NASA Chief Sparks Global Warming Fury

Scientists Denounce NASA's Michael Griffin For Saying Earth's Warming May Not Be A Concern

(AP)  The head of the U.S. space agency NASA drew criticism from scientists when he said he was not sure global warming was a problem, and it would be "arrogant" to assume the world's climate should not change in the future.

"I have no doubt that global — that a trend of global warming exists," NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said in a taped interview that aired Thursday on National Public Radio. "I am not sure that it is fair to say that is a problem we must wrestle with."

"I guess I would ask which human beings, where and when, are to be accorded the privilege of deciding that this particular climate that we have right here today, right now, is the best climate for all other human beings. I think that's a rather arrogant position for people to take," Griffin said.

Jerry Mahlman, a former top scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration who is now at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, said Griffin's remarks showed he was either "totally clueless" or "a deep anti-global warming ideologue."

James Hansen, a top NASA climate scientist, said Griffin's comments showed "arrogance and ignorance," because millions of people probably will be harmed by global warming in the future.

White House science adviser Jack Marburger said he was not disturbed by Griffin's remarks but distanced them from President Bush, who announced an international global warming proposal Thursday.

"It's pretty obvious that the NASA administrator was speaking about his own personal views and by no means representing or attempting to represent the administration's views or broader policy," Marburger told The Associated Press. "He's got a very wry sense of humor and is very outspoken."

NASA spokesman David Mould said the radio interviewer was trying to push Griffin into saying something about global warming. NASA's position is that it provides scientific data on the issue, but policymakers are the ones who decide, he said.

[lees2002]

http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm/Wire_ID/3967

[hawksprings]

I keep being told comprises only 1/4 of 1% of our atmosphere (that's 0.025 of 100.00.)

It would be nice to hear an explanation of how the such a tiny fraction of a fraction of an increase of the dreaded greenhouse gas CO2 is gonna kill or drown us all.
And we evil humans, especially the capitalist pig-humans, are responsible for eventually raising the CO2 level by an additional 25% over what it would have been if we didn't exist. So I guess that works out to something like 0.0275 percent is going to the CO2 level in our air.

And that .0025% increase of CO2 is going to melt all the ice in the world, raise the seas by 20 feet, and cause mass extinction and death across the globe.

That's one powerful gas.

And the "experts" just can't see why some of us are skeptical?

[bobnjersey]

[You're just another one of those Yah-Hoos who just wants to rant. ]
[Posted by CO2Max at 12:09 PM : Jun 01, 2007]

and what exactly do you think of yourself ... i can tell you do that often ... posting (ranting) that global warming is a fallacy ... w/ the name co2max?

[briannorwood]

Of course. This moron was appointed by Dumbya himself. No wonder he's towing the party line.

Shame that an educated guy like he apparently is is willing to make himself the laughing stalk of the world scientific community.

Don't worry though. He'll be gone in a year or so.

[co2max]

Ammianus,
Whatever in the world you're talking about might have some sort of relevance on that day when the Roman Empire establishes a base on the surface of the Moon.

I state again what I said elsewhere earlier about Global Warming causing brain damage. Problem is, it is difficult to know if it the the warming or the political *** causing the brain drain. (and does it matter?)

[ammianus]

The Sorrows of Young Dumus, Art. XIII
Direction of the Hegemon%u2019s space policy was assumed by Imbustus Vulturinus, who convened a secret advisory group of five Oligarchs of the religious-totalitarian movement. Bereft of any knowledge of science, these persons were recommended by their large financial contributions to the imperial clique and their fanatical opinions on the use of space to subjugate all the nations of Earth. This group was convened on an irregular schedule to compose %u201Cwhite papers%u201D on particular space policy issues. These were submitted to Vulturinus who worked to implement their recommendations. Vulturinus%u2019 orders flowed to an oversight board in the Office of Management and Budget and thence to the Administrator of the Hegemon%u2019s space agency. Michael Griffin attained his position by swearing absolute fealty to Vulturinus and the totalitarian faction of the legislature. The ultimate object of the space policy oligarchs was to turn the Earth into one vast prison. More immediately, scientific inquiries into matters threatening the propaganda of the Oligarchy, such as global climate change, were quietly starved. Likewise, the search for life outside the Earth was terminated. Such discoveries would conflict with the teachings of the religious totalitarian clique supporting Dumas. Little did the Oligarchs suspect that by substituting blind superstition for reasoned inquiry, they would finally pull down their own house.

[co2max]

if you think 10k years is close ... good for you ... ignorance is bliss.
Posted by bobnjersey at 10:05 AM : Jun 01, 2007
---------------
seems you are unable to conduct a worth discussion of this.
For your information, 10,000 years in earth history isn't even equal in relative terms to the time it took me to write this post out of my lifetime.
You're just another one of those Yah-Hoos who just wants to rant.

[glb1969]

What an anti-science idelogue this guy is. His loyalty is to the worlds biggest moron (Bush) and he will continue to ignore science and reality until we get him out of his position. Next thing you know we'll hear Bush saying "Good job, Griffin. You ended this global warming mess for us by ignoring it"

What an idiot.

[bobnjersey]

[Nonetheless, 10,000 years would be more real than what I would suppose is your estimate for the age of the earth. That's why we have scientists in the world who have a better idea of what's going on. (hint: not the "scientists" who serve on the IPCC) ]
[Posted by CO2Max at 09:56 AM : Jun 01, 2007]

ahhh ... i see ... so it's 'which' scientists to believe ... like what sources to read ... and what talking points to repeat.

i'm not one to believe that scientists are 'making stuff up' to get money and power ... the typical 'no global warming' mantra ... they're typically driven by other motivations.

if you think 10k years is close ... good for you ... ignorance is bliss.

[co2max]

this mental giant probably thinks it was 10,000 years ago.
Posted by bobnjersey at 09:45 AM : Jun 01, 2007
---------------
I seriously doubt that. Be civil, please.
Nonetheless, 10,000 years would be more real than what I would suppose is your estimate for the age of the earth. That's why we have scientists in the world who have a better idea of what's going on. (hint: not the "scientists" who serve on the IPCC)