February 11, 2009 4:53 PM

No Bail For Fort Dix Six

(CBS/AP)  Six men arrested this week and charged with plotting to massacre soldiers at Fort Dix were ordered held without bail on Friday.

Prosecutors argued that the men, all born outside the United States, pose a flight risk.

The men — four of them ethnic Albanians from the former Yugoslavia, one from Jordan and one from Turkey — have been held at a federal detention center in Philadelphia since their arrest Monday night.

Five of the men are charged with conspiring to kill uniformed military personnel, an offense punishable by life in prison. They are Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22; Serdar Tatar, 23; Dritan "Anthony" or "Tony" Duka, 28; Shain Duka, 26; and Eljvir "Elvis" Duka, 23,

Agron Abdullahu, 24, is charged with helping illegal immigrants obtain weapons, and could face 10 years in prison if convicted.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Stigall argued against letting Shnewer be released on bail to the custody of his parents while awaiting trial.

"The problem with this package is that the actions that are alleged were going on at that house," he said.

Friends and relatives of Shnewer offered to post several properties they own worth a total of about $600,000 as collateral to support bail for him.

A more detailed bail hearing will be held next Thursday for Abdullahu, who faces the least serious charges of the six.

Authorities say the men were preparing to buy automatic weapons to use in an attack on Fort Dix when they were arrested. They targeted the Army post, which is 25 miles east of Philadelphia and primarily used to train reservists, partly because one of them had delivered pizzas there and was familiar with the base, according to court filings. The objective: to kill "as many American soldiers as possible."

Read the federal criminal complaint (.pdf)
The men, all in their 20s, have lived in and around Philadelphia for years, worshipped at moderate mosques, have family members close by and worked blue-collar jobs installing roofs, driving a cab, delivering pizzas and baking bread.

Defense lawyers for some of the men said they are considering attacking the prosecution's heavy reliance on two paid informants who infiltrated the group more than a year ago and recorded conversations with the defendants.

Attorney Rocco Cipparone, who is representing defendant Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, whom he described as a "hardworking cab driver," said he'll look into "the role of paid informants and how aggressive they were in potentially prodding or moving things along."

Authorities said they first learned about the men in January 2006 after a tip from a clerk at a Mount Laurel electronics store. The clerk called local police because a home video the men wanted transferred to a DVD looked like it might have terrorist links, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said.

Earlier this year, authorities said, the men took a training trip to the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania, where they fired weapons and played paintball to prepare for an attack.

In the wake of 9/11, more than 400,000 names have come under one form of government surveillance or another, from watch lists to wiretaps, reported CBS News chief investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian.

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by lilbossy May 14, 2007 12:51 PM EDT
Premeditated murders but they are "hard workers"
they say.Illegals who help illegals obtain
weapons.Other news states 3 are born here 2 were
illegal.Are they going to release an illegal
to his illegal mommy and daddy?or WHERE will they release him? Sad when illegals can own
$600,000 worth of proberty.Thanks to thier
friends Bank of a America.Bottom line here
foreigners.Close the borders.
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by bhappy2-2 May 12, 2007 7:27 PM EDT
I think these idiots should be taken to Guantanamo with the other terrorists, treated the same as if they were captured in Iraq or Afganistan. And when the time comes, execute all of them in the same fashion as so many people in the terrorist countries- behead them in a public area with swords dull enough to require sawing to complete the severing. Any others thinking along the same lines MIGHT think twice before trying it, but I doubt it would stop them. These people live only to kill Americans, by whatever means is available to them. The only way to stop them is to kill them first!
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by feelfree1 May 11, 2007 10:10 PM EDT
bizzzz,

One more note: I don't consider the neo-fscists that have infested our government to be "conservative".
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by feelfree1 May 11, 2007 9:56 PM EDT
bizzzz,

Re: "Are you insinuating CBS has become a propaganda tool for the conservatives?"

CBS is a part of the large Western Corporate media empire, Viacom. To think that they don't have a tendency to toe the pro-Corporate line seems pretty naive to me.

Besides, CBS regularly gives voice to overwhelmingly discredited neo-fascistic propaganda publications like the Weekly Standard, and the National Review Online.

CBS also regularly presents unchallenged reports from groups like the SITE Institute, as though these reports are credible, even though the SITE Institute is a pretty obvious and amateurish disinformation factory.
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by bizzzz-2009 May 11, 2007 9:47 PM EDT
To feelfree1
To answer your question. I don't know why CBS is allowing comments on this "propanganda" story you feel is ridiculous and irrelevant, but not allowing comments on the 23 dead.
Are you insinuating CBS has become a propaganda tool for the conservatives? If so, there probably a couple CBS staffers monitoring this site that are laughing their a$$es off right now.
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by radiob-2009 May 11, 2007 9:47 PM EDT
Let see they were ten men in the video firing off automatic weapons. They have arrested six men and do not mention the other four in this article. The six men arrested according to authorites were preparing to buy automatic weapons. See pasted quote from article below.
This story has a lot of gaping holes in it.
Poor reporting ?????????????



Authorities say the men were preparing to buy automatic weapons to use in an attack on Fort Dix when they were arrested. They targeted the Army post, which is 25 miles east of Philadelphia and primarily used to train reservists, partly because one of them had delivered pizzas there and was familiar with the base, according to court filings. The objective: to kill "as many American soldiers as possible."


From the previous article

The video showed 10 young men in their early 20s "shooting assault weapons at a firing range ... while calling for jihad and shouting in Arabic 'Allah Akbar' (God is great)," the complaint said. The 10 included the six men who were arrested, authorities said.
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by petesis May 11, 2007 9:27 PM EDT
Bush policies cause more terrorism than anything. Bin Laden counts on Bush to fill his ranks. And Bush delivers.
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by feelfree1 May 11, 2007 9:08 PM EDT
I wonder why CBS is allowing comments on this ridiculous and irrelevant propaganda article, while not allowing comments on the "23 Killed In Baghdad Car Bombings" story?
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by jimc52 May 11, 2007 9:03 PM EDT
What these plotters were forgetting is that if they did this to soldiers in their own respective countries, in an Islamic Nation, they would be thrown off of a minarette, if not have their heads chopped off in a public square (like Saudi Arabia). At least they are getting to keep their lives here, right? Good ole' us, being so humanitarian about the matter. I guess it is the mark of a civilized nation that lets foreign killers and murderers have their lives with dignity. As for the one so "American"...he deserves the same the others are getting. I truely think they should be tried under Islamic Law for the offenses they are guilty of...it might be a signal to other traitors and murderers what they will get in the name of Jihad.
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by jimc52 May 11, 2007 8:59 PM EDT
What these plotters were forgetting is that if they did this to soldiers in their own respective countries, in an Islamic Nation, they would be thrown off of a minarette, if not have their heads chopped off in a public square (like Saudi Arabia). At least they are getting to keep their lives here, right? Good ole' us, being so humanitarian about the matter. I guess it is the mark of a civilized nation that lets foreign killers and murderers have their lives with dignity. As for the one so "American"...he deserves the same the others are getting. I truely think they should be tried under Islamic Law for the offenses they are guilty of...it might be a signal to other traitors and murderers what they will get in the name of Jihad.
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