ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, May 15, 2007

Muslim Peacekeeping Force For Iraq?

Pakistani President Proposes Multi-National, All Muslim Contingent, Removal Of "Outside Interference"

  • Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, left, salutes as he arrives to attend the 34th session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers in Islamabad, Pakistan on Tuesday, May 15, 2007. Photo

    Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, left, salutes as he arrives to attend the 34th session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers in Islamabad, Pakistan on Tuesday, May 15, 2007.  (AP Photo/Anjum Naveed)

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Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf on Tuesday proposed sending a Muslim peacekeeping force to Iraq. Musharraf has suggested his own country would send thousands of troops to join the effort, should such a plan come together.

He made the proposal at a conference of foreign ministers from Islamic countries Tuesday, following months of reports that Pakistan was lobbying for an Islamic military force to ease the burden of the U.S. military fighting against a deadly Iraqi insurgency.

Arab diplomats familiar with the Pakistani proposal tell CBS News that Pakistan is keen to build up a role for itself in the Iraq effort, by way of contributing largely to such a man-power effort. The diplomats suggest Musharraf sees the force as a way to forge closer relations with the U.S.

Musharraf and President Bush are already close allies in the U.S.-led war on terror. But Gen. Musharraf faces mounting protests at home from Pakistan's opposition political parties, while the Democrats who control Congress have increasingly questioned America's huge economical support to the south Asian country.

"The mass killing that is taking place (in Iraq), the carnage that is taking place there, has to stop. If all the warring factions — different factions in Iraq — if they accept, then maybe a Muslim peacekeeping force under the United Nations umbrella could be looked at", said Musharraf in his opening speech to the conference.

"We have to stop all outside interference in Iraq. The carnage that is taking place there has to stop, and if outside interference stops, I think internal control would be possible," Musharraf said.

Over the next two days, the foreign ministers who have gathered in Islamabad for the 57-member Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) will discuss ways of revitalizing their group, a senior Arab diplomat attending the conference said. But he agreed that Pakistan, being the host of the event, was well placed to push for a multinational Islamic force for Iraq.

"It's impossible to say how far this idea will go. This is a complex issue," said one Arab diplomat, who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity. A key difficulty for such a contingent would be negotiating the deep divide and bitter resentment between Iraq's majority Shiite Muslim population and its minority Sunnis.

Pakistan's majority population is Sunni. Other countries that Pakistan has quietly been in touch with on the subject, including Egypt, Indonesia and Malaysia, are also largely Sunni countries. The world's only predominantly Shiite country, other than Iraq, is Iran.

Diplomats said it was unlikely the U.S. would accept a role for any members of the Iranian military in a future peacekeeping effort, despite recent reports of behind the scenes contacts between U.S. and Iranian officials.

"An Iranian army in Iraq for peacekeeping purposes is not something the U.S. will accept under the circumstances," said one senior western diplomat in Islamabad.


Farhan Bokhari has been covering southeast Asia for several large European news organizations for 16 years. Based in Islamabad, his focus is security issues, in particular al Qaeda and the regional aspects of the global fight against terrorism.

By Farhan Bokhari
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by antoniof123 May 15, 2007 10:43 AM PDT
I am sick of this *** with Islam let them fix their own problems. If we need the oil that bad then we should just buy it like the rest of the world. Oh wait this administation thinks it better to steal it is more of a god quality suited for the Republican neo con party facist pigs.
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by mbcsmith May 15, 2007 10:50 AM PDT
antonio

you ARE the great communicator. Your name calling and ignorant posting reflects the true makeup of your ilk. The U.S. military WILL accomplish the mission unless the LIBS SURRENDER! Godspeed and best wishes to our fighting forces. Keep up the good work.
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by fredgrad2000 May 15, 2007 10:51 AM PDT
antoniof123 - are you kidding me with such an uneducated post? Try looking at current and recent oil prices and resulting gasoline prices..."stealing" their oil? The OPEC cartel owns the oil, not the US. Look at what happened last time oil went down and gas prices fell below $2/gallon...Iran kidnapped some British sailors and prices have gone up and stayed up since! If we're "stealing" the oil, what are we doing with it!? It sure isn't coming here or to our allies to help with our soaring gas and oil prices!! "Stealing their oil" - Go back to Al Jazeera and MoveOn.org where they buy that sort of looney left shi+.
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by skyhawk761 May 15, 2007 11:06 AM PDT
That would be sort of like the fox watching the hen house wouldn't you say? But I guess it's better that hteir people die than ours.
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by fredgrad2000 May 15, 2007 11:10 AM PDT
antoniof123 - are you kidding me with such an uneducated post? Try looking at current and recent oil prices and resulting gasoline prices..."stealing" their oil? The OPEC cartel owns the oil, not the US. Look at what happened last time oil went down and gas prices fell below $2/gallon...Iran kidnapped some British sailors and prices have gone up and stayed up since! If we're "stealing" the oil, what are we doing with it!? It sure isn't coming here or to our allies to help with our soaring gas and oil prices!! "Stealing their oil" - Go back to Al Jazeera and MoveOn.org where they buy that sort of looney left shi+.
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by bizzzz-2009 May 15, 2007 11:24 AM PDT
To veteran71
Here's a conspiracy theory for you. I say George Bush entered us into this war on the warning of extraterrestrials that have been monitoring this planet, have insight into the future, and delivered a message to a select few high ranking government officials of the dangers and darkness that would rise from an Islamic world government. George Bush senior, who headed the CIA for years, was and is still one of these select contacts. He, along with the other government contacts orchestrated the election of his son so that they could keep the alien contact secret, preventing the society's religious beliefs from being compromised and preventing overall panic.
I say not only is George Bush the greatest President, he is the most important President ever, residing at the helm of a turning point in this World history- a struggle between freedom and oppression, good and evil- a new world order that will usher in either a future of light or a failure resulting in a future of darkness.
How else could Bush take such a relentless political beating, day in and day out, if the future of the world didn't depend on it?
The Democrats can't be in on the secret because of their complete transparency of policy and their inability to keep a secret. That along with their overall disinterest in religion, and strive for secularism would blow the lid off of all of it. The story would be on CNN that night and society would spiral into chaos.
How%u2019s that for a conspiracy?

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by skyk-2009 May 15, 2007 12:12 PM PDT
Go back to Al Jazeera and MoveOn.org where they buy that sort of looney left shi+.
Posted by fredgrad2000 at 10:51 AM : May 15, 20

What is it with you Nazi's. Must you attack EVERY person who has an opinion that isn't approved by your Reich Ministry? You "hate anyone who doesn't agree with us" losers have this nation in a mess the likes of which we have never seen and you are still on here every day with your "Hate them because I say they are 'Liberal'. I mean even a dumber than rocks dog can figure out that Sir Lies-A-Lot and the Southern Hood and Sheet Crowd are as INCOMPETENT as any humans on the planet and hated much more.
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by connapa May 15, 2007 12:12 PM PDT
FINALLY! Somebody has finally come up with a logical solution to the continuing problems in Iraq.A group of Muslim peacekeepers would be much less objectionable than the current western Non-Muslim forces in the country. And as to Bush objecting to Iran being included, I think that question and its subsequent answer should be left up to the people of Iraq and their "Democratically" chosen representatives.
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by toldyouso21 May 15, 2007 12:20 PM PDT
Musharref wants to use Pakistani forces in Iraq as cover for the slaughter he plans against the opposition at home. No Muslim country would enter the war in Iraq due to the danger of unrest at home--but Musharref is counting on it.

He is trying to hold onto power and pretend to be a democracy instead of a military dictatorship but a few things keep getting in the way of his image: like the fact he won't let go of his control of the army. Like the fact he gets rid of judges who are independent. It is time for a purge--to prevent a full scale insurrection, Musharref would like to kill off opposition and enemies under cover of the "war on terror" and paint his victims as opponents of his Iraqi involvement--thereby nullifying criticisms that he is just a military thug.

Plain as day--one has only to follow the actions in Pakistan of late to see this particular end game. I wonder how many other countries will use the war on terror to subjugate and terrorize their own citizens. Who says one cannot learn a lot from a dummy?
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by toldyouso21 May 15, 2007 12:24 PM PDT
antoniof123 - are you kidding me with such an uneducated post? Try looking at current and recent oil prices and resulting gasoline prices..."stealing" their oil? The OPEC cartel owns the oil, not the US. Look at what happened last time oil went down and gas prices fell below $2/gallon...Iran kidnapped some British sailors and prices have gone up and stayed up since! If we're "stealing" the oil, what are we doing with it!? It sure isn't coming here or to our allies to help with our soaring gas and oil prices!! "Stealing their oil" - Go back to Al Jazeera and MoveOn.org where they buy that sort of looney left shi+.
Posted by fredgrad2000 at 10:51 AM : May 15, 2007


Ahem. Take a look at the record profit of oil companies. Then tell us again how it is the cartels doing this to America. Get a clue. They are cheaper than oil these days.
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by toldyouso21 May 15, 2007 12:28 PM PDT
"We have to stop all outside interference in Iraq. The carnage that is taking place there has to stop, and if outside interference stops, I think internal control would be possible," Musharraf said."

This is my most favorite line. Both America and other countries use this. The funniest part? None seem to recognize that THEY are the outside interferences in Iraq also. it is as if those who fight there have an identity crisis and do not realize that the only none outside interference in Iraq are Iraqis--everyone else, including the US and Pakistan and Al Qaeda--EVERYONE ELSE-----is an outside force. rotflmao.

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by rsoxfan1123 May 15, 2007 12:51 PM PDT
Follow the money trail to who exactly has profited from this war. It leads right to the major bush campaign contributors. I posted up a list the other day-those same Bush/Cheney good ole boy oil and defense contractors have made an absolute fortune off of this war, typically from no-bid contracts. Look at how much cheney himself has made simply from his Halliburton stock.
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 12:57 PM PDT
It will be perfectly o.k to send Pakistani troops to Iraq, because:
1] Our troops will no longer be killed
2] Pakistanis will work there for peace keeping at a relatively much lower price (finances/arms etc.etc.)
Remember, Alqaeda is an equal enemy to Pakistan army then why dont we send Pakistanis to Iraq?????
Let Pakistanis handle it and we get free. I think Bush will take a +tve step to call back troops.
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by huskerarmy May 15, 2007 1:01 PM PDT
"The OPEC cartel owns the oil, not the US. Look at what happened last time oil went down and gas prices fell below $2/gallon...Iran kidnapped some British sailors and prices have gone up and stayed up since!"
fredgrad2000, You have got to be kidding. year after year, Exxon sets new record profits, toppling that of the previous year, and you want to give them a pass? They have got to be so thankful to have the kind of tools who can be so easily manipulated with the waving of a flag and yellow ribbon for their SUV's.
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 1:02 PM PDT
We can never ever rely on Iranians in any case. They fought wars with Iraq so to even deploying Iranian peace keeping forces in Iraq will be a nightmare.
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by infidel_us May 15, 2007 1:03 PM PDT
Muslim Peacekeeping Force?!?!?!?!?! LOL
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by diplomacy3 May 15, 2007 1:04 PM PDT
Musharraf's proposal is nothing more than his country's reassurance of close coop. and may not receive a positive response from the Arab world. Pakistan is US close ally and the proposal for an Islamic peace force by Musharraf excluding Iran and perhaps Syria is clearly sending a wrong signal. The situation in Iraq is quite different than Africa. Under whose command the peace keeping force would function would be the question, if any Arab country gives the nod to Musharraf's proposal. The proposal could also be weighed on Musharraf's own losing grip over the current situation in Pakistan.
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by rushman71 May 15, 2007 1:06 PM PDT
With Islam, there is no peace. Not even between the Sunnies and the Shiites.
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by walt1944-2009 May 15, 2007 1:21 PM PDT
Finally a common sense solution that might bring some kind of peace in Iraq. Let the Muslim world handle stability in Iraq so we can bring our guys and gals home. But, if I know the Bushies, this won't be acceptable because we will have "failed in our mission (whatever that means)" and the Bushies won't like the idea of the Islamic world coming to OUR rescue! Also, the big oil companies won'e be able to get their hands on Iraq's oil, and the Bushies won't stand for that!
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 1:25 PM PDT
We dont have to think that whether Islamic or Pakistani peace keeping force will pass or fail in Iraq. We need to save our troops and money. Those who think that our soldiers are for free and be crushed like carrots, they are with -tive thinking to stay in Iraq.
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by edjohn66 May 15, 2007 1:30 PM PDT
I think Muslims have an unusually high irritability level associated with superchez1's posts.

Is it any wonder the Middle East hates us with rants like superchez's filling up our discussions here in the States?
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by edjohn66 May 15, 2007 1:34 PM PDT
I think Muslims have an unusually high irritability level associated with superchez1's posts.

Is it any wonder the Middle East hates us with rants like superchez's filling up our discussions here in the States?
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by archangelric May 15, 2007 1:36 PM PDT
Now wait a minute guys, lets be open to the concept: a multinational muslim force taking over security duties in Iraq (and possibly, if it can establish itself as a legitimate force, in other middle eastern conflicts)

While this immediately helps the US; consider what it does to Iraq - a legitimate muslim force keeping the peace; a primarily Sunni force getting the Sunni insurgents to stop the killing, the IED's, etc.

Also consider this force as a counterbalance to Iran and their ambitions in the region.

The biggest question to be answered in the next few days is whether the other large Sunni countries buy in to this: Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc.
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by rsoxfan1123 May 15, 2007 1:38 PM PDT
A Trojan horse?
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 1:43 PM PDT
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by randalds May 15, 2007 2:14 PM PDT
I think it's a fantastic idea! Along with the fact that it'll get our troops out of the middle of this insane civil war that Bush started, it'll also show the Muslim world the single most important thing to all of them, that we do not plan to have a permanent military presence in Iraq. Bush says we don't, but of course he's a liar and invading Iraq was expressly for the purpose of building permanent bases there so we can intimidate and/or invade Iran and Syria, despite White House denials of this obvious fact. Still if Bush says we have no designs on staying militarily in Iraq permanently then now is the time for him to put up or shut up. Prove it George! Here's your chance!
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by macusweil May 15, 2007 2:36 PM PDT
What freaking brilliant idea!! .. Someone give that man a gold star!!

Bush Jr and the GOP lead Congress with $500,000,000,000 dollars and 130,000 troops have done nothing but create open flame from a smoldering civil war left over from the first gulf conflict under Bush Sr.
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by diplomacy3 May 15, 2007 2:41 PM PDT
superchez1

You thought the muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan were animals that we went after them to slaughter. Now our Congressmen are calling Iraq a "meat grinder" for our soldiers. How would you describe it? Do you agree?
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by grazinggoat May 15, 2007 2:43 PM PDT
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"An Iranian army in Iraq for peacekeeping purposes is not something the U.S. will accept under the circumstances."
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Unnamed Western diplomat
-This diplomat is so young that his parents have not had time to give him a name... too much pressure on him. Poor little baby...
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 2:45 PM PDT
NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???

if it is ok for fascist nazi islamic muslims to kill all non muslims everywhere.... is it ok for the non muslims to kill all fascist nazi islamic muslims???

Wouldn't killing 5.1 BILLION people (the number of non muslims in the world) be the very definition of barbarism???
Or is it fascist nazi islam%u2019s way of solving global warming???

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
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by susanhelit May 15, 2007 2:52 PM PDT
Good deal, about time.

It's a simple fact that we've been their enemy too long, they're too paranoid about our intentions. No matter what we do, it'll be slanted negatively - we'd do the same if they were occupying us. But set a muslim force there, and they'll be more comfortable, and take from them what they'd never take from us.

Just think about it - we're occupied, soldiers standing on your block, running road checkpoints. How quick will you be to believe a nasty rumor about them if they are from Afghanistan? How quick will you be to believe the exact same rumor if they are from England?

A muslim UN force would be a very good thing for us.
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by ivandrago May 15, 2007 2:55 PM PDT
The plan could work. The multinationals could take on the Sunnis, while the Iraq forces took on the Shiite insurgents. The U.S. could go low profile, and just monitor the situation. Hope it works out.
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 2:56 PM PDT
A muslim UN force would be a very good thing for us.
Posted by SusanHelit at 02:52 PM : May 15, 2007

NOT!!! they would leave the fascist nazi islamic muslim global jihadists free to plan and execute attacts on non muslims around the globe...

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 3:04 PM PDT
what do you call an organization that:

kills you if you don't join it...

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=82201&ln=eng&txt=islam%20law%20kill%20kaafir

kills you if you leave it...

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=696&ln=eng&txt=kaafir%20kill

kills you if you don't do what they tell you to do..

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=6035&ln=eng&txt=kaafir%20kill

kills you if you speak against it%u2026.

http://islamqa.com/index.php?QR=22809&ln=eng

kills anybody that is not a member of it...

http://www.hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran5.html

still practices pagan rituals...

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/pagansources.htm

allows the r a p e of babies and animals...

http://www.homa.org/default.asp?TOCID=2083225445

a. satanic cult???
b. islam???
c. all the above???

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan
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by crater7 May 15, 2007 3:06 PM PDT
GREAT IDEA!

Bush has said many times that if someone come up with a better plan for Iraq, he would give it consideration.

Well here it is. GREAT Idea, Bush and his cronies should jump at the idea.

Bush can claim it was his Idea, and Cheney, Rice, can say they brokered the idea with Mursharraf, under the orders of the President.

WA-LA: Bush, gets out of Iraq, and saves face, and adds to his legacy, and Historical standings.

Only one problem. Bush and his cronies cannot make any more money by stealing from the American tax payers. I'm sure he will find a way.
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 3:22 PM PDT
lars008, if we start thinking in your way, I am afraid that our soldiers will have to live in Iraq forever.
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 3:26 PM PDT
lars008, if we start thinking in your way, I am afraid that our soldiers will have to live in Iraq forever.
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by crater7 May 15, 2007 3:29 PM PDT
Its time to defeat facist nazi islam once and for all.lars008;

How do you plan to do this? Bush can't even come up with a plan to secure Baghdad, much less Iraq.

Who do you consider the FACIST NAZI ISLAM?

Maybe you would like to let the world know how you plan to achieve this feat.
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by diplomacy3 May 15, 2007 3:32 PM PDT
What an idea by President Musharraf!

Does he needs an international peace keeping force to curb the current judicial crisis and bombing in Pakistan?
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 3:33 PM PDT
" Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?r
ef=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20ara
bia%20pagan "

Posted by lars008 at 02:56 PM : May 15, 2007
________________________

There are many websites of so called Islamic Mullahs which present wrong picture of Islam to the people in order to mix religion with politics. I would advise you not to waste your time on so called Islamic websites those are full of rubbish.
I have many Muslim friends and they tell me that there isn't any thing in Koran or Islam to kill non Muslims. All such interpretations are given by the specific, different Islam of Alqaeeda and Taliban. They promote violence and their religion, made by their Mullahs ask them to kill others.
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 3:34 PM PDT
lars008, if we start thinking in your way, I am afraid that our soldiers will have to live in Iraq forever.
Posted by tomflint69 at 03:26 PM : May 15, 2007

you mean like they are in afghanistan, former yugoslavia, korea, japan, germany, etc etc etc...

It is convenient for liberals and fascist nazi Islamic muslims to forget that the "Grand Mufti of Jerusalem" went to Germany as a guest of Hitler during WWII...and begged Hitler to find the "final solution" to the jewish problem. This same Grand mufti used his influence to raise Two Muslim SS Divisions in Yugoslavia (Kosovo) and Albaina. These divisions were responsible for the murder of almost 1 Million jews, Serbs and Gypsies.

This same Grand Mufti was the maternal uncle of Yassir Arafat! The Mufti's war continues today worldwide.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/nazi_arab.htm
http://www.sullivan-county.com/id4/mufti.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=grand+mufti of jerusalem
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 3:39 PM PDT
MUHAMMAD's CALLS OUT TO HIS SATANIC GOD ON HIS DEATH BED...

religion of peace??? then why would muhammad say this??? allah obviously not the same God as the Christians and Jews.......

"Allah's damnation be on the Jews and the Christians who made the graves of their prophets objects of worship."

When the last moment of the prophet was near, he used to draw a sheet over his face; but when he felt uneasy, he removed it from his face and said: "Allah's damnation be on the Jews and the Christians who made the graves of their prophets objects of worship."

Muhammad attacked Khaibar. He destroyed, tortured, murdered, plundered, and enslaved many people (ref Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, volume 2, page 134, 136, 137). They were not preparing to attack him. A Jewish woman, whose family had been wiped out by Muhammad, put poison into a lamb and fed it to Muhammad and the other Muslims. Muhammad ingested some of the poisoned lamb and began to feel it's effects. He died three years later as a result of the poisoning.

Muhammad was not a real prophet, he was a false prophet. He died as a result of eating poison that he didn't know about. The poisoned lamb "spoke" to him too late. Only when he realized he was dying did Muhammad "spiritualize" his suffering and coming death. Prior to that he tried to get well.
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Silas/mo-death.htm
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/index.html
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by diplomacy3 May 15, 2007 3:49 PM PDT
lars008:

Would you pl. stop messing up this discussion board with pastings. Have some respect for others? Pl. stick to the topic.

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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 3:55 PM PDT
Pl. stick to the topic.
Posted by diplomacy3 at 03:49 PM : May 15, 2007

the topic is fascist nazi islam nancy....

and the war for global domination they started 1400 years ago...

if it is ok for fascist nazi islamic muslims to kill all non muslims everywhere.... is it ok for the non muslims to kill all fascist nazi islamic muslims???

Wouldn't killing 5.1 BILLION people (the number of non muslims in the world) be the very definition of barbarism???
Or is it fascist nazi islam%u2019s way of solving global warming???

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
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by tomflint69 May 15, 2007 3:58 PM PDT
" Muhammad was not a real prophet, he was a false prophet. He died as a result of eating poison that he didn't know about. "

lars008! we just wana save our soldiers and incurring expenses in Iraq.
I am not interested in Islam, in their Prophet and in their history.
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by crater7 May 15, 2007 3:58 PM PDT
lars008;

When your Prpohet commanded you to fight the KAAFIRS, did he give you a battle plan?
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by randalds May 15, 2007 4:02 PM PDT
what do you call an organization that:

kills you if you don't join it...

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=822
01&ln=eng&txt=islam%20law%20kill%20kaafi
r

kills you if you leave it...

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=696
&ln=eng&txt=kaafir%20kill

kills you if you don't do what they tell you to do..

http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=603
5&ln=eng&txt=kaafir%20kill

kills you if you speak against it%u2026.

http://islamqa.com/index.php?QR=2280
9&ln=eng

kills anybody that is not a member of it...

http://www.hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran
5.html

still practices pagan rituals...

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/pag
ansources.htm

allows the r a p e of babies and animals...

http://www.homa.org/default.asp?TOCI
D=2083225445

a. satanic cult???
b. islam???
c. all the above???

Posted by lars008 at 03:04 PM : May 15, 2007

D. The neoconservative right wing of the republican party. Though as I've said the baby raping only happens at Foley's and Haggard's parties and the animal raping only at Cheney.
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by lars008-2009 May 15, 2007 4:04 PM PDT
When your Prpohet commanded you to fight the KAAFIRS, did he give you a battle plan?
Posted by crater7 at 03:58 PM : May 15, 2007

it's called the quran haji...

the war muhammad started rages on 1400 years later...
623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-'Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa'
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
http://www.carm.org/islam/islam_chronology.htm
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by randalds May 15, 2007 4:06 PM PDT
lars008! we just wana save our soldiers and incurring expenses in Iraq.
I am not interested in Islam, in their Prophet and in their history.
Posted by tomflint69 at 03:58 PM : May 15, 2007

Neither is Lars. He's a RNC paid troll. He's paid to muddle up websites like this one with changing the subject and out and out lies. To him it doesn't matter what the subject is he operates off a cut and paste list of phony stories for all of them. he hasn't the slightest interest in discussing anything because he's not paid to. He's just paid to try to deflect any criticism from the White House, no matter how crazy he has to sound to do it. He's a troll.
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by diplomacy3 May 15, 2007 4:07 PM PDT
Are you setting scores here? If so, then its a matter of concern for all participants. I need to refer it to CBS "Rules of engagement". They will take care of it.
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