September 22, 2009 11:08 AM

Why '08 Will Belong To The Democrats

By
David L Miller
(National Review Online)  This column was written by Bruce Bartlett.

I hadn't planned on writing another column about Hillary Clinton, but the one I wrote last week has been so widely misunderstood that I feel compelled to do so.

To recap, I said that no Republican can win the presidency next year. If one accepts this premise, then if follows that it is in the interest of conservatives to support the most conservative Democrat running for that party's nomination. I went on to say why I think Hillary Clinton may be the most conservative Democrat.

To begin with, it is obviously not impossible for a Republican to win next year. But clearly 2008 is shaping up as a Democratic year. It will take a monumental Democratic screw-up to lose. I can think of only one instance in American history where a party had the kind of advantage the Democrats have and still lost. That was 1948, when Republican Thomas E. Dewey blew an election that should have been in the bag and lost to Democrat Harry Truman.

While conceding the possibility that I am wrong, I think it is foolish to ignore the strong Democratic trend that is indisputable. Republicans should remember that they just barely won the White House in 2000 and 2004 against very poor Democratic candidates and with the party strongly united behind George W. Bush. I just don't see that happening again next year.

The Republicans are not going to be as united, and it is almost a certainty that the Democrats will run a better campaign in 2008. I think all three of the Democrats within striking distance of the nomination will be better candidates than Al Gore or John Kerry. And because of the close losses in 2000 and 2004, the Democrats will really pull together this time.

Meanwhile, voter fatigue is going to wear heavily on the Republican nominee, who is not likely to have the same unity of party that the Democrat will have. It is obvious that there is no enthusiasm for any of the Republicans, which is why so many in the party are yearning for another candidate, such as former Sen. Fred Thompson, to jump in the race. The Republican nominee will be the last candidate still standing at the end of the day, which is not a prescription for party unity.

In any case, one need not accept my idea that the election next year is the Democrats' to lose to want to hedge one's bet. Many of the Republican Party's largest donors are already doing exactly that. BusinessWeek reports that John Mack, head of Morgan Stanley, a big Wall Street firm, is supporting Sen. Clinton. In 2004, Mack raised $200,000 for Bush's reelection. The New York Sun reports that a number of other big Bush contributors have also joined the Clinton camp.

These and other big-money people are just the leading edge of what I believe will be a steady move into the Democratic sphere in order to have some influence on the next president. This helps explain why, collectively, the Democratic candidates are raising much more money than the Republicans.

It is too easy to write off such people as opportunists who just want to be on the winning side. There is a deep undercurrent of hostility to the Republican Party among many who formerly supported its candidates. They are simply disgusted with the incompetence with which the Iraq war has been waged, the total disappearance of fiscal discipline, and what they view as the party's incessant pandering to ignorant and intolerant yahoos on issues such as immigration, gays, global warming, abortion, and stem-cell research, among others.

No doubt, a great many conservatives will say good riddance to such people. However, if the Republican Party loses everyone except religious zealots, gun nuts, anti-tax extremists, and pro-life absolutists, then it is not going to win any national elections. That's not a comment on the rightness or wrongness of the views of those I just listed — it's simple math. There just aren't enough of such people to put together a winning coalition. The price of purity is political powerlessness.

Consequently, I anticipate that more and more Republicans and even a few conservatives are going to start looking at supporting one of the Democratic candidates. I suggested that Sen. Clinton may be the most conservative Democrat now running. But others believe that Sen. Obama may be acceptable because of his deeply conservative temperament, and some point to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson's excellent record of tax-cutting.

The point is that there are better and worse Democrats from a conservative point of view. Those who prefer to go down with the sinking Republican ship may come to regret that they didn't try to exercise influence on the Democratic nomination before the nomination was sewn up.


By Bruce Bartlett
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online

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by toldyouso21 May 11, 2007 5:12 AM EDT
who is not nearly as left as he's playing the primary game) should win easily; Iraq must turn around and the Dems must put forward their most left-loving candidate for any GOP candidate to have a shot in 2008. Too bad this argument can't be had without all the usual namecalling...
Posted by fredgrad2000 at 07:34 PM : May 09, 2007

Problem is, we are watching the Republican primaries this time also. So if a candidate acts one way to get the Primary vote and tries to act more centrist to get the rest of America, they may fall short. Bush gave us enough of fake uniters and decent folk acts to last a life time. Frankly, many people just do not trust the GOP anymore--how do we know you won't continue movement toward a police state like Bush has been doing for the past 7 years? No thank you--the safest bet is no more from the Party of war mongering, self righteous, moralizing nut jobs--at least not for a few cycles anyway.
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by toldyouso21 May 11, 2007 5:08 AM EDT
If it's going to be a Democratic administration, let's not settle for mediocrity - the past eight years of that has been quite enough. Let's go for the gold: GORE/EDWARDS.

Posted by VastR-WCon at 01:53 PM : May 08, 2007


The one thing I hate about the political races--is each candidates team's propensity for smearing or bashing all opponents. Don't know much about Obama and I really do not like Clinton. But as an Independent, what I hate even more is ANY side that is so low that instead of campaigning based on merit--attempts to smear their way to victory. America has had a belly full of that from years of Republican tactics (like the black Child for McCain or how that Ford guy in TN and racism was inferred) at the end of the day--we are really tired of the ugliness, which does not stop at the primaries or even the election. Look how corrupt Bush and Co are. If you want to win, this time--get ready for a paradigm shift--tell us why YOUR candidates are the right ones instead of why everyone else is the wrong ones--otherwise, we may mistake your guys and the supporters as stealth Republicans who just happen to be masquerading as legitimate candidates. Get ready--honor, integrity and decency just might come back in vogue for 2008.
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by toldyouso21 May 11, 2007 5:01 AM EDT
Americans try no to let yourself become contaminated by these lies and hate from the mother of all hate groups the DNC and ....Posted by perception5 at 01:11 PM : May 08, 2007

I am an Independent. I control the 7 votes in my house. I hate what the GOP has done to the Iraqis, to America, to the Constitution, to the DOJ, to our moral integrity. I am against allowing torture, rendition, and granting immunity for war crimes. I believe in the Constitution. I do not agree with illegal immigration, I support the death penalty and I think every woman should have choice over her own body and what is in it--because she does have that choice anyway--whether relgious people or a law says she does or not.
At this point, and in the following years--if something drastic does not happen, I will swallow what I do not like about Democrats and vote for them anyway and so will the other 6. Why? Because above all else, I HATE totalitarian regimes, power grabs and the subversion of our government. Republicans are guilty of that. The GOP scares people and yes-they do appear to be controlling and fascists--so no vote for them in my house. Not now. Not in the next 20 years. Let them be like the locusts--only able to come out and destroy and ravage--about every 20 years or so--it takes that long for the people who remember what the GOP is really like--to die off.
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by akrk33nnn May 10, 2007 4:27 AM EDT
Vichyssoise
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by akrk33nnn May 10, 2007 4:24 AM EDT
'08 will belong to the Democrats because of Vichysoise.
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by book54552134 May 10, 2007 3:37 AM EDT
Bruce Bartlett is correct. Because of massive amounts of arrogant and bold legislative abuse, corruption, and cronyism, the election in '08 will side with the Democrats.

Hopefully, Hillary will not be the nominee. Like her husband, her political positions (other than abortion,) are not liberal & she will govern very similar to the way Bill did which will not be beneficial to the base of the Democratic Party.

Like Bill, (after Reagan/Bush I) Hillary will not seek to reverse anything accomplished by the GOP/Bush II reign of terror. Indeed, like Bill (ex. so-called welfare reform) rather than seeking to reverse corrupt and perverse legislation passed by the GOP/Dubya, she may well seek to build on many of their vile deeds.

Almost any of the other Democrats presently running would be a better choice, for the majority of people who make up the Democratic base.
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by sparks224 May 10, 2007 1:27 AM EDT
The Republicans know they will not win a fair election.

If all eligible voters are allowed to vote (if they choose), and the votes are counted in a roughly fair way, the Republicans do not stand a snowballs chance in Heck.
Everyone knows this.

We should just spot them a few points here and there. Like a handicap to even the playing field.

Maybe then they would give up on all the cheating schemes (voter suppression, electronic machine manipulation, etc.).

Party of values. Right!
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by sparks224 May 10, 2007 1:17 AM EDT
The Republicans know they won%u2019t win a fair election.

If all eligible voters are allowed to vote (if they choose), and the votes are counted in a roughly fair way, the Refuges don%u2019t stand a snowballs chance in Heck.
Everyone knows this.

Why don%u2019t we just spot them a few points here and there? Like a handicap to even the playing field.

Maybe then they would give up on all the cheating schemes (voter suppression, electronic machine manipulation, etc.).

Party of values. Right!
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by cfin5 May 10, 2007 12:09 AM EDT
It is interesting to me in these campaigns to watch who says what they will do, while remembering what they have always done. That goes for both parties as a historical fact. If my hind sight is 20/20, the democrats blew it when they did not back Wesley Clark when he ran for president. Likewise the republicans are in danger of doing the same in '08.
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by guysdigdirt May 9, 2007 11:18 PM EDT
I'm calling on all women and minorities to vote for Hillary. Now is our chance to be heard. She might just be able to save us from ourselves. We have such a strong and beautiful country it's so sad to see it deteriorating because of the misfits who are now running it.
Posted by sal567
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Talk about misfit, hillary is about as nisfit as they come!!
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