NEW YORK, April 15, 2007

Northeast Slammed By Rare April Storm

Hundreds Of Flights Canceled As High Winds, Heavy Rains, Snow Slam Mid-Atlantic States, New England

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    At least one person was killed and several were injured in the Dallas-Fort Worth area in Texas where tornadoes dropped out of an intense storm system overnight. Hari Sreenivasan reports.

    • Pedestrians push against the wind and rain as they cross the road April 15, 2007 at Astor Place in New York City. The nor'easter is expected to deliver some of the worst flooding to coastal areas in 14 years. Photo

      Pedestrians push against the wind and rain as they cross the road April 15, 2007 at Astor Place in New York City. The nor'easter is expected to deliver some of the worst flooding to coastal areas in 14 years.  (Getty Images/Chris McGrath)

    • A car abandoned by the driver sits in water that overflowed the banks of the Cooper River along South Park Drive, Sunday, April 15, 2007, in Collingswood, N.J. In the background is the new boathouse. Photo

      A car abandoned by the driver sits in water that overflowed the banks of the Cooper River along South Park Drive, Sunday, April 15, 2007, in Collingswood, N.J. In the background is the new boathouse.  (AP)

    • Amanda Rymer, left, and her husband Nelson Decker survey the damage to their carport and garage area, rear, after a tree was knocked down onto it by a severe storm that swept through the area in Haltom City, Texas, Friday, April 13, 2007. Photo

      Amanda Rymer, left, and her husband Nelson Decker survey the damage to their carport and garage area, rear, after a tree was knocked down onto it by a severe storm that swept through the area in Haltom City, Texas, Friday, April 13, 2007.  (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

    • City of Decatur public works employee Wayne Cavage uses a pitch fork to clear a street drain after a heavy rain Saturday, April 14, 2007, in Decatur, Ala. Photo

      City of Decatur public works employee Wayne Cavage uses a pitch fork to clear a street drain after a heavy rain Saturday, April 14, 2007, in Decatur, Ala.  (AP Photo/The Decatur Daily)

    • Tornadoes in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area caused extensive damage Friday, with two deaths reported. Photo

      Tornadoes in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area caused extensive damage Friday, with two deaths reported.  (CBS)

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(CBS/AP)  A nor'easter battered the East with strong wind and pouring rain Sunday, grounding hundreds of airline flights, downing power lines and threatening severe coastal flooding overnight.

The storm flooded people out of their homes in the middle of the night in West Virginia and trapped others. Some New Jersey shore residents evacuated, and officials in Connecticut urged some residents along the Long Island Sound to do the same. Inland areas from upstate New York to Maine faced a threat of heavy snow.

One person was killed in South Carolina as dozens of mobile homes were destroyed or damaged by wind. The storm system already had been blamed for five deaths on Friday in Kansas and Texas.

Storm warnings and watches were posted all along the East Coast, with coastal flood watches from Maryland to Maine through at least Monday morning.

More than 5.5 inches of rain fell in the New York region Sunday, shattering the record for the date of 1.8 inches set in 1906, according to the National Weather Service. Weather service meteorologist Gary Conte said Sunday night's high tide was likely to bring coastal flooding on Long Island and in parts of New York City.

Connecticut's emergency management commissioner, James Thomas, was expecting most of the problems to come Sunday night with the high tide.

"We are prepared to deliver sandbags, assist with an evacuation, or whatever we need to do," Thomas said. "We're kind of all sitting back, getting prepared and hoping it doesn't get as bad as it has been in different parts of the country."

In New York, flooding stalled traffic along parkways and forced residents in at least one Queens neighborhood to paddle through streets in boats. In the coastal Seagate section of Brooklyn, which suffered major flooding in a December 1992 nor'easter, residents placed sandbags in the streets.

"Everybody remembers that (1992 storm)," resident Jose Serrano said. "Everybody's home got ruined. Some houses got underwater. It was up to your stomach."

More than 400 flights were cancelled in the New York region — over 80 in Philadelphia and 70 in Boston, reports CBS News correspondent Randall Pinkston.

Fire Island Ferries suspended service to the island, off the south shore of Long Island, and the Metro-North Railroad suspended service on its Harlem and New Haven lines for several hours because of flooding in the Mott Haven section of the Bronx.

The Coast Guard had warned mariners to head for port because wind up to 55 mph was expected to generate seas up to 20 feet high, Petty Officer Etta Smith said in Boston.

A tornado touched down in the central part of South Carolina, killing one person, seriously injuring four others and cutting a 300-yard swath of destruction in Sumter County, officials said. A second tornado touched down near Lynchburg.

In New Jersey, 16 roadways throughout the state were either partially or fully closed and traffic lights were malfunctioning in some areas, Kris Kolluri, state Transportation Commissioner, said late Sunday afternoon.

In Sea Bright, New Jersey, the storm, which picked up power as it headed over the ocean, pounded the area with heavy rains and wind gusts of more than 50 mph, reports CBS News correspondent Bianca Solorzano.

"This is going to be bad," Shaun Rheinheimer said as he moved furniture to higher spots at his house on New Jersey's Cedar Bonnet Island.

The storm caused flash flooding in the mountains of southern West Virginia, where emergency services personnel rescued nearly two dozen people from homes and cars in Logan and Boone counties early Sunday. Two people were unaccounted for and others were trapped in their homes.

"Our houses sit in the middle of the hill, and it's all around us. I'm surrounded, it's like a lake completely around us," said Samantha Walker, 29, who was visiting her grandmother in Matheny. "We can't get out even if we wanted to get out."

The storm forced the postponement of six major league baseball games Sunday — the most in a single day in a decade — and gave runners in Monday's Boston Marathon something to worry about besides Heartbreak Hill. The race-day forecast called for 3 to 5 inches of rain, start temperatures in the 30s and wind gusts of up to 25 mph.

Heavy rain and thunderstorms extended from Florida up the coast to New England on Sunday. Wind gusted to 71 mph at Charleston, S.C., the weather service said.

Major flooding was forecast in parts of eastern and central Pennsylvania, where some rivers already were above flood state Sunday night.

Thousands of electricity customers lost power in states including New York, Connecticut, New Jersey and North Carolina.

Rain dumped 3 inches on eastern Kentucky, where a 50-foot section of highway collapsed near Pikeville, said State Police Sgt. Jamey Kidd. No vehicles were caught by the collapse, he said.

In central Florida, a tornado damaged mobile homes in Dundee but no injuries were reported, police said.


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by mcvet April 14, 2007 9:15 AM PDT
Now according to the reasoning of Pat Robertson, this is God Punishing this state for George W. Bush. I doubt he would tell you that though since bad weather is only applied as a punishment for being "liberal". ROFLMAO Now read what I wrote folks and realize that it is NOT a joke but is as real as the letters in the post. Sieg Heil and Amen.
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by netadmin1-2009 April 14, 2007 10:14 AM PDT
Mcvet - I know you aren't blaming Bush for this weather - If so, you've lost it.
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by bhappy2-2 April 14, 2007 1:31 PM PDT
I'm watching Headline News and they just ran a story about FEMA dumping MRE's because they stockpiled too much after Katrina. Why don't they haul them to Texas and pass them out to the people there? It makes more sense than destroying them. They could sell them to hunters, hikers or fishermen and recoup some of the millions they are losing. STUPID FEMA DUMBSHITS! This is OUR money they are wasting, OUR citizens going without because they can't use their common sense.
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by hawksprings April 14, 2007 1:32 PM PDT

MyOpinion1, you gotta understand that there's a new religion in town. The Church of Global Warming Hysteria.

- There's a leader of this religion: The Pope is the Holy Father Algore.
- There's worship: You worship Algore as he sits by his heated smimming pool next to the mansion he's owned for years and plans to *someday* install solar panels.
- There's Morality. The Holy Father Algore has decreed that Global Warming is no longer a scientific issue, it's a moral issue.
- There's sin: The ultimate sin is to deny human-caused global warming. Sinners are ridiculed by saying they are owned by Big Oil and are rightwing religious flatearthers.
- Other sins are to point out the Holy Father Algore's conspicuous consumption of energy and profiteering.
- There's a Devil: Big Oil. And it's demons are Bush, Cheney, and anyone who denies the reality of Human-caused Global Warming.
- Salvation: You earn salvation by driving a Prius, cutting back on your consumption, and feeling really bad when a hurricane or tornado kills someone, because you are the one who caused it.
- There's the brainwashing element of repitition of predictions until they are taken as facts.
- There's the End of the World scenario. Unless you kneel at Algore's altar at the heated pool, and confess your sins and change your ways, you're responsible for destroying the planet.

It's quite the religion. Are you a member yet?
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by docadams3 April 14, 2007 2:05 PM PDT
Looks like God smote them.
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by crkahme April 14, 2007 2:58 PM PDT
You are reporting that a nor'easter is coming. You are misinformed. What is arriving is indeed, a sou'wester. The wind direction is the clue. Please make your information count. Be corredt.
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by r-u-kidding April 14, 2007 4:55 PM PDT
The title of the article says it's about the midwest, but all the pictures and captions are about Texas. And the first two paragraphs talk about the gulf coast states. I think someone at CBS needs a geography lesson because neither the gulf states or Texas is part of the midwest.
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by rheola-2009 April 14, 2007 5:58 PM PDT
Singingrick

Superman was also supernatural, he was a bit hard to grasp also, wasn't he.
Maybe he and your Supernatural being/non being live in the same abode.
Along with Zeus, Neptune, Hera, Poiseiden, etc etc.

There have been so many of these supernatural beings/non beings.
I suppose those who believed in the above, are looking rather silly now, as they burn forever in Hell.

Maybe if you were not so ridiculous in your pronouncments, you might gain a little more credibility, and have some people be interested in what you say.
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by mitch0927 April 14, 2007 6:05 PM PDT
All you people out there that are trying to come up with a reason, how about you just call it spring time weather. I am from Oklahoma and this ahppens every year. GET IT A GRIP PEOPLE......
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by rheola-2009 April 14, 2007 6:09 PM PDT
Mitch0927

Good on you
You are probably more on the mark than any of the others.

Hawkspings
Same old head in the sand arguments again.

Enjoy your evening all.
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by processor2 April 14, 2007 6:10 PM PDT
Vladimir Lenins' birthday: 4/22/1869

The very first EarthDay was 4/22/1969

Coincidence???? - Yeah,right.

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by jimfinster April 14, 2007 6:35 PM PDT
processor2:

I have seen you post that same Vladimir/EarthDay stuff before. You should really just give it up. The world is full of coincidences that mean NOTHING.







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by hawksprings April 14, 2007 9:14 PM PDT

rheola, it's 'head in the snow'.
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by rheola-2009 April 14, 2007 9:17 PM PDT
Hawksprings

Yes I imagine so, you are not exactly at sea level are you.

Had a bit of a look on the web at your area, could handle it without a problem, except maybe winter

Cheers.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 1:44 AM PDT
Singingrick

I am pleased for you and your families sake that they are safe and well, they are among the more fortunate.

We shall continue agreeing to disagree.

All the best for now.
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by dog-x8 April 15, 2007 3:05 AM PDT
HI SINGINRICK, Just want you to know I agree with everything you said 100%!!! I guess we're just a couple of "KOOKS", But we'll be a couple of kooks in Heaven when it's all over.lol You know the old saying,"He who laughs Last, laughs the hardest!" I'm glad your family is OK after the storm. I will be saying a prayer for them!
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by processor2 April 15, 2007 9:33 AM PDT
Vladimir Lenin's birthday 4/22/1869
..The very first Earth day 4/22/1969

"global warming" !!! Yeah, right.

The Weather Channel is predicting 6 - 8 inches of global warming today through Monday in the middle of April.

WooHoo

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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 11:46 AM PDT
HawkSprings

How do you know what Al Gore has or doesn't have. Like how do you know he doesn't already have solar panels?
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by xpozrap April 15, 2007 12:37 PM PDT
SHUT THE FU(K up singinrick - god can't you fu(king zealots talk about ANYthing else?????? It's WEATHER you loser....
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by hawksprings April 15, 2007 12:46 PM PDT

erasmus6, when the story broke about Algore's huge mansion in Tennessee a couple months ago, it was told that he bought the mansion a few years before he made his documenscary. This past February when his hypocrisy was uncovered, one of his spokescreen people said he 'is planning' on putting solar panels on it. If he's so worried about human caused Global warming, why didn't he put solar panels on it when he bought it?
Another classic case of a liberal telling us, "Do as I say, not as I do."

Then just last week a sign appeared in his front yard saying that his property is applying for a variance to get permission to install solar panels... at least 12 years after he bought the property.
http://www.ecotality.com/blog/author/bill/ is the link.
The meeting is this Tuesday if you want to attend.

Nothin like the spotlight of truth to make a hypocritical dembot squirm.
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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 2:54 PM PDT
didntinhale

I believe that it is probably people like you that are causing the pollution and global warming.
And I also believe that it is you trolling these boards every minute of the night and day, which explains YOUR insanity.
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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 3:04 PM PDT
HawkSprings

I do not believe that Al Gore should have more that one home. No one should have more than one home, celebrities included. But at the same time, everyone lives in the manner they are accustomed. I don't think anyone including you is going to move from where you are and downgrade to a lesser home. What they will do is make changes in their homes and lifestyles. Al Gore lives higher than we do and therefore puts out more money than we do. SO he also has only so much money at one time in which to do things with. He probably has been doing things, but you can only do so much at one time. And I would say he probably has been a pretty busy boy trying to get all this information out to us, considering no one else has bothered to do it. And he is still probably pretty busy. To make changes, it takes TIME AND MONEY. I doubt he has a never ending supply.
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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 3:26 PM PDT
I know one thing for sure, MY children are not going to look back and think that they had LOSERS for parents.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 5:06 PM PDT
Erasmus

You are wasting your time with some of these totally closed mind persons.

Some have such an Al Gore mental block their own mental abilities do not allow them to see beyond him, they are completely defunct of any original thought, and can only contiually parrot what they have posted over and over again in the past, or as they are unable to come up with some originality, because of limited thought processes, they just copy what others have said

I see some have also resorted to name calling, certainly that shows their inability to promote a rational argument, of course they by doing so destroy their own pathetic attempt.

This Storm at present passing through the States, is a perfect example of the type of extreme weather events, the climatologists have been warning of, and a perusal of such happenings throughout the world, will show they are happening on a rapidly increasing basis, a further example of the weakness in the argument of these deniers.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 5:26 PM PDT
rheola says:

That storm passing through the U.S. at present is exactly what the climatologists have pointed out repeatably, that would be, and is proving to be, so many times, on an increasing scale throughout the world.

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...and it is people like you that are dangerous. Everytime there is anything short of a perfect 75 degree, light wind, cloudless day...you will blame it on GW. Pity the poor children of today's hysterics that will never be able to enjoy a thunderstorm, one of nature's great light shows, because they will have been brainwashed into thinking that the end is near...tsk, tsk.

How do you explain this storm in 1888...well before SUV's and Al Gore???

The Great Blizzard of 1888 (March 11 %u2013 March 14, 1888) was one of the most severe blizzards in United States recorded history, with snow drifts in excess of 50 feet. All across the eastern seaboard there were snow walls up to 50 inches high.

That is recorded HISTORY....with pictures if you care to look it up.

Tornados are a way of life this time of year and have been for centuries. Let's recall the Super Outbreak of April 3, 1974 that killed 315, and injured 5000 people. There were Here is the tornado count by severity: F5 6, F4 23, F3 35, F2 30, F1 31, F0 23. All in one day. It extensively damaged approximately 900 square miles along a total combined path length of 2,600 miles.

By the way, that was during the media's global COOLING frenzy.

Try again.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 5:35 PM PDT
April 15, 1921 - Two mile high Silver Lake, CO, received 76 inches of snow in 24 hours, the heaviest 24 hour total of record for North America. The storm left a total of 87 inches in twenty-seven and a half hours.

April 15, 1949 - A hailstone five inches by five and a half inches in size, and weighing four pounds, was measured at Troy NY.

Oops, that doesn't gell with the hysterics.

How about...

1851 - The famous "Lighthouse Storm" raged near Boston Harbor. Whole gales and gigantic waves destroyed Minot Light with its two keepers still inside. The storm resulted in great shipping losses and coastal erosion.

1944 - California experienced its worst hailstorm of record. Damage mounted to two million dollars as two consecutive storms devastated the Sacramento Valley destroying the fruit crop.

Try again.



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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 5:38 PM PDT
Dipracer

Be a little original, don't post the same item on two boards.
Mine is similar, but certainly not a copy.
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by mainemade April 15, 2007 5:38 PM PDT
Here we go again! Another "Perfect Storm".
As someone who has grown up on the coast of Maine..been here, done this. Batton down the hatches and bring it on. We know how to prepare for the power outages, proved it right before Easter. That one gave us no power for 36 hrs and no phone for 24. Did it bother me? No. This is just one of the many features of my place called home.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 5:41 PM PDT
May 12, 1972 - In Texas, A cloudburst dumped sixteen inches of rain north of New Braunfels sending a thirty foot wall of water down Blueders Creek into the Comal and Guadalupe Rivers washing away people, houses and automobiles. The flood claimed 18 lives and caused more than twenty million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

May 4,1917 - A late season snowstorm in northwest Texas produced up to eight inches of snow in Potter County and Armstrong County.

May 5, 1917 - The same storm which a day earlier produced eight inches of snow in the Texas panhandle, produced a foot of snow at Denver CO, their heaviest snow of record for the month of May. (David Ludlum)

I hate it when the facts get in the way....

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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 5:44 PM PDT
Dipracer

Be a little original, don't post the same item on two boards.
Mine is similar, but certainly not a copy.

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It's the SAME BOARD....different title.

I appreciate you looking out for me, everyone needs a control-freak to keep them between the lines.

Good grief...get a life.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 5:49 PM PDT
Dipracer

Whatever you say old fellow, I shall attempt to get one of those, in order that I may enjoy same.

Maybe it is the same board, different title, but still a duplication in two different places.

You enjoy that life you have got.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 5:56 PM PDT
Mainemade

You are probably closer to the point than any other of us.

Batten down the hatches and enjoy the lightening display.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 5:57 PM PDT
April 2, 1975 - The northeastern U.S. was in the grips of a severe storm which produced hurricane force winds along the coast, and two to three feet of snow in Maine and New Hampshire. Winds atop Mount Washington NH gusted to 140 mph.

April 2, 1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather in North Carolina and Virginia during the afternoon and evening. Thunderstorms produced golf ball size hail, and spawned a tornado near Chester VA which caused half a million dollars damage. A storm system produced snow and gale force winds across northern Michigan, with 8.3 inches of snow reported at Marquette. Temperatures in the north central U.S. soared from morning lows in the 20s and 30s to afternoon highs in the 60s and 70s. Eight cities reported record highs for the date, including Havre MT with a reading of 77 degrees.


Get the drift....there is NOTHING RARE or UNUSUAL about the weather going on today. Just GW hysterics trying to make hay to drive their myths of pending gloom and doom.

Try again

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by hawksprings April 15, 2007 6:36 PM PDT

rheola, you say this storm is a "perfect example that climatologists have been warning about," but the truth is, as dlpracer has been posting, there have been major spring storms before, many worse than this.
So what proof do you have that this storm is a perfect example of human-caused global warming?

What caused all these horrible spring storms in the past before Algore came along??

Please enlighten us.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 6:54 PM PDT
Hawksprings

I will not attempt to enlighten you, that requires an open mind on the person to be enlightened, unfortunately we all have a bias, which closes our minds in part to any opposing argument, that may not be agreeable with our line of thought. I am like all, guilty in that respect also.

However the events in past as Dipracer portrayed, did happen, I presume of course he is using factual material, as he really has no reason to do otherwise.
But these events, world wide including the U.S.,but not just in the U.S., are happening on a rapidly increasing scale.

I do not attempt to provide statistical info to back up any of my arguments, though there are mountains of it available, simply because of the bias statement above, irregardles of how much we may attempt to avoid doing so, we will in the end portray those items that will suit our own particular situation.

I hope in some way that explains my way of thinking.

How did you go with the brake repair job.
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by inventagod April 15, 2007 7:20 PM PDT
Overheard in Crawford this morning...

"Hello, ASSociated Press - this is president George Bu$h. I gonna need some photo-ops in New York again, no, I am not doing another 9/11, there is going to be a terrible storm with flooding... No, god did not tell me this, I heard it on the radio. No, not on TV, there might be protesters on TV so I don't watch that evil box. Anyway, gonna need some pitcher-takers 'cause I'm gonna need to be on the news, flooding might make a bunch of people die. FEMA?, no I haven't talked to them... Why?"
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by knyghtwolf April 15, 2007 8:32 PM PDT
Since the major differences are in how we get information now versus in the early 20th century, it stands to reason that temp changes are not going to be the same since weather patterns change due to all the variences described in global warming. You have to take in account that earthquakes, shifts in air pockets above the earth, and the rise in temps due cause subtle shifts that are indications of much worse to come, what we saw and experienced in the early 20th century is a preview of what's to come, sort of like the highlights of an upcoming motion picture feature everyone is anticapating, except this is for real. We have contributed to this yes, but on a much smaller scale than depicted. What ever happens will happen, there is nothing we nor any government on earth can do to change it. We just have to weather it out as best we can.
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by hawksprings April 15, 2007 8:34 PM PDT

rheola, the brakes went fine, had my 15 yr old son do it with me.

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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 8:44 PM PDT
rheola

I think these people just watch their local news or something and then only with half a brain.
They obviously only see what they want.


HELLO! is there anybody home?
We are not talking about a big storm in 1917, and another in 1970, blah, blah, blah. It is like rheola said, the storms, floods, hurricanes etc. are becoming WAY more frequent and WAY more severe all over the world. WAKE UP!
Like typical Americans you only see what is happening in your little corner of the world and then like I said, only with half a brain!
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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 8:53 PM PDT
Also it isn't just a matter of them becoming more severe and frequent, it is the matter of places and countries that have never seen snow, are now getting it. People that never had hurricanes, are now getting them, the same for tornadoes and flooding.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 9:09 PM PDT
Erasmus

You will be upsetting people with that tone.

Earlier in another site on this board it was suggested that I was a kneecapper, goodness, I am a reformed person, have not done such things for many years.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 9:15 PM PDT
erasmus6 says:

Also it isn't just a matter of them becoming more severe and frequent, it is the matter of places and countries that have never seen snow, are now getting it. People that never had hurricanes, are now getting them, the same for tornadoes and flooding.

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Sorry,

There is ZERO evidence as to what you state. I can list event after event that makes ANYTHING that is happening today pale in comparision.

Both of you are blurting our false statements to make your point. However, you are consistant with the other GW alarmist that resemble tent revivalist trying desparately to get their gloom and doom story to the unaware.

Try again
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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 9:17 PM PDT
rheola

Yes, sometimes when I get mad, I get carried away and say things I shouldn't. I just get very frustrated when people can't see the obvious.

What is a kneecapper?
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by erasmus6 April 15, 2007 9:23 PM PDT
dlpracer

Over the last, I don't know how many years, when I have been watching the news, there has been many times that I have heard that certain places that have never had snow, tornadoes etc. have got them. Please do not tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I know what I heard.
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by rheola-2009 April 15, 2007 9:29 PM PDT
Dipracer

Read my posting of 6.54pm, if you regard myself as one of that both you mention, I suggest you get your act together,. and have a look in your own backyard.
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by dlpracer April 15, 2007 9:30 PM PDT
I won't hold my breath waiting for your current weather facts to beat these....

And in 1936, the deadliest heat wave in Canadian history hit Manitoba and Ontario. For almost two weeks in July, temperatures more than 44C left 1,180 Canadians dead, mostly infants and the elderly. Four hundred of those drowned seeking refuge from the heat. According to Environment Canada, the heat was so intense that steel rail lines and bridge girders twisted, sidewalks buckled, crops wilted, and fruit baked on trees.

1923: Marble Bar in Western Australia experiences 160 consecutive days of maxima reaching or exceeding 37.8 0C (100 0F) from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924.[24]

July-August 1936: A heat wave across the Midwest and Northeast U.S. claims 5,000 lives. Record temperatures from this event still stand across fifteen states.

Try again.


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by hawksprings April 15, 2007 9:50 PM PDT

dlpracer, you're making excellent point with your storm history data, but you are missing the point.

Human-caused Global Warming is a religion with these guys, so you can't convince them with historical facts. Their prophets are the infallible scientists who are predicting Doom and Gloom. Their Holy Father is Algore. And in their mind, the debate is over. According to the Holy Father, Global Warming is now a moral issue.

You are an infidel. Give up before you are sidelined.
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by hawksprings April 15, 2007 9:56 PM PDT

It could have been 212 degrees in the 1930's in Canada and the Global Warming Sheep would still say it's worse now.
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by jimfinster April 15, 2007 10:00 PM PDT
HawkSprings:

flat-earther
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by hawksprings April 15, 2007 10:03 PM PDT

flat feet too.
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