WASHINGTON, April 29, 2007
Rice: Bush Will Not Give In On Iraq Bill
Secretary Of State Says U.S. Officials Already Have Their Plan For Iraq
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Rice's comments cast fresh doubt on a potential compromise between the Democratic-led Congress and the White House in getting money to U.S. troops.
Also, with a regional conference on Iraq set to begin Thursday in Egypt, Rice raised the possibility of a rare direct encounter between high-level U.S. and Iranian officials. Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki is expected to lead his country's delegation.
"I would not rule it out," Rice told Bob Schieffer. "We will be there not to talk about U.S.-Iranian issues, but to talk about Iraq, and how Iraq's neighbors can help to stabilize Iraq, and I won't rule it out."
In Washington this week, Bush plans to veto a $124.2 billion war spending bill that includes a timeline for withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq. In a second version, Democratic leaders may scrap the timetable but work with Republican lawmakers on benchmarks: ordering the Iraqi government to fulfill promises on allocating oil resources, amending its constitution and expanding democratic participation.
Rice said the president would not agree to a plan that penalizes Baghdad if the Iraqi government fall shorts. To do so, she said, would restrain the abilities of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, and Ryan Crocker, the new U.S. ambassador to Iraq.
"Why tie our own hands in using the means that we have to help get the right outcomes in Iraq?" Rice said. "That's the problem with having so-called consequences for missing the benchmarks."
Rice said that the Iraqi government is not moving forward fast enough, but "General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker have a plan and a way forward."
Benchmarks have emerged as a possible rallying point as U.S. leaders seek to show they are holding the Iraq government accountable. But establishing goals without consequences may seem pointless to many Democratic lawmakers, who want an aggressive change in policy.
"The benchmarks — the Iraqis agreed to it, the president agreed it," said Democratic Rep. John Murtha, who also appeared on Face The Nation. "We're saying to them, well, let's put some teeth into the benchmarks."
Rice said it makes sense to give Iraq's leaders time to meet the goals they have set. She said Bush has made clear to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that people in the United States have limited patience.
In their push to link U.S. money or troop support to Iraqi performance, however, Democrats must negotiate with Republicans. On their own, Democratic lawmakers do not have the votes to override Bush's veto.
Bush is expected the veto the existing war bill by Tuesday, then meet Wednesday with congressional leaders on the next steps.
"If he vetoes this bill, he's cut off the money, but obviously, we're going to pass another bill," Murtha said. "I'd like to see two months ... Fund it for two months instead of a year. And then look at it again."
Meanwhile, Rice said will not appear in person before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to answer questions about the Bush administration's prewar intelligence. Rice said she already has addressed claims that Iraq had sought uranium from the African nation of Niger.
The committee voted 21-10 last week to issue a subpoena to compel her testimony.
Asked about the possibility of being held in contempt by the committee chairman, Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman, Rice said, "That's the chairman's prerogative. I respect the oversight — the oversight responsibilities of Congress — but I frankly think this one has been looked at and looked at and looked at."
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See all 241 CommentsThis administration is determined to stay the course in Iraq! How else to describe no benchmarks for judging the progress of the Iraq government and its people!
The polls have shown that both the Iraq people and the american people want the US to pull out. Interesting that Cheney has that much authority that he can persuade the President to continue on this stay the course path!
Perhaps martial law is next? This administration is maintained through power. Let's pray that the transition to the next government administration in 2008 is peaceful!
So now the administration wants to get it right and allow the nurturing of a successful Iraqi policy through time and military means without measuring progress for fear of "punishing" the curremt Iraqi government.
The murders at Virginia Tech were the work of a madman, just as are the killings in Iraq.
I pray for REVOLUTION. Bloody, healthy REVOLUTION.
The American Elite and AIPAC/ISRAEL RULE America.
FREE AMERICA FROM THIS FASCIST REGIME!!!
RICE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF GW'S PALS - doesn't answer questions BECAUSE THESE PALS NEVER MADE ANY PLANS or FOLLOWED ANY WARNINGS PERTAINING TO IRAQ! SORRY FOR THE IRAQI FAMILIES THAT HAVE SO MANY DEAD, MAIMED AS A 5-WEEK OLD WITH EYE BLOWN OUT, LAND "MINED" BY U.S. SO THAT EVERY STEP IS A "THREAT" - God & Allah, help these PEOPLE - GW Bush is TOO NAIVE TO REALIZE WHAT HE HAS DONE!
The only thing rice is not saying is that their hands have been UNTIED for four years now he wants a free rein for two more years. Presidents ho to the rescue. Iraq will not stand up until they know that we will not be there.
"Why tie our own hands in using the means that we have to help get the right outcomes in Iraq?" Rice said. "That's the problem with having so-called consequences for missing the benchmarks."
THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!
You know the old man is lamenting that they did not push for the smart, competent one (Jeb) instead of the retarded, substandard IQ, twerp that they laid on us.
So, Condi if his own father no longer takes this demented clown seriously, why should anyone else?
Rice said it makes sense to give Iraq's leaders time to meet the goals they have set. She said Bush has made clear to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that people in the United States have limited patience.
What good is a goal that does not have a specific time to be accomplished? If I assign a individual a task to be performed and do not allocate a specific amount of time for the task what is going to be accomplished? Might as well send the ex wife(not a congenial divorce) into the mall with my credit card with no spending limits.
Unfortunatly another 600,000 troops coundn't bring safety & democracy to Iraq -- It's 4 years too late
- How about one who actually supports our troops instead of playing politics with them ????? -
- How about one who recoginizes his failures & dishonor he caused our nation ????
I also believe that Bush has no concept of how to end the violence.... His resent response was an artilliary attack.... On populated areas.
Sure Rick, things are getting better and better.
Updated: 4:31 p.m. PT Sept 26, 2006
WASHINGTON - The war in Iraq has become a %u201Ccause cilhbre%u201D for Islamic extremists, breeding deep resentment of the U.S. that probably will get worse before it gets better, federal intelligence analysts conclude in a report at odds with President Bush%u2019s contention of a world growing safer.
In the bleak report, declassified and released Tuesday on Bush%u2019s orders, the nation%u2019s most veteran analysts conclude that despite serious damage to the leadership of al-Qaida, the threat from Islamic extremists has spread both in numbers and in geographic reach.
- The UAE King says Bush is wrong, his occupation of Iraq is illegle..
.. Our Generals say Bush is wrong & even General Petreaus has doubts any surge will work.
Oh, GOODY!!! A NEW PLAN!!! How many times are we going to hear about the "NEW PLAN" from the NEOCONS?
Either way the outcome is not going to be beneficial to the US.
, Just who did Bush pull off the battle field to exploit in the media for a week ??? General Petreaus, the man running the war -- It's not his job to convence America or congress,,, It's Bush's job.... What happened to his War Czar ??
Bush/Cheny open thier yaps every time they speak "Democrats this, democrats that" "Democrats will cause an attack, democrats will surrender" ---- You say that's not playing politics with our troops ????????????
---- America voted for a new direction,,, Our troops want to fight in a country that needs them, with achievable missions, training & funding Bush won't give them.
---- Bush has only increased terrorism in the world, ask England & other nations -- In America terrrorist threats are up 16% from last year alone.
Iranian Jews say they live in relative freedom in the Islamic Republic, remain loyal to the land of their birth, and are striving to separate politics from religion.
They caution against comparing Iran's official and visceral opposition to the creation of Israel and Zionism with the regime's acceptance of Jews and Judaism itself.
Here's what I think will happen if we pull out of Iraq tomorrow.
Utter chaos. But not very many more people will die tomorrow than died today. Many will leave the country because of fear. Many will come into the country to exploit it. Within a few months, the dust will settle.
Then the rest of the world can look around and decide what to do, if anything.
Probably there will be more than a few Iraqis who will wish they would have defended their new government with every thing they had, they didn't.
Maybe the United Nations will decide to get involved.
Maybe we will be asked. Maybe there will be an incentive this time. We sure could use some oil.
IRAQ HAS NOT HAD A DEMOCRACY AT ANY TIME & THEY STILL DON'T --------
DEMOCRACY THERE IS A FAILURE,, THERE IS NO MILITARY SOLUTION & OUR TROOPS ARE NEEDED ELSEWHERE
Scenario (2) We pull our troops out and the Iraqis reconcile their differences and are grateful to the US.
Scenario (3) We remain in Iraq with no time constraits placed upon the Iraqi goverment.Violence goes unabbetted, more soldiers lose their lives and more Iraqis.
Scenario (4) We remain in Iraq and the government of Iraq restores order and peace.
Scenario (5) We remain in Iraq and the government is unable to restore order for 5 years meanwhile death tolls mount civilian and military.
Scenario (6) A leader similiar to Saddam in rule emerges and takes control of Iraq.
Which scenario will be the final outcome?
WIDOW LADY
Posted by a8m3h
To obtain 20 years worth of oil? Hopefully before then we have learned the lessons of the last 30 years and created alternative fuels.
Why waste time responding to this moronic nut job? It is obvious that he is prodigy of the shallow end of the gene pool (see movie "Deliverance"). He has a deep seated psych disorder as born out by his irrational paranoi of anything Muslim/Islam.
It is obvious that he takes Jewish mythology/fairy tales seriously. (Another sign of delusional psychosis.)
Let the boy put his cape on and clutch his GI Joe as he runs around the family room screaming "Die, Muslims Die!"
By responding to this fool, you are only keeping him away from his milk and cookies and sleepy nap time.
One of its stated objectives is, quite explicitly, to destroy us. At a large %u201CWorld Without Zionism%u201D conference recently in Tehran President Ahmadinejad stated that %u201Ca world without Zionism and America . . . . surely can be achieved.%u201D President Ahmadinejad%u2019s expressed view is that it is his mission to help bring about, by mass killings, conditions for the return of the Mahdi and thereafter the end of the world. The chief of strategy for Ahmadinejad, Hassan Abbassi, has said: %u201CWe have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization . . . we must make use of everything we have at hand to strike at this front by means of our suicide operations or means of our missiles. There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them. . . . Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover.%u201D
http://judiciary.senate.gov/testimony.cfm?id=1770&wit_id=5227
Such a nice man like Augusta Krieves.
wHO WANTS TO JOIN THE CONTEST???? WHAT WILL THE NEW OR NEXT NAME BE FOR OUR COUNTRY?
UNITED ? WHAT? HANDOUT COUNTRY...STUPIDS, INC..
GREAT BEANS,NO LIMITS (to anything)COUNTRY...
COME-ON YOU SMARTIES, GIVE US A FEW.. SOME CAN'T BE PUBLISHED, YOU KNOW... lol
WIDOW LADY
Your appeal is from only a small group, many or our troops want results..... Yes Bush did cut training & equipment repair & replacement, No he didn't ask Congress.
... Yes Bush did cut training & equipment repair & replacement, No he didn't ask Congress. He did it before the GOP lost control..
.. They have the right to petition, but not in uninform... They do not represent the majority of our troops,, just as you don't represent the rest of America.... Do I call them liars ???? NO - that's a GOP Swiftboat campaign that does that & your White House.
STOP PLAYING POLITICS & IDEAOLOGY WITH OUR TROOPS,, THEY NEED REAL SUPPORT - NOT GOP RHETORIC
Once again the post-veto meeting appears to be a complete repeat of the pre-authorization vote meeting. The President wants to talk but there are no negotiable items. They might have well repeated the "send me a clean bill" chant. We cannot afford for our leaders to be so close minded that "my way or the highway" is their only statement.
Once again the post-veto meeting appears to be a complete repeat of the pre-authorization vote meeting. The President wants to talk but there are no negotiable items. They might have well repeated the "send me a clean bill" chant. We cannot afford for our leaders to be so close minded that "my way or the highway" is their only statement.
Teenagers, get ready for your tour of murdering Iraqis for Global Energy Domination by the people who own Pres. George W. (Bonzo) Bushit and his direct supervisor, Chickenshithawk Cheney. Learn to serve the new masters of totalitarian America. War is peace. Slavery is Freedom. Bushit is President.
CHECK ON IT -- YOUR DISHONORABLE & INCOMPETENT BUSH REPUBLICANS HAVE LOYALTIES ONLY TO BUSH & NOT OUR TROOPS OR AMERICAN VOTERS
From the time period when the current congress started debating the funding of the Iraq war until now how many more congress persons has sign onto this bill?
It can't be because of "pork" since Bush has only vetoed one bill since becoming president. And, that was related to stem cell research, not pork.
Dr. Condo "Chevron Oil Tanker" Rice claiming 9/11/01 has been "investigated" is disingenuous. The GOP led dog and pony show "investigations" were not "investigations," they were coverups.
Hopefully, the Democrats will find the backbone to actually investigate all those involved in the planning and execution of the illegal invasion of Iraq.
Which would implicate Ms. "Chevron Oil Tanker" Rice in the conspiracy and coverup. And, the entire Bush administration.
As are the courts.
It is called "oversight" and is part of the system we used to call "checks and balances" before the GOP mafia gained control of the government and mainstream media.
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