April 22, 2007

Mind Of The Assassin

Scott Pelley On How The Secret Service Studies The Minds Of Assassins

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(CBS)  If you think what happened at Virginia Tech is incomprehensible, you’re about to meet some people who understand that kind of madness very well: they're the people who protect the president of the United States.

For years, the U.S. Secret Service has sent psychologists into prisons and mental hospitals to interview those bent on assassination.

As Scott Pelley reports, their interviews bring extraordinary insight into the mind of an assassin; what has been discovered in the process is that many of the same characteristics found in assassins can also be found in school shooters.

In recent years, 60 Minutes has had unprecedented access to the Secret Service Intelligence Division.



When it comes to protecting the presidential motorcade, the Secret Service training center outside Washington D.C. is without a doubt the most hostile "town" in America. You won’t find its streets on any map; the center was built after the Kennedy assassination to drill the agents of the presidential protection detail. There's even an airport with one half of an Air Force One plane, where agents take turns playing the commander-in-chief and the gunman in the crowd.

This is practice for last ditch defense, but as one agent told 60 Minutes, "If the guns come out, we've already failed."

It’s up to the Secret Service Intelligence Division to stop the assassin before he picks up a gun. They open new cases every month, investigating people who may want to harm those under Secret Service protection. The trouble is how to sort out those who just make a threat from those who actually pose a threat.

"Many of those who committed attacks did not threaten prior to their attack of violence," explains former Special Agent Brian Vossekuil.

In 1999, Vossekuil and psychologist Dr. Robert Fein were the primary authors of a groundbreaking Secret Service study of stalkers and assassins. They called it the "Exceptional Case Study."

They analyzed 83 attacks, and interviewed gunmen including Arthur Bremmer, who gunned down presidential candidate George Wallace, and Mark Chapman, who murdered John Lennon.

"What was it that struck you about these 83 cases you researched in the exceptional case study?" Pelley asks Dr. Fein.

"There was no, 'quote' profile of an assassin or a near assassin. People came from a range of backgrounds. Some had criminal records, most did not, some had histories of violence, most did not," Fein explains.

"The behavior in the acts generally included, things like communication to others, planning, target selection," Vossekuil explains.

"These were not impulsive, out of the blue, attacks. They were part of a process," Fein says.

"And we found, as Robert just said, acts that were in engaged in that was identifiable, understandable and consistent with someone on might be on a pathway toward mounting an attack," Vossekuil adds.

In one of their interviews, in a psychiatric ward, Vossekuil and Fein talked to a man called "J.D."

"I was looking for a location where I could test fire the gun," J.D. told the researchers.

In the late 1980’s, J.D. stalked two presidents across the country, robbing banks to pay for the travel. What was his motivation?

"J.D. was a person who had dropped out of graduate school, who had served in the military, who became convinced that he had a choice to make, that aliens were ordering him either to kill innocent schoolchildren or to kill the president," Fein explains.

"He sounds too crazy to be a threat," Pelley remarks.

"Because he was quite organized, because he believed that he had this horrible choice. And the organization that he had to look normal, to explore security, to get weapons, to travel around the country that was quite chilling. Though if you talked with him, he was – he did not come across as a hostile, angry – fitting any stereotype of quote an assassin," Fein says.

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by karenburns2 April 22, 2007 7:58 PM PDT
You forgot a very important link between all the school shootings. All of these children were prescribed by doctors anti-depressants and other medications. Google the video "Prescription for Disaster" After Bowling for Columbine Michael Moore even admitted that both those boys were on prescription drugs. Is CBS allowed to report on this, even though you advertise for drug companies? I think that Americans need to be made aware of this common thread. When a doctor or teacher suggest to parents that their kids can concentrate more, but they can become suicidal or even killers I think this can make decision making alittle harder. You are a very good news show it would be nice to see you report on this.
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by hypnotoad72 April 22, 2007 8:23 PM PDT
Well, according the media of recent, somebody who is:

* depressed
* a loner
* psychotic
* an autistic (Asperger's Syndrome)
* bullied as a kid

and/or

* not eating the right foods

Is going to be branded as a potential mass killer.

Silly, isn't it?
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by booyaw_77 April 22, 2007 8:36 PM PDT
"You knew." I suppose you knew 9/11 too.. eh? You know everything. You knew as much as CNN does. As much FOXnews does. That this thing should have been seen 1,000 miles away! Like everything.. Yet yer never there when they need ya. Are ya..

Here's a poem fer yaz: "The less I talk the more people believe me. The more I say I told yaz so, the more I'm a doofus." Doesn't rhyme but, who says ya gotta rhyme to sound good?
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by booyaw_77 April 22, 2007 8:41 PM PDT
Why does misery attract such bad company? Huh? Why can't people be allowed to forget? Huh? There's nothing anybody coulda ever done about this. Nothing. No matter what they say. No matter what the headline. This is a free country, and in a free country, this is how it works. And there's no magic formula. There's no "special treatment". There's just tragedy. And nobody will let those people forget it. Screw Virginia State.. I gotta story. Unbelievable..
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by booyaw_77 April 22, 2007 8:45 PM PDT
There's only one thing that coulda been done. And you know it! Yet nobody wants to talk about it. They coulda stopped treating him like de ********** plague. And got to know him better. Dey coulda got off der ********** high horses, and humored him a little.. And get in on his act.. doing a little friendly 007. I mean, the guy had a room mate! Fer christ's sakes.. How de hell do you live with somebody knowing less than you guys do about him? Huh? HOW?!

Just shut de ********** up. De lott of yaz..
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by agnim April 22, 2007 8:57 PM PDT
These murderers/assassins/psychopaths are truly criminally insane and DEEPLY VIOLENT creatures.
The excuses given for their rampage are merely cover of the insanity.

No group in America has been as disrespected as the African people; yet we don't see these mass murders in retaliation by African Americans.

If merely being disrespected/neglected was reason to go on a rampage, African Americans should be on a rampage EVERY SECOND in America! LOL
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by dphaffner April 22, 2007 9:19 PM PDT
WHO are African people Agnim? You mean black folk ?
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by lawandorder6 April 22, 2007 9:29 PM PDT
No gun, no one dies. Get the guns.
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by tucano2 April 22, 2007 9:36 PM PDT
Typically the government agencies secure the services of freelance assasins when such services are thought to be needed. But they are only private businessmen and women. The ones to study are those who are on the public payroll who do authorize and pay for such services.
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by agnim April 22, 2007 9:56 PM PDT
"The ones (assassins)to study are those who are on the public payroll who do authorize and pay for such services.
Posted by tucanofulano at 09:36 PM : Apr 22, 2007"

Very good point!

The violent and destructive examples of the government assassins are GREATLY responsible for ordinary citizens see no reason to not play assassins themselves. The violent killers in the government are the 'teachers' the ordinary/borderline insane citizens emulate.
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by fascistusa April 22, 2007 10:11 PM PDT
I love the Anti-Gun nuts. Take away Guns and crime will magically disappear. Just wave that little wand, Merlin.

The biggest assassins ARE the Government employees: JFK, MLK, BFK, Malcolm X, John Lennon, Timothy McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, Waco, V Tech (you better believe The Government did V Tech), ect.

Our Country has changed already. We're headed for Civil War. The days of Lone Assassins being the few unbrainwashed people living outside the Mainstream Corporate TV/Radio/Magazine Brainwashing Culture are done.

AMERICA HAS AWOKEN.
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by cfin5 April 22, 2007 10:18 PM PDT
karenburns2, You hit the nail on the head! AD drugs should have been banned along time ago. I heard that some of them do the same thing to you as cocaine, just without the high. These guys could have been on this garbage since they were kids! I'm waiting to see the lawsuits start regarding these drugs.
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by rachelbrasso April 22, 2007 10:39 PM PDT
I am very disappointed in this story. Your guests were insinuating that once again Virginia Tech is responsible for what happened and/or that others knew. Cho was a very troubled boy who stopped speaking in high school as others teased him because of his Korean accent. In college, Virginia Tech students and professors reached out to him. They all tried to get him help, including his former roommate who contacted the authorities after Cho%u2019s suicide threat. After that incident with the authorities and the justice system, Cho realized that he had to remain silent. He didn%u2019t have friends nor did he speak, how was anyone supposed to know of his plans? If he did tell someone, what was going to be done with the current state of the mental health system? The problem is deeper than whether he told someone or who sold him the gun, rather there are multiple issues that need to be addressed. The first stop is do not blame Virginia Tech as the university is just as much a victim as the 32 killed and Cho himself.
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by alphaa10-2009 April 22, 2007 10:41 PM PDT
booyaw_77 said, "Why does misery attract such bad company? Huh? Why can't people be allowed to forget? Huh? There's nothing anybody coulda ever done about this. Nothing. No matter what they say. No matter what the headline. This is a free country, and in a free country, this is how it works... There's just tragedy..."
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Some readers will be tempted to ask, "Huh?" after reading your post. I suggest you find somebody who understands, and really can help. Don't put it off. You CAN choose how all this turns out.
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by vtalum87 April 22, 2007 10:58 PM PDT
One of the big reasons I chose Va Tech was due to it's unpretentiousness and nice atmosphere. I did not see one Mercedes or anything close to resembling cognac in my four years there. In reviewing all of the information on the shooting by Cho to date, I have seen plenty of evidence of students and faculty attempting to reach out to a deeply troubled person. It seems clear with the information we have, that Cho retreated to silence and islolation when help was attempted and he was on the radar screen in Fall 2005...and since that time in the last year he plotted and was silent. Although some help can be gleaned from your story, I find it not helpful in this case and somewhat disrespectful to the University. Va Tech experienced this tremendous tragedy from someone who was going to wreak this havoc wherever he went. Now, salt is poured into the wound with the insinuation that the University or fellow students are also responsible.

Forever a Hokie and proud former resident of Blacksburg.
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by jameskbachma April 22, 2007 11:02 PM PDT
Require classroom doors to be able to be locked from the inside. Also, have ropes available for escaping from upper-story windows. Finally, suggest that students carry non-lethal weapons. They are usually legal.
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by lnorigby April 22, 2007 11:26 PM PDT
No gun, no one dies. Get the guns.
Posted by lawandorder6 at 09:29 PM : Apr 22, 2007

Didn't the Germans take the guns from the Jews in Nazi Germany? Native Americans didn't have or use guns when they should have to keep us Europeans from stealing their lands and killling off their buffalo. No gun only makes one more helpless when another with a gun comes after the unarmed one.
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by lnorigby April 22, 2007 11:29 PM PDT
VA Tech sounds like it is populated by such wonderful students. I wish that boy Cho would have done this in high school where the people were treating him badly instead of killing VA Tech students that seem to have tried to make friends with and accept him. I wonder what his childhood in South Korea was like. Was he bullied there too, or did he get to belong until he got stuck in this country?
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by roadracer9x April 23, 2007 12:24 AM PDT
Didn't the Germans take the guns from the Jews in Nazi Germany?
Posted by LNorigby at 11:26 PM : Apr 22, 2007

Read your history. The Jews did not have any guns because they believed that Germany was a civilized and enlightened country and that nothing bad would happen to them. They had no use for guns nor would guns have saved any of them. The Nazis were very good at disguising their intentions to the Jews and the rest of the world for a long time.

Here%u2019s a novel idea. Make purchase and possession of bullets illegal. That will satisfy the intent of the 2nd Amendment and make it more difficult to kill people with guns.
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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 12:39 AM PDT
"In 81 percent of school shootings they studied, other kids knew in advance and said nothing. Today, the Secret Service is trying to figure out why with a new study due out in the next few months."

Well I'm no psychologist but my guess would be for the same reason Condi read the security briefing about the 9/11 possibility and couldn't anticipate the magnitude of the destruction - human beings are social creatures and it's not in our nature to think up horrific scenarios that have never occurred before in our area of the world. The US had never been attacked before 9/11. Kids don't think shootings are going to happen in their school by kids that they know.

It's the same kind of thought process that allows one to live on an earthquake fault line and think that the big one's not going to happen in one's lifetime - sometimes you lie to yourself because if you allow every possible threat no matter how horrific to reach the level of plausibility you'd have problems functioning.

Also, I think hindsight can be deceptive - like how many false positives would result from taking action on this profile of a bullied loner who talks about wanting to kill himself, or who owns a gun if you live in the South. And what's the plan for these kids if the majority of them would have course corrected on their own but now instead end up tagged as would-be shooters and under the watch of authorities . . .
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by rhs648 April 23, 2007 12:42 AM PDT
The Nazis passed laws prohibiting Jews from owning guns. Further, the Nazis were supprised that the Jews offered very little resistance. If a member of the gestapo were shot each time they entered the home of a Jew,there would have been thousands of dead gestapo members. Further, this might have encouraged the Jews to organize themselves and resist. Six million armed people could have killed hundreds of thousands of gestapo, soldiers, and nazis. An unarmed population is defenseless. Why allow onself to be a sitting duck?
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by rhs648 April 23, 2007 1:01 AM PDT
SamTheTVCat - Your analysis and insight is very thought provoking. You seem to have a grasp of what makes people tick.
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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 1:07 AM PDT
rhs648

And yet I lived on a major fault line for years - how dumb was that? lol ;)

Meh, I guess we're all just doing the best we can . . . all you kids at VT it wasn't your fault - take care of yourselves and good luck. We are all thinking of you and wishing you the best! :)
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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 1:15 AM PDT
"You forgot a very important link between all the school shootings. All of these children were prescribed by doctors anti-depressants and other medications. Google the video "Prescription for Disaster" After Bowling for Columbine Michael Moore even admitted that both those boys were on prescription drugs. Is CBS allowed to report on this, even though you advertise for drug companies? I think that Americans need to be made aware of this common thread. When a doctor or teacher suggest to parents that their kids can concentrate more, but they can become suicidal or even killers I think this can make decision making alittle harder. You are a very good news show it would be nice to see you report on this."
Posted by karenburns2

It turns out this idea caused suicide rates to skyrocket after doctors stopped perscribing anti-depressants to at-risk teens. Perhaps that's why nobody's wanted to touch on this angle . . .
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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 1:22 AM PDT
"Have you guys listened to those two psycho professors talk about how "they knew" everything? I think that there might be one possibility everybody's overlooked: They drove him to it. I mean, have you listened to those psycho professors? "I ain't gonna teach him."? "It's him or me."? What the hell is that?

You teach whoever pays tuition, sister!"
Posted by booyaw_77

Well this is like the chicken/egg debate (like what came first, the chicken or the egg). I guess one could speculate that if he really hated this prof as opposed to people in general then wouldn't he have targeted her instead.

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by rhs648 April 23, 2007 6:08 AM PDT
These two professors are not psycho. They knew this student had problems, made special arrangements to help him, and reported his strange behavior to the administration. Unlike high school, college professors are not expected to be disciplinarians. They are expected to transfer their knowledge to mature and interested students. My question is why the school kept this student. He certainly doesn't seem like the type of person a college should keep. When a university confers a degree upon a student, that student should meet the requirements and standards expected of a college graduate. Refusing to participate, refusing to answer questions when asked by a professor, and responding with "question mark" when asked for his name should have lead to dismissal from that university.
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by prelgovisk April 23, 2007 8:53 AM PDT
It is a lot easier to wear shoes than carpet the kingdom. If everyone expects psychologists to weed out students like this, they are just setting themselves up for another similar incident.

He paid his tuition and did not break any laws. You can't jail or expel someone because they are creepy. Lots of students come to class and don't participate. The only punishment for that is a bad grade.

At the end of the day, the only thing that can stop or minimize such horrendous crimes is to carefully follow security procedures, like locking doors after class begins or having armed security guards.
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by cathaleen April 23, 2007 9:21 AM PDT
You can get all the experts in the country and you still won't be able to stop someone from killing people if that is what they set out to do.

We are an open society with over 350 million people. It would impossible to stop.

We can start by doing little things like starting in grammar schools, teachers, along with parents, put a stop to the bullies who terrorize
others. So many times, the teachers do nothing to stop it. If you start with this, it may help prevent these horrific crimes. This is where the trouble starts. It may not be the answer, but it can help.
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by sandy19731 April 23, 2007 9:29 AM PDT
The line between suicide and homicide is very thin indeed. When someone doesn't care about their own life they usually don't care much about yours either. And, if they are angry or have an agenda we are in big trouble.

The suicide angle is very interesting and hasn't been focused on very much in the psychiatric literature as regards to homocide. We certainly see it in terrorist situations.
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by tkmclelland April 23, 2007 10:56 AM PDT
As an educator for 35 years and am currently responsible for safe schools in my district, I took much interest in your segment. Many eduators have so much on their plate right now that this is just one more thing to worry about; however, we need to be sensitive to these children hurting.
In Texas we are consumed by the TAKS test but we are a time bomb waiting to happen. Until we address the emotional needs of our children, we will never get them up to speed with learning. Wheather we like it our not, educators will need to be stand in parents with many.
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by jerry_in_va April 23, 2007 12:00 PM PDT
I think one needs to question not only why this student was allowed to remain in school while refusing to participate and follow instruction, but why he was admitted in the first place. Virginia Tech, while a public institution, is also a leading and prestigious university. As such, their admission requirements are geared to the acceptance of intelligent, well-rounded individuals. Admission is partially based upon demonstration of leadership skills, community service/volunteer activities, extra-curricular activities, hobbies, references. Every interview has indicated throughout his entire high school experience and continuing throughout college, this guy was a loner, never communicated with anyone and never participated in anything. Many of his fellow college students didn't even know if he spoke english. Who provided his references? Exactly what did the admissions department think they were getting when they accepted him? When you provide special policies for groups and individuals, you never know what you're getting in return. This is the 2nd time in as many years that Virginia Tech has been thrown into the national spotlight in other than a positive manner. It wasn't that long ago Marcus Vick tainted their image by stomping on an opponent's leg, engaged in underage sexual relationships, DUI and driving on suspended license, carrying a concealed weapon etc. It's time to end minority quotas and athletic academic exemptions.
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by booyaw_77 April 23, 2007 12:17 PM PDT
"Well this is like the chicken/egg debate (like what came first, the chicken or the egg). I guess one could speculate that if he really hated this prof as opposed to people in general then wouldn't he have targeted her instead."

Maybe, maybe not. The guys a loner. Possibly schizophrenic. Goes for help, and they release him. Now they got his records. His deepest, darkest, eccentric secrets. "Why is she treating me like this?"

How much of paranoia is real? How much of what a schizophrenic is afraid of is real? Not being accepted? Getting bad grades? Teachers who talk about him behind his back? Students? "They're stuck up." He said.

Could you give your only hearfelt confession and then the next day find out that everybody knows about it? And they're laughing at you?
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by booyaw_77 April 23, 2007 12:20 PM PDT
People talk about this guy as if he was this big secret. He wasn't a big secret. He lived there! He went to your behavioral psychologists! He told you! Everything! And there was no one. Not even a professor..

"I'm not worthless. I'm not a loser."
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by booyaw_77 April 23, 2007 12:26 PM PDT
HE EVEN SIGNED UP FOR YOU POETRY CLASS! What kind of an engineer signs up for a poetry class? Did he sign up for your poetry class to get kicked out of his engineering program? Huh? Is that why he wanted to be poetic? To get *** from the students AND the professors?! Huh?

If I were you, I wouldn't brag too much about the "I knew everything" if I were you.
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by booyaw_77 April 23, 2007 12:37 PM PDT
Its a common diagnosis is my point. Most schizophrenics get diagnosed their senior year in college. Thats when the auditory hallucinations? The paranoia? Everything comes out. Look it up! Its common.
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by booyaw_77 April 23, 2007 12:40 PM PDT
And when you mix a high school god damned "look at de geek" with final exams? And paranoia?

BOOM!!
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by gunownerdan April 23, 2007 2:40 PM PDT
Criminals Love Defenseless Victims
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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 3:41 PM PDT
Basically I guess ultimately what I would really want to say to anybody who feels alone and different is that ultimately who's opinion do you value more - the opinions or other people's or your own. But you have to believe in yourself - don't focus on other people and what they say because that gives their words power and yours can be more powerful if you believe in yourself. What is it about you that you like? What do you do well? What do you like to do? Do you like pets? Pets are great companions!

You know what might be a good start for anybody feeling alone and angry who might be reading this is to go pick up a copy of William Pollock's 'Real Boys' (the guy in the 60 Minutes piece) and read it cover to cover . . . he really understands . . . I hope this helps :)
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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 3:41 PM PDT
booyaw_77

I think sometimes people let their fear drive their actions instead of their heart and their head because even though others may look like they have it all together stress and confidence issues plague us all in a society where a socialite like Paris Hilton becomes a celebrity for making a ***-tape while the vast majority of us have to work hard and deal with lots of different people who have different agendas from ours to earn a living.

I think we all have tremendous gifts to offer society and sometimes we just have to believe in ourselves because sometimes others who look like they have it together have confidence problems too. Maybe the message from this piece is that we're never alone - the gunman was not alone even though he felt alone. Perhaps if he was schizophrenic and had managed to connect with other schizoprenics he would have seen that ultimately it wasn't anybody's fault and that the solution wasn't with guns but with medication from knowledgeable professionals.

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by samthetvcat April 23, 2007 3:41 PM PDT
booyaw_77

I think sometimes people let their fear drive their actions instead of their heart and their head because even though others may look like they have it all together stress and confidence issues plague us all in a society where a socialite like Paris Hilton becomes a celebrity for making a ***-tape while the vast majority of us have to work hard and deal with lots of different people who have different agendas from ours to earn a living.

I think we all have tremendous gifts to offer society and sometimes we just have to believe in ourselves because sometimes others who look like they have it together have confidence problems too. Maybe the message from this piece is that we're never alone - the gunman was not alone even though he felt alone. Perhaps if he was schizophrenic and had managed to connect with other schizoprenics he would have seen that ultimately it wasn't anybody's fault and that the solution wasn't with guns but with medication from knowledgeable professionals.

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by godofredo29 April 23, 2007 4:25 PM PDT
Okay, here we go again. There's nothing mysterious about suicide. Just go to www.cdc.com and their suicide fact sheet. Unfortunately, journalists can't seem to resist the temptation to practice their creative writing (which is why journalism degrees should be considered fine arts degrees). Caray!
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by godofredo29 April 23, 2007 4:40 PM PDT
Correction...www.cdc.gov.
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by ajblackwood April 23, 2007 4:54 PM PDT
I wonder whether CBS realizes how weird it sounds to have a piece like that with only a passing reference toward the end to access to guns. The mind of an assassin would be much less murderous if he had access to only knives and baseball bats rather than semi-automatic guns to kill with.
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by ajblackwood April 23, 2007 5:00 PM PDT
I wonder whether CBS realizes how weird it sounded to have a piece like that with only a passing reference toward the end to access to guns. The mind of an assassin would be much less murderous if he had access to only knives and baseball bats rather than semi-automatic guns to kill with.
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by ajblackwood April 23, 2007 5:13 PM PDT
I wonder whether CBS realizes how weird it sounded to have a piece like that with only a passing reference toward the end to access to guns. The mind of an assassin would be much less murderous if he had access to only knives and baseball bats rather than semi-automatic guns to kill with.
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by ajblackwood April 23, 2007 5:17 PM PDT
I wonder whether CBS realizes how weird it sounded to have a piece like that with only a passing reference toward the end to access to guns. The mind of an assassin would be much less murderous if he had access to only knives and baseball bats as weapons rather than semi-automatic guns.
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by ajblackwood April 23, 2007 5:22 PM PDT
I wonder whether CBS realizes how weird it sounded to have a piece like that with only a passing reference toward the end to access to guns. The mind of an assassin would be much less murderous if he had access to only knives and baseball bats as weapons rather than semi-automatic guns.
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by rhs648 April 23, 2007 6:50 PM PDT
The gun debate clouds the real issues. The shooter was mentally ill and everyone around him knew it. A judge had declared him incompetent. The system allowed this person to roam freely. State and Federal laws and court rulings make it very difficult to hospitalize a mentally ill person. A recent documentary on tv stated that 20 to 30 per cent of inmates are mentally ill. Yet, the authorities can not force mentally ill people to take medication. The reality is that the system failed the students. If this person was in a mental institution, the incident would not have happened. Certainly, there was fair warning. Once again, the system failed to protect the innocent
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by booyaw_77 April 23, 2007 7:10 PM PDT
"Perhaps if he was schizophrenic and had managed to connect with other schizoprenics he would have seen that ultimately it wasn't anybody's fault and that the solution wasn't with guns but with medication from knowledgeable professionals."

Well, getting the right cocktail for a schizophrenic is no easy task. In fact, its very difficult. No two people are the same. And it requires months and years to find out which medication works best for them. Seroquel and Zyprexa, and a heep of other medications, that are not only mysterious in their effect, but very very expensive. And none of them rid them of their hallucinations.

In any event, it seemed that there was a lot of time needed for attention that wasn't there. And in a whole bunch of areas, besides diagnosis. Maybe humor. Maybe Cho couldn't laugh at himself. Not in a university setting, and not with nobody to talk to. He took himself too seriously.
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