Putin Offers Blunt Victory Day Speech

Russian Leader Appears To Draw Parallels Between U.S. And Nazi Germany Policies

(AP)  Who was President Vladimir Putin talking about when he said the world faces threats to peace like those that led to World War II?

Putin's statement at a Victory Day parade on Red Square on Wednesday was artfully phrased to be both blunt and vague, but political observers have little doubt he was criticizing the United States for "disrespect for human life, claims to global exclusiveness and dictate, just as it was in the time of the Third Reich."

While Putin didn't name any particular country in the speech marking the 1945 defeat of Nazi Germany, the remarks echoed his increasingly strong criticism of the perceived U.S. domination in global affairs.

Political analysts close to the Kremlin say that Putin referred to the United States in his remarks, expressing Russia's dismay at what it views as U.S. unilateralism in world affairs and disrespect for other countries' interests.

"Hitler was striving for global domination, and the United States is striving for global domination now," Sergei Markov, the Kremlin-connected head of the Moscow-based Institute for Political Research, told The Associated Press. "Hitler thought he was above the League of Nations, and the United States thinks it is above the United Nations. Their action is similar."

Relations between Russia and the United States have become increasingly tense amid U.S. criticism of the Kremlin for rolling back on democracy and Moscow's complaints against U.S. plans to deploy missile defense sites in Europe close to its western borders. Moscow also frequently accuses Washington of meddling in what it considers its home turf by trying to take other ex-Soviet nations away from its orbit.

Markov said that while Putin sought to soften his remarks by avoiding a direct reference to the United States, he undoubtedly was aiming at Washington. "Only the United States now is claiming global exclusiveness," Markov said.

Shortly after his speech at the parade, Putin told veterans at a Kremlin reception that World War II showed "where militarist ambitions, ethnic intolerance and any attempts to recarve the globe are leading to."

Markov saw that as another veiled reference to the United States.

"After the Cold War ended, the United States has initiated a new arms race," fueling nuclear ambitions of many nations worldwide, he said.

"If a nation doesn't have nuclear weapons, it risks being bombed like Yugoslavia or Iraq," he said. "And if it does have nuclear weapons like North Korea, it faces no such threat."

Gleb Pavlovsky, another political analyst with close Kremlin connections, said that Putin's remarks reflected his "concern about the spreading of unilateralist approaches to global affairs."

"The United States is trying to dominate the world ... and Russia takes a stance against such hegemony," Pavlovsky said.

He added, however, that Putin was not referring exclusively to the United States when he mentioned a contempt for human life and claims at global domination, but also forces behind international terrorism and extremism.

"He was also referring to nations that support Islamic fundamentalism when he talked about claims to global exclusiveness," Pavlovsky said.

Putin's remarks reflect an increasingly assertive posture by Russia, which has regained its economic muscle thanks to a rising tide of oil revenue and sought to rebuild its military might eroded in the post-Soviet industrial demise.

Putin shocked Western leaders in February when he spoke at a security conference in Germany, bluntly accusing the United States of trying to force other nations to conform to its standards and warned that Russia would strongly retaliate to the deployment of the U.S. missile defense sites in Poland and the Czech Republic.

In a state of the nation address last month, Putin called for a Russian moratorium on observance of the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty, which limits the number of aircraft, tanks and other non-nuclear heavy weapons around the continent, saying that NATO members' refusal to ratify an amended version of the pact hurt Russia's security interests.

Putin also threatened to pull out of the treaty altogether unless talks with NATO members yielded satisfactory results, and some Russian generals warned that Moscow could also opt out of a Cold War-era treaty with the United States banning intermediate-range missiles.

Russia's military chief of staff has also said Russia could target elements of the missile defense system if it is deployed in Poland and the Czech Republic.

While Putin's speech Wednesday sounded like another salvo in a new Cold War, Markov insisted that it was merely another attempt by the Russian leader to persuade the United States to reckon with Russia's interests.

"It's an attempt to launch a serious dialogue," Markov said.

[tbweb]

Almost everyone likes Russian President Vladimir Putin but at times his remarks go a little too far, but nobodys perfect. In typical zodiac Scorpio style his hidden targeted messages are directed at the U.S. without naming it and everyone knows it, so why not just name the U.S. directly? Ex-KGB Putin should be reminded that Moscows hands are far from clean and this speech is yet another example of the Pot calling the Kettle black! A little poem might help! Tis was the night before Christmas and all through the house, not a creature was stirring not even a mouse, but wait! There is a creature stirring and a big creature too, its a big Bear and its not the cute German Knut either, its a Russian Bear and its 1979 when Moscow has just invaded Afghanistan on its 10 year long mistake of its own! No one called Moscow Nazi's back then or claimed it was seeking World domination, but maybe they were! What a short memory you have Moscow and the U.S. has only been in Iraq 5 years, not 10 like you were in Afghanistan so remember your own mistakes and history too, Moscows hands are far from clean!

[pakaal]

"Hitler thought he was above the League of Nations, and the United States thinks it is above the United Nations. Their action is similar."
What leadership, indeed.
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:00 AM : May 11, 2007

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifist for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
- Hermann Goering, at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII

I try not to think too much about a not-so-distant future in which we invaded one too many countries, and ended up with the world's military forces all pointing in our direction.

That being said, we'd probably have already started our second civil war before reaching that point, so we'd probably be too busy killing each other to be attacking other countries.

[tbweb]

Almost everyone likes Russian President Vladimir Putin but at times his remarks go a little too far, but nobodys perfect. In typical zodiac Scorpio style his hidden targeted messages are directed at the U.S. without naming it and everyone knows it, so why not just name the U.S. directly? Ex-KGB Putin should be reminded that Moscows hands are far from clean and this speech is yet another example of the Pot calling the Kettle black! A little poem might help! Tis was the night before Christmas and all through the house, not a creature was stirring not even a mouse, but wait! There is a creature stirring and a big creature too, its a big Bear and its not the cute German Knut either, its a Russian Bear and its 1979 when Moscow has just invaded Afghanistan on its 10 year long mistake of its own! No one called Moscow Nazi's back then or claimed it was seeking World domination, but maybe they were! What a short memory you have Moscow and the U.S. has only been in Iraq 5 years, not 10 like you were in Afghanistan so remember your own mistakes and history too, Moscows hands are far from clean!

[emhawks]

As much as I hate to agree with him, Putin is right in his assessment & comparisons of what the US (under the Bush/Cheney adm.) is doing in today's world. I don't like or trust Putin, but he's right.


However, as those of us who love this country know, this is not the true America. Unfortunately, it has been the America that has been "presented" to the world for the last (7)yrs.


If you read/research about the philosophy of The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), US global domination under the principles of the neoconservative philosophy is presented there. Cheney & Rumsfeld are two of the PNAC's founding members. There is alot of info. available on the Internet about the PNAC.


9/2000- PNAC Report: " Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces & Resources For a New Century"
Chapter (5)"Creating Tommorrow's Dominant Force"- an excerpt- "Further the process of transformation, even if ti brings revolutionary change, is likely to a long one, absent some catastrophic & catalyzing event- like a new Pearl Harbor."

[emhawks]

As much as I hate to agree with him, Putin is right in his assessment & comparisons of what the US (under the Bush/Cheney adm.) is doing in today's world. I don't like or trust Putin, but he's right.


However, as those of us who love this country know, this is not the true America. Unfortunately, it has been the America that has been "presented" to the world for the last (7)yrs.


If you read/research about the philosophy of The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), US global domination under the principles of the neoconservative philosophy is presented there. Cheney & Rumsfeld are two of the PNAC's founding members. There is alot of info. available on the Internet about the PNAC.


9/2000- PNAC Report: " Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces & Resources For a New Century"
Chapter (5)"Creating Tommorrow's Dominant Force"- an excerpt- "Further the process of transformation, even if ti brings revolutionary change, is likely to a long one, absent some catastrophic & catalyzing event- like a new Pearl Harbor."

[emhawks]

As much as I hate to agree with him, Putin is right in his assessment & comparisons of what the US (under the Bush/Cheney adm.) is doing in today's world. I don't like or trust Putin, but he's right.


However, as those of us who love this country know, this is not the true America. Unfortunately, it has been the America that has been "presented" to the world for the last (7)yrs.


If you read/research about the philosophy of The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), US global domination under the principles of the neoconservative philosophy is presented there. Cheney & Rumsfeld are two of the PNAC's founding members. There is alot of info. available on the Internet about the PNAC.


9/2000- PNAC Report: " Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces & Resources For a New Century"
Chapter (5)"Creating Tommorrow's Dominant Force"- an excerpt- "Further the process of transformation, even if ti brings revolutionary change, is likely to a long one, absent some catastrophic & catalyzing event- like a new Pearl Harbor."

[lastdance2]

RE :
NavyRetired2 - formrusmcsgt

Your wording : "Similarities" is too weak.

A better discriptive word would be : Identical
________________________

Several years ago, I was talking with : Research Investigators

I told them then :

"With the ideology of National Socialism (Nazi).
That Pres. Bush and his administration, is bringing this country into."

"Any criminal complaint, made against him.
Will have to come, from outside the United States - not - from within."

"He displays the same ideology.
His grandfather supported - before, through-out and after WW II"

Research :
Sen. Prescott Bush (Guardian Unlimited)
(copy and paste - google)
______________________

In 1934 :

Hitler replaced attorneys and judges.
With his own loyal party members.

Then totally ignorded, the Fundamental Laws of Germany.

Lastdance (sgt - V.N.)

[pwrslm]

Of course he is going to want to slice and dice the USA. We caught him with his hand in the cookie jar. He was helping Saddam hide the Oil for Food payoffs.

Putin is a crook. His purported similarities between the USA and the 3rd Reich omit so much information that it is only a political statement designed for no other purpose than to distract the crimes that he himself is guilty of.

Put him on trail for killing Litvinenko. Putin is no better than Lenin.

His omissions are lies.

[navyretired2]

First of all, I could give a ***** less what this moron has to say about anything! Unless he's admitting to the *** he's pulled. He's no better than any other world leader...they're all full of it and hypocrits.

However, the similarities DO exist. Fortunately, since we have a gutless congress and can't do anything about it "right now," we're not far from 2008 and at least a HOPE of better days to follow.

[formrusmcsgt]

"Hitler thought he was above the League of Nations, and the United States thinks it is above the United Nations. Their action is similar."

Isn't it great to have an administration that brings us the respect of the world?

On 9/11/01, we had the sympathy and support of virtually the entire world, and in 5 years, this administration has squandered those sentiments and brought about their replacement with fear, mistrust, and disdain.

What leadership, indeed.

[neoconrcrazy]

This shameless administration is pushing Russia more and more into a corner;

- rapid expansion of Nato to Russia doorstep
- exercise of overt influence on Ukraines election
- and most damaging: deployment of "missile shield" (new name for "star war program" on European soil
- withdrawal from NPT "leader" obligations

Putin is correct to point out that if history is our guide, the attempt of one State to dominate all others, does not bode well for world peace.

[dallison7]

This is Clinton's doing+-
Posted by SharnCedar


DAM RIGHT!!

AND THOSE DUI's BUSH GOT, THEY WERE CLINTON'S FAULT TOO!!

THIS THING WITH THE DEFICEIT... CLINTON!!

THE VALERIE PLAME THING, (CLINTON DID IT).

HOW ABOUT THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL? WE ALL KNOW CLINTON PLANNED THEM!!

AND THE LIST GOES ON!!

[agnim]

Posted by toldyouso21 at 08:12 PM : May 10, 2007

LOL
Boy, are you on a roll. LOL

[toldyouso21]

If a nation doesn't have nuclear weapons, it risks being bombed like Yugoslavia or Iraq," he said. "And if it does have nuclear weapons like North Korea, it faces no such threat.""

Bush underlined this point by making N. Korea and Iran part of the "axis of evil" and taking NK off the list and negotiating instead of threatening when they tested a nuclear weapon.
The fact is, Putin is right--we only fight the countries we think we can beat now. That would be little countries with obsolete weaponry like scud missles --countries like Grenada, Nicaraugua, and Iraq. YOu don't see us going for the others who just MIGHT be able to kick our azz. True nature of a bully--beat up the smallest you think you can get away with while pretending you really did something. How horrible and humiliating for us (and any other bully) when the little guy, turns the table and starts making our azzes look weak, bumbling and ineffective.

[lars008-2009]

NEVER FORGET THE RAPES OF BESLAN GIRLS!

Terror at Beslan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1316935651894423094

RAPES IN BESLAN: IN MUHAMMAD%u2019S FOOTSTEPS
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/News/Trifkovic04/NewsST091304.html

Forget Not the Children of Beslan
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/forget_not_the_children_of_beslan/index.html

Religion of Peace??? More like a cult of death.
http://www.terrorists-suck.org/why_suck/beslan.html

Radical Islamists must be stopped:
comments on the Beslan child slaughter.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/immigration/list.htm

[toldyouso21]

"While Putin didn't name any particular country in the speech marking the 1945 defeat of Nazi Germany, the remarks echoed his increasingly strong criticism of the perceived U.S. domination in global affairs. "

Well...Germany launched a war against what it considered evil forces out to do Germany in. Bush did the same with Iraq.

Germany passed the Nuremberg laws to justify concentration camps, torture and to attempt to give immunity for war crimes. America removed their signature from the Geneva accords, signed bills authorizing torture (or our interpretation thereof, Congress passed a bill in 2006 giving Bush immunity for war crimes and for breaking the FISA law)

Germany was prone to punishing insiders --Bush did it to Plame and Wilson

Germany set up a fake government in Vicchy, France to try to legitimize their occupation and claimed the Government was legitimate--we did it in Iraq, and gave an ultimatum--hold Democratic elections or we won't leave, then ultimately replaced the elected PM with our own boy ad he replaced his cabinet with people we liked more

Germany was shunned by the world, though they thought it best to appease them and not show it--Same for America

Germany was feared and reviled at the same time--ditto for America

Germany was perceived as the most dangerous threat in the world in 1939-1945...Same for America

Germany repeatedly lied and fudged the numbers of casualties of civilian deaths--we do too.

Maybe Putin has a point

[vet999999]

I think we are all missing the real point. These people that hate us now, have always hated us but the amount of money that the State Department was shoving in their pockets kept them quiet. Now that the State Department is not doing as much of this, they are getting vocal.

[sharncedar]

""If a nation doesn't have nuclear weapons, it risks being bombed like Yugoslavia or Iraq," he said. "And if it does have nuclear weapons like North Korea, it faces no such threat.""

This is Clinton's doing, and Joe Biden, and Hillary, and the whole cabal of militarists. They have put us all at risk. George Bush is nothing but the natural successor of the Clintons, of the Madeline Albrights and other pushers of murder as policy.

[vet999999]

My applogies for the repetative posts....they changed the behavior of the submit button and I guess I hit it too many times.

[talkingham]

While the comparison to Hitler is stretch - as is amost any comparison to Hitler - the fact is we have gotten too big for our britches and with a cowboy diplomacy strategy like we've seen the last few years it's a wonder we have friends left. Bush has manged to undo much of the good that was done by Clinton and Reagan over the last 25 years.