A Global Warming Wish List

The Nation: New Global Warming Committee Has Great Potential And Good Foundation

(The Nation) 
And then there was Republican Mayor Rob Sisson of Sturgis, Mich. He spoke eloquently of the impact of reduced ice cover, record low water levels, and warmer temperatures that are damaging the fishing and agriculture industries in his county. Mayor Stanley Tocktoo of Shishmaref — a Northwest Alaska village of 581 people threatened by coastal erosion — told of the need for relocation before his village is destroyed (last year, the U.S. Army Corps of estimated the village could survive another 10 to 15 years). "We need to be safe from the dangers of being washed away and able to maintain our subsistence lifestyle," Tocktoo said. Representative Jay Inslee (author of a new book, "Apollo's Fire: Igniting America's Clean Energy Revolution") said that we must act now so that the people of Shishmaref are the first and last Americans who will need to relocate due to global warming. By speaking with — and giving voice to — the citizens and leaders who are experiencing the impact of global warming first-hand the Markey Committee can help personalize the fight against global warming.

5. A Bipartisan Approach

In order to make the kind of substantive changes that are needed, action will have to be taken on a bipartisan basis. This week, Al Gore noted that in Great Britain, Labour and Tories are working together — they understand that the science is settled and that a strong response is urgently needed. Gore said that the parties are arguing about the most effective solutions — not whether to take aggressive action — based on a shared realization that the "cost to our economy of not solving the crisis is devastating." In contrast, the issue here is too often framed as a partisan one. (In fact, sources within Republicans for Environmental Protection (REP) say that Minority Leader John Boehner would only appoint Republicans who are hostile to the idea of global warming to Markey's committee. So when a legislator like Representative Wayne Gilchrest — who has a sincere interest in responding to the crisis — requested an appointment to the committee he was rejected.)

But there is reason for hope. Just look at Representative Roscoe Bartlett's reaction to his global warming denialist colleagues at the Gore hearings, "It's possible to be a conservative without appearing to be an idiot." Bartlett is right, and true conservatives like President Theodore Roosevelt placed stewardship and preserving our environment and resources for future generations at the top of their agenda. Markey should make sure America hears from those Republicans who have reviewed the science and want action now — like those at REP, or Gore's allies at The Alliance for Climate Protection, former National Security Advisor to Presidents Ford and George H.W. Bush, Brent Scowcroft; and former Director of the Environmental Protection Agency under President Reagan, Lee Thomas. The sooner our country puts partisan politics aside on this issue, the quicker and more resolute action will be.

6. Centralize Findings

Many advocates suggest that the Markey Committee serve as a clearinghouse for gathering, organizing and disseminating the findings of concurrent climate hearings taking place in both the House and Senate. These hearings include those conducted by Representative John Dingell; Senators Jeff Bingaman and Pete Domenici; Senator Barbara Boxer; Energy and Air Quality subcommittee hearings, and others. The findings of these different forums and investigations need to be consolidated and used as the basis for action.

7. Describe Domestic Investment

According to the Apollo Alliance and other experts, current legislative proposals are often too vague in describing the details of domestic investment in a low-carbon economy. Industries are more likely to support low-carbon legislation — and view it as a growth opportunity — if the benefits they will receive are clearly and specifically laid out.

8. Paint A Picture

Markey told The Washington Post he is interested in taking members of Congress to Greenland: "You can see in Greenland . . . that if the huge sheet of ice — huge, massive sheet of ice melts, that the consequences are quite catastrophic." But there are also places in our own backyard which could be visited. Elizabeth Martin Perera of NRDC suggests that the Markey Committee visit the "Crown Jewels at risk" in our nation. Places like the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, where the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) judged all 59 miles of beaches at high or very high risk for rising seas. Or melting glaciers in Glacier National Park and North Cascades National Park. High temperatures and drought threatening forests in the American Southwest, including in Bandelier National Monument and Mesa Verde National Park. Visit with the governors of Arizona, California, New Mexico, Oregon and Washington state, who agreed to develop a regional target to lower greenhouse gases. They were motivated by recent droughts and suffering through perilous fire seasons. A tour of these sites could be informative for the American people and legislators.

9. Two Federal Bills

Advocates for bold leadership to fight global warming have hailed two bills in Congress: Representative Henry Waxman's Safe Climate Act, and Senators Barbara Boxer and Bernie Sanders' Global Warming Pollution Reduction Act . All aspects of these bills should be examined, and every opportunity for the public to learn about them should be pursued.

These are just some of the areas the Markey Committee could explore in order to generate the political will necessary for change. There is certainly no shortage of places, people, and organizations that can help illustrate the urgency and the benefits of responding to global warming now.

[williemcdonald]

The Truth about Global Warming -The Apocalypse
The first page of this seven page report is the condense version. Pages 2 thru 7 is a more detailed explanation for global warming. My purpose is to gain support for this report. Global warming-the apocalypse can be stopped, with your help. If not stopped the sun?s heat will dominate this planet?s weather, and generate unusual weather patterns, to the point where the only thing to eat will be other people. The real reason for global warming is the earth?s orbit around the sun is decaying, in other words the earth is moving closer to the sun, and it has nothing to do with green house gases, hole in the ozone, aerosol propellant, cfc, etc.
The earth is a planet that functions like a machine. In fact Its more like a machine, than a planet. Like a car, truck, aircraft, or rocket. The earth has a fuel system, an engine, a generator, and exhaust system. A car?s engine system generates torque, an aircraft?s engine systems generates thrust, and the earth?s engine system generates a powerful magnetic field, and the earth?s magnetic field protects all life on this planet, and beneath the oceans. The earth? magnetic field keeps the earth at a safe distance from the sun, and the core is the earth?s engine
Earth?s fuel system is referred to as oil wells/ crude oil reservoirs. They are actually self pressurizing fuel cells. Like any machine, if you were to shut off fuel to the engine, the engine will stop operating. The oil companies crude oil extraction process compromises the earth?s fuel system, and shut off fuel to the earth?s engine (the core), by releasing pressure out of the earth?s fuel system ( oil wells). Normally the pressure in a crude oil well/ reservoir is tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of pounds per square inch.
Under normal circumstance the core (the engine) stays at a constant 5000 to 7000 degrees celsius, and that?s hot enough to melt steel, and the pressure in the core is hundreds of thousands to over a million pounds per square inch. The oil is ignited long before it reaches the core, and enters the core as flames. Crude oil a hydrocarbon is capable of generating those temperatures. Hydrocarbons are used to melt, and manufacture steel. The higher the temperature in the core, the stronger the earth magnetic field. The cooler the core, the weaker the earth?s magnetic field. The earth?s engine is being fuel starved, and it is slowly cooling. As the core cools the earth?s magnetic field weakens, and the earth is being pulled closer to the sun.
The only way to reverse global warming-the apocalypse is for the oil companies to re-pressurize the earth?s fuel systems. One way this can be accomplished, by igniting the methane gas in them. The ignited gas will expand, and create the pressure need to force the remaining crude oil (fuel) into the core. This is the real cause for global warming, and the only way it can be reversed. Volcanoes are the earth?s exhaust system. Volcanoes are designed to rid the core (the earth?s engine) of spent fuel, debris, and they regulate the pressure in the core, which is generated by the combustion of crude oil. The pressure that?s release from volcanoes, carbon dioxide, sulphur dioxide, carbon monoxide, etc are ejected from volcanoes, these are all crude oil by-product. This prove crude oil is being burned in the core.
The earth, and conditions on it are changing, and not for the better. 12 noon use to be the hottest part of the day, now it 3 o?clock in the after noon, The winters are getting sunny, and warmer from latitude ( zero )to latitude (29-N, or 29-S) during winter, Both polar ice caps are melting, and the oceans are rising, The earth has shifted on it?s axes by15 degrees, the earth is moving away from the moon at 2 to 4 cm each year, floods, and tornadoes are developing in winter, instead of snow storms, 2 leap seconds had to be added to the atomic clock, because the earth rotation is slowing down, and it gets noticeably hotter every 15 to 20 years. Our grand children are in grave danger! These things have nothing to do with green house gases.
Written by: Willie McDonald: [e-mail]: 832-889-2058.

[zoroastor]

(Part I)

Yeah, okay, the greenpeace site probably couldn't be considered unbiased by anyone. Their claim is that the information comes straight from Exxon doccuments. I'm sure that most of the information is verifiable in some way. However, I'm not going to pretend I have done so.
However, the Singer thing... He has accepted money from big oil to fund his research. That doesn't necessarily mean his reasearch is unobjective, but it does give me cause to doubt. I checked the wiki listing you cited. It states that he claimed he had NO financial ties to big oil, when in fact he does.

[zoroastor]

(Part II)
I'm all in favor of companies like ExxonMobile working in alternative energy fields. I know they do spend some money on it. I have always wondered though, what is the percentage spent vs. spent in new oil exploration, etc. And I've also felt that the efforts put into finding alternative energy are like the ad campaigns by Phillip Morris against smoking. It makes a fine PR talking point, but doesn't amount to much, and doesn't account for much of their budget. I could be wrong here, as I've never researched EOM's work in that field.
Too bad you and I aren't in charge, as I'm sure we could find some middle ground that didn't flatly ignore and deny the other point of view. I'd just be happy if a panel conducted a 1 or 2 year inquiry. The members should be chosen by both parties. The results should be made public in entirety and recommendations should be followed and some mandated. Every few years as new technology and research finding become available, the issue should be revisited.

[co2max]

Hey!!!!
You gave me a Greenpeace link to tell me about Exxon???
Do you expect me to accept that as an unbiased review of that company's activity? I don't think it presents a realistic picture of anything except an activist organization's point of view, wherein they seek to go against anything that represents modern progress, technology or big business.

[co2max]

(continued)
He did do consultative work on the Kuwaiti oil fires during the aftermath of the Persian Gulf War and downplayed (probably correctly) the environmental (global) hazards they posed.
His arguments in the tobacco industry fight about 2nd-hand smoking involved making sure that real science was used to prove the point that smoking and its 2nd-hand effects could be quantitatively evaluated. He wanted to be sure that any litigation and regulation therefore would be drawn from confirmable studies, rather than be the result of mainly passionate outcries from people like myself who absolutely DESPISE smoking.

Receiving funding from an oil company does not in itself mean that he is corrupt. Anybody who receives funding from whatever source is still responsible for telling the truth. If there is evidence that Singer has lied, slandered someone or any entitity or mislead the public, he'll have to be call to account for it. Anybody on either side of the issue has a responsibility to be honest. Environmental groups with money pay big groups to sponsor their experts too. There is no difference here.
You should find out more about Exxon, in particular. We'll have alternative fuels in the future much faster because of the research currently being done by companies like XOM, than without them. Think about it. Check it out.

[co2max]

Zoroaster (sir):

Fred Singer continues to stand with dignity in my portfolio. Wikipedia, for openers provides his career run-down:
Career
In the 1940s and 50s Singer was involved in designing instruments used in satellites to measure cosmic radiation and ozone. [9]

Previous government and academic positions:

Director of the Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics, University of Maryland (1953-62)
Special advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments (1960)
First Director of the National Weather Satellite Service (1962-64)
Founding Dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences, University of Miami (1964-67)
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Water Quality and Research, U.S. Department of the Interior (1967- 70)
Deputy Assistant Administrator for Policy, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (1970-71)
Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1971-94)
Chief Scientist, U.S. Department of Transportation (1987- 89)
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[zoroastor]

Check out www.exxonsecrets.org

Uh... Now lemme see here. I gots Exxon, who makes about a billion a day, on one had. They're gonna lose big time if we take this global warmin' stuff serious. And on the other hand I gots some nameless, faceless, vague conspiracy that is in some unknown way gonna profit from global warmin. Exxon pays a bunch of science guys to "research" why there ain't no global warmin, and another bunch of independent science guys says there is. hmmmmmm. Yeah, well, uh, I guess I'm gonna go with the guys who say there ain't no global warmin. Their argument sounds more convincin'. In fact, I just heard my ditto head buddy on the radio the other day, say that even if it's true, warmer weather is nice. And he also said that there won't be no rise in sea level or nothin' cause of somethin called "displacement". Ice cubes meltin' in yor glass don't make it overflow. That's how Rush 'splained it. Gorsh he shore is a smart fella."

[zoroastor]

And then, singer, like any good neo-con lied about getting any money from the oil industry, in spite of documentation to the contrary.

[zoroastor]

CO2Max,

Your buddy Zoro here. Did you actually DO the google search on singer? You were very indignant the other day when I compared the "global warming is a fairy tale" crowd with those who don't believe cigarettes cause cancer. Yet, you defend a man who not only believed it, but wrote books to that effect.
Singer does indeed have financial ties to oil. As he does to big tobacco.
hmmmm.

[cjhr43]

I think Al Gore is the one with the "fever"

[pepperwood2]

Critics of Global Warming Receive Threats

A scientist who expresses doubt over man's impact on global warming reports said he has received death threats.

Timothy Ball, a former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg in Canada, described the threats as %u201Cnasty and personal.%u201D

"It has got really nasty and personal. I can tolerate being called a skeptic because all scientists should be skeptics,%u201D he told the UK Telegraph, %u201Cbut then they started calling us deniers, with all the connotations of the Holocaust.%u201D

Richard Lindzen, a professor of Atmospheric Science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said scientists who dissent from the alarmism have seen their funding disappear and their work derided.

"Consequently, lies about climate change gain credence,%u201D he said, %u201Ceven when they fly in the face of the science."

[co2max]

Fred Singer is a professor emeritus of physics. He is NOT on the oil industry payroll!
You people make the same stupid claim about anybody with credentials who is able to bash the human causality of global warming theory.

It just doesn't hold up.

[jimfinster]

pghlady3:

Fred Singer has no credibility on this issue. You should go google his name. He is a paid representative of the fossil fuel industry.

[pghlady3]

people need to learn to read, and not believe everything the media tells them. Per Dr. Fred Singer, President of the Science and Enviromental Policy Project, "the bulk of temperature rise in the 20th century took place before the 1940's, the increase of CO2 took place after the 1940's, whic coincided with a climate cooling between 1940 to 1975" Mr Gore is telling half truths or no truths.

[frankly6]

Marine_One

Are you a climatologist or just another ignorant parrot of the pundits?

Read the science. It's overwhelming.

Educate yourself beyond merely confirming your bias.

[marine_one]

The ocean level has been rising for eons. For those who actually listened in high school physical science, there used to be a land bridge between Alaska and Russia. Why? Because the oceans had much less water back then when we were in the middle of an ice age. And by the way, the earth has been warming up ever since, and not as a result of carbon emissions from factories and SUVs.

And why are BP America, GE, and other energy companies so willing to jump on the band wagon? Because if we do move to alternate sources of energy, they'll be the ones who'll be providing the whole nation with energy-efficient and alternative fuel systems.

This committee is just another example of the abuse of our taxes.

[hypnotoad72]

1. Who's going to be qualified, what's the pay, and all I keep hearing from executives is that there is no research for the sake of research -- which is stupid because some "wastes of time" prove to be beneficial later on. Just ask the inventors of the GUI and Java (Xerox and Sun respectively)...

2. In which country(ies) will we see these jobs? Betcha it won't be America. :(

3. Good luck. Most businesses only give a flibble about here-and-now. As with "brain drain", anything postulated by future and/or theorized events (once again, "research for its own sake") is spat upon. It's about large growth... often to compensate for something very small, probably...

4. We will always need science. Science may have gotten us into this possible mess; but it sure as heck can get us out if we try. I'll volunteer. Now look back at point #1.

5. Hah! All they do is bicker and blame each other on everything except for the following list:

* giving themselves raises.

There. That's the list. #5 was surely a joke?

6. Good luck. Most people hoarde their knowledge out of a not-quite-paranoid fear of it being misused, abused, stolen, or hijacked. They do not wish to become expendable. Maybe it's about time we all learned how to share again; that's resolve this for good.

7. ALL of our lives; including the uber-wealthy who must surely realize no amount of wealth would save them?

8. If it melts...

9. See point #5.

[fizzal-2009]

cut the parking lots in half and in effect force car pooling.

[seafang]

Hopefully, exveep Algore testified under oath before the Congress; why wouldn't he be under oath, after all what does he have to hide.
But Washington also "has a fever"; a mysterious malady where nobody ever gets charged with a crime; but they get investigated for the non crime, and if they forget what really happened, then they go to jail for the rest of their lives for lying under oath; and all over the investigation of no criminal act.

So with nothing to hide, surely old al was under oath so he can go to jail for lying to congress; and he diud lie in his testimony before the Congress; after all, the Arctic ocean sea level is falling at 2 mm per year, and not rising to flood the earth 20 ft deep as Al would have the Congress believe. But he would like to be President first before going to jail.