Uploading Hatred Of Women

Death Threats Against Prominent Female Blogger Spark Debate About Prevalence Of Sexism Online

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Death Threats Roil Blogosphere

Kathy Sierra, a prominent technology blogger, says she suddenly canceled a talk she was supposed to give because of specific, sexually graphic death threats posted on her blog. Her remarks about the threats have sparked a debate online about whether women are especially targets of online threats simply because of their gender.

"I'm at home, with the doors locked, terrified," Sierra writes on her blog, Creating Passionate Users. Sierra's work is hardly controversial – she writes about cognition and computers. She doesn't know who is responsible for the threats, but criticizes "people like respected Cluetrain Manifesto co-author Chris Locke (aka Rageboy)" who founded one of the blogs that hosted the vicious comments.

"It's this culture of attacking women that has especially got to stop. I really don’t care if you attack me. I take those attacks in stride," Robert Scoble blogs. "But, whenever I post a video of a female technologist there invariably are snide remarks about body parts and other things that simply wouldn’t happen if the interviewee were a man. It makes me realize just how acerbic this industry and culture are toward women."

Kim Klaver agrees. "These are all vicious attacks on her - as a woman. Yes, anyone who has a point of view and expresses it in print will get disagreements and often, personal attacks. I've had them here. But death and sexual threats?," Klaver blogs.

Salon editor-in-chief Joan Walsh concurs that "misogyny grows wild on the Web."

"Attitudes toward women have improved dramatically just in my lifetime, but still the world has too many misogynists, and the Web has given them a microphone that lets them turn up the volume on their quavering selves, their self-righteous fury, their self-loathing expressed as hatred of women," Walsh writes on Salon.com. "And yet, mostly, women on the Web just have to ignore it."

In a response to Sierra's comments, Chris Locke responds that "it comes with the territory," adding that he was "certainly not out to 'target'" Sierra" on his blogs. "I think her response, as it pertains to anything I personally wrote, was unjustified -- but highly effective -- character assassination," he writes at Rageboy. "As a result, I'm sure I'll be explaining for years to come that I'm not really an ax murderer and child molester. Nice work."

The debate over online mysogeny and the threats against Sierra have made her one of the most searched people on Technorati for the past week. Many of Sierra's fellow bloggers have come to her defense, questioning the limits of free speech in the blogosphere.

"What Kathy is putting up with is totally unacceptable, and I'm frankly sickened at what she has had to go through. It is totally unacceptable to make threats to people. Period," Technorati's David Sifry blogs.

Many say the incident raises questions about what should be tolerated online. "It certainly raises questions about sexual equality on the web - as Kathy correctly points out if she was a man the threats would not have been posted. But it is still wrong that people can anonymously do this to someone," Ian Devlin blogs.

Some are calling for a bloggers bill of rights to encourage good conduct. But whether even that would work remains to be seen.


Breaking News...Ha!

Watch out, CBS News. The Onion News Network has debuted, online that is. The satirical newspaper turned satirical news network entered the broadcasting world with three new videos on immigration, Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice and another about Civil War re-enactors serving in Iraq. The Onion plans to add new video clips every week.

On its Website, the Onion News Network proclaims to have "set the standard for globe-encompassing 24-hour television news since it was founded in December, 1892." It considers CNN and MSNBC its rivals. "Those are parody shows," Onion president Sean Mills told Variety. "This is serious news." Many advertisers are already on board – including Dewar's Scotch, Hyundai and Red Stripe Beer.The Onion News Network has set the

"This is awesomely hilarious," a blogger at L33TG33K writes.

"The production quality of the ONN videos available so far is quite high across the board. The writing is somewhat less consistent, but at its best it is wickedly funny stuff," Rick Albertson blogs at Democracy Cell Project. "If the early segments are any indication, they ought to be very popular among the politically-oriented viral-video cognoscenti with a sense of humor."

"The Onion News Network takes the approach of a network that’s been in the game for quite some time, and in true satirical Onion style they mock, well, whatever they can," a blogger at 901am writes.

"I thought the clips were pretty consistent with The Onion's brand of humor -- we're not seeing real people being humiliated here, nor are we seeing a Jon Stewart-type personality deliver the news," Whitney Matheson writes at USA Today's Pop Candy.

But not everyone is a fan just yet. "ONN -- as of this writing, less a network than a Web page with four clips and a Dewar's ad -- finally takes that extra step. Its news items are, indeed, mocked-up rather than simply mocked," reviews New York magazine's Daily Intelligencer. "This means that both the anchors and the subjects are played, hammily, by actors, and the 'news footage' is as scripted as the banter around it. Sadly, though, it is not particularly well scripted, nor particularly amusing."


Baghdad Bound Blogger

Jane Stillwater, a 64-year-old California blogger, left for Kuwait last week in the hopes of ending up in Iraq as a blogger embedded with the U.S. military. The prolific blogger is being sponsored by The Lone Star Iconoclast, a liberal weekly based in Crawford, Texas, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Stillwater said she's going to Iraq to write about the war for "real people." She also wrote on her blog that she wanted to go to "Baghdad to write fabulous stories for YOU all about how our brave troops are doing a bang-up job over there despite the fact that their bosses in the White House are sadistic bastards, terribly inefficient crooks and totally nuts -- or I will spend three weeks wandering the streets of Kuwait City waiting for my flight home, searching for internet cafes and trying to sell bootleg Girl Scout cookies."

She landed in Baghdad on Sunday, and has been blogging about her trip. When she arrived in Iraq, she describes a conversation with an Iraqi reporter "who said that the market they went to was the safest in the city and several American reporters added that walking around in Baghdad without troops backing you up was suicidal and anyone who did something like that had a death wish."

Bloggers say they respect Stillwater's determination to head to Iraq. "Whether or not you agree with her, I hope you admire her moxie. We need more chicks with moxie," a blogger at Curbside Prophecies writes.

"This is one woman who has decided to live her life by not following the set rules that everyone thinks they are supposed to follow," Liz Folger adds.

But not everyone is sure it's the right decision. "I think this is cool, brave, crazy, dangerous, nuts," Tony Stubblebine writes at Stubbleblog.


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[anopinion1]

uhhhhhhh oooooooooo ahhhhhhh
oh sorry i was just having a wet dream about mellisa mcnarmia ahhh ummm you get the idea.

I guess I would have to see the posts to make a judgement but in general people act stronger then what they really are on a blog. aka zoroster.
People just post what is truely on their minds, which is what makes or keeps people entertained on these blogs. Some people obviously take it to far at times. death/bomb threats and the like are not one bit funny, as some children seem to think. You don't need a damm bloggers bill of rights, you need people to have common sense. You can attack people ideas and whatnot but not truely put fear into their lives.

[bluestardad]

women register for the draft then talk of equal rights after you take equal responsibilities for your freedoms!

[oleander8]

"women register for the draft then talk of equal rights after you take equal responsibilities for your freedoms! "
[Posted by bluestardad]

...uh-uh - equal rights first. -- men don't get to pick and choose 'which' equal rights they want to allow women to have. Besides, there is no draft - and women are already plentiful in the military.

[rotten30]

First of all, thank you for taking down the original photo of the noose and black silhouette. Seems like your crew have hatred toward Blacks in your own house needing to be taken care of as you try to cover gender harrassment in the technology field. Yes, I was offended by the original graphic as you defended Kathy Sierra..thank you.

So look at the comments in this section. You talk about this woman getting threats but have bozos typing up inappropiate messages that should not be allowed, yet you are allowing them. Why don't you clean up your hatred before criticizing other?

Melissa, you may heard of me if you did some research and I'm extremely dissappointed.

[bluestardad]

Every Male 18 has to register for selective service. Freedom is not free! Real women dont want a hand out they will earn their rights! Equality as a freedom is earned not given! Sign up of shut up! you cant pick and choose your rights as best suits your mood!

[actornaught]

bluestardad, freedom is not free, but after that you fall down completely into marginal ugliness.

'A civilized society shall be judged based on how it treats it's most vulnerable citizens'.

there are variations of this quote, but i certainly think some thought like it would be a cornerstone to any peace-loving society.

[anopinion1]

So look at the comments in this section. You talk about this woman getting threats but have bozos typing up inappropiate messages that should not be allowed, yet you are allowing them. Why don't you clean up your hatred before criticizing other?

Melissa, you may heard of me if you did some research and I'm extremely dissappointed.


Posted by rotten30 at 10:06 AM : Apr 04, 2007
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?? who is writing inapproiate things now?/??
attacking someone and calling them a bozo....Oh no lets call team america world police to the rescue....

my post was a joke mocking the begining of the article.(maybe a sad attempt, but oh well)
but a bill of rights for bloggers hahhahhhaah..
That may be the funniest thing i have heard in awhile...

if their were to be any rules then these 2 are as good as any!!!!!!(first one is common sense second is just for all the pathetic spelling bee champs)
1. No death threats/bomb/destruction/ stuff like that
2. (just a pet peeve of mine) If you resort to attacking the persons spelling or grammical errors. You are pathetic. Its a damm blog. its a flow of ideas and whatnot. As long as you understand what is being said then shove it.

[bluestardad]

ENJOY YOUR FREEDOM BOUGHT BY THE BLOOD OF MEN and the Sacrifice of Many while you make these post!

[bluestardad]

To ensure that all Americans earn their place within society there should be no preference or exclusion deferments from National Service Registration or Compulsory Service based on Race, Religion, Gender, Education, or Financial Status. Discrimination in the United States of America stands against the very foundation of the Constitution of this great nation. It is very important that All Americans share in the privilege and responsibility of registering for and serving our Nation by Compulsory National Service. It is our Responsibilities as American Citizens to contact our Elected Officials and Require them to guarantee All Americans and those who wish to be Americans this opportunity.

Saturday, May 1, 2004
Selective Service eyes women's draft
The proposal would also require registration of critical skills
By ERIC ROSENBERG
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON -- The chief of the Selective Service System has proposed registering women for the military draft and requiring that young Americans regularly inform the government about whether they have training in niche specialties needed in the armed services.

[actornaught]

bluestardad, i've you make some good posts, but i don't see any connection between death threats aimed at women, and drafting women!

should we allow people to be assaulted in the streets because we can't draft them into military service someday?

[sharncedar]

There is a lot of hatred of women out there, i think much of it well-deserved.

One of the grossest and most disgusting scenes in our culture today for example is an American woman wearing white at her wedding, a stained and filthy piece of garbage dressing in the colors of a virgin. And yet they can justify it so easily, and they can laugh in the face of those who say it is wrong. All that is left will be facts on the ground, which means the enforcement by force of values and moral standards. It is a shame it requires force, but when a civilization is so far from morality that they have not even a shred of conscience left, there is nothing for it but the irrefutable logic of life and death.

[actornaught]

wow... i wonder if an FBI profiler might have something to say about the 'garbage' guy...

[lfitts1]

SharnCedar and others--what is wrong with you--if you are too afraid and too embarrassed to take personal credit for the satements you make--you should not hide behind the cloak of the internet--anyone who feels that they can make staements because they are untracable--if you are so proud of these views--don't hide--tell your mother, your sister, your wife

[actornaught]

anonymity is an illusion, your IP and such can be traced right to your house. i would think death threats would qualify you for such a search.

[puppetsock]

I feel sorry for Kathy Sierra - nobody deserves to be faced with death threats, obviously.

However - seriously? If she's truly as internet savvy as this article implies, Kathy ought to know that the internet is not a place where you take people too seriously. She should be cautious, obviously, because you never know - some people are sick, and there may very well be an assasin out there. However, I seriously doubt it... I am more inclined to think that we're really talking about a sixteen year old kid who probably thinks it's hilarious that someone took him seriously.

A friend of mine was threatened once - nothing nearly as severe, but she was pretty much told to take something off the internet "or else." Years later, she is in perfect health.

Again, this is not to say that Sierra shouldn't be careful, or that whoever is doing these things needs to be found and questioned (even if they aren't dangerous - they still need to be corrected), but I just think that it's important to take everything you see on the internet with a grain and a pint of salt.

[sy2502]

SharnCedar your comment shows your stupidity and ignorance. You say that women should be hated because they are not virgins when they get married? Well, who exactly do you think they are having *** with? Men? So why wouldn't those men deserve the same hate you are directing towards women? Because you are an idiot, and a psycho, that's why.

[duffyn]

Right on sky2502 - Right on!!!!

[teeus]

"There is a lot of hatred of women out there, i think much of it well-deserved.
One of the grossest and most disgusting scenes in our culture today for example is an American woman wearing white at her wedding, a stained and filthy piece of garbage dressing in the colors of a virgin..."

Yikes. Dude, the puritans called. They want their intolerance and judgment back.

[juliemd]

I'll have to say, some of the blogs here illustrate her point. The hetrosexist driffle I've seen here is more apropo to the 16th century. Glad to be a lesbian!!!

[actornaught]

'hetrosexist driffle'? (are those words?) i agree with you halfway, i think, that there's way way too much 'anonymous' meanness, but it's NOT a sexual orientation issue.

The creepiest post in particular here so far is obviously a mental illness issue. And that's amazingly similar in tone to some kind of B-movie psychotic serial killer script. Serious or not, that person needs to be checked out.

The rest of the creepy posts are probably lesser nutcakes.

[Syndicate]

I'm tired of listening to women ***. You complain about the glass ceilings. You complain about being a second class citizen. Yet their are women who make more than me. We hired a women at work. I like her but I don't like the way the company gives here special considerations just because she is a woman. I don't like the fact that women don't have to register for the draft. Some thing about if I don't send that little piece of paper back I loose out on everything. NO student loans. No help from the goverment what so ever. College? Women get extra points for being a women. Jobs same thing. Bars? Women can get free drinks all night long. Even the ugly ones. A women never bought me a drink. ***. Ever wonder why there aren't any women predators. Because all they have to do is say hey I'm horney and we are there to serve you. If a man says hey I'm ***** the women files sexual harrasment complaints against him. Women have it great and all they do is *** about it. Death threats against women better hope there sons don't find out. Actualy you should be thankfull that we deal with are fustrations online with words.

[godofredo29]

Ever heard of misandry? It's the little sister of misogyny. We don't like to talk about her.

[teeus]

cbscrash07

You are one bittertwistedloaner. Sorry we woke you up.

[bluestardad]

ITS COMING GIRLFRIEND, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THE DRAFT! NO MORE ENJOYING THE FREEDOMS BOUGHT YOU BY THE BLOOD OF MEN WHILE YOU SIT BACK AND COMPLAIN YOU ARE NOT GIVEN ENOUGH!

SOON YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FLAT BACK YOUR WAY INTO A NEW LAW COVERING YOUR LAZY BEHINDS USING INTERCOURSE WITH MORALLY BANKRUPT CONGRESSMEN AS WOMEN ARE NOW GOING TO BE IN CONGRESS IN GREATER NUMBERS AND THEY WONT PUT UP WITH YOUR MESS AS THEY HAVE EARNED THEIR POSITON THE HARD WAY THEY WORKED FOR IT!

To ensure that all Americans earn their place within society there should be no preference or exclusion deferments from National Service Registration or Compulsory Service based on Race, Religion, Gender, Education, or Financial Status. Discrimination in the United States of America stands against the very foundation of the Constitution of this great nation. It is very important that All Americans share in the privilege and responsibility of registering for and serving our Nation by Compulsory National Service.

Saturday, May 1, 2004
Selective Service eyes women's draft
The proposal would also require registration of critical skills
By ERIC ROSENBERG
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON -- The chief of the Selective Service System has proposed registering women for the military draft and requiring that young Americans regularly inform the government about whether they have training in niche specialties needed in the armed services.

[teeus]

"Yet their are women who make more than me." THERE are women. Possible, yes. Any reason why you think they shouldn't, except your god-given male-osity? Maybe they make more than you because they are better at their jobs. Just a thought.

"We hired a women at work." A WOMAN or SOME WOMEN. "I like her but I don't like the way the company gives here special considerations just because she is a woman." HER consideration. What form does this consideration take? That she had the right to work, be paid fairly and not to be harassed by the likes of a misanthrope like you?

I'm just guessing.

[teeus]

Oh, you all can stand down the outrage about that "no fair no women in the draft no fair no fair" thing.

I never asked to be excluded from the draft. I think that if males can be drafted, so should women.

Being excluded from registering for the draft is a remnant of $exism thinking imposed by aging white men in the early 80s. It is NOT something women asked for.

[truthword]

I don't hate women, I love women, and I think both sexes have certain strengths and weaknesses. Fact of the matter is the "Feminist" movement was started by the government and the CIA to get women working so they could double the tax base and get more control of children. Glorian Steinman is an admitted CIA operative. They promoted their goals through the mass media like they always do and people foolishly bought into this scam, now look at America today. Most families now consist of the woman running the household, the children running the woman, and the man if they still have one is nothing more than a breadwinner who's supposed to keep his mouth shut and let the woman and the kids run his life. You can see how well this is all working out.... Nowdays a lot of women don't even want a man, they just want a baby, and those with children will tell you that "my child is the most important thing in my life, my child comes first" well that's totally wrong also. First of all God should come first if you have a relationship with him, then your husband, then your kid, because if those things are healthy and in place, your kids a lot better off than if you put them above everything. I refuse to play 3rd fiddle in a relationship, I'd rather be single forever than have some woman and some child bossing me around.

[teeus]

Glorian Steinman....Oh, you mean Gloria Steinem?

admitted CIA operative....Maybe in CRAZYLAND.

Nowdays a lot of women don't even want a man, they just want a baby...I guess men should work a little harder at being wanted and needed and not just assume that some one will want their *** butts automatically because of their awesome male-osity.

and those with children will tell you that "my child is the most important thing in my life, my child comes first" well that's totally wrong also...That's motherhood, dude, and that's always been and will always be. Mothers nearly always put their children first., and it has nothing to do with feminism, and it's not a new phenomenon either. Jesus%u2019 mother didn't stay home to cook dinner for her husband while her child was being killed.

I refuse to play 3rd fiddle in a relationship, I'd rather be single forever than have some woman and some child bossing me around...And on behalf of all thinking women everywhere...I thank you.

[sy2502]

Most guys who whine because women are getting the same recognition at work of men are just immature and insecure. If you do such a poor job that you start to panic when you don't get an advantage over a female colleague just in virtue of your gender, you may want to start working harder. And you may want to grow up.

[silver9991]

godofredo29, you got some deep issues here, and a professional might be in order.

Register for the draft? There's no draft right now. Yes men register (and women probably should as well, but then again I'm over the age where a man or a woman would be tapped to begin with... But it's just a formality, registering.)

No woman ever bought you a drink? I've bought men entire dinners because they were awesome cool friends.

Maybe just try to stop being so bitter. Personally, I've never felt like I'm a second-class citizen because I'm a woman. I think overall women earn less on average than men in the same job, but this situation isn't going to be resoved by our being bitter, either. Either by us women, or by you.

[silver9991]

Apologies, godofredo. My post just below should have been addressed to cbscrash07.

[xrk9854]

In a response to Sierra's comments, Chris Locke responds that "it comes with the territory,"

Why?

Why is this boorish male behavior simply accepted?

It's time to hold them (men) accountable. The "Old Boys Club" should be a thing of the past!

[xrk9854]

To Bluestardad and all you other male hooligans going on about the draft. Have any of you actually done time in the service? I did about 8 years myself. Don't tell me I did nothing for the freedoms I enjoy as a woman in this country! I and millions of other women have served in the military.

[truthword]

The New York Times, February 21, 1967

Miss Steinem said she had talked to some former officers of the National Student Association, who told her C.I.A. money might be available to finance American participation in the seventh postwar festival scheduled for Vienna in the summer of 1959.
The former association officers had had ties with the C.I.A. while serving the association, which last week conceded it had taken money from the intelligence agency since 1952.

"Far from being shocked by this involvement, I was happy to find some liberals in government in those days, who were far-sighted and cared enough to get Americans of all political views to the festival," Miss Steinem said. She noted that most Americans who had attended various festivals were sympathetic to Communist policies.

The Independence [sic] Research Service, originally called the Independent Service for Information on the Vienna Festival, was organized with headquarters in Cambridge, Mass. It concentrated, Miss Steinem said, on disseminating information about the festival and urging young persons who espoused flexible, but non-Communist, foreign policy views to attend.

Miss Steinem was a full-time employe of the service till following the Helsinki festival in 1962.

About 130 youths who had made contact with the foundation did attend, although few of them received significant financial help, Miss Steinem said.

[truthword]

In 1975, a radical feminist group called Redstockings published their research on Steinem and Ms. magazine. Four years later, Random House was preparing an edition of Redstockings' Feminist Revolution. Steinem, Clay Felker (who launched Ms. and once worked for Steinem's CIA front), Katharine Graham, Warner Communications (Graham and Warner were major Ms. stockholders), and Ford Foundation president Franklin A. Thomas complained to Random House. The offending chapters were deleted and an "Abridged Edition" was published.
This abridged edition is still available from Redstockings, and you get the censored section. It contains detailed material on Steinem's early work with the CIA, and an account of how this story was censored after originally being scheduled for publication.
See also: Gloria Steinem Spies on Students for the CIA

[linfinster]

To Bluestardad and all you other male hooligans going on about the draft. Have any of you actually done time in the service? I did about 8 years myself. Don't tell me I did nothing for the freedoms I enjoy as a woman in this country! I and millions of other women have served in the military.
Posted by xrk9854 at 04:22 AM : Apr 05, 2007



Right on sister!! LOL

Bluestar, you sicken this world with your hateful words. It's not difficult to see the mindset of the pigs and scum who bully women online when reading your words.

[bluestardad]

xrk9854; God Bless and keep you for your service, and to all the Ladies that serve, Truly thank you. My daughter serves also and 24 months out of 36 months of my grandsons life she was in Iraq or Peru replacing another unit going to Iraq. She is scheduled to go to Iraq again this August.

[bluestardad]

You can see by the angry banter generated in your responses at just the thought of some Women pulling their own weight in the Security of our Great nation%u2019s defense has hit a nerve. By women being required to register for the Selective Service Draft our nation%u2019s defense will be strengthened. However some Women do not have the Character to step up to the plate and earn these Great freedoms men and some women have sacrificed in the Military to provide. These people will be on the front lines using EVERY RESOURCE, even flat backing it for congressmen, available to them in an effort to thwart those who are pushing for their inclusion in National Service. The time is soon coming where all men and women will be required to register for the draft. Get use to it as you will soon be required to register and serve in the defense of the Nation. Then when you start screaming and protesting for preferential treatment because of your gender you will have at least earned your Free Speech Rights!

[bluestardad]

actornaught; well spoken and true, thank you for the comment.

[bluestardad]

Yes Thank you I have served in the military from a private to a Captain, my family have KIAs given blood and treasure to buy your freedoms, and so have my family all the way back to the start of this country on both sides of my family, mothers and fathers, and all the women in my family are leaders both at home and in their commuinty. My family is made up of strong matriarchs, my great grandmother was a Practicing Doctor during the Civil War, tell me she did not work thru gender problems, my grandmother was a large land owner and worked in a factory during WWII and taught me how to shoot a gun on her farm, my mother was a Preacher, my wife is an accountant, feminist and is politically active, and my daughter is a Sergeant in the Army going on two combat tours. So you see I am quite comfortable around strong women. Likewise I have little sympathy for those women who lay around wanting America to GIVE THEM SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THEIR GENDER! It is time they got of their lazy backsides and earned the Freedoms in the defense of our great Nation!

[Syndicate]

What makes me angry is the fact that these are only words posted on the internet. Big Deal. Come cry to me when some one points a gun at your head. Only then wil I be able to relate and have sympathy.

[bluestardad]

Probably wouldn't be any wars if the cowards that usually start them had to spill their own blood or that of their wives, sons, daughters, husbands.

Where are the Bush twins?
Posted by newsreader2 at 12:19 PM : Apr 05, 2007


Exactly!

[actornaught]

i have to say i dont want to be associated with the ugly posts by bluestardad, in case anybody did that. they don't have the slightest relevance to this article, and they make even less sense. The only point that i see him making is that he needs massive therapy. I'm not at all saying that to lash out, he really sounds that mixed up.

but i do wonder where these people are in real life. do they sit in the next cubicle, somehow smart enough to not speak their ugly minds? do they sit at home with the shades drawn, watching Fox news? Are they just teenagers trying to see what kind of trouble they can cause?

i really am disappointed with the human psyche, sometimes.

[bluestardad]

I understand to even hint that women pull their share of defense of this nation to some would be considered UGLY POST or offensive! But the truth is that This country deserves the efforts of all those who enjoy its freedoms. Freedom is not free or given it must be earned! So ladies go down to the Selective Service Branch when you get 18 and demand your rights as Americans and register for the Draft! Until you do that you have no rights to DEMAND EQUAL ANYTHING! Make no mistake your gender will be required to register for the draft in the future. I myself have already contacted the ACLU because of this discrimination of requireing only males to register for military service!

[actornaught]

Blue, your stated message has NO RELEVANCE to this article.

However your multiple lengthy ramblings do illustrate a person that finds satisfaction in harassing women online.

Any possibly valid point is utterly drowned out by your choice of venue and inappropriate language.