NEW YORK. April, 14, 2007

Global Warming Protests Held Across U.S.

More Than 1,300 Events Urged Congress To Require 80 Percent Cut In Emissions By 2050

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(AP)  Americans worried about climate change gathered Saturday on ski slopes and in cities for a nationwide day of demonstrations aimed at drawing attention to global warming.

More than 1,300 events were organized in every state under the banner Step It Up 2007 to push Congress to require an 80 percent cut in carbon dioxide emissions by 2050.

“When it comes to global warming, I don't exactly think President Bush is doing such a hot job,” said 12-year-old New Yorker Tiffany Cordero. “A lot of people are thinking just of now. But we won't have a 'now' if we don't focus on the future.”

Tiffany delivered a speech for a rally in lower Manhattan's Battery Park, overlooking New York Harbor, where people dressed in blue — some equipped with scuba gear and beach balls — gathered to form a Sea of People human line to symbolically mark New York's future coastline.

Scientists say melting polar ice caps and glaciers will cause ocean levels to rise, although estimates vary. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has projected that ocean levels will rise 7 to 23 inches this century, but other scientists warn the sea level could rise 10 feet or more, enough to flood Lower Manhattan and other low-lying coastal areas.

The threatened rise in the ocean also was dramatized by a New Coast Parade in Portland, Maine, one of more than 30 observances in that state. “The most important things that we have a responsibility to do in government are to prepare our children for a bright future and to preserve and protect our natural resources,” Maine Gov. John Baldacci told a gathering in Portland.

The nationwide events were spearheaded by a group of recent graduates from Vermont's Middlebury College, who organized a campaign of blogs, e-mail messages and word of mouth communications.

“We see this to be the most pressing issue of our time, and our generation,” said Will Bates, 23, one of six former Middlebury students who helped organize the event with author Bill McKibben, a scholar in residence at the college and among the first to write about global warming, in his 1989 book “The End of Nature.”

In Chicago's Daley Plaza, about 500 people listened to speeches from a panel of environmental experts who called for a reduction in carbon dioxide emissions. The crowd also waved signs exclaiming “Step it up Congress.”

In California, 200 hikers made a strenuous, hour-long climb up a steep canyon to a point just below the famous Hollywood sign.

“It takes real passion to make a big difference — strength in numbers,” said Kara Thurman of Santa Monica.

Earlier, hundreds gathered along Santa Monica's Third Street Promenade just east of the Pacific Ocean to listen to lectures and listen to makers of “green” products pitch their wares.

“We have such a wonderful planet and it is really tragic for us to ruin it with global warming,” said organizer Jim Stewart of Earth Day L.A. “The bottom line is everybody needs to be carbon-neutral.”

In one of the day's first demonstrations, skiers unfurled a protest banner in April snow on Whiteface Mountain near Wilmington, N.Y. Another group made an early morning hike to the summit of Maine's Cadillac Mountain, which is the first spot in the U.S. to be lit by the rising sun.

The Whiteface Mountain skiers fear long-term temperature increases promise trouble for native plants, wildlife and people in the Adirondack Mountains of northern New York state.

“It's subtle,” said Nola Royce, who has been going to the Adirondacks since 1971. For example, she said, the region's notorious, biting black flies are emerging earlier in the season.

Neil Woodworth, executive director of the Adirondack Mountain Club, said less obvious concerns about warming include pests moving northward. He mentioned tick-borne Lyme disease, now a problem farther south in Connecticut, New Jersey and southern New York, as well as the Sirex wood wasp, hemlock woolly adelgid and Asian longhorned beetle.

“All these tree eaters normally prefer more temperate climates than the Adirondacks,” Woodworth said. “And as the Adirondack climate gets warmer in the winters the below-freezing barrier that has held these pests at bay is going to be lost.”

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by egmd April 14, 2007 10:33 PM PDT
Funny how these global warming protestors are all wearing winter clothing in the middle of April.
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by rheola-2009 April 14, 2007 10:54 PM PDT

Let's hear it.
Come on Hawksprings, Jimfinster,Didntinhale and all of the other deniers, as well as those with the Al Gore mental block.

One of these days you will be overwhelmed by Global warming evidence, and yourselves will be willing members of the enlightened ones.
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by bushfan3 April 14, 2007 11:36 PM PDT
That is a really good question EGMD.
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by hawksprings April 14, 2007 11:48 PM PDT

rheola, what is the point of your post here?
This article contains no "evidence" proving human caused global warming. It's about a bunch of people protesting. It's not "proof" of anything other than the herd mentality of human beings.

I have no problem standing in the minority against the "consensus" to make my own prediction that the doom and gloom predictions of the global warming sheep will ultimately be proven wrong.

Besides, if you look more deeply in what most of the human-caused global warming experts are saying, it's already too late to stop the devastation that's supposedly already happening. We're already dead from Global warming, it's already ready a foregone conclusion.

For me, the saddest things about this Global warming fad are:
1. The increased control that the populace will willingly give over to government.
2. The children that will live in fear that they are going to die from it, and the guilt they will carry every time someone or some animal dies from a weather event, because they are being told it's their fault.

You will gladly give up your freedoms for the promise of safety.
You're being fooled.
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by cofmanaaron April 14, 2007 11:49 PM PDT
As a student in the field of paleoclimatology, I can answer EGMD's observation. As observed in temperature records over the last 50,000 years; during times of climate change, cooling or warming, which are relatively abrupt following long stretches of stability, the temperature readings become much more volatile and irregular than stable. In other words, warming or cooling do not occor in a straight line. More volatility, or exteme change in short time scales back and forth, is to be expected in a rapidly changing climate. My professor used the analogy that Earth's climate is like a stumbling drunk. Nudge it, and it wanders all over the place. In the long-term, a generally warmer climate is projected when using scientific analysis.
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by processor2 April 14, 2007 11:54 PM PDT
"global warming" !!! Yeah, right.

The Weather Channel is predicting 6 - 8 inches of global warming Sunday through Monday in the middle of April.

WooHoo
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by hawksprings April 14, 2007 11:57 PM PDT

Good night all, gotta get to sleep. It's FINALLY going to be warm enough tomorrow where I live so I can replace my front brakes.

Global warming's good for something I guess.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 12:02 AM PDT
Hawksprings

Here we go again. [my fault]

I consider you wrong on both points, and I can not see that I would have to give up any freedoms, as you suggest.
Maybe you could explain which freedoms, and at the same time if you do and/or any, why they would not be worth giving up for the freedom of a possible continued healthy and happy life, which if the so called prophets [like myself] of possible doom are correct.

By the way there are sheep on both sides.
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by cofmanaaron April 15, 2007 12:10 AM PDT
Do any of you people have one iota of science education, or do you all believe that only the things King George says to you are true and the scientific community is lying? As a geology undergraduate (taking paleoclimatology this semester), I can inform you, it's rock solid. The only people debating this are either die-hard neocons who lust after mid-east oil, so-called "experts" hired by oil companies to make wild anti-consensus statements with no scientific evidence to back it up, and your average I-don't-believe-in-science-because-evolution-calls- me-a-monkey conservative peabrain. When so many people still deny scientific reasoning, you know america's schools suck. Now about severity, yes, it likely can't be stopped, but we can still control how drastic this climate shift will be. It's a lot more long term than people think, but the danger is real and maybe if more people in this country had a brain we could save some lives over the next few decades from the effects of global warming by taking action now.
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by processor2 April 15, 2007 12:11 AM PDT
Vladimir Lenin's birthday 4/22/1869
The very first Earth day 4/22/1969

"global warming" !!! Yeah, right.

The Weather Channel is predicting 6 - 8 inches of global warming Sunday through Monday in the middle of April.

WooHoo

...
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by heyitsme_76 April 15, 2007 12:20 AM PDT
Processor2 - get your frickin head examined, you dumb moron.. such filthy ignorant numbskulls..
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by cofmanaaron April 15, 2007 12:21 AM PDT
processor2: what's your point? Does your (inflammatory) insinuation say that you believe conservation of natural resources and natural American treasures is un-patriotic, that since we're American that we have to listen to the Republicans and cut down all the forests, let industry pollute to its heart's content, and see the former beauty once present in this world die for the purpose of the rich getting richer. If you're a conservative, and you think enviromentalism was produced by communist liberals who hate America, I guess that's your position right?
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by egmd April 15, 2007 12:25 AM PDT
Cofmanaaron, the topic of global warming is one that is of particular interest to me, but I am not yet persuaded. There are scientists on both sides of the climate change debate that argue it is a real problem and then there are those who say it is not. I'd be interested to know if you had any credible links that support your claim that global warming is, in fact, real.
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by cofmanaaron April 15, 2007 12:27 AM PDT
processor 22: in regards to the 6-8 inches of snow you got, please read this, you just might learn something:
As a student in the field of paleoclimatology, I can answer EGMD's observation. As observed in temperature records over the last 50,000 years; during times of climate change, cooling or warming, which are relatively abrupt following long stretches of stability, the temperature readings become much more volatile and irregular than stable. In other words, warming or cooling do not occor in a straight line. More volatility, or exteme change in short time scales back and forth, is to be expected in a rapidly changing climate. My professor used the analogy that Earth's climate is like a stumbling drunk. Nudge it, and it wanders all over the place. In the long-term, a generally warmer climate is projected when using scientific analysis.
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by cofmanaaron April 15, 2007 12:32 AM PDT
Fact: those 'scientists' that you speak of are in fact in the employ of oil companies to get certain results. It is much like the studies that tobacco companies funded in the 20th century. There is an overwhelming consensus today about the reality of human-contributed global warming. Virtually zero out of all the peer-reviewed journals in the world challenge global warming, but many nonscientific derciers of global warming are given time in the media to 'give a balanced opinion', when in fact what that is doing is creating controversy where there really isn't any.
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by cofmanaaron April 15, 2007 12:35 AM PDT
My source: professor Peter Fawcett, UNM. Also there was a summit of the world's scientists a few weeks ago in Belgium where they settled this, it's real.
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by fascistusa April 15, 2007 12:39 AM PDT
Global Warming is a SHAM.

The American Elite love to see what nonsense they can get the American People to swallow.

Y2K. The Cold War. 9/11.

There were Protests in Russia today. Did that make CBSNBCABCCNN news?? Nope.
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by egmd April 15, 2007 12:40 AM PDT
Interesting, cofmanaaron. Thank you for your reply.
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by gunnerone2 April 15, 2007 12:41 AM PDT
The effects of climate change are already clear to anyone looking at the evidence. Although there are lots of people talking about it action seems to be minimal. I just hope we don't keep talking and do something before it's too late. I've cut back on driving and such as much as possible but it matters little unless a global effort is made. Especially India and China.
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by cofmanaaron April 15, 2007 12:50 AM PDT
fascistusa: by American elite, do you mean the worldwide scientific community? I certainly know some scientists at my college who certainly aren't 'elite' in financial terms. Besides, a little of it is the other way around, since Bush and his neoconservative base, some really wealthy people, are some of the biggest combatants against action against global warming. Don't say something is a sham if you are wholly ignorant on the subject.
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by hillaryin08 April 15, 2007 1:09 AM PDT
The Democrats have a real problem here. The Global warming crowd is taking the heat off of the Iraq debate. Which one will they choose? Who will be the liberal savior to deliver us from all of these things? Gore?, Hillary? Obama?

Stay tuned folks and in the mean time vote liberal
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by fascistusa April 15, 2007 1:36 AM PDT
Global Warming is to take you mind off Iraq.


Nothing more. Nothing more.

There was a time when people thought an "Ether" existed for light rays. People also thought the Earth was the center of the Universe. We also had a Dark Ages for HUNDREDS of years because people thought Jesus was coming back.

But sit right back and accept Fiction for Reality. Get worked up over nothing. Keep seeing things that DO NOT EXIST. Trust your Government.

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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 1:47 AM PDT
Cofmanaaron

It is indeed pleasant to see a rational person posting, makes a difference from some of the irrationality of the deniers, not all of course, but certainly some.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 1:55 AM PDT
Fascistusa

There were also many things in the past that people thought, that turned out to be correct, I notice you gave them no credit, maybe to do so would not suit your weak argument.
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by truthword April 15, 2007 2:14 AM PDT
Organized by the CIA, NSA, FBI, and their leader satan, dance little monkeys dance, al gore and the united nations need to make some money. Brainwashing at its finest.
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by truthword April 15, 2007 2:29 AM PDT
Jesus wasn't a tree hugger, God gave us dominion over the earth, plants, and animals. He didn't worship creation, he worshipped the creator.

"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness," says God in Genesis 1:26 "and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."


On the following day, when they came from Bethany, he was hungry. And seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to see if he could find anything on it. When he came to it, he found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. And he said to it "May no-one ever eat fruit from you again. . . . And as they passed by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered away to its roots. And Peter remembered and said to him, "Master, look! The fig tree which you cursed has withered." [Mark 11:12-25]
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by jimfinster April 15, 2007 2:45 AM PDT
Man, all the little skeptic monkeys are out in force!

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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 3:15 AM PDT
Jimfister

Comsidering the time of the day in your neck of the woods, they certainly are.
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by jimfinster April 15, 2007 3:22 AM PDT
rheola:

Yep, my bedtime too! I will check back in tomorrow, maybe have some fun with some of these flat-earthers...

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by godin6 April 15, 2007 7:17 AM PDT
I suggest you "religious environmentalits" educate yourselves through science.
Watch the global warming swindle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle


cows and dead leaves emit far more carbon dioxide then humans do. In addition carbon dioxide is less then 1 percent of the atmoshpere. The increased solar activity is driving up the temperature of the earth NOT US.

wake up people

stop acting like sheep
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by johngalt355 April 15, 2007 7:41 AM PDT
Just remember that Hillary & Gore are waiting in the wings to solve the problems of global warming! When
they are finished, they will have confiscated via
taxation any little savings that the average American has left & any remaining personal freedom.
Of course they will continue & expand their extravagant lifestyles augmented by power & public money.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 8:05 AM PDT
Godin6 and Johngalt355

What remarkably knowledgeable persons you two are. you have my sympathies.

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by crater7 April 15, 2007 9:11 AM PDT
FOX SPIN:
Anyone notice FOX News didn't think this News Item was important enough to cover?
Its funny how FOX seems to always put a positive spin on any news (bad) that concerns the Bush Administration, or GOP. For example:
Wolfowitz gets new lifeline in SCANDEL. It dont matter that the man broke the law, or rules, FOX, will always find a reason, or excuse for their actions.
I agree that a lifeline should be extended to Mr. Wolfowitz, but it should be a little short of target, and have a noose on the end of the rope. Same courtesy should be extended to all the other Bush administration CROOKS.
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by zykracosmos April 15, 2007 9:21 AM PDT
I knew I would see some hold-out rightwingers commenting in here, so I peeked in to see what snippets of misinformation they were using to try and deny the obvious. The bottom line is that CO2 is a powerful greenhouse gas, as can be illustrated in any science class, and we have added over 30% more to our atmosphere since the industrial revolution began in the late 1700s. Fluctuations in global temperatures in the past are directly correlated with CO2 levels. Natural events that cause heating and cooling of our climate can cause release or sequestering of CO2, sometimes to the level of spurring runaway warming or cooling. In the earth's history there is evidence of tropical conditions at the poles at one point, and there is alsoo evidence of the earth being frozen right down to the Equator during another period. C02 levels work like a spring. They help protect and resist wild fluctuations caused by changes in the sun, earth's orbit and rotation, and natural disasters like asteroids and massive volcanic eruptions. But at certain thresholds, CO2 accummulation or sequestering can add to the problem and trigger the runaway melting or freezing that leads to catastrophe and mass extinction of life forms. This is the first time that an organism on earth is the reason for such a massive carbon release. It may already be too late, but certainly we must act to slow down the damage, just to buy time for survival tactics.
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by processor2 April 15, 2007 9:30 AM PDT
Vladimir Lenin's birthday 4/22/1869
.The very first Earth day 4/22/1969

"global warming" !!! Yeah, right.

The Weather Channel is predicting 6 - 8 inches of global warming today through Monday in the middle of April.

WooHoo

...
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by grumpas April 15, 2007 9:32 AM PDT
the end may be much closer than you realize.
Ron Paul '08
Posted by t_barr

Your right we are populating ourselves straight into oblivion!!!!!! Thanks to you religious freaks who are ignorant enough to not believe in any form of birth control. They day is coming when the quality of life on this planet will be 0! There will be a human being on every square foot of this planet! Most of you had better hope this is what your God wanted!!!! Your going to be in deep s... if it isn't!
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by pianoman42 April 15, 2007 10:08 AM PDT
Wish folks would give their science credentials when they comment on GW.
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by rafterman1 April 15, 2007 10:25 AM PDT
""global warming" !!! Yeah, right. The Weather Channel is predicting 6 - 8 inches of global warming today through Monday in the middle of April."

That's OK. You keep believing your right wing politicans and the oil companies. I'll believe the thousands of climate scientists who say global warming is real. Only ignorant people will consider one or two freak events as proof of anything over decades of long term data.

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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 10:31 AM PDT
GW alarmist

Since you are not supplying remedies for GW, just trying to "data overload" anyone with an opposing point of view, which I can match...let me ask you a few questions.

Please sir, think on your own and tell be....in your own words, what YOU are doing to reduce GW?

What should the rest of the planet be doing to reduce GW? Do you really believe that changing light bulbs is going to reverse CO2 levels to preindustrial levels. Peer reviewed studies show CO2 levels lag global temps...what about that little peice of trivia?

Since we are relying on computer models to predict the future of weather patterns 20-30-50 years from now, with computers that currently are not capable of predicting with 50% certainty where a hurricane in the mid-Atlantic will land fall...please convince me that man has the data to produce algorithms of the infinite variables of our atmosphere that far out. You know as well as I do, man doesn't have that capability and where it can't, he puts in fixed data and assumptions. That is what is wrong with the with ALL GW alarmist and AGW deniers alike. Period. Dot.

After all, the hysterical bleating from your side are based on computer models predicting the end of the world as we know it...based on the woefully inadequate knowledge that man has about this blue ball called earth.

Please convince me we can predict the future....from the same folks that predicted the wide spread terror throughout the world AFTER Y2K.

Try again.
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by antoniof123 April 15, 2007 12:43 PM PDT
So let me get this straigh now that Global Warming has been proven the Reps want to take credit for it. They have for the last 30 years been the real reason for nothing getting done and some of you still try to blame the Dems. This is why I will never vote for a Reps ever again they have done nothing but lie Nixion now this what next they are going to say they are gods. I do not think we can handle a Reps in WH any longer I hate to say it but each day brings me closer to wanting this groupd impeached.
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by jimfinster April 15, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
dlpracer:

Your ignorance is astounding. Computer models are just a way to evaluate the long term effect of GW. The basic evidence is in the DATA used in the models. CO2 measurements, temperature measurements, ice melt rates, etc etc.

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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 1:10 PM PDT
jimfinste says:

Your ignorance is astounding. Computer models are just a way to evaluate the long term effect of GW. The basic evidence is in the DATA used in the models. CO2 measurements, temperature measurements, ice melt rates, etc etc.

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I will slow down so you can understand the facts. The DATA is incomplete by any measurement. Humans have an extremely limited amount of data points to draw from. We have only had equipment: thermometers, barometers, set measuring points across the globe...for a blink of an eye in the grand scheme of weather time.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to take that limited historical data and the inability of today's computers to accurately calculate the 5 million varibles that our atmosphere (conservative estimates) can create and predict what many GW alarmist (algore included) say is going to happen in 10-20-30 years. Those are FACTS.

If you want another display of current science ignorance...try disputing what I said...besides "YOU'RE ignorant"....which is a NON-answer.

You're just demostrating your inability to deal with the randomness of life and the world we occupy.

Try again.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 1:20 PM PDT
....PLUS

Page two of the CURRENT IPCC report states:

"The statements presented here are based largely on data sets that cover the period since 1970." This is also stated at least one other place in the report.

Can't anyone see the fallacy in using data from 1970 on. The 70s were when global COOLING was the rage. So we come out of a period of cooling, start warming up and these lunatics take the last 30 years of warming and project them into the future.

An incredible display of political arrogance...cause it ain't science.

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by fascistusa April 15, 2007 1:36 PM PDT
TAKE YOUR MIND OFF IRAQ!!!

WE'll GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT!!

Now I know how people come to accept stupid ideas like -

The Earth is Flat.

Or the new one -

Jesus is coming back if you start a WAR in the Middle East.

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by scottlsf April 15, 2007 1:48 PM PDT
Global warming has been going on for thousands of years! Hello, the great lakes and most of the mid-west were all under ice at one time!

I do think we need to start cleaning up our act and find other means for fuel, but where are the scientists who feel this is part of the earth%u2019s cycle? Why have they been silenced?

Why are Americans buying into the media-hype about global warming? Of course we are warming! As I stated, we have been for thousands of years! Ask where the scientists who do not believe that this is dooms day for the planet to have their voice heard! Why is there only one side to this story being printed? This is not true journalism; this is hype and chasing for ratings!

Every story has two sides; we are not hearing the other side on global warming!
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by gochip April 15, 2007 1:52 PM PDT
I remember all the hype about global cooling in the 70's. We had an ice age coming!
Now it is warming. The weather is always changing.
There is so much frenzy and so little science involved in this blind movement it is truly scary. Yes, CO2 and temps are connected. But it is backwards.
CO2 FOLLOWS global warming - it does not created it.
Check the ice records! Or greatest warming trend in the last century was the first 40 years of the 1900's. We used little CO2 then. The next 40 years - when we exploded our CO2 use temperatures dropped - and we had the global cooling scare. Duh. Is something a little backwards here?
Hey- could the "sun" have anything to do with the cooling and warming cycles? I mean have you checked the coincidence of sunspots, cloud cover, and global warming for the last 500+ years?
Could all the shill global warming cries have another agenda not so apparent - since science is NOT supporting it? Check the bandwagon you are riding on....
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by jimfinster April 15, 2007 2:03 PM PDT
"I will slow down so you can understand the facts. The DATA is incomplete by any measurement. Humans have an extremely limited amount of data points to draw from. We have only had equipment: thermometers, barometers, set measuring points across the globe...for a blink of an eye in the grand scheme of weather time.
dlpracer:"

Unfortunately, those are your personal set of facts. Scientists actually have multiple lines of evidence that go far back beyond written records. One example: ice cores provide data going back at least 600,000 years. But you would not know that, because you have never studied the subject....

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by scottlsf April 15, 2007 2:05 PM PDT
That is correct, silenced! You can search online to read information from the scientists who do not feel this is dooms day but it is rarely if at all printed in the main-stream media. As I said; there are two sides to every story and true journalism would print both sides of the story if it were not trying to hype up something that may be a normal cycle the earth is going through.
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by jimfinster April 15, 2007 2:08 PM PDT
It is sad to see the skeptic continue with the same old lines:

"temperature leads CO2"
"too complex to model"
"cooling was predicted in the 70s"
"iceland used to be temperate"

sad sad sad...

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by scottlsf April 15, 2007 2:19 PM PDT
jimfinster, I thank you for your postings! Those of us who feel the media is making this out to be MORE than it really is, need to continue to speak out! Thank you again~!
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