Nine U.S. Soldiers Killed In Suicide Blast

Elsewhere, At Least 46 Iraqis Die In Multiple Blasts

(CBS/AP)  Nine U.S. soldiers were killed and 20 were wounded Monday in a suicide car bombing against a patrol base northeast of Baghdad, the military said.

An Iraqi civilian was also wounded in the attack on Task Force Lightning soldiers in Diyala province, a volatile area that has been the site of fierce fighting involving U.S. and Iraqi troops, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias.

Of the 20 wounded, 15 soldiers were treated and returned to duty while five others and the Iraqi were evacuated to a medical facility for further care, the military said.

Identities were not released pending notification of relatives.

It was the second bold attack against a U.S. base north of Baghdad in just over two months and was notable for its use of a suicide car bomber.

On Feb. 19, insurgents struck a U.S. combat post in Tarmiyah, about 30 miles north of Baghdad, killing two soldiers and wounding 17 in what the military called a "coordinated attack."

It began with a suicide car bombing, then gunfire on soldiers pinned down in a former Iraqi police station, where fuel storage tanks were set ablaze by the blast.

Militants have mostly used hit-and-run ambushes, roadside bombs or mortars on U.S. troops and stayed away from direct assaults on fortified military compounds to avoid U.S. firepower.

Suicide attacks elsewhere in Iraq killed at least 46 people and left more than 90 injured, including a car bomb that exploded near a restaurant Monday afternoon, killing at least 19 people and wounding 35, police said.

The attack occurred on a highway near Ramadi, a city 70 miles west of Baghdad, said Ramadi police Maj. Fuad al-Asafia, who provided the casualty figures.

U.S. troops raced to the scene, found a pickup truck parked nearby that was loaded with explosives and chlorine powder, and destroyed it in a controlled explosion, al-Asafia said.

Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, has long been a magnet for Sunni insurgents and a lawless haven for al Qaeda militants, but the U.S. military recently reported progress in securing and calming the city.

Earlier, four suicide bombers launched attacks in different parts of Iraq, killing 27 people and wounding more than 60, according to police and politicians.

Two parked car bombs also exploded outside the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad, killing two civilians, and a drive-by shooting wounded two guards at Tunisia's Embassy in the capital, police said.

Meanwhile, the American ambassador said Monday the U.S. would "respect the wishes" of the Iraqi government after the prime minister ordered a halt to construction of a three-mile wall separating a Sunni enclave from surrounding Shiite areas in Baghdad.

Any plan to build "gated communities" to protect Baghdad neighborhoods from sectarian attacks was in doubt after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said during a visit to Sunni-led Arab countries that he did not want the 12-foot high wall in Azamiyah to be seen as dividing the capital's sects.

However, confusion persisted about whether the plan would continue in some form: The chief Iraqi military spokesman said Monday the prime minister was responding to exaggerated reports about the barrier.

"We will continue to construct the security barriers in the Azamiyah neighborhood. This is a technical issue," Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi said. "Setting up barriers is one thing and building barriers is another. These are moveable barriers that can be removed."

Al-Moussawi noted similar walls were in place elsewhere in the capital — including in other residential neighborhoods — as part of a nearly 10-week-old security operation. But hundreds of protesters took to the streets of Azamiyah to oppose what they called "a big prison."

"The main aim of these barriers is to protect civilians and to guarantee that security forces are in control and prevent terrorists from moving between areas," al-Moussawi said.

The U.S. military announced last week that it was building a three-mile long concrete wall in Azamiyah, a Sunni stronghold whose residents have often been the victims of retaliatory mortar attacks by Shiite militants following bombings usually blamed on Sunni insurgents.

But al-Maliki ordered construction halted on Sunday and U.S. officials said that the plans could change.

"Obviously we will respect the wishes of the government and the prime minister," U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker said Monday.

He said the barrier was aimed at protecting Azamiyah, not segregating it. Sunni leaders and residents of the neighborhood, however, complain that it is a form of discrimination that would isolate the community.

Monday's first suicide car bomb attack occurred near the northern city of Mosul at 10:10 a.m. when a suicide attacker detonated his car in front of an office of the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Massoud Barzani, leader of the autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq, an official with the group said. At least 10 people were killed and 20 wounded in the attack in Tal Uskuf, a town nine miles north of Mosul, said Abdul-Ghani Ali, a KDP official.

Ghanim Hazim, 37, a shop owner in Tal Uskuf, said dozens of people rushed past his store to the site of the blast to help the wounded, who "were screaming and asking for help as they lay buried under big pieces of debris."

He said residents of the predominantly Christian town were in deep shock because it was the first terrorist attack in their tight-knit community since the Iraq war started.

"This attack shows that no place in Iraq is free from the terrorists and their evil deeds," Hazim said in an interview as firefighters and police began removing the dead and wounded.

In other developments:

Defying a fresh veto threat, the Democratic-controlled Congress will pass legislation within days requiring the start of a troop withdrawal from Iraq by Oct. 1, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Monday. The legislation also sets a goal of a complete pullout by April 1, 2008, he said. In remarks prepared for delivery, Reid said that under the legislation the troops that remain after next April 1 could only train Iraqi security units, protect U.S forces and conduct "targeted counter- terror operations."

In Mosul, suspected insurgents assassinated a local KDP official in a drive-by-shooting and a policeman who was ambushed while driving near his home, officials said.

A suicide car bomber struck a police station in Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, killing at least 10 people and wounding 23, police said. The fatalities included Brig. Gen. Safa al-Tamimi, a city police commander, and the wounded included police Col. Bassem Azzawi.

In central Baghdad, a bomber wearing an explosives belt blew himself up in an Iraqi restaurant in the mixed Shiite-Sunni neighborhood of Karradah Mariam, killing at least seven people and wounding 16, police said.

In Ramadi, a Sunni city 70 miles west of Baghdad, a suicide car bomb targeting a police checkpoint exploded, wounding three policemen and four civilians, including a child, said police Lt. Col. Jabbar Rashid al- Dulaimi.

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by radiob-2009 April 23, 2007 6:16 AM PDT

As he spoke, hundreds of Iraqis took to the streets in the area in northern Baghdad to protest the construction of the wall in Azamiyah, which residents have complained would isolate them from the rest of the city.


(CBS) There is perhaps no place in the world today where it is harder for an average person to get through an average day than in the city of Baghdad. It has become a living hell, with daily car bombs, mortar attacks, hundreds of kidnappings and murders every week.


And yet hundreds were able to protest the building of the wall?The latter story is from 60 minutes and the former is a quote from this article.

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by mcvet April 23, 2007 7:53 AM PDT

I think it's safe to say that the fascist have run out of idea's here. LOL When you are so narrow minded and when the solution requires something OTHER than bullying people, Southern Fascist just haven't a clue. The idea of finding a Political Solution to a Southern Nazi, like a Bush or Delay, is to give lip service to equal rights and fair treatment. Somehow I just do not think this is going to work in Iraq and the present leadership is so closed minded to options outside the Party Line, they have LOST this conflict.

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by afmca April 23, 2007 8:09 AM PDT

Once again the US military is mimicking the failed military strategies of Israel in constructing a wall for the false sense of security. Since the neo-cons love how their counter-parts in Israel have been able to keep the Palestanian conflict never ending by trying to resolve the issue militarily, for the sake of profits they are following like lemmings. As long as one fanatic is willing to strap a bomb on his chest and detonate it in a crowd - military action can't win. You win by giving people economic assistance and hope for the future. Israel and the US are failing equally in their middle east conflicts.

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by afmca April 23, 2007 8:12 AM PDT

But, on the other hand, it proves the the US needs to get out of there immediately as it shows the Iraqi government doesn't really want to end the conflict either. They want to obliterate the Sunnis and if they can take a few American troops with them, so much for the better. Don't build the wall and bring the troops home - the only real solution.

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by dallison7 April 23, 2007 8:19 AM PDT

THIS WAR IS LOST!!!

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by omnibus66 April 23, 2007 8:33 AM PDT

There are both good and bad things about the South, but please stop blaming it for George Bush. He was born on July 6, 1946 in New Haven, CONNECTICUT. He is a YANKEE.

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by boondoggler7 April 23, 2007 8:41 AM PDT

Actually, there was never a technical war to begin with. A true war would be if Iraqis were landing here in droves and it was do or die. It was an invasion of a sovereign nation to establish military bases, drain the oil to create a gigantic disneyland in the middle of the desert to spring forth a utopia of sorts. However, utopian pursuers, such as Herbert Herver, created great depressions under the guise of good intentions. If the military campaign continues indefinetly, the violence, which is escalating in nature, will more likely continue as it always has done before and eventually mankind will be killed off except for the uber elite so I suppose for them it will be a utopia since they won't have a lot of beggars asking for handouts. However, traditionally, such attempts at global domination (ala Rome) have lead to mass blowback which ended up creating a dire situation for the global dominators. It is understandable how someone with unchecked power can become intoxicated to the point that they are on a freight train out of control. Hell, I've been there. Once you're on that freight train it takes a hell of a lot of guts to jump off. They just need to put on the breaks and let it slow down slowly. Besides, even militarly, the goal of disarming Weapons of Mass Destruction had already been achieved by Bushes's father, plus they got the bonus of toppling the dictator Saddam Hussein. Basically, Bush is simply the quarterback who won the super bowl but doesn't want to leave the field.

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by boondoggler7 April 23, 2007 8:44 AM PDT

Goodnight Goodmorning. I have to go to school soon. It's been funny. As far as all this war stuff goes, I don't really wanna hear no more.

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by boondoggler7 April 23, 2007 8:48 AM PDT

A peace officer once told me if he wants you to leave, you have to leave. Iraq wants us to leave, so we should leave. Albeit slowly. Much like withdrawing a cancerous tumor, if you rip it out to quickly, it will damage other things to. The John Fitzgerald Kennedy method of withdrawl would actually, in this case be feasible. However, I would normally not recommend the Kennedy method. Typically, it is better not to plunge or if you do make sure you have a parachute.

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by rochest April 23, 2007 9:07 AM PDT

THE WAR WAS WON---- we did get rid of Saddam Hussein for what that's worth( not much if you ask many Iraqis and as I often tell my little children when they resort to force/violence to settle conflicts there is other ways to do this)

but

WE LOST THE PEACE and many many American soldiers and Iraqi civilians have died and been wounded.

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by allgood34 April 23, 2007 9:14 AM PDT

Does anyone really think a wall is the answer? It doesn't matter if you build a wall or a futuristic force field there will be death and destruction as long as people walk that part of the earth.

Look at the history books people. If the violence hasn't stopped in that area in thousands of years it's not going to. Those people hate Americans and the western way of life. It doesn't matter what idea we come up with or take part in. If Americans have anything to do with the project it will fail simply because we are hated and the people there will reject anything we're involved in. Bring the troops home and let them either kill themselves off or figure out how to live and work together.

It is not possible to help someone who does not want and refuses help. Forcing your beliefs and way of life on someone will only cause them to hate you more. Isn't that why our ancestors left England and moved to America? From my understanding of history they moved because they didn't want a way of life forced on them, England tried and many lives were lost in the process. England lost that one. Now the US is trying to force a way on life on Iraq. Hello we've lost give it up before more Americans die!!!!

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by allgood34 April 23, 2007 9:24 AM PDT

THE WAR WAS WON---- we did get rid of Saddam Hussein for what that's worth

Posted by Rochest at 09:07 AM : Apr 23, 2007

And do you remember the basis for the war? We invaded that country because of the "stock piles of WMDs". Where are these stock piles? How did we "WIN" if we never found the stock piles of chemical weapons? I was there when we invaded and we invaded that country based on the fabricated lies of our leaders. It's been 4 years and we haven't found anything more than a couple of empty mustard gas containers. We lied to the world and invaded a country because our leader didn't like that country's leader. That's a BS reason to invade and has cost Americans thousands of lives and trillions of tax payer dollars. I ask you this - WHAT DID WE WIN? It wasn't the respect of the people in that country and it wasn't the war on terror and there is more death and destruction in that country than there was when Saddam was in power so what did we win?

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by panhandlpete April 23, 2007 9:32 AM PDT

Delay....delay....delay, but not Tom! The new "surge" is working. Yes, but for whom? Not the Sunni that are being walled within their neighborhood. The people know that they must live together as neighbors so they protest the wall. Or, perhaps this is an attempt to assist in the final elimination of the Sunni by putting them within a collective neighborhood.

If the wall is stopped, then what will be the next tactic initiated to "delay" until the OIL CONTRACTS are finalized. Those Iraqis involved in this process are not rushing this effort, so it does appear that they want the occupation to continue to provide them security, or something.

The Republicans will start getting a nervous twitch by this November as some primaries have been moved forward to early '08. Hopefully, it will NOT be forgotten that the rubberstamp REPUBS could have gotten us out of this MESS, if they only would stand up to the DECIDER.

How many more lives must be sacrificed? How many families of dead soldiers watched television this week, and saw all the attention given to loss of life to Virginia Tech students/teachers, but see so little shared grief for their loss?

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by jwhitmann April 23, 2007 9:55 AM PDT

MCVet
is ignorant, pathetic and needs to have his undeserved ego deflated.

He sounds like some 13 year old wannabe bully who has just realized that he will never get any because the girls hate him.
So he becomes a legend in his own mind. Seig Heil, MCVet.

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 10:17 AM PDT

Harry Reid a/k/a Benedict Arnold, says "this Congress will show him (Bush) the way out of Iraq". It's a method that Longfellow described in his poem The Day is Done. . .

. . .they shall fold their tents like the Arabs and as silently steal away...

Now who's an Al-Qaida sympathizer? Nothing like it I've ever seen in the history of this country. Always a Dem Congress showing us the way to disaster, to pandering, to giving the enemy the benefit of the doubt and s/h/i/ting on the troops. Fine group of patriots with their surrender solutions. Despicable!

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 10:30 AM PDT

It takes the PM of Iraq to stop it does anyone remmeber the other Republican A Hole Ronnie saying Mr Gorbachev Build another wall. Look how low a once great country has sunk SHAME!
Posted by jerryomara

But of course you know the intention of building the wall right? And Veteran 71, why wait for the '08 election? Let's hold it now. This is better known as anarchy.

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by ammianus April 23, 2007 10:38 AM PDT

The Sorrows of Young Dumus, Art. XX:
Successful crime knows nothing of satiety. Both the exhilarating momentum of conquest, and the need to distract the populace from the escape of ibn Shaitan demanded the subjugation of Mesopotamia. In this adventure, the Oligarchs inflexibly pursued two paramount objectives. The first of these was the establishment of a docile client state firmly garrisoned by the Hegemon in the very heart of Dar al-Islam. The second object, urged in part by the thirst for more energy resources (Art.XI), was the complete control of the wealth of the country by the Oligarchy. No sacrifice of the populace, however bloody, and no crime, however brutal, would deter the Oligarchs from these goals. But at the outset, Mesopotamia appeared as a rich fruit, ripe for the plucking. The tyrant, Nur ud Din, had made himself odious to mankind by his blatant cruelties. The strangulation of Mesopotamia by the elder Dumus had impoverished the country and rendered it defenseless, while its reserves of hydrocarbon energy resources were second only to the House of Saaud. Even better, the land could be exploited as a royal demesne with much of the public revenue diverted to the imperial clique of Dumus. The gold, thus plundered, fed a cloud of delators, worm-tongues, and agents of provocation; all dedicated to the extinction of the last embers of freedom within the Hegemon. As a final advantage, Persia could be attacked from the west as well as from the north and east.

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by bgreen415 April 23, 2007 10:44 AM PDT

It is more than obvious that anything we do in Iraq now will be wrong. Time to leave and let them rule their own civil war, err excuse me, country.

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 10:46 AM PDT

mudrose,,,, Anarchy, that's what I'm talking about... Actually I'd perfer supporting the democrats, give them a chance ---- Republicans have been wrong for the last 6 years -

We now have over 3,322 of our brave not comming home, to our family's - Bush lies again today about surge progress.

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 10:56 AM PDT

FARTKNOCKER2 -- If you haven't noticed for the last 4 years ----- Every time the 'Decider' opens his yap,, Conditions get worst.

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 10:57 AM PDT

The gold, thus plundered, fed a cloud of delators, worm-tongues, and agents of provocation; all dedicated to the extinction of the last embers of freedom within the Hegemon. As a final advantage, Persia could be attacked from the west as well as from the north and east.
Posted by Ammianus

Powerful, disturbing and poignant. Not our history and not our purpose. However, Harry Reid and this Congress has but one thing to do and that is to cut off funding. PERIOD. They do not need to enlighten Bush or anyone else is this country. They do not need to micro-manage the war. They are anarchists. Since Reid feels the war is lost, then stop the funding and take the responsibility for it. Do nothing aholes.

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 10:58 AM PDT

FARTKNOCKER2 --- Terrorism has only grown & morphed under Bush -- The world is much less safe

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by dallison7 April 23, 2007 11:01 AM PDT

Iraq Suicide Attacks Kill Dozens
At Least 46 Die In Multiple Blasts






CARE TO COMMENT. SENATOR McCAIN???

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 11:03 AM PDT

mudrose,, What else does Harry Reid say ?? He says we need to start taking the fight to Al Quida in other nations & repair our military.

What does Bush do??? Stay the course, WACKAMO

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 11:06 AM PDT

dallison7,,,, Suicide blasts ??
Are you sure it's not "LIBERATION JUBLIATION" as our White House would lead us to believe ????

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 11:09 AM PDT

dallison7 --- Wasn't General Petreaus saying this morning that they will have to live with attacks ?? ------ Our 'Decider' calls it 'achievemnet'...

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 11:18 AM PDT

What else does Harry Reid say ?? He says we need to start taking the fight to Al Quida in other nations & repair our military.

Whitman

Oh, something wrong with the ones in Iraq? Look, plain and simple, Reid and his band of defeatists should cut the funding. They should do what they do best. Run.

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by irishbitch1 April 23, 2007 11:26 AM PDT

FARTKNOCKER2

YOU ARE AS DELUSIONAL AS YOUR SIMPLEMINDED BUSH. IRAQ IS A TERRORIST BREEDING GROUND. THE SURGE IS ONLY MAKING THINGS WORSE AND GETTING MORE OF OUE SOLDIERS KILLED FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT US TO LEAVE.
CUT FUNDING AND END THIS INSANE WAR.

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by micma-2009 April 23, 2007 11:26 AM PDT

mudrose

Don't you mean "stay the course" despite overwhelming daily evidence that the current policy is a failure?

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 11:28 AM PDT

everyone from the republicans to the media, has wrote bush off as the worst president in usa history. especially the american public !!!
Posted by usadvisor101

Have you heard that Al-Qaida is planning a monumental assault on England and the West along the lines of Hiroshama. Hey, guess where they are planning this from. Dud, Iran. Thought you might all like an update. Every time the bozos on the hill open their big fat mouths, this is what happens in Iraq and they aren't going to stop it until Harry declares a cease fire.

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by micma-2009 April 23, 2007 11:31 AM PDT

"Have you heard that Al-Qaida is planning a monumental assault on England and the West along the lines of Hiroshama. Hey, guess where they are planning this from. Dud, Iran."
Posted by mudrose at 11:28 AM : Apr 23, 2007


mudrose

Do you have a source?

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by freedomisnot April 23, 2007 11:33 AM PDT

The islamofacist philosophy

"If you do not agree with me and do as I say we will blow you up and anyone around you. You are infidels and your life is worth nothing."

Lets surrender and negotiate today less people will die today. What about a year from now, five years from now.......

The fight is here and now if you don't like to fight or it's not in your intestinal fortitude then s2 and let those who will fight do their jobs.

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by j-whitman April 23, 2007 11:34 AM PDT

mudrose,,,, Reid isn't the problem, Bush has wasted billions not going after al Quadia -- He won't demand the UAE stop funding terrorists.

But, it is nice not to hear you blaming Clinton

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 11:49 AM PDT

Mudrose where did you here this?
Posted by superchez1

Just saw it posted on the Web. Check ABC or NBC news.

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by king77shaw April 23, 2007 11:49 AM PDT

the best way to beat Al Quaeda is to leave the Middle East ... a REAL president that exibited REAL VISION and REAL Leadership would announce a 10 year divestment plan in the Middle East that would include the following:

1) all US troop out of the region within 10 years ..
2) the money we would save by pulling our troops could be funnelled into a high priority government program to develop and implement alternative energies, thus creating tens of thousands of well paid jobs for actual Americans .. we would also produce a valuable commodity to export ..
3) a cessation of military funding for Israel and a fair and viable state for the Palestinians ..

these 3 steps would doom Al Quaeda - they would no longer have a rallying cry and would be left to hash out their own differences .. seems logical, so why don't we do this ? easy answer - Big Oil and AIPAC own Congress and these logical steps go against their narrow interests ...

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by freedomisnot April 23, 2007 11:52 AM PDT

SURRENDER NOW!!!!!! WE CAN'T WIN!!!! THEY DON'T FIGHT FAIR!!!!!!!IT COSTS TOO MUCH!!!!!THEY WON'T BLOW US UP IF WE LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!!!

If the Hadjis nuke England the shimmer of glass will be seen from Morrocco to Tehran.The Super Cooker will Q their sorry a**es.

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 11:55 AM PDT

"Have you heard that Al-Qaida is planning a monumental assault on England and the West along the lines of Hiroshama. Hey, guess where they are planning this from. Dud, Iran."
Posted by mudrose at 11:28 AM : Apr 23, 2007


mudrose

Do you have a source?
Posted by micma

Yeah, I just went into Fox News. Great.

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by micma-2009 April 23, 2007 11:56 AM PDT

Yeah, I just went into Fox News. Great.
Posted by mudrose at 11:55 AM : Apr 23, 2007


Ok, do you have a credible source?

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 11:59 AM PDT

Ok, do you have a credible source?


Posted by micma

Try BBC

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 12:04 PM PDT

If it does not come from an anti American news source its not credible.
Posted by didntinhale

Nah, it just means Fox is on the ball. I'm sure it'll be covered by the alphabets shortly.

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by micma-2009 April 23, 2007 12:07 PM PDT

mudrose

The pundits and talking heads are paid to lie. Do you do it for free?

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by freedomisnot April 23, 2007 12:09 PM PDT

Hey Einstien's the source is a report prepared by MI5 British inteligence agency and the report was "leaked" to the press.

And we all know what "leaked" intelligence reports mean right.

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 12:10 PM PDT

Okay, everybody off this site. President Harry is addressing the nation on funding the war. Micma, I trust you mean all the pundits and talking heads. That would be the fair thing to say, right? So if they all lie, then who's telling the truth? Give it a rest.

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by warvetoif3 April 23, 2007 12:11 PM PDT

The war is not lost dallison. Troops on the ground will tell you that. The political process may be losing but the ground war is not.
If we stick our heads in the sand terrorist will not go away or play nice. We have to change the political thinking of these people.
I read alot of people saying just run away from Iraq and they will leave us alone. If you belive this then you are idiots to the tenth power. This fight is to the end.now what I would like for the public to do is try to get the rules of engagment changed. Let the military fight like we'er suppose to, with over wellming force.

Note: you are not supporting us if you say we'er losing the war!

Are the police losing the war on crime because someone got their purse stolen or a criminal broke into someones house? Should we pull all of them out of the neigborhood?
Think about it!!!

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 12:16 PM PDT

it will be israel. no wonder this occpuation of iraq is botched you chicken hawks are clueless about what you done and whom really is your enemy.
Posted by usadvisor101

Oh, so you don't mind if Israel gets attacked. Aren't we selective. Duh.

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by antoniof123 April 23, 2007 12:21 PM PDT

I can not believe that there are any morons left to support this mess the chickens in charge got us into. It will not matter soon, as his royal moron vetos the bill congress will pass then in effect he will be defunding the troops because if congress does not pass a bill no money so the moron either signs it or pulls out. Wow a no lose for America, there really is a God just not the god of the neo cons.

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by freedomisnot April 23, 2007 12:24 PM PDT

They won't blow us up if we just play nice..... maybe they will just blow up Isreal and stop there...... maybe they will just blow up England and stop there....... maybe just New York .....maybe just Miami.........

maybe just yourhometown......

if we just give them what they want they won't blow us up TODAY

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by ammermantm April 23, 2007 12:35 PM PDT

Hey didntinhale

how long was your tour over there? I was lucky to get out when I did, but you obviously spent enough time to know exactly what is working and how to deal with these people.

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by freedomisnot April 23, 2007 12:41 PM PDT

usadvise

The enemy of my enemy is my friend and what's in a name Al quida, Hezbolla, The Sword of Alla, The Martyrs Brigade etc etc

their philosophy is the same

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by mudrose-2009 April 23, 2007 12:44 PM PDT

Look, President Harry has it all packaged for the whole lot of you. The only thing President Harry hasn't said and should is we are cutting the funding for the war. But Harry thinks he was elected to the Presidency and must convince the American people that his posturing and anarchy is politically correct. Therefore, instead of terse verse, Harry needs an audience. Just like Pelosi needed Syria. These people are not Americans. They are socialists. If you think they care about anybody but their poor little behinds, think again. I said it a long time ago and I will say it again. They should all be thrown out of office and the American people should petitiion government for term limits. They have gone over the deep end.

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[radiob-2009]

As he spoke, hundreds of Iraqis took to the streets in the area in northern Baghdad to protest the construction of the wall in Azamiyah, which residents have complained would isolate them from the rest of the city.


(CBS) There is perhaps no place in the world today where it is harder for an average person to get through an average day than in the city of Baghdad. It has become a living hell, with daily car bombs, mortar attacks, hundreds of kidnappings and murders every week.


And yet hundreds were able to protest the building of the wall?The latter story is from 60 minutes and the former is a quote from this article.

[mcvet]

I think it's safe to say that the fascist have run out of idea's here. LOL When you are so narrow minded and when the solution requires something OTHER than bullying people, Southern Fascist just haven't a clue. The idea of finding a Political Solution to a Southern Nazi, like a Bush or Delay, is to give lip service to equal rights and fair treatment. Somehow I just do not think this is going to work in Iraq and the present leadership is so closed minded to options outside the Party Line, they have LOST this conflict.

[afmca]

Once again the US military is mimicking the failed military strategies of Israel in constructing a wall for the false sense of security. Since the neo-cons love how their counter-parts in Israel have been able to keep the Palestanian conflict never ending by trying to resolve the issue militarily, for the sake of profits they are following like lemmings. As long as one fanatic is willing to strap a bomb on his chest and detonate it in a crowd - military action can't win. You win by giving people economic assistance and hope for the future. Israel and the US are failing equally in their middle east conflicts.

[afmca]

But, on the other hand, it proves the the US needs to get out of there immediately as it shows the Iraqi government doesn't really want to end the conflict either. They want to obliterate the Sunnis and if they can take a few American troops with them, so much for the better. Don't build the wall and bring the troops home - the only real solution.

[dallison7]

THIS WAR IS LOST!!!

[omnibus66]

There are both good and bad things about the South, but please stop blaming it for George Bush. He was born on July 6, 1946 in New Haven, CONNECTICUT. He is a YANKEE.

[boondoggler7]

Actually, there was never a technical war to begin with. A true war would be if Iraqis were landing here in droves and it was do or die. It was an invasion of a sovereign nation to establish military bases, drain the oil to create a gigantic disneyland in the middle of the desert to spring forth a utopia of sorts. However, utopian pursuers, such as Herbert Herver, created great depressions under the guise of good intentions. If the military campaign continues indefinetly, the violence, which is escalating in nature, will more likely continue as it always has done before and eventually mankind will be killed off except for the uber elite so I suppose for them it will be a utopia since they won't have a lot of beggars asking for handouts. However, traditionally, such attempts at global domination (ala Rome) have lead to mass blowback which ended up creating a dire situation for the global dominators. It is understandable how someone with unchecked power can become intoxicated to the point that they are on a freight train out of control. Hell, I've been there. Once you're on that freight train it takes a hell of a lot of guts to jump off. They just need to put on the breaks and let it slow down slowly. Besides, even militarly, the goal of disarming Weapons of Mass Destruction had already been achieved by Bushes's father, plus they got the bonus of toppling the dictator Saddam Hussein. Basically, Bush is simply the quarterback who won the super bowl but doesn't want to leave the field.

[boondoggler7]

Goodnight Goodmorning. I have to go to school soon. It's been funny. As far as all this war stuff goes, I don't really wanna hear no more.

[boondoggler7]

A peace officer once told me if he wants you to leave, you have to leave. Iraq wants us to leave, so we should leave. Albeit slowly. Much like withdrawing a cancerous tumor, if you rip it out to quickly, it will damage other things to. The John Fitzgerald Kennedy method of withdrawl would actually, in this case be feasible. However, I would normally not recommend the Kennedy method. Typically, it is better not to plunge or if you do make sure you have a parachute.

[rochest]

THE WAR WAS WON---- we did get rid of Saddam Hussein for what that's worth( not much if you ask many Iraqis and as I often tell my little children when they resort to force/violence to settle conflicts there is other ways to do this)

but

WE LOST THE PEACE and many many American soldiers and Iraqi civilians have died and been wounded.

[allgood34]

Does anyone really think a wall is the answer? It doesn't matter if you build a wall or a futuristic force field there will be death and destruction as long as people walk that part of the earth.

Look at the history books people. If the violence hasn't stopped in that area in thousands of years it's not going to. Those people hate Americans and the western way of life. It doesn't matter what idea we come up with or take part in. If Americans have anything to do with the project it will fail simply because we are hated and the people there will reject anything we're involved in. Bring the troops home and let them either kill themselves off or figure out how to live and work together.

It is not possible to help someone who does not want and refuses help. Forcing your beliefs and way of life on someone will only cause them to hate you more. Isn't that why our ancestors left England and moved to America? From my understanding of history they moved because they didn't want a way of life forced on them, England tried and many lives were lost in the process. England lost that one. Now the US is trying to force a way on life on Iraq. Hello we've lost give it up before more Americans die!!!!

[allgood34]

THE WAR WAS WON---- we did get rid of Saddam Hussein for what that's worth

Posted by Rochest at 09:07 AM : Apr 23, 2007

And do you remember the basis for the war? We invaded that country because of the "stock piles of WMDs". Where are these stock piles? How did we "WIN" if we never found the stock piles of chemical weapons? I was there when we invaded and we invaded that country based on the fabricated lies of our leaders. It's been 4 years and we haven't found anything more than a couple of empty mustard gas containers. We lied to the world and invaded a country because our leader didn't like that country's leader. That's a BS reason to invade and has cost Americans thousands of lives and trillions of tax payer dollars. I ask you this - WHAT DID WE WIN? It wasn't the respect of the people in that country and it wasn't the war on terror and there is more death and destruction in that country than there was when Saddam was in power so what did we win?

[panhandlpete]

Delay....delay....delay, but not Tom! The new "surge" is working. Yes, but for whom? Not the Sunni that are being walled within their neighborhood. The people know that they must live together as neighbors so they protest the wall. Or, perhaps this is an attempt to assist in the final elimination of the Sunni by putting them within a collective neighborhood.

If the wall is stopped, then what will be the next tactic initiated to "delay" until the OIL CONTRACTS are finalized. Those Iraqis involved in this process are not rushing this effort, so it does appear that they want the occupation to continue to provide them security, or something.

The Republicans will start getting a nervous twitch by this November as some primaries have been moved forward to early '08. Hopefully, it will NOT be forgotten that the rubberstamp REPUBS could have gotten us out of this MESS, if they only would stand up to the DECIDER.

How many more lives must be sacrificed? How many families of dead soldiers watched television this week, and saw all the attention given to loss of life to Virginia Tech students/teachers, but see so little shared grief for their loss?

[jwhitmann]

MCVet
is ignorant, pathetic and needs to have his undeserved ego deflated.

He sounds like some 13 year old wannabe bully who has just realized that he will never get any because the girls hate him.
So he becomes a legend in his own mind. Seig Heil, MCVet.

[mudrose-2009]

Harry Reid a/k/a Benedict Arnold, says "this Congress will show him (Bush) the way out of Iraq". It's a method that Longfellow described in his poem The Day is Done. . .

. . .they shall fold their tents like the Arabs and as silently steal away...

Now who's an Al-Qaida sympathizer? Nothing like it I've ever seen in the history of this country. Always a Dem Congress showing us the way to disaster, to pandering, to giving the enemy the benefit of the doubt and s/h/i/ting on the troops. Fine group of patriots with their surrender solutions. Despicable!

[mudrose-2009]

It takes the PM of Iraq to stop it does anyone remmeber the other Republican A Hole Ronnie saying Mr Gorbachev Build another wall. Look how low a once great country has sunk SHAME!
Posted by jerryomara

But of course you know the intention of building the wall right? And Veteran 71, why wait for the '08 election? Let's hold it now. This is better known as anarchy.

[ammianus]

The Sorrows of Young Dumus, Art. XX:
Successful crime knows nothing of satiety. Both the exhilarating momentum of conquest, and the need to distract the populace from the escape of ibn Shaitan demanded the subjugation of Mesopotamia. In this adventure, the Oligarchs inflexibly pursued two paramount objectives. The first of these was the establishment of a docile client state firmly garrisoned by the Hegemon in the very heart of Dar al-Islam. The second object, urged in part by the thirst for more energy resources (Art.XI), was the complete control of the wealth of the country by the Oligarchy. No sacrifice of the populace, however bloody, and no crime, however brutal, would deter the Oligarchs from these goals. But at the outset, Mesopotamia appeared as a rich fruit, ripe for the plucking. The tyrant, Nur ud Din, had made himself odious to mankind by his blatant cruelties. The strangulation of Mesopotamia by the elder Dumus had impoverished the country and rendered it defenseless, while its reserves of hydrocarbon energy resources were second only to the House of Saaud. Even better, the land could be exploited as a royal demesne with much of the public revenue diverted to the imperial clique of Dumus. The gold, thus plundered, fed a cloud of delators, worm-tongues, and agents of provocation; all dedicated to the extinction of the last embers of freedom within the Hegemon. As a final advantage, Persia could be attacked from the west as well as from the north and east.

[bgreen415]

It is more than obvious that anything we do in Iraq now will be wrong. Time to leave and let them rule their own civil war, err excuse me, country.

[j-whitman]

mudrose,,,, Anarchy, that's what I'm talking about... Actually I'd perfer supporting the democrats, give them a chance ---- Republicans have been wrong for the last 6 years -

We now have over 3,322 of our brave not comming home, to our family's - Bush lies again today about surge progress.

[j-whitman]

FARTKNOCKER2 -- If you haven't noticed for the last 4 years ----- Every time the 'Decider' opens his yap,, Conditions get worst.

[mudrose-2009]

The gold, thus plundered, fed a cloud of delators, worm-tongues, and agents of provocation; all dedicated to the extinction of the last embers of freedom within the Hegemon. As a final advantage, Persia could be attacked from the west as well as from the north and east.
Posted by Ammianus

Powerful, disturbing and poignant. Not our history and not our purpose. However, Harry Reid and this Congress has but one thing to do and that is to cut off funding. PERIOD. They do not need to enlighten Bush or anyone else is this country. They do not need to micro-manage the war. They are anarchists. Since Reid feels the war is lost, then stop the funding and take the responsibility for it. Do nothing aholes.

[j-whitman]

FARTKNOCKER2 --- Terrorism has only grown & morphed under Bush -- The world is much less safe

[dallison7]

Iraq Suicide Attacks Kill Dozens
At Least 46 Die In Multiple Blasts






CARE TO COMMENT. SENATOR McCAIN???

[j-whitman]

mudrose,, What else does Harry Reid say ?? He says we need to start taking the fight to Al Quida in other nations & repair our military.

What does Bush do??? Stay the course, WACKAMO

[j-whitman]

dallison7,,,, Suicide blasts ??
Are you sure it's not "LIBERATION JUBLIATION" as our White House would lead us to believe ????

[j-whitman]

dallison7 --- Wasn't General Petreaus saying this morning that they will have to live with attacks ?? ------ Our 'Decider' calls it 'achievemnet'...

[mudrose-2009]

What else does Harry Reid say ?? He says we need to start taking the fight to Al Quida in other nations & repair our military.

Whitman

Oh, something wrong with the ones in Iraq? Look, plain and simple, Reid and his band of defeatists should cut the funding. They should do what they do best. Run.

[irishbitch1]

FARTKNOCKER2

YOU ARE AS DELUSIONAL AS YOUR SIMPLEMINDED BUSH. IRAQ IS A TERRORIST BREEDING GROUND. THE SURGE IS ONLY MAKING THINGS WORSE AND GETTING MORE OF OUE SOLDIERS KILLED FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT US TO LEAVE.
CUT FUNDING AND END THIS INSANE WAR.

[micma-2009]

mudrose

Don't you mean "stay the course" despite overwhelming daily evidence that the current policy is a failure?

[mudrose-2009]

everyone from the republicans to the media, has wrote bush off as the worst president in usa history. especially the american public !!!
Posted by usadvisor101

Have you heard that Al-Qaida is planning a monumental assault on England and the West along the lines of Hiroshama. Hey, guess where they are planning this from. Dud, Iran. Thought you might all like an update. Every time the bozos on the hill open their big fat mouths, this is what happens in Iraq and they aren't going to stop it until Harry declares a cease fire.

[micma-2009]

"Have you heard that Al-Qaida is planning a monumental assault on England and the West along the lines of Hiroshama. Hey, guess where they are planning this from. Dud, Iran."
Posted by mudrose at 11:28 AM : Apr 23, 2007


mudrose

Do you have a source?

[freedomisnot]

The islamofacist philosophy

"If you do not agree with me and do as I say we will blow you up and anyone around you. You are infidels and your life is worth nothing."

Lets surrender and negotiate today less people will die today. What about a year from now, five years from now.......

The fight is here and now if you don't like to fight or it's not in your intestinal fortitude then s2 and let those who will fight do their jobs.

[j-whitman]

mudrose,,,, Reid isn't the problem, Bush has wasted billions not going after al Quadia -- He won't demand the UAE stop funding terrorists.

But, it is nice not to hear you blaming Clinton

[mudrose-2009]

Mudrose where did you here this?
Posted by superchez1

Just saw it posted on the Web. Check ABC or NBC news.

[king77shaw]

the best way to beat Al Quaeda is to leave the Middle East ... a REAL president that exibited REAL VISION and REAL Leadership would announce a 10 year divestment plan in the Middle East that would include the following:

1) all US troop out of the region within 10 years ..
2) the money we would save by pulling our troops could be funnelled into a high priority government program to develop and implement alternative energies, thus creating tens of thousands of well paid jobs for actual Americans .. we would also produce a valuable commodity to export ..
3) a cessation of military funding for Israel and a fair and viable state for the Palestinians ..

these 3 steps would doom Al Quaeda - they would no longer have a rallying cry and would be left to hash out their own differences .. seems logical, so why don't we do this ? easy answer - Big Oil and AIPAC own Congress and these logical steps go against their narrow interests ...

[freedomisnot]

SURRENDER NOW!!!!!! WE CAN'T WIN!!!! THEY DON'T FIGHT FAIR!!!!!!!IT COSTS TOO MUCH!!!!!THEY WON'T BLOW US UP IF WE LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!!!

If the Hadjis nuke England the shimmer of glass will be seen from Morrocco to Tehran.The Super Cooker will Q their sorry a**es.

[mudrose-2009]

"Have you heard that Al-Qaida is planning a monumental assault on England and the West along the lines of Hiroshama. Hey, guess where they are planning this from. Dud, Iran."
Posted by mudrose at 11:28 AM : Apr 23, 2007


mudrose

Do you have a source?
Posted by micma

Yeah, I just went into Fox News. Great.

[micma-2009]

Yeah, I just went into Fox News. Great.
Posted by mudrose at 11:55 AM : Apr 23, 2007


Ok, do you have a credible source?

[mudrose-2009]

Ok, do you have a credible source?


Posted by micma

Try BBC

[mudrose-2009]

If it does not come from an anti American news source its not credible.
Posted by didntinhale

Nah, it just means Fox is on the ball. I'm sure it'll be covered by the alphabets shortly.

[micma-2009]

mudrose

The pundits and talking heads are paid to lie. Do you do it for free?

[freedomisnot]

Hey Einstien's the source is a report prepared by MI5 British inteligence agency and the report was "leaked" to the press.

And we all know what "leaked" intelligence reports mean right.

[mudrose-2009]

Okay, everybody off this site. President Harry is addressing the nation on funding the war. Micma, I trust you mean all the pundits and talking heads. That would be the fair thing to say, right? So if they all lie, then who's telling the truth? Give it a rest.

[warvetoif3]

The war is not lost dallison. Troops on the ground will tell you that. The political process may be losing but the ground war is not.
If we stick our heads in the sand terrorist will not go away or play nice. We have to change the political thinking of these people.
I read alot of people saying just run away from Iraq and they will leave us alone. If you belive this then you are idiots to the tenth power. This fight is to the end.now what I would like for the public to do is try to get the rules of engagment changed. Let the military fight like we'er suppose to, with over wellming force.

Note: you are not supporting us if you say we'er losing the war!

Are the police losing the war on crime because someone got their purse stolen or a criminal broke into someones house? Should we pull all of them out of the neigborhood?
Think about it!!!

[mudrose-2009]

it will be israel. no wonder this occpuation of iraq is botched you chicken hawks are clueless about what you done and whom really is your enemy.
Posted by usadvisor101

Oh, so you don't mind if Israel gets attacked. Aren't we selective. Duh.

[antoniof123]

I can not believe that there are any morons left to support this mess the chickens in charge got us into. It will not matter soon, as his royal moron vetos the bill congress will pass then in effect he will be defunding the troops because if congress does not pass a bill no money so the moron either signs it or pulls out. Wow a no lose for America, there really is a God just not the god of the neo cons.

[freedomisnot]

They won't blow us up if we just play nice..... maybe they will just blow up Isreal and stop there...... maybe they will just blow up England and stop there....... maybe just New York .....maybe just Miami.........

maybe just yourhometown......

if we just give them what they want they won't blow us up TODAY

[ammermantm]

Hey didntinhale

how long was your tour over there? I was lucky to get out when I did, but you obviously spent enough time to know exactly what is working and how to deal with these people.

[freedomisnot]

usadvise

The enemy of my enemy is my friend and what's in a name Al quida, Hezbolla, The Sword of Alla, The Martyrs Brigade etc etc

their philosophy is the same

[mudrose-2009]

Look, President Harry has it all packaged for the whole lot of you. The only thing President Harry hasn't said and should is we are cutting the funding for the war. But Harry thinks he was elected to the Presidency and must convince the American people that his posturing and anarchy is politically correct. Therefore, instead of terse verse, Harry needs an audience. Just like Pelosi needed Syria. These people are not Americans. They are socialists. If you think they care about anybody but their poor little behinds, think again. I said it a long time ago and I will say it again. They should all be thrown out of office and the American people should petitiion government for term limits. They have gone over the deep end.