February 11, 2009 4:51 PM

Pure Horserace: All Eyes On Rudy, Romney

By
David L Miller
(CBS)  The first time all 10 Republicans gathered together for a nationally televised debate, the results were less than electric. But due to the attention some of these candidates have received in the past two weeks, more fireworks are expected when the field takes the stage tonight at the University of South Carolina.

Most eyes will be on Rudy Giuliani, who has been under a microscope of late on issues ranging from his consulting business connections to his evolving and sometimes confusing position on abortion.

The trouble for the former New York City mayor began at the last debate, held at the Ronald Reagan presidential library in California, where Giuliani appeared to simultaneously support the over-turning of Roe v. Wade while remaining a supporter of abortion rights. Either way the courts ultimately decided, he said, would be "OK" with him.

Pledges to appoint "strict constructionist" judges as president — code to conservatives for judges who would be more likely to overturn the 1973 Supreme Court decision — have failed to comfort abortion foes because they've been accompanied by Giuliani's firm support for a woman's right to choose. Expect more than a couple questions for Giuliani on the issue and several more on other social hot-buttons where he parts ways with many in the GOP base.

When Giuliani is not on the hot seat, Mitt Romney is likely to attract the attention of the Fox News debate moderators and maybe some of his rivals. As Giuliani has gotten intense scrutiny of late, Romney has enjoyed something of a media boomlet. He is on the current issue of Time magazine, was featured on 60 Minutes last Sunday night and has raised his profile through cable ads that are also running in Iowa and New Hampshire.

While both men came to the race with similar weaknesses on social issues near and dear to many Republicans who vote in the primary process, Romney has thus far handled the questions better. Whereas Giuliani has sought to walk a very narrow line on abortion, Romney simply changed his position altogether. Formerly a supporter of abortion rights, the former Massachusetts governor is now a staunch opponent of abortion. He has taken a similar approach to other social issues, such as gun control.

The primary beneficiary of all the increased scrutiny of these two, particularly Giuliani, could be John McCain, who is looking for redemption in South Carolina after his bruising loss here to President Bush six years ago. His performance at the last GOP debate was somewhat jittery in style but mostly solid on substance. And while many Republicans continue to talk of additions to the field such as Fred Thompson, the Arizona senator remains the de facto establishment candidate — something that has been a decided advantage for past GOP nominees.

As was the case in California, the rest of the field will look to somehow break out of the pack and move closer to the three current front-runners. Tommy Thompson has stepped into a number of verbal flubs of late, including one during the last debate where he said it would be acceptable for a private employer to fire a worker because of their sexual preference. Thompson has apologized and retracted the answer, blaming it on a bad hearing aid and illness.

Mike Huckabee, Sam Brownback, Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, Jim Gilmore and Ron Paul continue to be unable to distinguish themselves in this homogenous field. Their best chance for a big win tonight might just be more scrutiny of Giuliani. After all, when you can't bring yourself to the top of the group, it's just as good to bring the group to you. Vaughn Ververs, Columbia, S.C.


The Farmer And The Mayor Can Be Friends: Little gaffes in small states can become big problems in a presidential race — people talk to their neighbors, newspapers report on every small bit of news and, thanks to the Internet, a story once confined to a state can go national.

It comes as little surprise, then, that Rudy Giuliani quickly sought to return to the good graces of Jerry and Deborah VonSprecken, who own a farm in the small, eastern Iowa town of Olin. According to the Des Moines Register, Giuliani visited the couple on Monday after canceling a May 4 campaign appearance on their farm at the last minute.

The purpose of the event was to highlight Giuliani's opposition to the estate tax — sometimes called the "death tax" by Republicans, who often reference family farmers as its undeserving victims. But the former New York mayor's campaign canceled the event when they realized the VonSpreckens weren't rich enough to be subject to the tax.

But by stopping by the farm to apologize (and making the VonSpreckens his campaign leaders in Jones County), Giuliani appears to have smoothed things over and lowered the chances of being badmouthed on the Iowa farmer gossip circuit. — David Miller


Dodd Goes On The Air, On The Offensive: Democrat Chris Dodd launched his first TV ad this week, with a spot airing in Iowa and New Hampshire. But Dodd isn't bothering to go with one of the biographical spots that are common in the early campaign. Instead, he's calling out his Democratic opponents, accusing them of being weak in their opposition to the Iraq war.

Overlooking the White House in the ad, Dodd says: "Half measures won't stop this president from continuing our involvement in Iraq's civil war. That's why I'm fighting for the only responsible measure in Congress that would take away the president's blank check and set a timetable to bring our troops home." He then adds, "Unfortunately, my colleagues running for president have not joined me."

The ad represents one of the first examples of a candidate "going negative," if only mildly so, in this election. So far, Dodd's candidacy has been solidly second-tier. Perhaps a bold TV ad will vault him into prominence — but it also carries the substantial risk of turning voters away from him for going on the attack so early. — David Miller


But If You Thought That Was Negative … The presidential race is, for the moment, mostly two separate battles within the Democratic and Republican parties. But apparently partisanship is already rearing its ugly head in Iowa.

According to the Des Moines Register, the headquarters of the Iowa Democratic Party was vandalized over the weekend, with an unknown assailant shattering a window on the front of the party's building with an unknown object. Police have no suspects in the incident, and the state party is declining to speculate on political motivations, calling the episode a "random act of vandalism."

Let's hope it was exactly that — otherwise, the mean streets of Des Moines could be a dangerous place for politics by time winter rolls around. — David Miller
By Vaughn Ververs and David Miller

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by buckinohio May 16, 2007 12:55 PM EDT
Ron Paul was the only honest candidate in the debate that represents the views of the American people. Old media needs to wake up and understand that shoving old media's candidates down internet America's throats isn't going to fly in today's modern internet world.
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by buckinohio May 16, 2007 12:51 PM EDT
Ron Paul was the only honest candidate in the debate that represents the views of the American people. Old media needs to wake up and understand that shoving old media's candidates down internet America's throats isn't going to fly in today's modern internet world.
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by sos4usa May 16, 2007 7:32 AM EDT
Oh by the way - the last Ron Paul debate poll number I saw on MSNBC or FOX online was 62% favorite. Now what do you think about that? Nondistinguishable???
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by sos4usa May 16, 2007 7:28 AM EDT
Ron Paul has the biggest balls of anyone in the debates to take on the reason for 9/11 as being CIA Blowback for involvement in their country, and to ask what would we do if the shoe was one the other foot ?(like if chinese did to us what we do to middle eastern countries) It was a blow in the face of these 9/11 flag waving Neocon heroes. It kind of takes away their glory and Ron showed us a way to get to peace with the Islamic countries...stop trying to kill them and blow them up. Its probably a dream, but I would like to see RON again in the debates. No one can touch him.
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by jjrglobal May 16, 2007 3:56 AM EDT
It is disgraceful how Dr. Paul has been treated during and after each of these debates. I know the American public will see through the tactics that are being use to deprive us of a true leader, someone who cares about America and has the intelligence and integrity to turn this country around while we still can.
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by davyrocket1 May 16, 2007 1:54 AM EDT
Ron Paul wins again in my opinion.

Rudy McRomney need to get out of the way now, they are clearly the liberals of the Party and the big losers again.

Go Ron Paul. America loves you!

www.ronpaul2008.com

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by abitarecatan May 16, 2007 1:27 AM EDT
Anyone who thinks Ron Paul is homogenous to the other GOP cannidates is:
A. A fool
B. A liar
C. A Hack
D. All of the above

Ron Paul won the debate and anyone who watched the debate knows it.
MSNBC Lying: http://buenosairesenglish.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-is-msnbc-lying.html http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ron_paul_demolishes_other_republicans_in_online_polls/
ABC tried to hide Ron Paul victory also: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BeSeenBeHeard/popup?id=3135373
CSPAN Has Ron Paul victory: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=103899
Youtube debate Ron Paul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBGJwE9NXo
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by srauly May 16, 2007 12:01 AM EDT
Another pathetic assessment from the mainstream media about the Republican options. I've grown accustomed to mainstream media reporters altering the truth by "leaving out" information. That's how Ron Paul's story has largely been handled thus far: simply leave him out of the story altogether. But when you actually mention him in a sentence and state that he "continues to be unable to distinguish himself" (sic), is that nothing short of outright lying? If *no one* stood out from the pack and distinguished himself by disagreeing with the party line in the last "debate", was it not Ron Paul?

As a side-note: Kudos to CBS News for limiting comments here by requiring people to hand over just about every piece of personal info short of an SSN. Exactly why do you need my real name and DOB? I've run several online forums and have never required as much personal info. Yeesh.
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by londoninny May 15, 2007 10:23 PM EDT
Mitt Romney=Empty Suit and I mean completely empty. Has been on every side of every major issue to suit the political winds of fortune.

Ron Paul=Truth Teller, Protector of Liberty and the Constitution. Dangerous to entrenched interests and his success will always be downplayed by the media who are pushing Romney and establishment candidates.

McCain=His time has passed. Too old. Wrong man at the wrong time. Should have been the nominee in 2000 but for the Dirty Tricks of the Neo-Cons (PNAC) Rove and Bush-Cheney Campaign who were hell bent on stealing the election. Straight talk express was derailed by political pragmatism to appeal to right wing fruitcakes. He tried honesty, it did not work. He should have just switched parties. But as a political ho he rode the fence.

Sam Brownback=Hack. Stands for NOTHING.

Mike Huckabee=Not Presidential Timber.

Fred Thompson=Nonsensical candidate for people who need Television character authority figure. Being sold to American public as heir to Regan Legacy. In short, they think Americans are stupid.

***GIULIANI: THE ONLY SERIOUS CANDIDATE IN THE RACE. He has some serious hurdles/issues BUT at least HE has not compromised every aspect of his integrity to get through the primary process. He is not solely telling people what they want to hear.
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by exminis May 15, 2007 10:01 PM EDT
Ron Paul is an excellent candidate that you seem to dismiss. He did extremely well in the first debate.
He has been against the Iraq war from the start, and is THE only proponent of truly small, constitutional government and personal freedom we have.

If you are looking for someone to differentiate the candidates just pay attention to Ron Paul.
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