Senate Passes Iraq Withdrawal Bill

Legislation Requiring Troop Pullouts Beginning In October Passes 51-46

(CBS/AP)  In a bold wartime challenge to President Bush, the Democratic-controlled Congress cleared legislation Thursday to begin withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by Oct. 1 with a goal of a complete pullout six months later. The White House dismissed the legislation as "dead before arrival."

The 51-46 Senate vote was largely along party lines, and like the House passage a day earlier it underscored that the war's congressional opponents are far short of the two-thirds majority needed to override a Bush veto.

Democrats marked Thursday's final passage with a news conference during which they repeatedly urged Bush to reconsider his veto threat. “This bill for the first time gives the president of the United States an exit strategy” from Iraq, said Rep. David Obey of Wisconsin.

The legislation is "in keeping with what the American people want," added Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

The White House was unmoved. "The president's determined to win in Iraq. I think the bill that they sent us today is mission defeated," said deputy press secretary Dana Perino. "This bill is dead before arrival."

Given that standoff, Republicans and Democrats alike already were maneuvering for position on a follow-up bill.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell dismissed the just-passed legislation as "political posturin" by Democrats that deserves the veto it will receive. "The solution is simple: Take out the surrender date, take out the pork and get the funds to our troops," he said.

The bill would provide $124.2 billion, more than $90 billion of which would go for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The bill also specifies that before combat units are deployed, the president would have to certify to Congress that they're "fully mission capable," and then wait 15 days. In addition, deployments are limited to one year, reports CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

Democrats added billions more for domestic programs, and while most of the debate focused on the troop withdrawal issue, some of the extra spending also has drawn Bush's criticism.

The day's developments amounted to a landmark of sorts.

The vote occurred nearly four years after Bush stood on the deck of an aircraft carrier before a banner that read “Mission Accomplished” — and 113 days after Democrats took power in Congress and vowed to change course in a war that has cost the lives of more than 3,300 U.S. troops.

During Vietnam, a longer and far deadlier war for U.S. forces, Congress went years before it was able to agree on legislation significantly challenging presidential war policy.

In the current case, any veto override attempt would occur in the House, and even Democrats concede they lack the votes to prevail.

With House Speaker Nancy Pelosi at his side, Reid said Democrats hoped to have a follow-up war-funding bill ready for the president's signature by June 1. Despite administration claims to the contrary, he said that was soon enough to prevent serious disruption in military operations.

Several Democratic officials have said they expect the next measure will jettison the withdrawal timetable, a concession to Bush. At the same time, they say they hope to include standards for the Iraqi government to meet on issues such as expanding democratic participation and allocating oil resources.

Bush and congressional Republicans, eager to signal the public that they do not support an open-ended commitment to Iraq, have both embraced these so-called benchmarks. Unlike Democrats, they generally oppose using benchmarks to require specific actions, such as troop withdrawals.

[skyk-2009]

It's sad to see this nation yet again ripping itself apart because some IDIOT decided to tell yet another nation how to run it's business. These people have a RIGHT as people on this planet to settle their OWN differences. We need to make sure they have that chance by making sure they are not attacked from without. The problem now is the same one that intelligent people tried to tell the Southern Fascist who happened to be President at the time. There's a very good chance a Radical Religious Leader could come out to be the one in charge. Maybe some can't handle the obvious but NOTHING we can do will stop that now. We are totally discredited and are without any support amoung the People. Our leaders painted a rosey picture of this mess for way to long. Stay the Course was a stupid move then and it's even worse now. You notice that people like McCain and others say that what is being done is surrender... no folks surrender is what Nixon did in Vietnam. Surrender is when you have been so completely defeated in the fight for Hearts and Minds that the only thing left to do is LEAVE...they sure as HELL aren't! They LIVE there.

[red1530]

It is a sad day when the Congress tells the enemy when we are leaving Iraq. I think it is the first time in history that a nation tole its enemy when it is leaving an area. This bill doesn't pass the test of common sense.

[nativewoman]

Congress has passed legislation supported by the electorate?

No wonder Bush is threatening to veto. This is certainly no way to run a monarchy!

Why who do we the people think we are?

[mcvet]

Any of you folks who want to know just how bad this whole thing has become, just go to your local Library and get back issues of the papers. Start down the long and almost endless list of "Objectives" in Iraq. ALL the lies we've been told will could jumping out at you then. All the massive abuse of power will stare you right in the face. We have totally can completely given up the enormous advantage we had when attacked, to the point that MOST of the planet thinks we had it coming now. That's right folks, Bush is so hated by the people of this planet and he has been such a bully that they wouldn't help us now no matter what happened. This nation that was ONCE the voice of Freedom all around the world, the Naiton that carried the title of LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD is now looked upon as a Government simular in so many ways to that of NAZI GERMANY in 1936. These are facts and when you're confronting TERRORISM, that is NOT a good position to be in. NOT at all.

[mcvet]

It is a sad day when the Congress tells the enemy when we are leaving Iraq. I think it is the first time in history that a nation tole its enemy when it is leaving an area. This bill doesn't pass the test of common sense.
Posted by Red1530 at 08:25 AM : Apr 26, 2007
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WHO IS THE ENEMY? I keep asking you Fascist this and I never get an answer. The PEOPLE who attacked this Nation ARE NOT in IRAQ! I know you Fascist are simple minded, you have to be, but for GOD's Sake you have to have a LITTLE intelligence!! The PEOPLE who attacked us are NOT in Iraq and since they are NOT what are we doing there? I think, amoung all the lies we were told, the goal was to create a DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT that would be an ally in fighting the "ENEMY". Nice goal but the REAL ENEMY has completely rebuilt itself and has rebuilt those that protected them to the point that they are stronger than when they attacked us. Don't you simple minded MORONS think it's time we got back to the business of THIS nation and let the folks of IRAQ settle theirs? Sieg Heil Dumb as a box of Rocks!!

[abbe7]

There are several ways to support the troops

(1) Bring them back home, take proper care of the wounded and of the families of the victims.
(2) Leave them there without proper equipment, save money on wounded (Walter Reed ...) and families to send even more canon meat over there and fill some
wallets at Halliburton.

We already know Bush choose way no 2 and that's why he will veto the bill.

[starleo146]

I just wonder did anyone see Bill Moyer's show how we got into this war and how the administration actually manuevered it all and how the press never once investigated anything and the one's that did decent in any way lost there jobs. If you had one decenter on any show you had to have 2 aligned with the admiistratin that could debate against that one decenter. I think I said a long time ago the press is very much responsible here too much tabloid too many 30 second news blasts no investigating anything so this vote yesterday again put fear into our lives instead of the truth and I am ashamed of the news today they helped to get us where we are today along with Bush's administration

[the74blaster]

The solution here is real simple.

The mandate of the people is to bring our troops home and end this military adventure that has no clear goal or end in sight. We left Vietnam under similiar circumstances so its not like its the first time.

If Bush dares to veto the bill, then maybe its time for congress to begin impeachment proceedings and remove King George from office.

[superpatr898]

Ahhhh, McVet aka Vet71, aka McLoser, aka AnalRetentiveVET,

Have you and your fellow heroes like AntiUS Advisor, Bluestarbigot, Exlax, RandyBO, and your friends Kerry, Murtha, McDermott, Hagel, and Webb gone and liberated Saigon yet?

Ahhhh, no. Too busy sitting on the toilet. Or is it that you need a General to lead you? Well, kool-aid kiddies and bozo nazis - you've got two. They have plenty of (in)experience, and they claim to support the troops - that's presumably you, of course.

Their names are Prune Face Reid and Botox Ho Nan. I am quite sure they'll lead you to victory. Maybe an Islamonazi one, but after all, you don't care, do you.

Hope Franklystupid is reading this too - oh, he can't read. Or elese he'd know about the ties between Al Qaeda and the Sh'ite terror groups; about how loose the house arrest of Bin Laden's son in Tehran is; and quite possibly where those WMDs ended up. But then again, you losers and your MoveOn.Org Blame America bait the Joozs and Christian friends can't comprehend a thing.

Be glad you live in a country that tolerates traitors. Including ones who still spit on uniforms - like your friends whom you s*ck up to, losers.

[bluestardad]

TRUTH AND FACTS ARE HARD TO SWALLOW! If you cant get them down try using them as a suppository! SURRENDER THIS SPHINCTER LIPS!
What about Mr. Bush? How he and Condi Rice blew off the Intelligence briefing in August 2001 titled Bin Laden Planning attacks inside the United States Using Passenger Aircraft, as having no actionable intelligence. How he has never addressed the support of our enemies by the Saudi Arabian friends of his! Or that he squandered the good will of the world by starting a War in Iraq outside American National Interest on a Lie because Israeli Neocons wanted Iraq brought down. How Mr. Bush has stamped on civil liberties in the country and the justice department and FBI are tools for the Administration to attack its political enemies. How he has diverted funds from Afghanistan and the hunt for bin laden to Iraq 363 tons of money and 400 billion tax dollars, that did not attack us on 911 and are funding Sunni Al Qaeda in Lebanon to counter Shiite Hamas against Israel. He has cut programs that strengthen the Military and supported the troops in the United States and Veterans affairs realms.

Elected officials who support the war in Iraq are under the influence of AIPAC.

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm


Contact Congress http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/


House Speakers email
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[book54552134]

The House is correct in it's attempts to deliver this message to our Dictator in Chief that the American people are fed up with his unjustified war.
However, because Congress is still split 50/50, even Democrats who are advancing this bill know that it will not advance beyond the Senate.

Between the Senate filibuster & Dubya's veto power, Democrats are still very limited in what they will be allowed to accomplish. It is the price the nation must pay for letting the political situation in this country get so far out of whack.

Because the political situation has gotten so far out of whack, it will require 4 - 6 years for voters to effect real change in govenment. For those who are fed up with the agenda of the Extremist Right, they must wait at least another 1 1/2 years to effect significant change.

[abbe7]

I wonder ... technically speaking, can a president veto a bill, then change his mind and sign it ?
In that case, no further bill is needed.

[stangdriver4]

Its good that the democrats set a timetable for withdraw before this turns into another vietnam, hate to tell you but you cant invade a country and expect to always win..it shouldnt of happened to begin with, iraq had no nuclear weapons or even the know-how to create them. The Iraq war is by far probably the biggest mistake of the past 300 years.

[superpatr898]

If Bush was such a dictator, or a Fascist (like you Left Nazi idiots are)you'd be rotting in jail or facing a firing squad.

That's the difference between those of us who truly love freedom, appreciate our troops, and are knowledgeable about the security needs of our country - and you who don't care, who hate, who spew, who lie - and applaud traitors.

Many who served in 'Nam (unlike a couple of the brain dead bozos here) remember with shame the scores of desperate Vietnamese and Cambodians trampling over each other after the DEMORATIC congress denied aid as Giaps Panzers roared south. The people who tried to board the helicopters and ships.

Well, those same Demorats, who have been soft on security since 1972 want to see the same thing now. After all, they gave us handwringer coward and bigot Carter, who betrayed the Shah (never mind his shipments of advanced weapons to the Saudis), and Cliton too busy with the girls and bombing innocent Serbs to do anything about Bin Laden (but do blame Bush, right, bozos?)

Unfortunately this time around it just won't be the Iraquis who suffer - it will be America and the West too. Al Qaeda plays for keeps. But don't tell General Reid or Ho Pelo that. The traitors don't want to know. And neither do a lot of you.

[abbe7]

"They have plenty of (in)experience, and they claim to support the troops"

The kind of military (in)experience Bush and draft-dodger Cheney have ?

"Be glad you live in a country that tolerates traitors."

President and Vice-President again. Don't worry, they'll be impeached when the time comes.

[bluestardad]

HEY HERE ARE THE SELL OUT AMERICA CROWD SENATORS FROM MILITARY STATES! THEY CHOOSE TO SELL THE LIVES OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS FOR ISRAELI INTEREST IN IRAQ!

The two from Senators Carolinas are where the 82nd Airborne are. This idiot from Kentucky is where the 101st Airborne is located. All these Senators are the most ardent supports of this surge and the continued deployment of American troops to Iraq! They have supported everything Bush has done to date! They are also up for Reelection. Write them and let them know what you think!


McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Class II
361-A RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: mcconnell.senate.gov/contact_form.cfm

Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Class II
555 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: dole.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactInformation.C...



Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Class II
290 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contact

[abbe7]

"That's the difference between those of us who truly love freedom, appreciate our troops, and are knowledgeable about the security needs of our country -" ... and can come up with very bright ideas like let Dubai operate US ports.

[superpatr898]

Thanks, Didn'tinhale...

The bozos and brain deads refuse to get it. They're too busy licking off the old spit on their uniforms from their Democratic friends - they probably call it champipple - lol.

As for Abbe, my dear - I'm sure Ho Pelo will have a job for you too - walking the streets of Sadr City...alongside Draft Dodger Cliton. Not sure who would be worse though - the pervert next to you, or your friends ready to blow what is left of your brains out.

Don't forget to go and cry to your w***ore Pelosi - or Field Marshal Reid.

[abbe7]

"As for Abbe, my dear - I'm sure Ho Pelo will have a job for you too - walking the streets of Sadr City...alongside Draft Dodger Cliton. Not sure who would be worse though - the pervert next to you, or your friends ready to blow what is left of your brains out."

I'd rather go to Bagdhad ... Your friend Freedom fry McCain said it was perfectly safe. You know what ? I'll let you go first.

[mbcsmith]

I would like to ask those who support troop withdrawl to give us their view of what Iraq will look like after the withdrawl.

[superpatr898]

Bluestarbigot is at it again.

Our little cheerleader for Hamas, Hizbullah and Al Qaeda is baiting dem Joozs again. A coward won't blame those truly responsible.

Like a Cliton who after playing with the girls sends B-52s, NOT to bomb terrorist sites in Afghanistan, but innocent Serbs in Belgrade.

A Cliton who refused the appeals of John McNeill, murdered on 9/11, to "take out" Bin Laden right after the Cole bombing, because Yasser Arafat wouldn't like it. Neither, presumably would Bluestarbigot.

Or the votes over the years by Kerry, Biden, Murtha, Ho Pelosi, Reid and so many others to deny new weapons for the troops, to improving our Intelligence capabilities.

Or the cowardice and bigotry of Jimmy Carter; his ties to Saudi Oil (get that, Halliburtonites?) while he betrayed the Shah.

No, Bluestarbigot and the other Democratic Traitors have betrayed the military and endangered America's security since 1972. They will indeed be found wanting - and out very soon, but hopefully before they cause more damage to this country.

Remember - that stack of bombs raining down on Belgrade could have demolished an Al Qaeda camp with Bin Laden present. The Dems chose cowardice and treason instead.

[abbe7]

"I would like to ask those who support troop withdrawl to give us their view of what Iraq will look like after the withdrawl.
Posted by mbcsmith at 09:03 AM : Apr 26, 2007"

Like a country regaining control over its oil ...
Avoiding this is the ONLY reason for troops to stay and will not benefit to the people, just to corporate America. The poor die, the rich make money.

[killtheliars]

I keep hearing Republicans and conservative talking heads saying that troop withdrawl is not what the american people want. That makes me wonder how stupid they think we really are. Most of the democrats did talk about ending the war and withdrawling the troops. The majority of Americans agreed and therefore the Dems took over the House and Senate. THe majority is supposed to get their way in a democracy, so Bush needs to stop whining and do what he is told. He works for us after all.

[abbe7]

"THe majority is supposed to get their way in a democracy, so Bush needs to stop whining and do what he is told. He works for us after all.
Posted by killtheliars at 09:10 AM : Apr 26, 2007"

Yes, that's the only thing we hear ... red, red whine, from "close to asphyxia" and co.

[omega39-2009]

These cowards and traitors on the Democratic side of the Isle will be judged Politically for this next year.

The political rein of Hanoi Nancy and Filthy Harry will be short lived.
Posted by didntinhale

Yes, this seems to be going real well for Republicans

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 12-15, 2007. N=1,141 adults nationwide. MoE 1 3. Fieldwork by TNS.
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"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Democrats in Congress are doing their job?"
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Approve 54%
Disapprove 44%
Unsure 2%

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are doing their job?"
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Approve 39%
Disapprove 59%
Unsure 2%


Dare I say it....."Mandate".

[processor2]

If the Democrats would take out the "surrender date", this would be a good bill.

...

[bluestardad]

AIPAC and PNAC are the Weekly Standard Support Israeli Groups and are Neocon Chicken Hawks who gladly sell American Lives for the Interest of Israel!

The American Enterprise Institute came up with this Surge Plan Not American Generals!

Contact Information Reuel Marc Gerecht
American Enterprise Institute
1150 Seventeenth Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036
Assistant: 202-862-5926
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

Here are Senators from Military states that support Everything Bush has done to keep our troops in this Civil War in Iraq! 101st Airborne in Kentucky and 82nd Airborne In North Carolina! Write them let them know they work for America not Israeli Government!

McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Class II
361-A RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: mcconnell.senate.gov/contact_form.cfm

nDole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Class II
555 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: dole.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Con
tactInformation.C...

Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Class II
290 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contac
t

It is not anti Semitic to believe there are millions of other good people in the Middle East with valid concerns!

READ AS THEY BRAG ABOUT THEIR INFLUENCE ON OUR GOVERNMENT!
http://www.aipac.org/forms/
join_aipacClubs.htm

contact congress
http://www.visi.com/juan/congr
ess/

[superpatr898]

Time to show the Dems the way - the American way, not the Islamonazi way.

When an ageing not-so-high class call girl runs to Damascus to "service" the son of the killer of US Marines and the guy truly responsible for Lockerbie - and when that boy she's in love with sends killers across the border into Iraq to capitalize on what his daddy did - its time to pull the plug on traitors.

When a Prune Face Harry who'd gladly vote for Slavery, for terms with the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, tells the American people he is a greater military expert than our Generals are, its time to pull the plug on this guy who never served a day in the Armed Forces (but don't tell Randy BO, Anti-US Advisor, Bluestarbigot (in the midst of his Hitlerian rant), or McVeigh, oops, McVet that. They're too busy having their colons checked - or was that what was left of their brains.

DEMS - TRAITORS - ALL THE TIME.

[abbe7]

"Yes and just a few short years Ago Bush had a 70% approval rating amazing how fast the political winds can change especially among the SHEEPLE
Posted by didntinhale at 09:24 AM : Apr 26, 2007"

There might be some reasons for that ...

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."%u2014Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

The problem is ... he meant it.

[abbe7]

There are several ways to support the troops

(1) Bring them back home, take proper care of the wounded and of the families of the victims.
(2) Leave them there without proper equipment, save money on wounded (Walter Reed ...) and families to send even more canon meat over there and fill some
wallets at Halliburton.

We already know Bush choose way no 2 and that's why he will veto the bill.

[processor2]

you're exactly like your hero, Dumbya,....as everyone knows, he went AWOL and then deserted his post at a cush Air Guard gig provided by Poppy, while others were dying in Vietnam.......
Posted by VETERAN71 at 09:32 AM : Apr 26, 2007


VETERAN71

AND what branch of service did your hero Slick Willie serve in.

Bwa hahahahahahahahaha

[forthepeopl1]

who here would like to join me in delivering 3500 draped with american flags to the steps of congress,than i will be asking all the cowards that want to stay in iraq fighting a civil war.to come out and explain to all 3500 dead that they died for nothing...

and to explain to us americans how we could be in a occupation and not a war without a decuration of war sign by congress..

so anyone that wants to help me please go to [e-mail] and ask what you can do..

[xsoldier2]

The bill is only political pestering and cares less about the troops. If anyone did care about the tropes they would listen to what they had to say. If we leave the war is not over, remember it was declared on us not us on them. The hatred that so many democrats have is only hurting our country. It is the band wagon that our enemies are jumping on and enjoying it. Why doesn%u2019t everyone take a step back and try to do what is right?

[abbe7]

"If we leave the war is not over, remember it was declared on us not us on them."

How ? By a terrorist cell called PNAC ...

[mbcsmith]

I would like to ask those supporting troop withdrawl what will Iraq look like after the withdrawl?

[grumpas]

Don't forget to go and cry to your w***ore Pelosi - or Field Marshal Reid.
Posted by Superpatr898

Most of your post I left out because it was to infantile to repeat. You have no clue what you are even talking about. We do get it!!!! We have gotten it for 5 long years now! The sad part about it all the crazies like you and Didn'tinhale won't ever get it because it requires to much intelligence. But, here it goes again for the millionth time!!!! Bush lied and the troops are dying(is that plain enough for you kindergarteners)!!! It doesn't make any difference why the liar did it! That's immaterial now. Except the war was lost 5 years ago when he started it(he should have left an adult run it). We all know it might be a blood bath when we leave but it is anyway! So what difference does it make. Where is the point in asking troops to get killed for a lost cause that should have never happened??? Or do either one of you even care about the troops???? Are you so drunk on the idea of endless war that you have ceased to care? I have serious doubts you neocon's care about anything! So, you can leave the infantile street gargon with your crayons at the desk when you go home!

[realpatriot1]

I thought President Bush had normalized relations with the real Lockerbie killer-Gadaffi.

The Bill should be called the Make the Chimp Do His Job Bill.

We've done everything we can to prepare the Iraqi government and security forces to stand on their own. We've been doing it for longer than it took to win any war in our history.

The enemy has known all along that we wouldn't stay forever and so should the Iraqi government. Since the Iraqi government serves the Iranians they don't care. As long as we stay they'll keep blaming us for their incompetence.

The surge initially led to a lull because our enemy was studying our movements. Now they've gone back on the attack in Baghdad.

The only way to get out of this with any dignity whatsoever is to use the relative lull created by the temporary surge(it can't be sustained for years)to seek a diplomatic solutions with the parties in the region. There is no purely military solution.

Now that the Democrats are putting the heat on the Republicans are turning up the rhetoric. They're also moving toward diplomacy which they would never have done without pressure.

[notblue]

veteran71, the right is not a small minority in this country, this is an equally divided country that is polarized by this war. The bill passed by two votes, so grab some reality.

[processor2]

VETERAN71

Typcial liberal double standard

If it was OK for Clinton to get a deferment, then it's OK for Bush to do the same.

If you didn't complain about Clinton's deferment, you can't complain about Bush's deferment.

Remember, Clinton lowered the bar, or raised the bar, depending on your point of view

Dumb-a-s-s

[forthepeopl1]

mbcsmith- i could care less what it looks like.

nobody for 1000's of years cared. so if it was up to be i would drop the bigest h-boom we have on them and let anyone say something..i tell them they are next..iran,china,ussr

[notblue]

The constitution states in time of war the president is the commander and chief not the congress. The Democrats are trying to bend the rules and while most Americans don't like the Iraq war, most at the same time don't want to leave Iraq in chaos or lose Iraq to an enemy that still seeks to destroy us.

[processor2]

If the Democrats would take out the "surrender date", this would be a good bill.

...

[roger_inkart]

The recent WSJ poll (btw a traditionally conservative source) show that a majority of American agree with the dems on a timetable. I guess Cheney would say that most of Americans are un-American.

The right-wingers are increasingly isolated and desperate. Their infantile attacks on the dem leadership show this. They enjoyed an era where their extremist views were accepted as mainstream. No longer. You people can once again fill the slot in the minority as far right-wing fringe lunatics. With any luck your side will NEVER wield the power and influence it once did ever again.

[bm6005]

This bill doesn't pass the test of common sense.
Posted by Red1530

Nor does the war in the first place. To attack a country that did not attack us first....DUH!! At least it's UN-American to most of us.

[mudrose-2009]

The constitution states in time of war the president is the commander and chief not the congress. The Democrats are trying to bend the rules and while most Americans don't like the Iraq war, most at the same time don't want to leave Iraq in chaos or lose Iraq to an enemy that still seeks to destroy us.
Posted by notblue

Nothing you will ever say will convince these people that how we exit is important. They are deluded in their hate for Bush and cannot see the end-result of abandoning Iraq. They will give you stats, will compliment this group of socialists on the hill who don't even have the courtesy to listen to the boots on the ground. They don't care. President Harry is counting the numbers Chuck Schumer gave him about losing the war and wining the next election. These people along with this Congress are lefties gone wild. Can't pay too much attention to them. Afraid that calling to mind what 9/11 meant is a fear tactic. Well, hey, don't be surprised when, not if, it happens again. They don't understand the Constitution, either. Why even Murtha thinks it's his job to micromanage the war not realizing the Congress can only do one thing -- fund or defund. Azzholes all of them.

[starleo146]

You know you Bush lovers just make me laugh you blame us for all this bru ha ha well this pres hasn't had no accountability not once till the democrats took over the house and if all you can do is call people names and ho's etc maybe your just as scared as this pres is because we have just begun and after they roll this guy and his sidekick down those steps and waves goodbye will be the greatest day and then and only then will this country be free so just try to absorb some this stuff cause your days are numbered.

[bm6005]

are knowledgeable about the security needs of our country - and
Posted by Superpatr898

Sez you. Now how about sharing your background in security so that we can all be in awe of your superior knowledge...NOT!!!

[skyhawk761]

The constitution states in time of war the president is the commander and chief not the congress. The Democrats are trying to bend the rules and while most Americans don't like the Iraq war, most at the same time don't want to leave Iraq in chaos or lose Iraq to an enemy that still seeks to destroy us.
Posted by notblue at 09:52 AM : Apr 26, 2007


notblue, the only war that has been declared is a war on terror. The last time war was declared was WW II. Korea - conflict, Nam - conflict - Desert Storm - conflict etc.... get your facts straight. While I am at it, could you please give me a description of who we are fighting? My nephew and my neighbor that are over there would like to know.

[roger_inkart]

Americans are waking up to the fact that the Bush administration lied to them and used the anger and fear of 9/11 to push for a war that is unjust, unnessessary and making the nation less and less safe every day. That's why the nation gave the dems both houses of congress. That's why the majority of Americans believe the war was a mistake. That's why the majority of Americans support a timetable.

Face it war supporters - your time has come and gone. You will lose this battle and the nation will bring the troops home from a bloody civil war that we can stop (and, tragically, we created.)

[jn122736]

Re. Shouldnt that read "DEMOCRAT SURRENDER BILL" ? Has Borack "HUSSEIN" Obama weighed in on the "DEMOCRAT SURRENDER BILL" yet?

These cowards and traitors on the Democratic side of the Isle will be judged Politically for this next year.
(The above is part of : Posted by didntinhale at 09:30 AM : Apr 26, 2007)
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didntinhale, shouldn%u2019t that read: REPUBLICAN SURRENDER BILL?

The republican supported, fraudulent Bush administration destroyers of the constitution and the American way, were judged politically LAST YEAR?