NEW YORK, April 13, 2007

CBS Poll: Giuliani, Clinton Pad Leads

McCain Support Slips; GOP Voters Increasingly Dissatisfied With Choices

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(CBS)  Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani has widened his lead over Arizona Sen. John McCain in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, according to the latest CBS News poll.

On the Democratic side, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has increased her lead over her nearest rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

In a head-to-head matchup, Giuliani's lead over McCain is now 23 points, 52 percent to 29 percent, which equals its February level. A month ago, Giuliani's advantage was down to 9 points.

With former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney added to the mix, Giuliani comes in at 47 percent, followed by McCain at 25 percent and Romney at 10 percent.

IF THESE WERE THE CANDIDATES, WHO WOULD YOU WANT AS REP NOMINEE?
(Among Republican Primary Voters)

Giuliani
47 percent
McCain
25 percent
Romney
10 percent
None
13 percent

Republican primary voters have favorable views of all three of their leading candidates. But Giuliani and McCain's unfavorable ratings among all voters have risen since last month.

While McCain's outspoken support for the surge of U.S. troops may have hurt his overall standing with the American public, it's a net positive for him among Republican primary voters. These voters strongly support the war, and six in 10 of them believe, like McCain, that the surge is working.

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Republican primary voters are much more likely than the nation's voters as a whole to say they care about candidates' personal lives as well as their political records. But asked about two personal issues that concern the GOP candidates — multiple marriages (Giuliani has been married three times) and age (McCain is 70) — most Republican primary voters said these issues would not affect their vote.

Regardless of whom they support, GOP primary voters are most likely to think Giuliani will be the party's eventual nominee.

Meanwhile, Democratic primary voters continue to favor Clinton and expect her to be the party's nominee.

In a three-way contest, Clinton leads Obama by 15 points and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards by 18. Last month, Clinton's lead over Obama was 8 points.

IF THESE WERE THE CANDIDATES, WHO WOULD YOU WANT AS DEM NOMINEE?
(Among Republican Primary Voters)

Clinton
39 percent
Obama
24 percent
Edwards
21 percent

However, Clinton remains a polarizing figure. She is the only one of the top three Democratic contenders who gets a negative assessment from all registered voters.

Both Obama and Edwards are more liked than disliked, although many still have no opinion about them. Edwards appears to have gained a bit in overall favorability since last month. Americans overwhelmingly said Edwards' decision to stay in the race after learning of his wife's cancer recurrence had not changed their feelings about him.

Opinions about Obama have become slightly less positive among Democratic voters in recent weeks.

Democratic voters are generally happier with the current field of candidates than Republicans — and the differences between the parties on this question are growing. Roughly six in 10 Democrats now say they're content with their choices, while six in 10 Republicans are not.

SATISFIED WITH YOUR PARTY’S PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS?

Republican Primary Voters
Satisfied
35 percent
Want more choices
61 percent

Democratic Primary Voters
Satisfied
59 percent
Want more choices
36 percent

That's a reversal from past elections, when Democrats tended to be less satisfied than Republicans with their options.

While many Republicans who plan to vote in a primary or caucus want more choices, most are unable to name a specific candidate they'd like to see run. Eleven percent of those who'd like more choices want to see former senator (and current Law & Order actor) Fred Thompson run, while 8 percent mentioned former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Thompson remains relatively unknown among Republican primary voters. Nearly eight in 10 say they're undecided or haven't heard enough about him. Twenty-one percent have a favorable view of him and none have a negative view.

Gingrich, on the other hand, is well known. Thirty-three percent of GOP voters have a favorable view of him, while 25 percent have an unfavorable view.

Among the relatively small number of Democrats who want more candidate choices, most also cannot name someone specific they'd like to get into the race. Those who were mentioned most often include former presidential candidates Al Gore and Bill Bradley, and even former President Bill Clinton, who is ineligible to run again.

A separate CBS News poll found most Americans agree with the Democrats in Congress that the U.S. should set a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq sometime next year.

At the same time, a majority believe the political stalemate between the White House and Congress over a war funding bill is having a negative impact on the morale of U.S. troops in Iraq.

Republicans remain optimistic about the president's deployment of additional troops to Iraq and about the prospects for success there. However, Americans overall continue to believe that the war is going badly, that the troop increase is not helping and that the prospects for success in Iraq are dim.

A record number cite the war as the country's most important problem.

For detailed information on how CBS News conducts public opinion surveys, click here.


This poll was conducted among a random sample of 994 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone April 9-12, 2007. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.


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by fascistusa April 13, 2007 6:58 PM PDT
Who cares?

America is a FASCIST NATION ruled by The American Elite and Israel/AIPAC.

We're all SLAVES.
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by juliemd April 13, 2007 7:23 PM PDT
Clinton-Obama 2008!
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by imprisonbush April 13, 2007 7:24 PM PDT
This article begs the unanswered question: if Guiliani and Clinton are the only two candidates, what percentage would vote for each???? Fortunately, either one of these candidates will be MUCH better than the war monger-in-chief that nearly everyone would like to dump.
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by cornholio622 April 13, 2007 7:35 PM PDT
Guiliani should eventually fall in as vice for McCain. That would be the most logical and unbeatable ticket. Despite liberal false reporting and propaganda, the American public is not fooled by Clinton or Obama. They would gladly let the nation be run from Peking or Persia.
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by formrusmcsgt April 13, 2007 7:45 PM PDT
However, Clinton remains a polarizing figure. She is the only one of the top three Democratic contenders who gets a negative assessment from all registered voters.

And this will be her downfall, fortunately for us all.

Edwards or Obama will overtake Hillary as we see more and more of them all.

I hope Giuliani continues to lead the Repub pack as he has so much dirty laundry in his suitcase that it will be a Dem slam-dunk running against Rudy.
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by katg21 April 13, 2007 8:03 PM PDT
cornholio622,

I know this is off the subject but I had to laugh when I saw your posting name, Cornholio. Man that brings back some memories! Funny.
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by katg21 April 13, 2007 8:06 PM PDT
Who cares?

America is a FASCIST NATION ruled by The American Elite and Israel/AIPAC.

We're all SLAVES.
Posted by fascistusa at 06:58 PM : Apr 13, 2007


Sad but probably true.
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by wiredwilly April 13, 2007 8:28 PM PDT
What makes you think a CBS poll has any credibility at all !
Media for millionaires. The elections are a farce.
I'm starting my own Party :
Vote : Nappy Headed Ho 08'
I haven't chosen my candidates yet but Snoop Dogg/Al Sharpton
would be strong if I could get them. 50 Cent / Obama would be a close second, but getting Obama to switch might be hard. A third choice might be Don Imus / the Rutgers Girls Basketball Team but they might not be old enough to run and might have some explaining to do about all the tattoos. My last choice and perhaps the best ticket would be Rove / Gonzales but they are probably too busy looking for deleted eMails and ducking from the spotlight.
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by cronin15 April 13, 2007 8:33 PM PDT
i think mccain needs to make another trip to iraq and say how peaceful and tranquil it is ... i think he is right on the money ...
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by roger_inkart April 13, 2007 8:35 PM PDT
The moderates that supported McCain have run from his camp - mostly due to his insane and increasingly embarrasing support for the Iraq war. The nation is (hopefully) through with GOP happy talk which runs counter to reality.

But anything (D) or (R) will be an improvement over the derranged lunatics in the White House at the moment.
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by lawandorder6 April 13, 2007 8:37 PM PDT
She will win. Knows more than all the rest togethere. If she don't win the USA is in deep trouble. Like Al and his bay what his name the other crook , the one with the girl frind.
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by formrusmcsgt April 13, 2007 8:39 PM PDT
She will win. Knows more than all the rest togethere. If she don't win the USA is in deep trouble.
Posted by lawandorder6 at 08:37 PM : Apr 13, 2007

You really think replacing a megalomaniac with a common thief is an improvement?

She tried to steal half the White House art and furnishings on the way out with Bill.
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by comebackdan April 13, 2007 8:45 PM PDT
All you liberals and CBS news go hand in hand.

Both have about as much integrity and intellect.
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by katg21 April 13, 2007 8:47 PM PDT
Clinton...God help us!!! Plus, hasn't SHE already been president? I would love for Fred Thompson to run but think he won't, he's too smart. Honestly, I'm not thrilled by any of the candidates maybe because it's too *** early to get excited.
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by katg21 April 13, 2007 8:50 PM PDT
She will win. Knows more than all the rest togethere. If she don't win the USA is in deep trouble. Like Al and his bay what his name the other crook , the one with the girl frind.
Posted by lawandorder6 at 08:37 PM : Apr 13, 2007

Knows more what? "If she don't win" I think we're the better for it.
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by formrusmcsgt April 13, 2007 8:55 PM PDT
All you liberals and CBS news go hand in hand.

Both have about as much integrity and intellect.
Posted by comebackdan at 08:45 PM : Apr 13, 2007

You mean like the integrity shown by Foley, Libby, DeLay and Cunningham?

Or the intellect shown by White house staff who aren't intelligent to avoid deleting emails that the law require be preservedor a president wasting American treasure and warriors on an unwinnable war?

Is that what you mean?
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by cecilray-2009 April 13, 2007 8:55 PM PDT
It is Strikingly a polarized situation with recent poles of the 08 Presidential race. In that, since all the comments of the Imus firing, polls reflect a down-sizing of popularity for Obama. One sided opinions are above all bewildering and bipartisan, since the Clinton camp was not asked their opinon of Imus' firing. America, be warned, you continue to go about the melberry bush in the same fashion time after time, but you have refused to open your minds to the reality of abitlities in individual choices. Unity is not by category of colors, but by choices of individuals with inteligence of what is truth and honest in the sight of everyday life. Be not deceived by foolish blunders of those who, like you, have not the desire to attain to a higher calling in life. Let not the mediocre character influence you to an unbalanced reality of purpose. Let not the schisms of comment deflect the pure and clean choices that stand for what you live and work for each day. Stay the course, keep the faith and look always for the best of the best in human character and knowledge, and be not partial of appearances.
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by erasmus6 April 13, 2007 9:04 PM PDT
I have one thing to say- GO HILARY!
Even though this is not my country, I want to see what a woman can do. We have already seen what the men can do, not too good so far.
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by radiob-2009 April 13, 2007 9:12 PM PDT
Fill in the blank________ It's better than any of the choices from either party.No more politicians, Just Americans not tied to special intrest and political partys.Public campaign finance as the law for all candiates, term limits now.
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by cecilray-2009 April 13, 2007 9:13 PM PDT
You still don't get it, it's not about what you assume you know about what you hear of some one, but what you truly believe and know about yourself. Take in the facts, trust your self in your final decision, don't you know your own self. The freedom of chice still exists, make use of it with your own mind and not someone else's. Always listen, but make a clean individual choice. Let no one lead you about like a bull with a ring in its nose.
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by seven-pesos April 13, 2007 9:20 PM PDT
i don't care who becomes president as long as he's not a southerner and not a christian.

the south never does good for america.

always war, hate, southern arrogance, phony christian creeps, crooked republican snakes, bible thumpers, flag wavers...

no, my friends, the south never does good for america.

nothing good comes out of the south.
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by processor2 April 13, 2007 9:31 PM PDT
Comparing political philosophies


Since comparing Republicans vs. Democrats is an argument which never goes anywhere,
let%u2019s instead compare Democrat vs. Democrat..%u2026
let%u2019s say Clinton vs. J.F. Kennedy.

The Clinton and current Democrat philosophy on governing/government is:

%u201CBig Government will provide for you%u201D, &
%u201CFrom cradle to grave, Big Government will take care of you%u201D, &
%u201CIt takes a Village%u201D (Big Government)

Whereas J.F. Kennedy said :
%u201CAsk not what your country can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country%u201D


These two philosophies (both democrat) are completely opposite of each other.

I would much rather be a J.F. Kennedy democrat than a Clinton democrat.

J.F. Kennedy also instituted tax cuts on the top rates to spur a sluggish economy. (hmmmm%u2026%u2026.sounding familiar)

Sounds like the NeoCommies and MoveOn.org have hijacked a democrat party that I once knew and respected.

But I%u2019m not a republican, so what%u2019s an average American supposed to do ??

...

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by frb01 April 13, 2007 9:48 PM PDT
Hillary Clinton as Senator from NY has been an opportunist, she has not even started on her first promise from her first term to bring employment to upstate NY. She goes on a mission to Rutgers on Monday, for purely political reasons, the women on that team are far beyond this, have shown style and grace in the past few days and can make their own decisions.
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by perception5 April 13, 2007 9:49 PM PDT
Our corrupt liberal MSM wolfpack is enaging in a conspriacy to make Republicans to think that they don't have a candidate that we like. WRONG CORRUPT LIBERAL PRESS. The GOP has the three strongest candidates ..........all moderates. Mit Romney is just like Ronald Reagan except even more inspiring.
Anyways our corrupt liberal press is worried that the GOP has the winning candidates which is why they are trying to UNDERMINE Mit and Rudy.......they won't even give Mit any press.
But write this down.....the wolfpack will continue with this tactic of trying to discourage Republicans........it won't work.
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by tuckerndfw April 13, 2007 9:53 PM PDT
From the story:

"IF THESE WERE THE CANDIDATES, WHO WOULD YOU WANT AS DEM NOMINEE?
(Among Republican Primary Voters) "



AMONG REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS?

Talk about biased surveys. . . *whew*

If Republicans would choose Hillary as their opponent, Dems would be crazy to nominate her.

But, Dems would be crazy to nominate her in any case. Her positive numbers are as high as they will ever get and she has no realistic chance of winning a national election.

Hillary is as unelectable as John McCain.
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by drp28 April 13, 2007 10:02 PM PDT
its Giuliana time!
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by tuckerndfw April 13, 2007 10:05 PM PDT
When I see the word "pad" used in the context of the headline, I usually think "to artificially inflate," such as it is used in "pad the books," meaning to overstate earnings, profits or losses.

I was disappointed that Hillary had not been caught in another one of her fraudulent schemes.

It appears CBS needs to hire headline writers with English as their first language. "Pad" is rarely (never) used to mean "increase" other than artifically increased, usually for criminal purposes.

Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pad
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by erasmus6 April 13, 2007 10:05 PM PDT
didntinhale

I have to keep up to date in what is going on in your country. We are your neighbours and with all the enemies you have, if you get blown out of the water, so do we! :)
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by tuckerndfw April 13, 2007 10:11 PM PDT
I agreed with your whole post Tucker. Its gonna be rudy when all the smoke clears.

When was the last time any of us actually voted FOR someone instead of the lesser of two a$$holes?

Posted by didntinhale at 10:01 PM : Apr 13, 2007

I usually vote for an independent (unknown) candidate. I held my nose and voted for Kerry in 2004 as a protest vote against the entire Bush administration.

At this point, I'm truly undecided. My preferred candidate, Kinky Friedman, Jew Cowboy, author, musician, jokester and friend of Willy Nelson, lost the race for governor of Texas. (any friend of Willy's is a friend of mine)

Which was really disappointing because I had already begun my "Kinky for President, 2008" campaign preparations.

Oh, well.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter who is elected to be president. But it does provide an excuse for us mere mortals to waste time and energy pretending it does.
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by j-whitman April 13, 2007 10:18 PM PDT
I can't say much for Hilliary except I like it when she gets mad --- But let's face it Rudy's $11 Million will sure by him better dresses
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by j-whitman April 13, 2007 10:27 PM PDT
Didntinhale,,, I can't believe you where even thinking.
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by tuckerndfw April 13, 2007 10:54 PM PDT
Actually, the Imus thing is the best reason for voting for Obama, all other things being equal.

Professional racists, race baiting hate mongers such as the "reverends" Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson would lose their primary platform (race baiting) if the US elected a black (or half black) president.

I would vote for Obama before I would vote for most of the others on either ticket. Especially Hillary & McCain.

But, as I said, I am undecided.

I also like Ron Paul (R - Texas) and Bill Richardson (D - New Mexico).

I'll decide about three seconds before I mark the ballot (we still use paper ballots in my district).
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by tuckerndfw April 13, 2007 11:10 PM PDT
Incidentally, George Bush would never qualify as a southerner or, more specifically, a Texan. That is just where Barbara happened to be vacationing when the little jerk was born. All of his roots are in Maine.

Posted by 90210 at 10:47 PM : Apr 13, 2007

I agree with most of your comments, but, I had to correct your last comment. I am a fifth generation (at least) Texan and Bush is not a Texan of any kind, except for political purposes.

He was born in New Haven, Connecticut, grandson of a Connecticut Senator investigated for war profiteering and aiding German Nazis. He currently lives on a multi-million dollar estate routinely mischaracterized as a "ranch." Which is comparable to calling a limousine an off-road vehicle.

Bush is afraid of cows and horses. There is no livestock on his "ranch" except for Karl Rove, and he's a pig. Pigs are generally not considered "ranch animals."

Demonstrating he is not a real Texan. He is a little sissy from the East Coast. As are his supporters.
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by lavampire April 14, 2007 1:11 AM PDT
Can you imagine what our founding fathers would think about these current apathetic candidates for the presidency. Not one single individual running at this time can honestly claim the presidency or has the valor and the fortitude or the great, brilliant mind to be the leader.
Everyone running for the position at this time is simply running for the sake of running, and in the world stage, his or her presence would seem weak and insufficient.
The time is now to have a great formidable leader with conviction, fortitude, valor, and honor -- a leader not at the behest of the world but at the behest of the United States.
We need a leader that will save the American culture and reinvigorate it and that will make America beautiful and majestic again.
I do not see an augustian among these mediocres. I only see weakness and uncertainty about where and how to lead this great nation. I am certain that our founding fathers are shaking their heads in disbelief.
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by styx07-2009 April 14, 2007 1:19 AM PDT
Yep, I am looking forward to the communist party electing hilary prez, and obama vp. GOOD TIMES ahead, more abortions (3000 daily now just think what we can work towards), more taxes, a health care system that you stand in line for days just to get in, a weak military, absence of free speech, lies, Pelosi flying her jet, Gore exagerating the green house effect for air time, loss of personal freedoms (guns, homeowners, entreprenuership, religious), no more sovreignty, no more flags, no more pledge. Can i get a reach around while the middle class is getting serviced by lobbyist and commi's running the show then please? Cant wait!!!
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by lavampire April 14, 2007 1:21 AM PDT
By the way, well stated tuckerndfw. He is a Yale, silver-spooned, mediocre academician or scholar, who is probably the guy that instead of getting into the fight, ends up holding the coats or waits in the car.

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by styx07-2009 April 14, 2007 1:56 AM PDT
Hilary, just like her husband, has done nothing, except get on the popular majority bandwagons, rode the liberal, lobbyist, special interest rides availible to her and condemned those not. She is not as smart, but very devious. Too bad you will not see this until its too late! She, like her husband, and the dems, stand for nothing, stand against nothing, for everything, and has absolutely no back bone, nor any moral fiber to define anything she stands for. She cant give any yes or no answers, only lawyer lingo. WE NEED A LEADER!!!!
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by lavampire April 14, 2007 2:16 AM PDT
Hilary, remember, is not the little Tammy Wynette who will stand by her man; moreover, she waffles too much. Waffle means that she espouses rhetoric that is undefined, obtuse, ambiguous, and at times, unrealistic.
Moreover, we must end the dynasties of the Bushes and the Clintons, and we must increase the salary of the US presidency to that of about $5,000,000.00/year, at least so that we can attract the brains and the driven that otherwise gravitate to the higher-paying positions in the private sector. that is, the next president must hold a physics and an economics degree, speak at least three or four languages, play the violin or the piano, and correctly pronunce the word nuclear, not nucular.
I cannot believe that a country such as ours cannot produce a truly, intelligent, articulate, and stalwart leader. That we cannot produce such an individual is quite incomprehensible to me.
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by lavampire April 14, 2007 2:27 AM PDT
By the way, maybe we can out-source the presidency, to somewhere in India. Moreover, I am certain that some creative teenagers in America can write code for a brilliant program that will be able to run the country, such as a plane on autopilot. It would sure save us a great many dollars, and we can even have guest presidents every month, such as a hollywood film star one month, an NFL football coach or athlete another month, a rock-and-roll singer the other, and even a regular joe through a national lottery for another month. I am certain that any of these individuals would be doing a far better job then current president.
Not a bad idea, do you not think?
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by tuckerndfw April 14, 2007 2:35 AM PDT
By the way, well stated tuckerndfw. He is a Yale, silver-spooned, mediocre academician or scholar, who is probably the guy that instead of getting into the fight, ends up holding the coats or waits in the car.


Posted by lavampire at 01:21 AM : Apr 14, 2007

Thanks.

That's what Bush reminds me of. He's the kind of guy who starts a fight and then runs off when the fighting begins. Either that or pretends to pass out beneath a table as far from the fighting as he can get.

After which, he brags about "staying the course" and "supporting the troops" to his wimpy friends at the country club. While the guys who actually did the fighting are recovering from their wounds.

It is hard to believe that so many Americans are so gullible that they actually believe his make believe horsesh*t.

If Bush was half the man his cartoonist media advisors make him out to be, he would not be riding a bicycle around his "ranch."

He would be riding a horse, rounding up his cattle.

But, he can't even ride a bicycle without injuring himself, so it's little wonder he is terrified by a horse. Maybe I should send him a horse for his birthday.

*hehehehe...*

For the uninformed, a horse can tell when the rider is a wimpy coward and will sometimes run him into trees, into a ditch, or otherwise show him who's boss. Superman (C. Reeve) was killed by a horse he couldn't control.

Should I send Bush a gift horse????
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by tuckerndfw April 14, 2007 2:42 AM PDT
I am certain that any of these individuals would be doing a far better job then current president.
Not a bad idea, do you not think?

Posted by lavampire at 02:27 AM : Apr 14, 2007

George Bush has conclusively demonstrated that it requires no qualifications whatsoever to be president or "commander in chief." *barf*

From my viewpoint, we should eliminate the position altogether and use "guest hosts" (as you suggest) on a volunteer, as available basis.

No reason to pay them. Those morons on "American Idol" aren't being paid. And, there are plenty of them available to be "guest president."
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by lavampire April 14, 2007 2:57 AM PDT
tuckerndfw -- just be certain that the horse is one of those that has a brass pole through it, goes up-and-down, and goes around in a merry-go-round. We sure would not want a real horse having to put up with is *** (or should I say Bushshit).

Keep it up tuckerndfw.
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by lavampire April 14, 2007 2:58 AM PDT
tuckerndfw -- just be certain that the horse is one of those that has a brass pole through it, goes up-and-down, and goes around in a merry-go-round. We sure would not want a real horse having to put up with his *** (or should I say Bushshit).

Keep it up tuckerndfw.
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by tuckerndfw April 14, 2007 3:16 AM PDT
Keep it up tuckerndfw.

Posted by lavampire at 02:58 AM : Apr 14, 2007

Not to worry.

I consider George Bush to be the most incompetent and corrupt "president" in US history.

It is offensive to me that he has disgraced not only the Office of the President, he has disgraced the United States of America and the Great State of Texas.

And, as a veteran of the US Army who served during the Vietnam era while he was likewise busily engaged in partying and dodging any real danger, he is offensive as the "commander in chief."

Especially when he insults veterans who refuse to support his incompetence and corruption.

I really do find it hard to believe that there are still, according to the polls, about 90 million Americans who claim to support him.

But, so long as he is office, I will continue to point out that he is a phony, a coward, and his media image is a fictional cartoon character that bears no resemblance to the real George Bush.

BTW, I really do like your idea of using guest presidents. That's a great solution. Save us a lot of money and aggravation if we could have a "President of the Week."

And we couldn't possibly do any worse than the useless baggage we currently have in the White House.
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by jimkun April 14, 2007 3:25 AM PDT
Tuckerndfw... Among independents (not even considering Democrats), Bush's approval rating is in the 28%. So it's only the Republicans which give him 75% approval rating which give him a "respectable" approval rating of the 34%. Doesn't it say something about Republicans when there is a 47% difference between what independents think and what Republicans think? And the Republicans ocnsider themselves mainstream?

By the way, with even more scandals lately, of Gonzales telling lies both to Congress and the American public, but Bush standing behind him, and Rove "accidentally" deleting e-mails... It amazes me how Bush and his cronies gets any support.
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by tuckerndfw April 14, 2007 3:53 AM PDT
It amazes me how Bush and his cronies gets any support.

Posted by jimkun at 03:25 AM : Apr 14, 2007

We agree.

It appears Republicans became "power drunk" and lost any sense of honor, integrity or concern for anything other than hanging on to power at all costs.

It is quite obvious Republicans no longer represent anyone other than their "base." Most of whom appear to be religious zealots & extremists equivalent to "Muslim extremists."

The Bush administration has elevated lying to the highest level I have ever seen in American politics. The Bush administration reminds me of one of those wacko banana republic dictatorships.
Lying appears to be their only real core "value."

I can only hope, and do sincerely hope, that whoever is elected will dramatically alter the course set by the Bush administration.

Lying and initiating unnecessary wars of aggression are not symbolic of anything I support.
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by acauble1 April 14, 2007 5:16 AM PDT
"...That we cannot produce such an individual is quite incomprehensible to me."
Posted by lavampire at 02:16 AM : Apr 14, 2007


We did produce such an individual... in 1960. But then he was fatally shot in 1963!

There will never be another John F. Kennedy, no matter how hard we look/search/hope/dream/pray.

We had a glimmer of hope with Ronald Regan, (no matter how you viewed his politics).

But now we'll have to settle for the retards, the ones we pick last to be on our 'team'.
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by gramto7 April 14, 2007 6:30 AM PDT
Incidentally, George Bush would never qualify as a southerner or, more specifically, a Texan. That is just where Barbara happened to be vacationing when the little jerk was born. All of his roots are in Maine.

Posted by 90210 at 10:47 PM : Apr 13, 2007

I agree with most of your comments, but, I had to correct your last comment. I am a fifth generation (at least) Texan and Bush is not a Texan of any kind, except for political purposes.

He was born in New Haven, Connecticut, grandson of a Connecticut Senator investigated for war profiteering...
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That is why I say we have a "Connecticut Yankee in King [Georgie's] Court."
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by gkc99 April 14, 2007 7:51 AM PDT
Sorry, you Texans can't disown Curious George that easily--you all elected him governor of your state! Plus he seems to accurately reflect a virulent strain of right-wing ideology that appears to be popular in Texas. Suck it up, Texas.
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by skyk-2009 April 14, 2007 8:33 AM PDT
Yep, I am looking forward to the communist party electing hilary prez, and obama vp. GOOD TIMES ahead, more abortions (3000 daily now just think what we can work towards), more taxes, a health care system that you stand in line for days just to get in, a weak military, absence of free speech, lies, Pelosi flying her jet, Gore exagerating the green house effect for air time, loss of personal freedoms (guns, homeowners, entreprenuership, religious), no more sovreignty, no more flags, no more pledge. Can i get a reach around while the middle class is getting serviced by lobbyist and commi's running the show then please? Cant wait!!!
Posted by styx07 at 01:19 AM : Apr 14, 2007

God it would be nice IF you Fascist would change your line. This is EXACTLY what you said about another President from the State of New York. He went on to be elected not once but FOUR times, lead us out of a Depression and through a WORLD War. He established safeguards in our society that still remain today and with HIS economic Plan, that remained in place until "Trickle Down", we became the Greatest Economic Superpower the World has ever known. Now I'm not saying she will be another Franklin Roosevelt but she's a lot closer than anyone else outthere right now. Take your fake Family Values and put them away, I really don't think your hatred for those who do not buy into your religion is going to carry the day for you now or for a long time to come.
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