AP/ February 11, 2009, 4:55 PM

Florida Dumps Touch-Screen Voting Machines

With one large bill passed in the state Legislature, Florida tried to slam the door on a rocky electoral past and bared itself for more elections scrutiny.

Touch-screen voting machines used in 15 counties will soon be discarded for a verifiable paper-trail system, a move borne out of both the political climate and real concerns that the machines are unreliable.

And, ignoring national party threats and angering other states, Florida will likely be the fourth state to choose the presidential nominees next January.

Voters in 15 counties — comprising about 50 percent of the Florida electorate — will make that choice on touch-screen machines because there won't be enough time to make the changeover before the Jan. 29 vote. Supervisors of elections in those counties will be gearing up for the changeover to optical-scan systems while conducting the election using technology on the way out.

"For the general election it all should be in place," Gov. Charlie Crist said Saturday. He is expected to sign the bill (HB 537) in the next month or so. "Would I rather it be sooner than later? Sure I would. But I'm darn glad it's going to happen now."

Before Florida reaches what Secretary of State Kurt Browning called the "end of the line" of elections evolution — a verifiable paper trail — it has decided to brighten the national spotlight that was first cast on it in 2000, and switched back on in November in a still-disputed congressional race.

"Hopefully the presidential primary won't be a repeat of our election but if we get our investigation completed in time that will help us not only find out what happened in November but hopefully prevent it from happening in January," said David Kochman, a spokesman for Democrat Christine Jennings, who is still contesting her 369-vote defeat to Republican Vern Buchanan in District 13.

Touch-screen voting machines in Sarasota County recorded over 18,000 ballots without a selection in the congressional race. That high rate of "undervotes" — about 10 percent higher than in surrounding counties — and voter testimony of difficulty with the machines led Jennings to challenge the race. A congressional task force is now investigating if something went wrong with the machines. Browning has consistently said — while he doesn't think anything went wrong — the race inspired Crist, a Republican, to take up the rallying cry often heard from Democrats that each ballot needs a verifiable paper trail.

Buchanan's attorney, Hayden Dempsey, also believes the machines work but, like Browning, said the changeover was inspired by the political climate and a crisis of confidence.

"From a voting system standpoint it's not something that needed to be done," Dempsey said. "There's no evidence than any machine in Florida malfunctioned in the last election cycle."

The sales of touch-screen machines is "virtually dead across the U.S.," said Browning. The presidential primary in January will be their last gasp in Florida — except for the next few years when disabled voters will still have to use them.

Florida's voting challenges don't stop with the primary. Browning and elections officials said there is much to be done to comply with the requirements of the bill in time for the 2008 general election — likely to be the largest ever in the state.

"Honestly as soon as this bill passed it just kind of hit me very quickly," Browning said. "Oh my gosh, what does that mean for us? It's a huge task to get ready for the (2008) election."

During testimony leading up to the bill's passage, supervisors of elections told lawmakers to keep in mind all the changes that will have to be made when 2008 rolls around. They wanted to make sure that in the quest to reform elections in Florida, lawmakers wouldn't do too much too fast — and end up setting the state up for more controversy in 2008.

Supervisors are particularly concerned about implementing ballot-on-demand technology, which enables polling places to produce paper ballots when they are requested, said Ron Labasky, general counsel for the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections. The touch-screen machines have been useful for early voting because they can produce a number of different ballot styles. And ballot-on-demand has never been used other than for absentee ballots.

"There's a tremendous amount to be done," said Ron Labasky, general counsel for the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections. "It's going to be a learning experience for us as well as the public."
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randalds says:
Ok, the supreme court got into it after how Many recounts?

These displaced Yankees (NY'ers...etc who retire and move to Florida)can't read and figure out a ballot? Please!

Al Gore have class, yeah, he got it right after he invented the internet.

Just like the Watergate fiasco, the american people got tired. SICK AND TIRED, of all the "chads", pregnant chads, hanging chads, leaning chads, dimpled chads...etc.
So someone tries to correct the problem that a bunch of people had with the ballots and brings in an electronic solution. Now that is no good. What next?
I know, put all the hopefuls in a room lock the door, have them fight it out, and the only one emerging will be president.
Posted by Klingon69 at 02:16 PM : May 07, 2007

None of the recounts had finished yet.

Reading the tiny ballots is confusing to many of the elderly (you'll find that out someday).

The myth that Gore claimed to have invented the Internet is just that, a myth. He never said it, though it has become a right wing urban legend. The plain and simple truth is that it's a lie that's been told and retold, but that still doesn't make it true.
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michellem99-2009 says:
I never felt it right that the press oaught eresed forever the truth,to sanitise the news. We have the right to a free press not a sanitised press.
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klingon69 says:
IT is sad our history books are full of lies and most eresed forever. To sanitise more like it.
Posted by MichelleM99 at 07:19 PM : May 06, 2007

Yes, unfortunately, the liberals got ahold of our history books. I still have many of my books from the 70s and a couple from the 50s, amazing how much is changed in the name of being politically correct.
And while I am on the subject, why do we have to be PC???
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klingon69 says:
Illegal suppression of the black vote was the main reason Gore "lost" in Florida. That plus the ballots that had many many Jewish people waking up to the surprise that they had actually voted for the racist Pat Buchanan, when they honestly intended to vote for Gore. Lot's and lots of dirty tricks help push Bush into the win column, but the biggest reason of all that he won was because of the US Supreme Court and the class of Al Gore not to fight the obvious fix after their ruling.
Posted by RandalDS at 12:23 AM : May 06, 2007

Ok, the supreme court got into it after how Many recounts?

These displaced Yankees (NY'ers...etc who retire and move to Florida)can't read and figure out a ballot? Please!

Al Gore have class, yeah, he got it right after he invented the internet.

Just like the Watergate fiasco, the american people got tired. SICK AND TIRED, of all the "chads", pregnant chads, hanging chads, leaning chads, dimpled chads...etc.
So someone tries to correct the problem that a bunch of people had with the ballots and brings in an electronic solution. Now that is no good. What next?
I know, put all the hopefuls in a room lock the door, have them fight it out, and the only one emerging will be president.
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gunownerdan says:
If only the whole country can stop using those electronic fraud machines.
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mommajomma-2009 says:
my all time favorite bumper sticker... on a florida car...... in 2001.... "honk if you voted for al gore(press the round thing in the middle of your steering wheel)."
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michellem99-2009 says:
The WTO in Seattle in 99. I saw the TV coverage both local and national. I got my computer in 06. We stayed home when all that happened. It was a mess.Seattle most likely don't have the names of the riotors. They did damages.I saw some of the damage after it was over when we walked about. I don't understand the mindset of people who do stuff like that. It hurt them in the long run. IT is sad our history books are full of lies and most eresed forever. To sanitise more like it.
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trueprogress says:
During the LA Riots of 1992 ( 15 years ago) 54 innocent people were dragged from their cars - smashed windows with baseball bats and crow bars, and then slaughtered with knives, guns or had their heads bashed in by the rioters. Some were protecting their homes from rapists, some their business. None have been remembered, and you can't even find their names on the LA Times Web site, as that part of the story line is not PC, and ERASED from history.

Try to find their names. You can't. That is why Americans do not trust the Press. Shame on you !!
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michellem99-2009 says:
I know for fact here every computer has its own ID/name what have you. May be a postee can shed some light on this.I will tell ya to have a firewall etc. No I don't trust every thing. I have often felt the voting machines been rigged to favour their man/woman runing. I don't care for the R party. I did not vote for Bush. Time to clean house. I feel very strongly to this war is over oil and maybe power. Sorry here ladies and gentlemen to me he is Mr. Bush as he did not win the office in the right manner. Most know that. I hope the next person can be address Mr/Madam Pres [their name]. The pres should get out of the middle east and bring our boys and girls home. I am in my 50s.I am not happy he won't lisnen to congress . Another Nam.
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hazelknows says:
good post toldyouso21

but like the web sites address, we all wish were was one less W.
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