McCain Visit Angers Some Iraqis

Merchants At Oft-Bombed Market Say Heavily Guarded Tour Doesn't Reflect Reality

(CBS/AP)  Iraqis in the capital said Tuesday that Sen. John McCain's account of a heavily guarded visit to a central market did not represent the current reality in Baghdad, with one calling it "propaganda."

Jaafar Moussa Thamir, a 42-year-old who sells electrical appliances at the Shorja market that the Republican congressmen visited on Sunday, said the delegation greeted some fellow vendors with Arabic phrases but he was not impressed.

"They were just making fun of us and paid this visit just for their own interests," he said. "Do they think that when they come and speak few Arabic words in a very bad manner it will make us love them? This country and its society have been destroyed because of them and I hope that they realized that during this visit."

Leading a congressional delegation to Baghdad's oldest market over the weekend, Sen. McCain praised the safety of the city since the American troop surge, reports Martin Seemungal for CBS News.

But according to someone who was actually with the delegation, that sense of security required a massive military operation: dozens of U.S soldiers, snipers, and helicopters hovering overhead.

The shopkeepers were back Monday, adds Seemungal, but they confirmed that Sen. McCain's delegation could never have come here without heavy security.

McCain, a Republican presidential hopeful who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, said he was "cautiously optimistic" after riding with other members of a Republican congressional delegation from Baghdad's airport Sunday in armored vehicles under heavy guard to visit Shorja.

The market has been hit by bombings including a February attack that killed 137 people. The delegation said the trips were proof that security was improving in the capital.

McCain acknowledged a difficult task lies ahead in Iraq, but he insisted a U.S.-Iraqi security plan was working, citing a recent drop in execution-style sectarian killings, the establishment of security posts throughout the city and Sunni tribal efforts against al Qaeda in the western Anbar province.

"These and other indicators are reason for cautious, very cautious optimism about the effects of the new strategy," the Arizona senator said.

The congressmen, who wore body armor during their hour-long shopping excursion at the Shorja market, said they were touched by the resilience and warmth of the Iraqi people, some of whom would not take money for their souvenirs.

The delegation was accompanied by the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, and followed his lead in taking off their helmets as they bought souvenirs and drank tea.

"I didn't care about him, I even turned my eyes away," Thamir said. "We are being killed by the dozens every day because of them. What were they trying to tell us? They are just pretenders."

Karim Abdullah, a 37-year-old textile merchant, said the congressmen were kept under tight security and accompanied by dozens of U.S. troops.

"They were laughing and talking to people as if there was nothing going on in this country or at least they were pretending that they were tourists and were visiting the city's old market and buying souvenirs," he said. "To achieve this, they sealed off the area, put themselves in flak jackets and walked in the middle of tens of armed American soldiers."

But Abdullah applauded the congressmen for venturing out of the heavily guarded Green Zone, which houses the U.S. and British embassies as well as Iraqi government offices.

"Although these U.S. officials were using this visit for their propaganda to tell the Americans 'we are gaining progress here, don't worry,' it left a kind of good impression with some of us," he said. "They are at least better than Iraqi officials who never venture out their Green Zone to talk to normal people and see their problems. I hope that this visit will encourage Iraqi officials to leave their fortified houses inside the Green Zone."

McCain and fellow Republicans Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Representative Mike Pence of Indiana and Rep. Rick Renzi of Arizona traveled Monday to Anbar province, a Sunni insurgent stronghold west of Baghdad that also is part of the security crackdown to which President Bush has committed some 30,000 extra troops.

The congressmen met with provincial police as well as Sheik Abdul Sattar al-Rishawi, who is leading a growing movement of Sunni tribesmen who have turned against al Qaeda-linked insurgents in Anbar, the military said in a statement issued Tuesday.

In other developments:

Citing improved security in the capital, the Iraqi government said Tuesday it was shortening the Baghdad curfew by two hours and would allow citizens to be on the streets until 10 p.m. Violence in the capital has declined since the latest U.S.-Iraqi joint security operation began on Feb. 14, though there have been spectacular attacks. But bloodshed has increased elsewhere in Iraq after insurgents and militiamen moved operations out of the capital in advance of the security crackdown.

A U.S. Marine was killed in combat in Iraq's volatile Anbar province, the military said on Tuesday. The Marine, assigned to Multi National Force-West, was killed Monday, the military statement said. It gave no further details and said the Marine's name was withheld until family was notified.

A senior Iraqi foreign ministry official said on Tuesday that the government was "intensively" seeking release of five Iranians detained by the U.S. military more than two months ago in northern Iraq. "We are intensively seeking the release of the five Iranians," the senior official said. "This will be a factor that will help in the release of the British sailors and marines'' held by Iran since March 25.


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by superpatr898 April 3, 2007 11:43 AM EDT

What do I think?

I think that as usual, CBSNews, headed by chipmunk Couric, with her Democratic MoveOn.Org credentials looked for an Iraqui or two after McCain's visit to spout hate at us.

Maybe its true - but they NEVER look for those who hate the terrorists and ask them questions. Just shrilling for Botox Nan as usual.

You would have thought CBSNews had learned its lesson after they jettisoned their Tex Demo Rather and his paid party hack stooge Mary Mapes. But Nah, business as usual.

But you won't hear or see them decry the rising Anti-Semitism in the world. Gee, I wonder why?

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by iceman_1960 April 3, 2007 11:46 AM EDT

D*ick Cheney, sounding more and more like Adolph Hitler in his bunker in the final days:

"The fact is that the United States military answers to one commander-in-chief in the White House, not 535 commanders-in-chief on Capitol Hill. We expect the House and the Senate to meet the needs of our military on time, in full, and with no strings attached." - D*ick Cheney

Somebody send this decrepit Nazi a copy of the Constitution:

Article I, Section 8:

"Congress shall have the Power...To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress..."

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by gkc99 April 3, 2007 11:48 AM EDT

McCain is regrettably starting to look like the Marchurian Candidate, just like Bushit and the neocons painted him in 2000. First, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are "evil", then, McCain is kissing the hem of Falwell's and Robertson's robes.

Now McCain would like the American public to drink the Neocon Koolaid again with his staged fairy story about how wonderful it is to shop in Baghdad. Go ahead Pubbies! Put him up for Prez--Hilly and Obama will kick his a$$!

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by luvny-2009 April 3, 2007 11:49 AM EDT

They all put on rose colored glasses don't they? Too bad McCain has jumped ship now too.

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by skyk-2009 April 3, 2007 11:51 AM EDT

I think that as usual, CBSNews, headed by chipmunk Couric, with her Democratic MoveOn.Org credentials looked for an Iraqui or two after McCain's visit to spout hate at us.

Maybe its true - but they NEVER look for those who hate the terrorists and ask them questions. Just shrilling for Botox Nan as usual.

What is wrong with you people? Why do fascist insist on attacking anyone who doesn't spout the party line? It's Embarrassing!! There are what? 20 or so pure Nazi sites you can access with great ease and hear nothing but what you want to hear but NO! You Swastika totten morons want to prevent the rest of us from hearing what this person said and what really happened in Iraq. You are now and have always been losers. Why? You can't adjust. If it's not the way you and your brain have things planned you can't figure out how to deal with it.

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by toldyouso21 April 3, 2007 11:53 AM EDT

"Do they think that when they come and speak few Arabic words in a very bad manner it will make us love them? This country and its society have been destroyed because of them and I hope that they realized that during this visit."

and no matter how long we stay...THE TRUTH OF THAT COMMENT CAN NEVER BE ERASED --WE ARE HEROS AND SAVIORS OF IRAQ ONLY IN OUR OWN MINDS. IN REALITY, WE ARE A SCOURGE...A NOSY, DANGEROUS, BUSYBODY WHO THINKS WHEN WE WANT SOMETHING--THERE IS NO PRICE TO HIGH FOR OTHERS TO PAY TO GIVE IT TO US. (Iraqis never asked for Democracy or Freedom and sure as hell never asked for the bombs, WP, torture and mayhem our invasion caused.)

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by toldyouso21 April 3, 2007 11:56 AM EDT

But you won't hear or see them decry the rising Anti-Semitism in the world. Gee, I wonder why?
Posted by Superpatr898 at 08:43 AM : Apr 03, 2007


Maybe it is hard to decry a cause to an effect. With Israelis killing scores of Palestinians and Lebanese (and Americans providing the bombs while claiming to 'stay out of it) there is no small wonder that both Anti Semitism and Anti-Americanism is on the rise. It could be commented on (and has been) but frankly, we are the authors of this very bad book, now you complain about the review?

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by superpatr898 April 3, 2007 11:57 AM EDT

Skybozo,

Why do you insist on ranting about Nazis when you and your friends like bluestarbigot and grazinggoat are the true Jew-baiters and America haters here.

Go back to your padded cell and straightjacket like a nice little looney schiz should. The stuff is dribbling from your mouth, just like your brains did decades ago.

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by rjstolba April 3, 2007 11:58 AM EDT

I think you are all wrong!! Senator McCain is right. We are making progress. The markets are open and safe. The streets are paved with gold. My only hang up is: WHY ISN'T HE WALKING AROUND WITHOUT A VEST AND ARMORED ESCORT???

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by fairandbal April 3, 2007 11:58 AM EDT

It's really clear that Rove is now feeding McCain lines just like he's been doing for Bush for years. We don't need a puppet for President, we need someone who sees and tells the truth.

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by terrapin78 April 3, 2007 12:00 PM EDT

This is as disingenuous of an act as any that Bush makes. This is showing McCain's start towards senility, much like Reagan in his second term.

There is no place in Iraq that an American can walk without being heavily armed and in great numbers. Period.

Drink some more Kool-Aid Johnny! You will never be elected Prez.

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by dallison7 April 3, 2007 12:02 PM EDT

McCain has definitely gone over to the 'dark side'. This Bushit coming from and McCain and Lindsay Graham is meant to garner public support for a presidential veto of the funding bill for the troops. And they venture out with 150 body guards, 20 humvees and body armor!!

What a gaffe!!

Bush is planning to veto the funding bill for the troops and expects the American people to believe it is for some reason other than his ego!! LOL!!

Listen carefully, Chimp!!

If you veto the funding bill for the troops it is on YOUR BACK!!

The American people will no longer allow you to act like a spoiled child and place the blame elsewhere!!

Your 'Monkey-Boy' legacy will be:

1. You started an illegal and immoral war by lying to Congress and the American people.

2. You refused to support the troops after you threw them into this illegal and immoral war, by stopping funding for the troops.

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by melcarnahan April 3, 2007 12:03 PM EDT

News flash: Iraqiac purchases rug at discount price! An Iraqi entrepreneur set up a stand to serve the crowd that had gathered to see the scene where a faith-based initiative had just detonated. Freedom Fries, Get your Freedom Fries he called out! He also sold gasoline from a bucket at ten cents a gallon and handed out free bibles.

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by superpatr898 April 3, 2007 12:07 PM EDT

Israelis killing scores of Palestinians and Lebanese...Nice...and typical.

Could it be that these Palestinians are terrorists, and ditto for the Marine killers of Hizbullah.

But hey, the MoveOn.Org paid hacks must be "evenhanded" ala Howie Schicklgruber Dean or the Nazi collaborator Soros.

Or their botox pin-up babe, the female Dorian Grey aka Nancy Pelosi.

Remember, if the Israelis really, really wanted to wipe out the roachistinians especially after all of the genocidal bombings and Arafat's violations of peace agreements, they could have done so in a heartbeat. Then what would our Nazi and Traitor little roaches here say - oh, but of course, the Jooz are no better than the Nazis.

Which is what you are - those of you who decry Israeli response to Islamonazi terror.

Of course not one of you would ever go to Darfur and see the real results of what your friends do. Too much like reality.

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by karlimhof April 3, 2007 12:08 PM EDT

Thamir said "about 150 U.S. soldiers and 20 humvees" accompanied the McCain delegation."

Sounds real safe in Bagdad. What about your walk around town John?


McCain is a has-been and probably suffering from dementia. Lying bugger wants to wear the Crown but doesn't realize he's yesterday's story.

Only judeofacist, fear-mongering, bigot clowns like superPATRIOTEER would believe such nonsense.

Stay in the ME John, the situation is so good now - and invite all the hymies to colonize Iraq instead of Palestine.

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by karlimhof April 3, 2007 12:15 PM EDT

but frankly, we are the authors of this very bad book, now you complain about the review?
Posted by toldyouso21

The bad book - as you aptly call it, has been in the writing for a long time - Chilean dictatorships, Argentinian, Nicaragua, Honduras, Palestine, Lebanon, etc.

Hundreds of thousands gave their innocent blood, millions suffered, to write the pages of this book of Domination.

Until we see our true strength is not the sword - but Justice - the writing will continue....

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by kalatur2 April 3, 2007 12:16 PM EDT

Wow Superpatr898, such anger.

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by karlimhof April 3, 2007 12:18 PM EDT

Of course not one of you would ever go to Darfur and see the real results of what your friends do. Too much like reality.
Posted by Superpatr898


Darfur? No, patrioteer, just go to your real home, which is not America - but israel. Go!
You can kill poor innocent Palestinian children without worry.

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by kcstan11 April 3, 2007 12:21 PM EDT

I heard that they had a number of heavily armed helicopters flying overhead and that they completely sealed-off the markets ... before they let McCain in with a hoard of body-guards...

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by shingles1 April 3, 2007 12:21 PM EDT

Never trust anyone who tosses out the word "jooz" to condemn the supposed anti-semitism of others. It's just a way for people who are themselves anti-semites to pretend that they're not.
Another meaningless arrow in a the quiiver of cheap rhetorical devices used to condemn anyone, liberal or otherwise, who's not a kool aid drinker.

Also, Superpatr898, you should probably look up the meaning of the word "genocidal"...I don't think it means what you think it means. And the way you toss it around, along with your idiot cliched Nazi references, demeans and belittles the memory of those who actually died at the hands of real Nazis.

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by ghosttownsky April 3, 2007 12:31 PM EDT

The best way for us to resolve the Iraq war is for us to develop a diverse group of high ranking moderate Iraq army officers to take control of the country? History shows that successful changes in regime are normally followed by the installation of a Military Leader with political savvy. Preferably they would be elected. They need to possess country loyalty and have a big stick at their disposal to keep various factions under control. Maybe that is already our plan. Maybe the threat of this happening would get the current government doing what it needs to do. Note: Our first President was a General. This could be the basis of a federal system with this group controlling Iraq%u2019s oil and acting as the force to maintain cooperation and sharing between the three separate factions of the country. Each faction should be equally represented in this group.

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by harp1963 April 3, 2007 12:37 PM EDT

Our Administration must be similar to the English government in 1690 when William of Orange overthrew his father-in-law King James of Ireland. In 1695 they probably kept telling the English people, "Oh those Irish will love us in a few more years." 300 years later in 1990 they finally got a peace agreement after they pulled the troops out of Northern Ireland. Bush and his administration must be getting "good" advice from the British on how to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. That last thing these street vendors in Iraq want to see are super wealthy American politicians, war veterans or not, trying to act like "one of the boys." Pull out the troops now! Haliburton and Bechtel will have to pump the oil with out the taxpayer security forces.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml

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by missmyhubby April 3, 2007 12:40 PM EDT

"Op Order: Protect Senator McCain as he pretends to shop in Baghdad."

We lose 8 soldiers from Ft. Drum alone this weekend and soldiers had to be tasked to protect McCain. Sickening!

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by inventagod April 3, 2007 12:42 PM EDT

McCain is an embarrassment.

Bu$h is a liar.

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by grumpas April 3, 2007 12:43 PM EDT

I see Supertraitor898 is spewing his hate filled venom again this morning! It's a wonder the boys in white don't throw a net over him and drag them off to the funny farm where he belongs! Right wing hate rhetoric should come with a warning label on it! "Warning! Right wing hate could destroy your ability to reason like a normal human being!" Superboy sounds like a basket case!

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by tuckerndfw April 3, 2007 12:43 PM EDT

You know your propaganda machine isn't working very well when the puppets you were using for a backdrop to stage your propaganda refuse to cooperate.

McCain should not only drop out of the presidential race, he should resign from the US Senate.

Wasting US tax dollars on a propaganda campaign trip is probably illegal. Maybe he should be prosecuted for fraud.

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by samrensho April 3, 2007 12:44 PM EDT

Once again the American taxpayer gets fleeced to the tune of a photo-op trip for a lagging presidential candidate. 150 troops risking their lives around a high profile target, 20 humvees, the first class air transport there and back for this geriatric joke and his retinue? The US Gov. should cross charge the Republican party.

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by kcstan11 April 3, 2007 12:50 PM EDT

McCain was wearing a large adult diaper and ... he filled it ....

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by tuckerndfw April 3, 2007 12:50 PM EDT

Lindsey Graham claims to be a JAG lawyer.

He really should be prosecuted, he has to be held to a much higher standard. And, he should be dishonorably discharged from his reserve unit.

It appears that whole group was defrauding the US government (stealing tax dollars).

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by jwhitmann April 3, 2007 12:52 PM EDT

I see GRUMPASS is spewing his hate filled venom again this morning! It's a wonder the boys in white don't throw a net over him and drag them off to the funny farm where he belongs! LEFT WING HATE rhetoric should come with a warning label on it! "Warning! LEFT WING HATE could destroy your ability to reason like a normal human being!" GRUMPASS sounds like a basket case!

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by dogband April 3, 2007 12:53 PM EDT

A Bush clone, that just confirmed he has no better judgement that Bush. I fear for my country. You would think that with his personal historical perspective on the world he would know better than this staged photo-op.

Even the everyday man on the street saw right thru this. The stupidity of our leaders amazes me.

What if the rich mayor of anyrichcityUSA paid a visit to the slum side of town for a photo opt prior to election time? Do you think this would convince the citizens that he gave a *** about them? Absolutely amazing. Soon they will all...republicans and democrate be visiting New Orleans with bells on.

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by missmyhubby April 3, 2007 12:53 PM EDT

McCain was wearing a large adult diaper and ... he filled it ....


Posted by kcstan11 at 09:50 AM : Apr 03, 2007

Wonder what poor soldier got tasked with changing that diaper!

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by missmyhubby April 3, 2007 12:55 PM EDT

AMERICA:

Behold your new president wannabe.
Another liar and a phony who wants to keep us into the war for ever.
Posted by nikosk1 at 09:53 AM : Apr 03, 2007

yep---and 1st BDG out of Ft. Drum is returning to Iraq in June....having just returned in Aug of '07---only 10 an 1/2 months later!

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by misha131 April 3, 2007 12:56 PM EDT

The facts remain inconclusive.

US and Iraqi Military and Police deaths appear to be up -- Expected based on the activity -- positive is when the spike reduces and remains down.

Civilian deaths appear to be up - disappointing it appears the problems have relocated

Alledged rogue police retaliation in the northern town - unfortunately predictable -- this needs to be dealt with appropriately or the situation will deteriorate.

Overcrowded jails - expected - presents potential for a deteriorating situation -- if expedient determination of the need for incarceraton for individuals is not included.-- if the facilities are not adequately protected. -- if abuses (inmates or guards) happens internally.

This activity has significant risk-- planning and execution must improve over that which we have seen to date.

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by jn122736 April 3, 2007 12:58 PM EDT

"But you won't hear or see them decry the rising Anti-Semitism in the world. Gee, I wonder why?"
Posted by Superpatr898 at 08:43 AM : Apr 03, 2007

Why are almost all remaining bush supporters, apparently, Jewish? And why do they consistently use the worn-out charge of anti-Semitism against all who criticize the Iraqi fiasco. They make it appear that Israel is the only reason we are in Iraq.
I wonder where they got such an idea (sarcasm intended).

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[superpatr898]

What do I think?

I think that as usual, CBSNews, headed by chipmunk Couric, with her Democratic MoveOn.Org credentials looked for an Iraqui or two after McCain's visit to spout hate at us.

Maybe its true - but they NEVER look for those who hate the terrorists and ask them questions. Just shrilling for Botox Nan as usual.

You would have thought CBSNews had learned its lesson after they jettisoned their Tex Demo Rather and his paid party hack stooge Mary Mapes. But Nah, business as usual.

But you won't hear or see them decry the rising Anti-Semitism in the world. Gee, I wonder why?

[iceman_1960]

D*ick Cheney, sounding more and more like Adolph Hitler in his bunker in the final days:

"The fact is that the United States military answers to one commander-in-chief in the White House, not 535 commanders-in-chief on Capitol Hill. We expect the House and the Senate to meet the needs of our military on time, in full, and with no strings attached." - D*ick Cheney

Somebody send this decrepit Nazi a copy of the Constitution:

Article I, Section 8:

"Congress shall have the Power...To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress..."

[gkc99]

McCain is regrettably starting to look like the Marchurian Candidate, just like Bushit and the neocons painted him in 2000. First, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are "evil", then, McCain is kissing the hem of Falwell's and Robertson's robes.

Now McCain would like the American public to drink the Neocon Koolaid again with his staged fairy story about how wonderful it is to shop in Baghdad. Go ahead Pubbies! Put him up for Prez--Hilly and Obama will kick his a$$!

[luvny-2009]

They all put on rose colored glasses don't they? Too bad McCain has jumped ship now too.

[skyk-2009]

I think that as usual, CBSNews, headed by chipmunk Couric, with her Democratic MoveOn.Org credentials looked for an Iraqui or two after McCain's visit to spout hate at us.

Maybe its true - but they NEVER look for those who hate the terrorists and ask them questions. Just shrilling for Botox Nan as usual.

What is wrong with you people? Why do fascist insist on attacking anyone who doesn't spout the party line? It's Embarrassing!! There are what? 20 or so pure Nazi sites you can access with great ease and hear nothing but what you want to hear but NO! You Swastika totten morons want to prevent the rest of us from hearing what this person said and what really happened in Iraq. You are now and have always been losers. Why? You can't adjust. If it's not the way you and your brain have things planned you can't figure out how to deal with it.

[toldyouso21]

"Do they think that when they come and speak few Arabic words in a very bad manner it will make us love them? This country and its society have been destroyed because of them and I hope that they realized that during this visit."

and no matter how long we stay...THE TRUTH OF THAT COMMENT CAN NEVER BE ERASED --WE ARE HEROS AND SAVIORS OF IRAQ ONLY IN OUR OWN MINDS. IN REALITY, WE ARE A SCOURGE...A NOSY, DANGEROUS, BUSYBODY WHO THINKS WHEN WE WANT SOMETHING--THERE IS NO PRICE TO HIGH FOR OTHERS TO PAY TO GIVE IT TO US. (Iraqis never asked for Democracy or Freedom and sure as hell never asked for the bombs, WP, torture and mayhem our invasion caused.)

[toldyouso21]

But you won't hear or see them decry the rising Anti-Semitism in the world. Gee, I wonder why?
Posted by Superpatr898 at 08:43 AM : Apr 03, 2007


Maybe it is hard to decry a cause to an effect. With Israelis killing scores of Palestinians and Lebanese (and Americans providing the bombs while claiming to 'stay out of it) there is no small wonder that both Anti Semitism and Anti-Americanism is on the rise. It could be commented on (and has been) but frankly, we are the authors of this very bad book, now you complain about the review?

[superpatr898]

Skybozo,

Why do you insist on ranting about Nazis when you and your friends like bluestarbigot and grazinggoat are the true Jew-baiters and America haters here.

Go back to your padded cell and straightjacket like a nice little looney schiz should. The stuff is dribbling from your mouth, just like your brains did decades ago.

[rjstolba]

I think you are all wrong!! Senator McCain is right. We are making progress. The markets are open and safe. The streets are paved with gold. My only hang up is: WHY ISN'T HE WALKING AROUND WITHOUT A VEST AND ARMORED ESCORT???

[fairandbal]

It's really clear that Rove is now feeding McCain lines just like he's been doing for Bush for years. We don't need a puppet for President, we need someone who sees and tells the truth.

[terrapin78]

This is as disingenuous of an act as any that Bush makes. This is showing McCain's start towards senility, much like Reagan in his second term.

There is no place in Iraq that an American can walk without being heavily armed and in great numbers. Period.

Drink some more Kool-Aid Johnny! You will never be elected Prez.

[dallison7]

McCain has definitely gone over to the 'dark side'. This Bushit coming from and McCain and Lindsay Graham is meant to garner public support for a presidential veto of the funding bill for the troops. And they venture out with 150 body guards, 20 humvees and body armor!!

What a gaffe!!

Bush is planning to veto the funding bill for the troops and expects the American people to believe it is for some reason other than his ego!! LOL!!

Listen carefully, Chimp!!

If you veto the funding bill for the troops it is on YOUR BACK!!

The American people will no longer allow you to act like a spoiled child and place the blame elsewhere!!

Your 'Monkey-Boy' legacy will be:

1. You started an illegal and immoral war by lying to Congress and the American people.

2. You refused to support the troops after you threw them into this illegal and immoral war, by stopping funding for the troops.

[melcarnahan]

News flash: Iraqiac purchases rug at discount price! An Iraqi entrepreneur set up a stand to serve the crowd that had gathered to see the scene where a faith-based initiative had just detonated. Freedom Fries, Get your Freedom Fries he called out! He also sold gasoline from a bucket at ten cents a gallon and handed out free bibles.

[superpatr898]

Israelis killing scores of Palestinians and Lebanese...Nice...and typical.

Could it be that these Palestinians are terrorists, and ditto for the Marine killers of Hizbullah.

But hey, the MoveOn.Org paid hacks must be "evenhanded" ala Howie Schicklgruber Dean or the Nazi collaborator Soros.

Or their botox pin-up babe, the female Dorian Grey aka Nancy Pelosi.

Remember, if the Israelis really, really wanted to wipe out the roachistinians especially after all of the genocidal bombings and Arafat's violations of peace agreements, they could have done so in a heartbeat. Then what would our Nazi and Traitor little roaches here say - oh, but of course, the Jooz are no better than the Nazis.

Which is what you are - those of you who decry Israeli response to Islamonazi terror.

Of course not one of you would ever go to Darfur and see the real results of what your friends do. Too much like reality.

[karlimhof]

Thamir said "about 150 U.S. soldiers and 20 humvees" accompanied the McCain delegation."

Sounds real safe in Bagdad. What about your walk around town John?


McCain is a has-been and probably suffering from dementia. Lying bugger wants to wear the Crown but doesn't realize he's yesterday's story.

Only judeofacist, fear-mongering, bigot clowns like superPATRIOTEER would believe such nonsense.

Stay in the ME John, the situation is so good now - and invite all the hymies to colonize Iraq instead of Palestine.

[karlimhof]

but frankly, we are the authors of this very bad book, now you complain about the review?
Posted by toldyouso21

The bad book - as you aptly call it, has been in the writing for a long time - Chilean dictatorships, Argentinian, Nicaragua, Honduras, Palestine, Lebanon, etc.

Hundreds of thousands gave their innocent blood, millions suffered, to write the pages of this book of Domination.

Until we see our true strength is not the sword - but Justice - the writing will continue....

[kalatur2]

Wow Superpatr898, such anger.

[karlimhof]

Of course not one of you would ever go to Darfur and see the real results of what your friends do. Too much like reality.
Posted by Superpatr898


Darfur? No, patrioteer, just go to your real home, which is not America - but israel. Go!
You can kill poor innocent Palestinian children without worry.

[kcstan11]

I heard that they had a number of heavily armed helicopters flying overhead and that they completely sealed-off the markets ... before they let McCain in with a hoard of body-guards...

[shingles1]

Never trust anyone who tosses out the word "jooz" to condemn the supposed anti-semitism of others. It's just a way for people who are themselves anti-semites to pretend that they're not.
Another meaningless arrow in a the quiiver of cheap rhetorical devices used to condemn anyone, liberal or otherwise, who's not a kool aid drinker.

Also, Superpatr898, you should probably look up the meaning of the word "genocidal"...I don't think it means what you think it means. And the way you toss it around, along with your idiot cliched Nazi references, demeans and belittles the memory of those who actually died at the hands of real Nazis.

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[ghosttownsky]

The best way for us to resolve the Iraq war is for us to develop a diverse group of high ranking moderate Iraq army officers to take control of the country? History shows that successful changes in regime are normally followed by the installation of a Military Leader with political savvy. Preferably they would be elected. They need to possess country loyalty and have a big stick at their disposal to keep various factions under control. Maybe that is already our plan. Maybe the threat of this happening would get the current government doing what it needs to do. Note: Our first President was a General. This could be the basis of a federal system with this group controlling Iraq%u2019s oil and acting as the force to maintain cooperation and sharing between the three separate factions of the country. Each faction should be equally represented in this group.

[harp1963]

Our Administration must be similar to the English government in 1690 when William of Orange overthrew his father-in-law King James of Ireland. In 1695 they probably kept telling the English people, "Oh those Irish will love us in a few more years." 300 years later in 1990 they finally got a peace agreement after they pulled the troops out of Northern Ireland. Bush and his administration must be getting "good" advice from the British on how to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. That last thing these street vendors in Iraq want to see are super wealthy American politicians, war veterans or not, trying to act like "one of the boys." Pull out the troops now! Haliburton and Bechtel will have to pump the oil with out the taxpayer security forces.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml

[missmyhubby]

"Op Order: Protect Senator McCain as he pretends to shop in Baghdad."

We lose 8 soldiers from Ft. Drum alone this weekend and soldiers had to be tasked to protect McCain. Sickening!

[inventagod]

McCain is an embarrassment.

Bu$h is a liar.

[grumpas]

I see Supertraitor898 is spewing his hate filled venom again this morning! It's a wonder the boys in white don't throw a net over him and drag them off to the funny farm where he belongs! Right wing hate rhetoric should come with a warning label on it! "Warning! Right wing hate could destroy your ability to reason like a normal human being!" Superboy sounds like a basket case!

[tuckerndfw]

You know your propaganda machine isn't working very well when the puppets you were using for a backdrop to stage your propaganda refuse to cooperate.

McCain should not only drop out of the presidential race, he should resign from the US Senate.

Wasting US tax dollars on a propaganda campaign trip is probably illegal. Maybe he should be prosecuted for fraud.

[samrensho]

Once again the American taxpayer gets fleeced to the tune of a photo-op trip for a lagging presidential candidate. 150 troops risking their lives around a high profile target, 20 humvees, the first class air transport there and back for this geriatric joke and his retinue? The US Gov. should cross charge the Republican party.

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[kcstan11]

McCain was wearing a large adult diaper and ... he filled it ....

[tuckerndfw]

Lindsey Graham claims to be a JAG lawyer.

He really should be prosecuted, he has to be held to a much higher standard. And, he should be dishonorably discharged from his reserve unit.

It appears that whole group was defrauding the US government (stealing tax dollars).

[jwhitmann]

I see GRUMPASS is spewing his hate filled venom again this morning! It's a wonder the boys in white don't throw a net over him and drag them off to the funny farm where he belongs! LEFT WING HATE rhetoric should come with a warning label on it! "Warning! LEFT WING HATE could destroy your ability to reason like a normal human being!" GRUMPASS sounds like a basket case!

[dogband]

A Bush clone, that just confirmed he has no better judgement that Bush. I fear for my country. You would think that with his personal historical perspective on the world he would know better than this staged photo-op.

Even the everyday man on the street saw right thru this. The stupidity of our leaders amazes me.

What if the rich mayor of anyrichcityUSA paid a visit to the slum side of town for a photo opt prior to election time? Do you think this would convince the citizens that he gave a *** about them? Absolutely amazing. Soon they will all...republicans and democrate be visiting New Orleans with bells on.

[missmyhubby]

McCain was wearing a large adult diaper and ... he filled it ....


Posted by kcstan11 at 09:50 AM : Apr 03, 2007

Wonder what poor soldier got tasked with changing that diaper!

[missmyhubby]

AMERICA:

Behold your new president wannabe.
Another liar and a phony who wants to keep us into the war for ever.
Posted by nikosk1 at 09:53 AM : Apr 03, 2007

yep---and 1st BDG out of Ft. Drum is returning to Iraq in June....having just returned in Aug of '07---only 10 an 1/2 months later!

[misha131]

The facts remain inconclusive.

US and Iraqi Military and Police deaths appear to be up -- Expected based on the activity -- positive is when the spike reduces and remains down.

Civilian deaths appear to be up - disappointing it appears the problems have relocated

Alledged rogue police retaliation in the northern town - unfortunately predictable -- this needs to be dealt with appropriately or the situation will deteriorate.

Overcrowded jails - expected - presents potential for a deteriorating situation -- if expedient determination of the need for incarceraton for individuals is not included.-- if the facilities are not adequately protected. -- if abuses (inmates or guards) happens internally.

This activity has significant risk-- planning and execution must improve over that which we have seen to date.

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"But you won't hear or see them decry the rising Anti-Semitism in the world. Gee, I wonder why?"
Posted by Superpatr898 at 08:43 AM : Apr 03, 2007

Why are almost all remaining bush supporters, apparently, Jewish? And why do they consistently use the worn-out charge of anti-Semitism against all who criticize the Iraqi fiasco. They make it appear that Israel is the only reason we are in Iraq.
I wonder where they got such an idea (sarcasm intended).