Truck Bombs Kill 63 Iraqis In Tal Afar

Two U.S. Soldiers, One Contractor, Killed In Scattered Violence Around The Country

(CBS/AP)  Kirkuk police 1st. Lt. Marewan Salih said the Chaldean Catholic nuns, Fawzeiyah Naoum, 85, and her 79-year-old sister, Margaret, were stabbed multiple times by two intruders who raided their home Monday night near Kirkuk's Cathedral of the Virgin in Kirkuk. They lived alone and there was no sign of a robbery, Salih said.

Margaret Naoum was stabbed seven times as she stood in the garden just outside the sisters' home. The attackers then went inside where they found Mawzeiyah Naoum lying on the sofa, recovering from eye surgery last week. She was stabbed three times.

Chaldean Catholics are an ancient Eastern sect now united with Roman Catholicism. Adherents live mainly in Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq, and most speak a dialect of Turkish.

The mortar attack in south Baghdad occurred in Abu Dasheer, a Shiite enclave in the Sunni-dominated Dora neighborhood. Police said those killed included two children, a woman and a man. It was the second mortar attack on the enclave in three days — three people were killed on Saturday.

In politics, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and President Jalal Talabani were planning to introduce legislation to allow former members of Saddam Hussein's ruling party — including those in the feared security and paramilitary forces — to resume jobs in the government or receive pensions, Iraqi officials said.

Long demanded by the U.S. to appease Iraq's once-dominant Sunni Arab minority, the measure would set a three-month challenge period after which ex-Baath party loyalists would be immune from legal punishment for their actions during Saddam's reign.

The draft law, which excludes former regime members already charged with or sought for crimes, also would grant state pensions to many Baathists, even if they were denied posts in the government or military.

The reconciliation measure is seen as an effort to short-circuit expected criticism of Iraq's government at an Arab League summit this week. Al-Maliki is said to fear rising support among U.S.-allied Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan for an Iraqi national unity government led by former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, a favorite of Washington.

The legislation is being sent to parliament under the names of al-Maliki, a Shiite, and President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd. Shiites and Kurds make up nearly 80 percent of Iraq's population, and both groups were severely oppressed by Saddam's largely Sunni regime.

A joint statement from al-Maliki and Talibani said the measure had been put to al-Maliki's Cabinet for approval but did not give details of the draft law or say when it would go to the legislature.

[dsutton13]

The old saying goes something like this "those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it." If one were to do a study of the militant side of Islam, the birthing place of the current wave of radical islamic terrorism, going back to the very beginning...submission, means permission to keep on advancing. Artificial time tables that would have our forces redeployed while guaranteeing a radical takeover of the nation are not helpful to anyone but the enemy. We need to leave Iraq, but neither the Democratic pary leadership in the nations capital or the terrorist on the ground in Iraq should dictate the terms. We should leave as soon as our military leadership believes Iraqi security services are ready to do the job themselves. A phased withdrawal with reasonable guidelines or bench marks that allow the Iraqi's to take control of their own destiny would be best. If you think the war is ugly now...just let the politicians run it...you have only to look at the mess they have produced in Washington to understand the dangers.

[grazinggoat]

Who should we side with in Iraq's civil war?
- Should we side with the Pro-Sadam Sunni extremists that hate us?
or
- Should we side with the Pro-Iranian Shia extremists that hate us?
or
- Should we just stand in the middle and get shot at?
Posted by Jebby_One

-What if we just got out of that knee-deep-sh*t smellin' quagmire our beloved incompetent president dragged us in? with the nice and error-free intel he got from the as much incompetent CIA agents. Or was it an on-purpose bogus intel?
-Talking of knee-deep sh*t, he's about to push us in another one next door to Iraq. Get the hell outta there...

RandalDS wrote:

"Been hitting the bottle a bit too much tonight jebby? What in the fu*ck does any of this have to do with Saddam or Iraq? Or are you just trying on of those famous republican diversions?"

When they have no answer or are too scared to offer an opinion that differs from their party politics, they turn to what they know best - lies and misdirection.

[randalds]

Amazing .. So when are Liberals going to start demanding the arrest and punishment of the Cook County Sheriff. Or is abuse and torture of Americans being held at big DEMOCRAT county jails acceptable to Liberals?

http://www.newsday.com/news
/nationworld/chi-dpjailbeatings-special,
0,4681239.special?coll=sns-ap-nationworl
d-headlines
Posted by Jebby_One at 02:49 AM : Mar 28, 2007

Been hitting the bottle a bit too much tonight jebby? What in the fu*ck does any of this have to do with Saddam or Iraq? Or are you just trying on of those famous republican diversions?

[jebby_one]

Neo-commie states :
Why in Hell should Saddam Hussein be responsible of the massacre of 148 Iraqi people, while our incompetent Rummy should not be held responsible of the savage treatment and torture of the 9 Iraqi prisonners under American forces occupation?

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Amazing .. So when are Liberals going to start demanding the arrest and punishment of the Cook County Sheriff. Or is abuse and torture of Americans being held at big DEMOCRAT county jails acceptable to Liberals?

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/chi-dpjailbeatings-special,0,4681239.special?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Jebby_One wrote:

"Heaven forbid but one of these three possibilities will likely be better than siding with Liberals who hate us."

They don't hate you - they just pity the fact that you haven't been able to pull your head out of your a*se long enough to see the damage that Bush has done to the United States.

[jebby_one]

Who should we side with in Iraq's civil war?
- Should we side with the Pro-Sadam Sunni extremists that hate us?
or
- Should we side with the Pro-Iranian Shia extremists that hate us?
or
- Should we just stand in the middle and get shot at?

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Heaven forbid but one of these three possibilities will likely be better than siding with Liberals who hate us.

Hey pwrslm, you've already proved to everyone what a liar you are earlier, so what are you back here for now?

To spread some more of your distorted and not very factual lies?

You need two kinds of help - first, an education, secondly, some mental help.

You're one sick little hypocritical puppy.

[randalds]

W
hy in Hell should Saddam Hussein be responsible of the massacre of 148 Iraqi people, while our incompetent Rummy should not be held responsible of the savage treatment and torture of the 9 Iraqi prisonners under American forces occupation?

Posted by grazinggoat at 01:46 AM : Mar 28, 2007

Because, sadly, many years ago our government passed a law making it illegal to sue a government employee for anything they were doing in performance of their job. This is one of the reasons military doctors do not need malpractice insurance. They can't be sued by military personal no matter how badly they screw up. If you're a service member or dependent and your doctor cuts the wrong leg off, too bad. Tough sh*it. You're out of luck.

Of course I'd b happy to pay for Rummy to go on a vacation to Germany where they have an indictment and arrest warrant pending against him for war crimes. ;-) Just in the interests of justice.

[grazinggoat]

CBS: Court Throws Out Rumsfeld Torture Case
Judge Says Former Defense Secretary%u2019s Government Position Shields Him From Being Sued

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/27/terror/main2617315.shtml

-Why in Hell should Saddam Hussein be responsible of the massacre of 148 Iraqi people, while our incompetent Rummy should not be held responsible of the savage treatment and torture of the 9 Iraqi prisonners under American forces occupation?

[randalds]

Thank you as do you. Remember "Nothos nos permolere non sinimus" which loosely translated means don't let the bas*tards get you down.

;-)

[micma-2009]

RandalDS

Glad to see you on these boards setting them straight.

You do a good job.

[randalds]

RandalDS

You are well spoken and well informed but you will never convince someone with his mental illness. I find that rather than simply stating the facts, asking questions that lead to the facts is more effective. It usually sends them running away as they can't answer without losing their grip on delusion.


Posted by micma at 01:03 AM : Mar 28, 2007

LOL! Loved the man boobs line. It's true that some of these fools from the right come on here and make wild claims without bothering to check into them. Once you present them with the facts they are flabbergasted. They can't understand why people don't just take them at their word since that's what they do when they're being spoon fed by the White House and FOX Noise. I know I can't change them, but it's still nice to kick the cr*ap (literally) out of one of them once in awhile.

[micma-2009]

RandalDS

He'll be back after he's suckled at Limbaugh's ample manboobs.

[micma-2009]

RandalDS

You are well spoken and well informed but you will never convince someone with his mental illness. I find that rather than simply stating the facts, asking questions that lead to the facts is more effective. It usually sends them running away as they can't answer without losing their grip on delusion.

[randalds]

Who should we side with in Iraq's civil war?

Should we side with the Pro-Sadam Sunni extremists that hate us?

or

Should we side with the Pro-Iranian Shia extremists that hate us?

or

Should we just stand in the middle and get shot at?


Posted by micma at 12:51 AM : Mar 28, 2007

Well stated. As for pwrslm I think his mommy must have snuck down the basement stairs and told him to stop surfing for porn like the last time she caught him. By now he's probably safely in bed with his tail tucked firmly between his legs to ease the pain of the as*skicking he just got. lol!

[micma-2009]

pwrslm

How many lives and how much money should we spend in Iraq before we as American citizens have earned the right to expect some acountability from the Bush administration for what we are doing there and how it's going?

Should we just write him a blank check? Should we just send him our children and keep our mouths shut?

[micma-2009]

Who should we side with in Iraq's civil war?

Should we side with the Pro-Sadam Sunni extremists that hate us?

or

Should we side with the Pro-Iranian Shia extremists that hate us?

or

Should we just stand in the middle and get shot at?

[randalds]

This has been a consistent number for a good while. 500,000 children died of dysentary in Iraq after Saddam used clean water facilities as propoganda against UN Sanctions (while he build palaces and disney style resorts for his friends complete with modern water/sewer facilities and solid gold spikets).

Or do you want to deny facts and play patsy?
Posted by pwrslm at 05:21 PM : Mar 27, 2007

This is your orginal claim word for word. It's horse sh*it. You, in effect, claim that there was some sort of one cause mass murder of young children by Saddam. This is sh*it and I proved it was. There is no evidence that this happened. The opnly evidence that 1/2 million children died pre-war was a UNICEF report that used statistics from the Iraqi government of Saddam.

Your credibility in this forum is gone. You are a liar.

[micma-2009]

pwrslm

How many failed Bush plans should Americans endure?