NAIROBI, Kenya, April 4, 2007

AP: Feds Working In Secret African Prisons

U.S. Agents Hunting Al Qaeda Have Been Interrogating Suspects At Notorious Prisons, According To Investigation

  • Forty-two-year-old mother of three, Kamilya Mohammedi Tuweni, left, sits with her brother Sabry Abdullah in her house in Sharjah, United Arab Emirates, Sunday, April 1, 2007. Kamilya said she was held incommunicado, without charges or due process for more than two and a half months in jails in Kenya, Somalia and finally Ethiopia. She was freed a month after being interviewed, fingerprinted and photographed by a U.S. agent, she said.

    Forty-two-year-old mother of three, Kamilya Mohammedi Tuweni, left, sits with her brother Sabry Abdullah in her house in Sharjah, United Arab Emirates, Sunday, April 1, 2007. Kamilya said she was held incommunicado, without charges or due process for more than two and a half months in jails in Kenya, Somalia and finally Ethiopia. She was freed a month after being interviewed, fingerprinted and photographed by a U.S. agent, she said.  (AP Photo/Nousha Saimi)

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(AP)  An FBI memo read to AP by a U.S. official in Washington, who insisted on anonymity, quoted an agent who interrogated Meshal as saying the agent was "disgusted" by Meshal's deportation to Somalia by Kenya. The unidentified agent said he was told by U.S. consular staff that the deportation was illegal.

"My personal opinion was that he may have been a jihadi a-hole, but the precedent of 'deporting' U.S. citizens to dangerous situations when there is no reason to do so was a bad one," the official quoted the memo as saying.

Like Benaouda, Meshal was arrested fleeing Somalia. A Kenyan police report of Meshal's arrest obtained by AP says he was carrying an assault rifle and had crossed into Kenyan with armed Arab men who were trying to avoid capture.

Meshal's parents insist he is innocent and called on the U.S. government to win his release.

"My son's only crime is that he's a Muslim, an American Muslim," his father, Mohamed Meshal, said from the family's two-story home on a cul-de-sac in Tinton Falls, New Jersey, where he lives with his wife, Fifi.

"Clearly the U.S. government interrogated him, and threatened him with torture according to the accounts that we've seen," said Jonathan Hafetz, a lawyer at the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law who has been assisting the family.

Rep. Rush Holt, a Democrat from New Jersey, wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Monday to demand Meshal's immediate release. "Our government cannot allow an American citizen to continue to be held by the Ethiopian government in violation of international law and our own due process," he said.

The International Committee of the Red Cross, the guardian of the Geneva Conventions that protect victims of war, is seeking access to the Ethiopian detainees, said a diplomat from a country whose citizens are being held. He insisted on speaking anonymously because he is working for their release.

U.S. officials, who agreed to discuss the detentions only if not quoted by name because of the information's sensitivity, said Ethiopia had allowed access to U.S. agencies, including the CIA and FBI, but the agencies played no role in arrests, transport or deportation.

One official said it would have been irresponsible to pass up an opportunity to learn more about terrorist operations.

Kolko, the FBI spokesman, also said the detainees were never in FBI or U.S. government custody.

"While in custody of the foreign government, the FBI was granted limited access to interview certain individuals of interest," he told AP. "We do not support or participate in any system that illegally detains foreign fighters or terror suspects, including women and children."

Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman, declined to discuss details of any such interviews. He said, however: "To fight terror, CIA acts boldly and lawfully, alone and with partners, just as the American people expect us to."

One of the U.S. officials said the FBI has had access in Ethiopia to several dozen individuals — fewer than 100 — as part of its investigations.

The official said the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania that killed hundreds are a major focus of the agents' work. Law enforcement officials have long believed the bombings were carried out by members of Osama bin Laden's terrorist network who were later given safe haven in Somalia.

The official said FBI agents would not be witness or party to any questioning that involved abuse.

It wasn't clear how many people the CIA interviewed or whether the agency's officers were working jointly with the FBI.

The CIA began an aggressive program in 2002 to interrogate suspected terrorists at an unknown number of secret locations from Southeast Asia to Europe. Prisoners were frequently picked up in one country and transferred to a prison in another, where they were held incommunicado by a cooperative intelligence service. But President Bush announced in September that all the detainees had been moved to military custody at Guantanamo Bay.

One Western diplomat, who refused to be quoted by name for fear of hurting relations with the countries involved, would not rule out that additional suspects in Ethiopia could be sent to Guantanamo.

Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua insisted no laws were broken and said his government was not aware that anyone would be transferred from Somalia to Ethiopia.

Lawyers and human rights groups argue the covert transfers to Ethiopia violated international law.

"Each of these governments has played a shameful role in mistreating people fleeing a war zone," said Georgette Gagnon, deputy Africa director of Human Rights Watch. "Kenya has secretly expelled people, the Ethiopians have caused dozens to disappear, and U.S. security agents have routinely interrogated people held incommunicado."


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by randalds April 6, 2007 3:23 AM EDT
Just when you think Bush ad Cheney can't drag our country's name even further down into the filth of their Nazi-like corruption they find a way to do it. Once upon a time most of the world respected us and we actually had the right to criticize other countries human rights abuses. I guess with Bush, Cheney and the few as*sholes who still follow them the answer is that if you can't beat them, join them. Somehow I don't think that becoming just as covered with sh*it as the people we're supposed to be fighting isn't what real Americans had in mind, only the cowardly ones. Only the ones who don't have the guts to defend our American values and instead hand it away to the government like frightened school children. People who support this sort of thing have no right to associate with real Americans any longer or even to call themselves citizens of this nation.
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by j-whitman April 5, 2007 11:21 PM EDT
Why can't we send Bush/Cheney/Gonzales to one of these prisons ???? -- America needs answers

God would say "Sure dude, do unto others. They've got it comming"
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by pwrslm April 5, 2007 11:18 PM EDT
Sensationalism.

This story is ***. Nobody is blaming the US for abducting anyone. They are monitoring the prisons for wanted AQ terrorists.

Simply put, this is irresponsible journalism.
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by j-whitman April 5, 2007 11:13 PM EDT
cbscrash07,,, Here's a simpler solution -

- Lower the Speed Limit across our nation 20 mph... It'll save lives, won't cost our emergency services as much, be better for our economy, auto industries & jobs, & also combat polution which is health & Global Warming problem.
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by j-whitman April 5, 2007 11:06 PM EDT
cbscrash07 ,, Nice thought,, But, Ethonal will allso drive up the cost of our food.
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by toolmangler-2009 April 5, 2007 11:00 PM EDT
The US Government / CIA is abducting foreign nationals from sovereign states, illegally detaining and torturing them & this is OK with you ?! If these were US citizens you NAZIS would be screaming for military intervention. Bottomline ? IT'S WRONG! And justifying it with scenarios you've seen in a television drama is ignorant to the "X" power.
Posted by TiredoftheBS at 11:14 PM : Apr 04, 2007


I agree mostly with your comments because two wrongs have never made a 'right'.
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by randalds April 5, 2007 6:40 PM EDT
There are only two kinds of men who approve of torture. Those who get off torturing other men and those men who get off being tortured by other men. Every other excuse is just to try to cover their fetish. It must be, because all of the best experts say the information gleaned from torture is nearly always worthless, so it can't be because you really believe what someone who is beaten into saying anything says. So since there is no national security to be gained from doing it then the only option left is that it gets you off. Sick, but true.
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by randalds April 5, 2007 6:31 PM EDT
There is not now, never has been and never will be an excuse for torture. All of this garbage that we have to fight them this way because they do it too is a load of sh*it and a pathetic excuse.

This administration (esp Di*ck "leather boy" Cheney) and many of it's supporters here push torture so much that it's become obvious that it has nothing to do with national security, but rather that they get some sort of demented sexual thrill out of it. Come on guys! Admit it! You don't care about terrorism! You're just turned on by the idea of sweaty, young (the younger the better...right), swarthy men chained to a table for you to beat, torture and use as you will. What is it? The screams? The blood? Gets you off right! Or maybe you're one of those who see's Cheney dressed in leather doing it to you? Make you hot sickos? It must because that's the only reason I can think of that you all love it so much. Because you're sick.
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by taddles-2009 April 5, 2007 2:15 PM EDT
So we got bored torturing our own prisoners and decided to expand to torturing other countries prisoners? What, it wasn't fun enough with just our prisoners?

What we need is a better class of prisoner, people with better info to extract....how about Bush, Cheney and Gonzo? They've got good info they aren't telling people about. Let's render them for a bit, squeeze them a bit, see what kind of nasty greasy stinky stuff oozes out.

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by Syndicate April 5, 2007 2:05 PM EDT
Drinuk: If everyamerican switched to diesel then the price of diesel would sky rocket much like what we are starting to see with ethanol and corn production. Don't worry about us. We will be using ethanol before long. I know of two plants built within 20 miles of me. It would not surprise me if this is strategic. Ethanol goes online Iran gets bombed. The nice thing about ethanol is it works in current cars with a couple hundred dollars worth of upgrades. Diesel requires thousands of dollars for new engines.
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by pwrslm April 5, 2007 12:37 PM EDT
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pwrslm, No good drilling the Gulf of Mexico for more oil before you stop driving around in 4lt motors cars. America could half it's use of oil by restricting all cars to 1.9lt diesel engines. The price and demand on oil would drop to record levels in weeks. Then we could sit back and laugh at the grovelling oil producers and oil barons. The Middle East would revert back to Camels and the likes of Haliburton forced to buy a KFC franchise.
Posted by drinuk at 07:46 AM : Apr 05, 2007


Tell the idiots on Capitol Hill that.

Meanwhile, Cuba begins oil exploration right off our shores, claiming wells that should ave been US, but tree huggers in Congress and Florida did thier thing.

Wanna save the world, stop terrorists and religious tyrany. The rest will come naturally.
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by pwrslm April 5, 2007 12:33 PM EDT

You would have made a great SS member! I'm serious you are so fascist in your views and opinions the SS would have made you into a guard at one of their death camps. How does someone grow up in the most LIBERAL and compassionate place on planet earth and turn out this hate filled and Cold blooded. It doesn't matter to a fascist who is tortured or killed, they are all inferior and that's just the way things are? Right Sparky? You make my skin crawl.... Sieg Heil and Amen.
Posted by MCVet at 08:54 AM : Apr 05, 2007


What a farce. There is nothing facist about what I said. Your small mindedness is sticking out like a red herring.

You are obviously ignorant about what Islam truely is. Your superficial summary of that ignorance is aptly demonstrated every day on these CBS boards.


Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah." (Sahih Bukhari 1.24)


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by mcvet April 5, 2007 11:54 AM EDT
Its time we drill the Gulf of Mexico and get our own oil instead of dealing with the clowns in the ME.

The only way we will ever be truely free from the manipulation of Islam is to become free from foreign oil.

That wont stop Islamists from fighting us infidels, but at least it will give us a fighting chance.
Posted by pwrslm at 06:57 AM : Apr 05, 2007

You would have made a great SS member! I'm serious you are so fascist in your views and opinions the SS would have made you into a guard at one of their death camps. How does someone grow up in the most LIBERAL and compassionate place on planet earth and turn out this hate filled and Cold blooded. It doesn't matter to a fascist who is tortured or killed, they are all inferior and that's just the way things are? Right Sparky? You make my skin crawl.... Sieg Heil and Amen.
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by oleander8 April 5, 2007 11:46 AM EDT
American officials can deny until their bellies turn blue - but no one will believe them. The United States has lost all credibility in the world at large - thanks to the current administration.
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by drinuk April 5, 2007 10:46 AM EDT
pwrslm, No good drilling the Gulf of Mexico for more oil before you stop driving around in 4lt motors cars. America could half it's use of oil by restricting all cars to 1.9lt diesel engines. The price and demand on oil would drop to record levels in weeks. Then we could sit back and laugh at the grovelling oil producers and oil barons. The Middle East would revert back to Camels and the likes of Haliburton forced to buy a KFC franchise.
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by pwrslm April 5, 2007 9:57 AM EDT
Its time we drill the Gulf of Mexico and get our own oil instead of dealing with the clowns in the ME.

The only way we will ever be truely free from the manipulation of Islam is to become free from foreign oil.

That wont stop Islamists from fighting us infidels, but at least it will give us a fighting chance.
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by coffeehead-2009 April 5, 2007 9:49 AM EDT
Oil -- Diamonds...
Yep - bush feds WOULD be there!


U.S. military intervention was precipitated by the need to protect four major U.S. oil companies that were occupying two-thirds of Somalia%u2019s land surface %u2013 Conoco, Amoco, Chevron and Philips Petroleum. The presence of these oil companies %u2013 all of which were connected to Bush, Sr. %u2013 was in connection with the discovery by the Texas-based Hunt Oil Corporation of 1 billion barrels of oil reserves in Yemen south of Saudi Arabia. The oil reserves were part of a %u201Cgreat underground rift%u201D that stretched to northern Somalia. Aside from its proximity to the oil, Somalia is a key strategic asset to oil tanker routes through both the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea.
In early 2002, the oil lobbyists urged Congress to declare the Gulf of Guinea located off Western Africa as %u201Can area of vital interests to the United States.%u201D Walter Kansteiner, Bush%u2019s assistant secretary of state of Africa, had earlier declared that %u201CAfrican oil is of national strategic interest to us, and it will increase and become more important as we go forward
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by zootallures2 April 5, 2007 9:37 AM EDT
What on earth does the West need Somalia for? Who cares who runs it. The North American continent, Mexico, Europe, Austrialia, South Korea, and Japan is not enough?

Forget the security. With the murder rate in America, an attack on it might just save lives. If you are busy fighting a real enemy at home, it might just take your mind off of killing each other. Maybe you should fight them here instead of abroad.

The Iraqis have only killed around 3,600 Americans. In Texas where there is no war, America lost 5,000 killing each other in the same time span.


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by drinuk April 5, 2007 9:26 AM EDT
If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas. It serves no purpose adopting the activities of Islamic Fundamentists as a method of defeating them, you simply become a recruiting sergeant for the other demented and ignorant individuals.
Far better to let them stew in their squalor until they themselves decide upon a more fruitful and rewarding lifestyle rather than the hate they have for the life we have created through hardwork and endevour. Protect the Nation by all means but do not decend to their depths in doing so. Those already living amongst us who show any inclination to cause us harm should be expelled back to the squalor.
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by kansas1946 April 5, 2007 3:21 AM EDT
Just f***ing great. Another gold star on America's already sullied reputation. Bush cannot be gone soon enough. I wonder who or what Bush would classify as a "good" guy. He is always screaming about "those evil terrorists." Well maybe he sould re-read Pogo. We need to get back to being the good guys.
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