such a young age. But this is just my personal opinion based on personal experience. For someone else it might seem too casual an approach.
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by tuckerndfw June 9, 2007 7:52 PM PDT
Feminsts strike AGAIN!!!!

As the psychologist, Robert Prentky, correctly pointed out, there is no change in behavior, what has changed are the (feminist sponsored, advocated) laws related to juveniles and juvenile behavior.

Feminists seek to criminalize all heterosexual relationships. That is primarily because most of them are lesbians. And not only hate themselves, they hate everyone else, including babies and children.
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by tuckerndfw June 9, 2007 7:58 PM PDT
Yessir, buddy, feminists loathe violence.

That's why they invented the "battered wife syndrome" as an excuse to dodge prosecution when they murder men, usually the husband, but could be any man.

Oddly enough, we don't see feminists protesting the 60 day sentence handed down to that cold blooded murderer in Selmer, Tennesses for shooting her husband in the back while he slept. Her lame excuse being "he made me mad."


Feminists really hate pedophiles and child abusers. That's why they protested when Mary Kay Letourneau wasn't initially imprisoned for her multiple rapes of one of the children in her classroom.

Oh, never mind, they didn't say anything at all.

Feminism is a cancer on civilized society.
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by texvet528 June 9, 2007 8:53 PM PDT
Blaming it on feminists is about as accurate as blaming it on republicans or the politically active religious block. All have had parts in setting up the current anti-*** (anti-human imo) environment.
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by shanev137 June 9, 2007 9:20 PM PDT
*** Offenders Get Younger, More Violent Cases Involving Juvenile *** Offenders Has Risen 40% In 20 Years

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I don't care how you slice it, parents are the ones to blame. Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to spawn.
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by likeitis5050 June 9, 2007 10:03 PM PDT
tuckerndfw That is primarily because most of them are lesbians. And not only hate themselves, they hate everyone else, including babies and children.


spoken like a true misogynist.
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by tuckerndfw June 9, 2007 10:14 PM PDT
Did you ever notice that all this c.rap started when all the women wanted to go to work? Now all the kids are raised by someone else and they are all home alone, having *** while YOU are at work. They watch R rated movies that you have in your cabinet, full of *** and violence. Start raising your kids and stop paying someone else to do it and maybe this country will see results.

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 08:42 PM : Jun 09, 2007

Yep. We agree for the most part. Children today are treated like furniture. They are either ignored, pushed out of the way, or given excessive attention. Which leads to all manner of difficulties.

It began in the 1950's, but in 1994, Bill Clinton and the GOP congress gave feminists one billion dollars to promote violence against women.

And, they are primarily responsible for leading the effort to criminalize all heterosexual relationships. Some femininsts seriously claim that no woman ever agrees to sexual relations with a man. And, that all such relations are rape.

Which is what the legal system appears to be, slowly, but surely, accepting as the definition for rape.

Feminists are a cancer on civilized society and are primarily responsible for the breakdown in society. That was their stated goal and they are doing quite well at destroying civilized society.

The problem seems to be that they have nothing with which to replace what they are destroying.
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by tuckerndfw June 9, 2007 10:17 PM PDT
spoken like a true misogynist.

Posted by likeitis5050 at 10:03 PM : Jun 09, 2007

Lesbians are not women.

Even if I hated them, that would not be misogyny.

However, lesbians are definitely misogynists.
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by hypnotoad72 June 9, 2007 11:02 PM PDT
The media has a part to play in all this. Look at the history of media, what wasn't allowed then vs what isn't allowed now... plus the number of programs back then that were truly awful compared to what is today. "Three's Company" wasn't the norm in 1980, yet "Family Guy" is. ("Three's Company" suggested promoting pre-martial situations at times, though the concept of a mixed gender non-sexual living arrangement combined with double entendre are what ired the censors more...)

Sorry to be pithy; nothing's perfect.
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by xzavierbrown June 9, 2007 11:05 PM PDT
and guess who is making it harder and harder for parents to raise thier children...the liberal entertainment genre..we got pre-teens who does not any better idolizing morons like snoop dog..paris hilton..

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by bellal-2009 June 9, 2007 11:10 PM PDT
Thank you porn industry you've succeeded in turning an entire generation into monsters.
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by kailumego1 June 9, 2007 11:29 PM PDT
Before laws became more aggressively in favor of women's rights, the term "date-rape", was simply a topic of conversation that men and women tossed around and made light of, often critically castigating women for being vulnerable.

True, since laws became more aggressively in favor of women's rights there has been isolated cases of women filling false charges of rape, but considering the prodigious numbers of cases of actual violence against women and children, the laws only need some minor adjustment.


Lesbians can't possibly be misogynist unless they have some pathological neurosis stemming from an environmental degradation that has been deeply rooted in their subconsciousness producing self-hatred. Come on!!!!!

It's obvious you have a problem with assertive outspoken women, so I guess the traditional woman, housewife barefoot and pregnant is more appealing to you than the adventurous outspoken assertive one.

All assertive outspoken women are not Lesbians, any more than all Lesbians are assertive outspoken women, so don't stereotype all women as man-hating-emasculating-hysterics with horns perturbing from their temples.
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by kailumego1 June 9, 2007 11:33 PM PDT
Speaking of violence against women, until the early twentieth century men could flagrantly abuse their wives sexually, by which the legal system gave them unyielding authority.

As far back to the 18th hundredths there was a law, which made it legal for a man to beat his wife with an object, as long as it was no larger than his thumb, "the rule of thumb law".


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by hootsmun June 9, 2007 11:56 PM PDT
P.O.R.N. (No brainer). Hoots.
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by shanev137 June 10, 2007 12:46 AM PDT
the porn industry is to blame...lol.

yea. great arguement.

so who taught all these millions upon millions of young girls it was OK to make the porn?
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by tuckerndfw June 10, 2007 12:49 AM PDT
Speaking of violence against women, until the early twentieth century men could flagrantly abuse their wives sexually, by which the legal system gave them unyielding authority.

As far back to the 18th hundredths there was a law, which made it legal for a man to beat his wife with an object, as long as it was no larger than his thumb, "the rule of thumb law".

Posted by kailumego1 at 11:33 PM : Jun 09, 2007

Emancipating women was the stupidest thing American men ever did. And we are living with the results of that stupid mistake today.

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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 1:01 AM PDT
I am 52. I do know that TV programming has changed over years. Love Leave To Beaver is just good today as it was years ago. The lessioms are there. Today yer lucky if a good show is aired that is suitable for all ages. I don't care for violent stuff or love or half dressed sfuff and stull kids should not watch. That's why the V chip. Years ago we were not allowed to watch much TV. Mum felt visual games were bad for kids. So who is the blame here-the home. Computer is not.There is a dirty little secret that pushed under the rug and they say oh we don't talk about that or it never happened . Better yet they turn a blind eye to it. I was abused in the foster homes and to to never talk about or all h3ll would break lose and I would never be free. No female or male who is abused asked for it.
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by maedean June 10, 2007 1:11 AM PDT
lets see parents are never home with there kids they have to work , you are not allowed to spank a child if they do wrong. God is out of the school systems. Prison is run by the prisoners not the laws and we wonder why there is a rise in crime for young adults.
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by grammawhamma June 10, 2007 1:33 AM PDT
Treatment centers for juvenille *** offenders as young as five.!? I can't picture this of a five year old. I also can't believe they now diagnose 2 year olds as being bipolar or schzophrenic and slap them on psych meds. The parents of these young mixed up kids are the generation that was to be reasoned with instead of punished. (Don't tell Johnny that he "has" to pick up his toys...give him the choice of a game boy or an Ipod for a reward if he decides he "wants" to pick up his toys.) Wondering what the next generation will bring!!
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by grammawhamma June 10, 2007 1:43 AM PDT
And tuckernfdw...sounds to me like you were burned by a few lesbians in your past. Lesbians are just people...there are good ones and there are bad ones. Judge people individually not as a category.
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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 1:52 AM PDT
YEP. I got my arse spanked in the old days. They took God out of school in 54. Now the kids are messed up. Parents let their kids do anything and think it is cute. There is no rules in the home. Here some money get outa my hair type thinking and when they f---up all h-ll breaks lose.I never had kids due to health issues. I am appalled at the yuuth and the road their headed. So it is sad that they are lost due thing out their control. Kids do as their parents do . Children need to be raised properly. 24/7 job. They are put in front of the TV all day,placed in daycare, etc. So be parents.
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by paradoxmdl June 10, 2007 2:12 AM PDT
Most sexual preditors are male which begs the question: why did the author of this article refer to the juvenile preditors as kids and not boys? We make the same mistake over and over again - referring to "kids" when the data clearly show the problem is with boys and men. We must begin to address the REAL issue: that something is going on in our culture that provokes boys to sexualize violence and normalizes the sexual assault of children.
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by tuckerndfw June 10, 2007 2:14 AM PDT
Posted by GrammaWhamma at 01:43 AM : Jun 10, 2007

Hiya, Gramma,

Nope, I'm just harassing them because they enjoy it so much. They love being "picked on" so I try to accomodate them.

(yeah, right)

Actually, I used to be a legislative advocate (aka lobbyist) on family issues. During the course of that experience, I encountered many lesbians in various capacities.

I was personal friends with the state president of the Texas Chapter of N.O.W. (National Organization of Wesbians - I know, but they don't know how to spell).

Unfortunately, she wasn't a wesbian, so I didn't get to harass her too much other than on her choice of associates (wesbians).

And, a couple of years ago, I "dated" (cough, cough) a wesbian for about a year. She was much younger (mid 20's) than I (almost 60) but we had good times just hanging out.

I am really not as judgmental as I appear to be. The tone of my remarks depends entirely on my mood at the time, but for the most part, I really don't care what people think or do.

This is primarily amusement to me.
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by tuckerndfw June 10, 2007 2:19 AM PDT
referring to "kids" when the data clearly show the problem is with boys and men. We must begin to address the REAL issue: (phony statistics invented by lesbians to support their anti-heterosexual campaign)

Posted by paradoxmdl at 02:12 AM : Jun 10, 2007

The "data" to which you refer reflects the effectiveness on the lesbian campaign to demonize all heterosexual activity beginning as early as possible.

The problems began by giving lesbians one billion taxpayer dollars in 1994 to finance their anti-heterosexual propaganda campaign.

The solution is to repeal the 19th Amendment and the Civil Righs Act of 1964 and all related legislation.
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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 3:17 AM PDT
I think there is issues with this. It seem it is the male who does this, IS sanitising the games ,TV,and the like help.
Women are the bearers of children. The man will walk out. Men are not there. So how is this dealt with to save the young boys and a girl who does it to please a boy. So kids don't look their but older. Put the blame where it is due.
1 kids need to learn the rules and Mum andDad
2 DRESS RIGHT FOR SCHOOL
3 No violent,adult like, games tv, movies etc
4 the naughty step,stool,area,
5 no gang like outfits
6 MANNERS ARE TAUGHT AND USED BY ALL IN THE HOME
7 NO BULLYING ETC.
Ii is rude the way kids boss their parents. In my day it was not done. We were taught to mind.
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by grammawhamma June 10, 2007 3:52 AM PDT
Hey Tucker...please take care of that "cough" or they will be knocking on your door to throw you in isolation!! Just kidding...have a good night.
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by billpl-2009 June 10, 2007 4:05 AM PDT
Quote:"By comparison, rape and sexual assaults by adults decreased more than 56 percent from 1993 to 2004"

wow! cut down by more than half?!...in 10 years?!
Now, how can that be with all the horrible things people do nowadays?
Maybe these kids need to do as the adults do and watch more violence and porn?
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But just think of all the money Psychologists are making on all of these kids.
...they couldn't be making all of this *** up, could they?

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by closethippy June 10, 2007 4:11 AM PDT
I'll take explanation number 2 for what is happening: It's not an increase of sexual predators but rather an increase in the harshness used to judge what is a sexual predatory act.
The American Inquisition has finally arrived and there are already thousands of victims languishing in our jails because of it.
Like, for example, the 17 year-old boy given a 10 year sentence because his 15 year-old girlfriend gave him a BJ.
And I'm sure people know of many, many cases like that one.
It's incredible how many Americans these days are going hysterical about things they make an issue of. Be it that "old Europe" didn't want to collaborate with us with the Iraq invasion, or the immigration bill, or teaching biology which is also known as evolution (they are one and the same), or *** having equal rights, or a presidential candidate being a Mormon or an atheist or a woman or a black, etc, etc.
I understand this is a country of salesmen but for crying out loud some people need to stop selling fear so they can impose on everyone their view of what the world should be like.
What do they have to gain by doing that? Is all this grief worth it just so some people can look better than others?
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by coffeehead-2009 June 10, 2007 6:05 AM PDT


Privatized prison are just corporate wealth.
They use profits from forced work labor and they also see america's people as individual STOCK for profit. The more you have the more you get in $$$. The sleazier you treat and board them the more you profit.


Wackenhut Corrections Corporation (WCC), the second largest U.S. prison company, claimed contracts and awards to manage 46 facilities in North America, U.K., and Australia. It boasts a total of 30,424 beds as well as contracts for prisoner health care services, transportation, and security.

Currently, the stocks of both CCA and WCC are doing extremely well. Between 1996 and 1997, CCA's revenues increased by 58 percent, from $293 million to $462 million. Its net profit grew from $30.9 million to $53.9 million. WCC raised its revenues from $138 million in 1996 to $210 million in 1997. Unlike public correctional facilities, the vast profits of these private facilities rely on the employment of non-union labor.
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by knyghtwolf June 10, 2007 8:09 AM PDT
Taking god out of school had nothing to do with the behavior of children growing up today, as I was part of the last generation that had prayer in school. You want to blame someone? Look in the mirror, there is where you start; by allowing the federal government to "intervene" on your behalf on sexual censorship, religious intervention which only encouraged it even further, and primary care intervention from the home, which encouraged the so-called "under reporting issues" and "misrepresented" statistics to be used to encourage draconian inquistion-type judges to be appointed that used this system to enforce their own ideals and "isms" on the rest of our society. They are us, and we are them, this is the face of society we all had a hand in creating, now we sleep in the arms of a nightmare that seems like it will never end. It is a proven fact that the more you USE the rule of "forbidden fruits" the more you want to find out for yourself. WE KNOW THIS and STILL ALLOW IT in our advertising, politics, positions of authority, i.e. military, policing, corporations, religious positions, and economic developments. We have allowed people to use their status as "minority" to be a REASON for bad behavior, cultural developments, in lieu of community growth in cultural harmony. We are the END result of our own misgivings, we have unleashed the beast and now the beast is seen through us.
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by barbaraf4 June 10, 2007 8:34 AM PDT
"I'll take explanation number 2 for what is happening: It's not an increase of sexual predators but rather an increase in the harshness used to judge what is a sexual predatory act.
The American Inquisition has finally arrived and there are already thousands of victims languishing in our jails because of it.
Like, for example, the 17 year-old boy given a 10 year sentence because his 15 year-old girlfriend gave him a BJ."

If I remember correctly, there are people still in jail for possessing and/or smoking pot during the 70s. Statutory rape may fall into a similar catagory, especially between consenting parties; however, sexual predators are sick puppies and they need to be drowned at birth. There is no hope of rehab and they always do it again.
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by acauble1 June 10, 2007 9:38 AM PDT
Here's an interesting sociological question:

Has internet porn, and easy access to it, helped cause an increase in s.e.x crimes...

Or, has the internet been more of a release for those who crave porn?

For someone addicted to porn and sexual acts on minors, the internet could only be seen as a veritable 'liquor store' to an alcoholic!

Anything that helps to feed an addiction is very, very dangerous!

Sexual criminals should be banned from using the internet as part of their punishment! I'm sure the American Criminal Liberties Union would fight tooth-and-nail to prevent that from happening, but it needs to happen for the safety of young people everywhere!
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by hapticz June 10, 2007 10:07 AM PDT
while the rules of law have changed, the *** drive of humans has NOT. it wont either, it is inate and natural. what is unatural is the means used to control and channel younger and younger people into something that is unatural and truly dysfunctional. society would rather send these kids lives into complete chaos for the remainder of their time on earth rather than comprehend that *** starts at puberty, not at some legalized convenience for parents and others.
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by antoniof123 June 10, 2007 11:08 AM PDT
I don't care how you slice it, parents are the ones to blame. Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to spawn.
Posted by shanev137 at 09:20 PM : Jun 09, 2007

Well, said it seems this generation of parents wants to find someone to blame for them mistake. Sorry no takers here either.
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by afinefolly June 10, 2007 11:54 AM PDT
hitlers army was scary and powerful, but 99 plus % of victims in hitler's era were not jews and such, they were babies and the army didn't physically get them, parents did ... congress's army is scary and powerful, but 99 plus % of victims in congresses era are not the poor blacks filling prisons or the the middle easterners filling wars or the immigrants illegalized or the kids in dare schools or the naked people or the lazy ignorant profane people, or even all those people together: they are kids age five and less, and congress isn't physically capable, the entire u.s. military, infact all the militaries in the world, are not physically capable of laying a physical hand on each and every one of them ... but they still started it, and there may be more date rape drugs today than guns in wwii but 99 plus %, 99 plus % of the time, just as in wwii, don't use them against people against the wishes of those people
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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 12:53 PM PDT
Let's not blame computer access here. Have u forgotten the nudie mags. Years ago they were down where kids could look ems in the stores.
Or they be laying about in the house. On the computer them sites are blocked by filter. I don't understand why males like nudie pics,children to hurt. THAT MAKES ME SICK. I am aware the male drive but you control it. I think the problem is males can't handle the word No. It is a nasty secret that has been covered up for ages.Part of it is the male rage. Also they are stronger,bigger,over powering so the helpness can't fight that off and if disbled even harder to do. Them porn sites have no bubiness on the net but they are off shore so therefore hard to shut down but they be. Computers are everywhere banning a person from using it is not the answer. Having software that block it is and part of the OS is. I was abused in foster homes and this is no lie. Kids as young as 5 doing the act no they are not able to...SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STEP UPTO THE PLATE AND STOP THE CRAZINESS...
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by kailumego1 June 10, 2007 12:57 PM PDT
Although the "Women's Movement" has benefited women in America, it has also served as a springboard for fanaticism, which is tandem of the hegemonic patriarchal supremest Neanderthalism most European-American men have yielded .

This particularly comes to mind when viewing some of the typical white-borne comments castigating blacks and other minorities exclusively, while circumventing the criminal behavior of a majority.

One poster mentioned how minorities use their status to excuse their deviant behavior, well isn't that what whites have done/do on a daily basis, it's called "convenient denial".

If you want minorities to stop blaming "whitey" for every unfortunate mishap in their lives, stop hiding behind your pseudo-superiorism perpetuating a false-identity of righteousness, intelligentsia, and "rightness" and deal with your own hedonism.

Criminal behavior, and thereof, does not equate minorities, anymore than black degradation equate whites. Stop blaming blacks, Hispanics, etc. for every criminal thought and or action committed in America, and take a long look in the mirror.
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by shanev137 June 10, 2007 12:58 PM PDT
For someone addicted to porn and sexual acts on minors, the internet could only be seen as a veritable 'liquor store' to an alcoholic!

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Go ahead and tell us all where the child porn is on the internet. The fact is that there is very, very little child porn available on the internet. You loonies are acting like you can type in the word "child porn" into any search engine and get hundreds of pages of it.

Stop blaming porn and start blaming the parents who are responsible for creating these juvenile monsters you're all whining about.
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by kailumego1 June 10, 2007 1:07 PM PDT
tuckerndfw history trumps over your hysterical, histrionic rantings and ravings, research historical documents, there was a law "the rule of thumb", as you should have well-known, since you present yourself as an above-intelligence human-being.

My arguments are based on facts, notwithstanding, your persistent denial, it is obvious you have a pathological neurosis concerning feminism, I don't agree with everything the feminist movement promotes, neither do I agree with your Neanderthal ideology, you both have a lot in common, you/feminist groups are rigid, illogical and irrational.

Sexual abuse is not a poor-inner-city-minority-black disease it crosses all social class, economic, and racial barriers, as it is not a predominate feature in poor white/black communities, but equally pervasive in upper-middle-class white/black communities, etc.

Most cases of child-sexual abuse are not reported in affluent communities because of the "nuclear family" concept, and not wanting to "air" the family's dirty laundry.
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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 2:36 PM PDT
This is an issue that tha rich get away with all races cos* money talks and bull *** walks* as the saying goes. Ur race is not important to me so I am lucky there. Whitey is the problem too.FYI,I am white so am female, our blood in veins are same colour. But I am appalled at the well to do getting off cos of money/well known names.If years ago my foster parents who were white had to pay for the abused they did to us they'd lose aid. So it was never reported and they took that to their grave. So there is dirty wash that is cleaned AND AIRED and so the family's dirty wash is put away so hopely the dirty secret WITH IT hindden . Women who have children are the blame for this to go on. They should have stopped it. Fear and keeping family for the sake the kids ..while the dirty secret takes places..out sight and mind..no child who is brought right lies about this. I am not a feminist as they have some ideas that are not sound. I feel ladies with children are home if that can be done as the child's caregiver.
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by tuckerndfw June 10, 2007 3:12 PM PDT
Posted by kailumego1 at 01:07 PM : Jun 10, 2007

Your arguments are based on lesbian propaganda, not facts.

In 1994, lesbians were given one billion taxpayer dollar to finance phony studies for the sole purpose of generating phony statistics to support their phony arguments.

Those phony arguments are the basis for everything you have claimed. And, are not based on "history," they are based on lesbian (anti-heterosexual) propaganda (lies).

Odd how lesbians are totally silent when women are the murderers or child molesters, but shriek to the heavens if a man is involved. And, the even more disgusting part of that is the legal/political system responds to their caterwauling about "victim's rights." Of course, men or male children have no rights.

That is not the extremist element of the lesbian movement, that is their primary platform, which you continue to espouse. If your statistics had a factual basis, you might have valid points. But, they do not and you do not.

Feminism is a cancer on society.
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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 3:51 PM PDT
Wrong..I was a school child in the 60s and 70s and there mixed classes boys and girls co ed I think it is called. I am female. The pandered to the boys or taught better than the girls. I am 52.
Boys were taught differently than girls and still are.
Boys grow up so they
1 ARE THE HEAD OF HOUSE HOLD
2 BRING HOME THE BACON
3 MARRY AND FATHER CHILDREN
4 HIS NAME IS PASSED ON THRU SONS
5 HE IS KING OF THE HOUSE AND HIS RULES ARE OBEYED
GIRLS.
1 LEARN TO CARE FOR CHILDREN AND HOME
2 MARRY AND HAVE BABIES
3 His..
4 on and on
I am signle and old so I got a poor education thanks to men. I am multi hanicapped.
Due to my gender and the like
1 Can't spell write,read, and the like as my peers can. i was robbed of it.
Women need to know more than changing baby's nappies,cleaning house,etc.
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by likeitis5050 June 10, 2007 5:11 PM PDT
Children get all their concepts and initial beliefs from family. Whether it's environmental, cultural, or intentional it starts at home. It has nothing to do with poverty, or educational advantages. The majority of kids today are the result of parenting that over indulged and lacked consistent boundaries that their children could rely on. Parents scared to death their children are going to suffer peer pressure so they provide them any and every thing to keep them 'up to the standards of their peers'. What a load of garbage. Instead of teaching children the importance of being honest, and learning the value of delayed gratification, or helping them through difficult situations so they come away with integrity and self-esteem, they run out and buy them 'things' that make them the envy and someone to be 'copied'. The kids learn nothing about empathy or compassion or pride in standing up for themselves. And we wonder why we have so many kids who seem to lack a conscience or feel guilt over something they've done that hurt someone else. Stop blaming and start accepting responsibility as parents. No one gets the job done without sc...rewing something up, but that in itself is a valuable lesson for children if parents will communicate that to them. Children don't learn from what they are told. They learn from what they observe. Money can't guarantee great results in raising kids. Just ask the Hiltons.
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by michellem99-2009 June 10, 2007 6:21 PM PDT
I have seen/heard children throws fits if parents don't give to their wants. Anything from candy,toys,clothes,fancy stuff to God knows what. Bet the child's computer does more,is faster,fancier than mine. I just have p4 cpu which is fine with home xp. but dsl for personal resons to free the phone so others can talk. in the home. BUT parents are to BE Mum and Dad not their friends. They say
I did not growing up but my child will.
I can't deny my child.....this/that
And so on. Heard them lines.
I would like to see well mannered children
who know the proper things to do
where they don't whine if they don't get their way.
They w/ their parents eat out right
Mind in public. and the like
I was in a store and I wanted to use the ladie's room..the child was carring on so I asked a store lady to do a welfare check or the child who throws him/herself on the floor. Brsts and parents think it is CUTE. IT SHOWS HOW THEY LIVE AT HOME. Parents are their first teachers as well. Do yer job.
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by kailumego1 June 10, 2007 6:47 PM PDT
Again,tuckerndfw your arguments are based on your own self-aggrandized baseless bias, feminism is not the root of all evil, because it was the women's movement that changed laws, i.e. voting rights, Roe v. Wade, etc.

And yes prior to the 20th Century, men did have a right to legally beat their wives with an object no larger than their thumb, this is well documented, also research the Salem Witch Trials, these are examples how women had been regarded.

Today, women still make 67-75% to every one dollar of a man, and if it wasn't for N.O.W. funding for breast cancer, ovarian cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis, etc. research would not have been forthcoming.

Those billions of dollars given to so-called feminist organizations are not simply to emasculate men, create bogus statistics of spousal/sexual abuse in order to garner support, that money goes primarily into needed research, half-way housing for battered women, free-cancer screening, mammograms, heart disease, pap-smear, etc., check your facts before going through a tirade.

Considering your harsh and irrational comments you appear to be suffering from "sour-grapes", maybe you should do some introspection before getting into another relationship.


You know there's always two sides to every story, so instead of throwing stones at feminist groups and women period, you need to do some "soul-searching".
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by kailumego1 June 10, 2007 6:59 PM PDT
Certainly there are numerous of cases involving women as the perpetrator, however, because this is a patriarchal society it is not viewed or looked upon the same way as men committing an identical act.

So, blame your fellow comrades that view a young adolescent being seduced by a female pedophile as a right of passage, instead of a vicious violation or perverted act.

For example the media coverage of child abuse cases involving various female teachers, along with the many responses by "men", it was regarded as a young adolescent male living out his fantasy of being with an older sexually experienced attractive female.

As I didn't see any men coming forward either to vehemently protest, especially when one perpetrator stated "she was too pretty to go to prison".

So, where was the outrage by men, did you protest, HELL NO, I personally found the whole entire case disgusting and appalling.

There is no double-standard as far as I'm concern all those convicted should have gotten maximum time in prison, because if a female teacher had molested my son I would have wanted her head on a platter.
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by gaye5 June 10, 2007 7:08 PM PDT
MichelleM99, I feel very sorry for you, I also grew up in the same era, with the same values, mothers stayed at home and loved and taught their children, they were mostly all married, TV was not very violent and also taught morals as well as the parents, and I was well educated, could have done what ever I wanted and went nursing, but when it came time to have children I stayed at home simply because of choice. My husband was a teacher (on lousy wages in NZ) and even back then we saw the damage that it caused when the mother was working, since then he has started a Ph.D on the damage to children being institutionalized in child care centers for many hrs a day every day...

So could the rise in this very young crime be because when these little babies are hurt or bullied there is no one to hold them, no one to tell them that they are all right, and even though many of the carers are wonderful, they dont have the time to give the love a mother gives.. plus could the increase of the problem be because of the ever increasing continual violence on TV against both women, children and men which has become more horrific over the years , could it be the break up of the marriage, etc.. and yes as a principal of schools who is trained to look out for problems at home and school, my husband would tell you that violence has definitely increased and is getting more violent...we are in for even worse in the future if we dont wake up..
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by afinefolly June 10, 2007 7:57 PM PDT
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by afinefolly June 10, 2007 8:02 PM PDT
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