Blair Warns Iran On Fate Of Seized Sailors

British Prime Minister Denies Claim That 15 U.K. Sailors And Marines Were In Iranian Waters

(CBS/AP)  British Prime Minister Tony Blair warned Iran on Sunday that the fate of 15 British sailors and marines seized off the Iraqi coast was a "fundamental" issue for his government, as Tehran suggested the group may be put on trial for violating Iranian waters.

British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett spoke by telephone with Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki late Sunday, and reiterated London's position that the British sailors and marines were operating in Iraqi waters.

She asked that British diplomats be allowed to meet with the sailors and demanded their safe return, the Foreign Office said. In Jerusalem, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice also called for their release.

"The detention of British sailors and marines by the Iranian government is becoming increasingly provocative the longer the troops remain in Iranian custody and has the potential of escalating to a military confrontation with so many U.S. and British troops and aircraft carriers in the Gulf," said CBS News foreign affairs analyst Pamela Falk.

"Signaling the continuation of the standoff, the Iranian Foreign Minister said at a press conference in New York on Sunday that Iran is considering charging the British troops with illegally entering Iranian waters," Falk reported.

At a European summit in Berlin, Blair said Iran's claim that the sailors had crossed into Iranian territorial waters "is simply not true."

"I want to get (the situation) resolved in as easy and diplomatic a way as possible," Blair said, but added he hoped the Iranians "understood how fundamental an issue this is for the British government."

On a visit to the Middle East, Rice told reporters that the sailors and marines should be released immediately and said "we all fully trust the British" that the service members were not in Iranian waters when they were seized Friday.

But the Iranians also stuck by their view that the British had violated Iranian territory.

"The Iranian authorities intercepted these sailors and marines in Iranian waters and detained them in Iranian waters. This has happened in the past, as well," Mottaki said in Persian through a translator.

"The charge against them is illegal entrance into Iranian waters," Mottaki said. "In terms of legal issues, it's under investigation."

Mottaki declined to provide the exact coordinates of where the Britons were seized, saying this "very detailed information has been submitted to the representatives of the United Kingdom."

A spokesman for Britain's defense ministry said they were not releasing the coordinates.

British, Israeli and Saudi media reports on Sunday suggested that Iran was hoping to trade the captured Britons for Iranian officials it claims have been abducted by the West in recent months.

Britain and the United States have said the sailors and marines had just completed a search of a civilian vessel in the Iraqi part of the Shatt al-Arab waterway when they were intercepted by the Iranian navy.

Iranian state news agency IRNA said British Ambassador Geoffrey Adams had spoken in Tehran with Ibrahim Rahimpour, the foreign ministry official in charge of western Europe, and asked about the condition of the British sailors and marines.

He was told by Rahimpour that they were "well and sound" and that "legal proceedings" were under way in their case. No other details were provided.

According to IRNA's English-language Web site, Adams said during the meeting that the British service members had been deployed in Iraq to establish security, and had no hostile intention toward Iran.

"Tehran has always exercised self-restraint in the face of border violations by the British troops," Rahimpour was quoted as saying. But after the "contradictory statements" in the seizure of the British, the case "required an inquiry into such suspicious events."

Lord Triesman, a Foreign Office under-secretary who had held talks with Iran's ambassador on Saturday, told Sky News there was good evidence the men were in Iraqi waters, but that the issue of whether the sailors had strayed into Iranian waters was only a technical one.

"I've been very clear throughout that the British forces do not ever intentionally enter into Iranian waters," he said. "There's no reason for them to do so, we don't intend to do so and I think people should accept there's good faith in those assertions."

Iran's top military official, Gen. Ali Reza Afshar, said on Saturday the seized Britons were taken to Tehran for questioning and had confessed to what he called an "aggression into the Islamic Republic of Iran's waters." He did not say what would happen to them but said all were being treated well and were in good health.

Tehran has described the incident as a "blatant aggression," but Britain has repeatedly insisted the sailors were in Iraqi waters in the Shatt al Arab waterway between Iraq and Iran.

The EU also has been pushing hard diplomatically to secure the sailors' release. Germany, which holds the EU's rotating presidency, had its ambassador in Tehran raise the issue with the Iranian government.

Rajanews.com, a Persian Web site of supporters of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, quoted a senior diplomat as saying the Britons were still being held by Iranian armed forces and would not be released until they promised "not do similar things in future."

The capture and detention of the British service personnel risks escalating an already fraught relationship between Iran and the West.

The U.N. Security Council of Saturday agreed to moderately tougher sanctions against Iran for its refusal to meet U.N. demands that it halt uranium enrichment. Many in the West fear Tehran's nuclear program is not for power generation but for arms making, a claim Iran denies.

[wdrussell1]

The words have been changed. The Brits stop and board ships, from soverign nations, on the high seas. They want to check and see if there is anything they want to conficate. Huh, 200 years ago that was called piracy.

[obiquital]

Yes and if the ship happened to be smuggling weapons or things to make IEDs or EFPs then what would you say about this "piracy"?

[zootallures2]

Yo, Blair, make speech and call them Irainians evil doers and get your navy in a fire fight with 'em.

Yo, Olmert, tell Abbas no peace cause he wore the wrong tie.

Now I'm goin ta Dubai fer som R and R to get away from these smelly horses... no, I don't mean Al and Condi... he he he

[samrensho]

Nuke 'em, Danno

[zootallures2]

Yes and if the ship happened to be smuggling weapons or things to make IEDs or EFPs then what would you say about this "piracy"?
Posted by obiquital at 10:13 AM : Mar 25, 2007

IEDs or EFPs? New name for Drone or Apache rockets?

[zootallures2]

USA USA how many you gonna murder today?
You and Russia up in space,
But God don't wana see your ugly face.
All just fakes and lies you tell
But your gonna wind up down in hell.

[book54552134]

Hummm.

Maybe the British will do America's dirty work of starting war with Iran. Lord knows, Blair is little more than Dubya's puppet.

[patriotic9]

It seems to me that Iranian are playing same game their counterpart Hezbollah played last year.They are encouraging United States and Great Britain to attack Iran and then return back from Iran humiliated,defeated and insulted the same way EUROPEAN INVADERS IN PALESTINE were forced to pull their troops out of Lebanon without getting their sodiers released from HEZBOLLAH's custody.

The real winner in this war is IRAN and the worst losers are UNITED STATES,ENGLAND and the EUROPEAN INVADERS IN PALESTINE.
Bush has done what nobody else could ever do.Bush, You the man.Neocons lead the way!

[migrainegram]

Hmmmmm. Shrub might just get to go affter Iran after all -- albeit through the back door

Tony picks up the fight and Shrub supports him because of the alliance.

Maybe Iran had this planned all along...

[hillaryin08]

zootallures2, sweet dreams, were coming for ya

[jdweymouth]

I love liberals. Here are the Iranians kidnapping British sailors (Brits: your countrymen. Americans: your allies), and you start defending Iran, or at the very least attacking Britain, and America. You people really need to be examined by a psychiatrist. Scratch that: psychiatristS. You people need to go to the pychyatric department of the University of Vienna (supposedly #1 pychiatric department in the world), and need to be examined by a team. But there may be no need; the explanation may simply be this, you're all traitors, and need to be shot!

[nothappyatall]

I predicted this months ago, another Tonkin Bay "incident" that will cause the Bush regime to use as an "excuse" to invade like we did to Vietnam under false pretenses.

Google Tonkin Bay and read about THAT farce, history repeats itself and the Brits were in IRANIAN waters where they were not supposed to be and were seized just as WE seize ships and arrest people who invade OUR waters.

The Iranians have every right to seize ships and people in THEIR territory, just as we do. The lesson to be learned here is stay OUT of other country's territory unless invited or suffer the consequences.
I preduct Bush will begin his invasion in some form before summer, this was planned all along and is why he always refused to set a withdrawl timetable and ordered MORE troops to Iraq, he now has all the ships, equipment and troops to begin yet another war against yet another country under false pretenses while you dumb sheeple pay for it and support "the troops"

[jdweymouth]

Could you people at least FEIGN outrage over the fact that our enemies are trying to pull a fast one on us?

[jdweymouth]

newster1:

The sailors, and marines weren't in Iranian territory: they were in Iraqi territorial waters by testimony of the British government, local fisherman who witnessed the incident, and by the HMS Cornwall.

[ultramafic23]

zootallures2 I have some advice.
Dig a really deep hole, put all your belongings in it. next, you get in it.Bring your golf clubs
because if your tribe keeps this up you'll all be living on a glass golf course!

[generey]

The Iranians have every right to seize ships and people in THEIR territory, just as we do. The lesson to be learned here is stay OUT of other country's territory unless invited or suffer the consequences.
I preduct Bush will begin his invasion in some form before summer, this was planned all along and is why he always refused to set a withdrawl timetable and ordered MORE troops to Iraq, he now has all the ships, equipment and troops to begin yet another war against yet another country under false pretenses while you dumb sheeple pay for it and support "the troops"
Posted by newster1 at 11:31 AM : Mar 25, 2007

Exactly!!! As for the troops; I do support them as they are following orders as I once did, under the military UCMJ and threat of court martial if orders are not followed. But anyway; here we go again, this time Iran.

[karlimhof]

As we observe this incident, which has happened before, and is usually solved in a week, let us remember how we "lost" Iran....

The brits were angry with Iran's democratically elected PM Dr. Mosaddegh (1951) because he had the gall to nationalize his country's oil exploitation! Why? Because BP (another name at the time) refused to pay increased royalties to the iranian government.

So the brits told Eisenhower that Mosaddegh was planning a soviet style government (in an Islamic counry! Shows us how savvy we are and were about middle eastern culture)!

We disposed Mosaddegh and installed the Shah and for that we got the Islamic Revolution in 1979 and "lost" Iran.

With Bushit at the helm, we may succeed in losing Iran a second time.

[freeus2]

Another crisis manufactured by incompetent so called leaders, Shrub, B-Lier, and Ahmadinejad (where is Olmert today?) to distract the population and stay in power, for the benefit of their masters. Yes, shrub started this one when he sent in our boys to kidnap 5 of theirs from their consular office).

Next, let's shoot down another one of their civilian airliners (and blame it on them terrorist eye-ranians themselves)!

[whammo1963]

Why did the Brits give up so easily, especially if they were in the right? They just allowed themselves to be captured? With not a single shot fired? That sounds fishy to me...

[freeus2]

Jdweymouth, please read the news instead of just watching it on Fox TV. The Iraqi general in charge of Iraq's territorial waters (and Iraqi fisherman) said that the Brits were not in Iraqi waters. British MoD first claimed that they were in international waters, then Iraqi waters, and then again, "Contested" waters, and now "Not in Iranian waters", doesn't that sound like the Brits did not know where the heck they were? (Not that the truth serves any purpose here)

[rstein6]

Do you want to know how to end terrorism once and for all?. This is not very pleasant and
probably is in disagreement with the UN and the United States, but lets face it back in 1917
under the Balfour declaration where Arthur James Balfour wrote a letter to Lord Walter
declaring in the of Zionism that a Jewish State
would be approved by the British Parliament actually for corporate control and not for anything else. The Zionism is just propaganda
which is used to brainwash the naiive.
With the fall of the Ottoman Turkish empire
Britain and France had acquired a large piece
of real estate. They wanted economic control and
political control. Later on in 1948 under the UN partition plan the UN under the care of the US decided conveniently to relocate the Jews given the fact that the Jews came out the Concentration camps. By the way the Arabs actually sympathized with the Jewish plight and actually welcomed the jewish settlers, however, it turned out when it became colonized thats when the the wars started and the terrorism stated. Brilliant.
Thanks to the British Stink and the US hypocrisy
Israel had nothing but boodbath after bloodbath,
has it been worth it?

[krotec54]

The Iranian government needs a bargaining chip to release five Iranians and the U.N.'s new sanctions against Iran are canceled.
Iran will lose alot if this continues, We may pay more for gas again, Iranians may feel the sanctions soon.

[lars008-2009]

SAVAGELY BEATEN, TORTURED & RAPED

Iranian-Canadian photojournalist Zahra Kazemi was savagely beaten, tortured and raped while in Iranian custody in 2003, according to Dr. Shahram A%u2019zam, an emergency-room doctor who examined her before she died.
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2005/april-2005/kazemi_report_1405.shtml
http://www.buzztracker.org/2005/04/01/Tehran.html

[lars008-2009]

THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTION

TELLS MUSLIMS TO R A P E BABIES AND ANIMALS

Imam Khomeini - Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
http://www.homa.org/default.asp?TOCID=2083225445
http://profiles.yahoo.com/arabgoatsspeakout
Man forced to marry goat in southern Sudan
http://www.sudantribune.com/article.php3?id_article=1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4748292.stm
CBC head quits after defecation, bestiality remarks
Guy Fournier created an uproar in Canada's Lebanese community and in the media when he claimed that Lebanon allowed men to have sexual relations with female animals, but reserved the death penalty for those who did so with male animals.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-09-20T122515Z_01_N19422715_RTRUKOC_0_US-CBC1.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

[bushfan3]

I think Iran's time is up.

[petesis]

I say we punish them. Not invade mind you. Tear up some of their military installations along the water. If Britain must fight, we must be with them.

[lars008-2009]

I NO LONGER SUPPORT THE OCCUPATION

The real %u201Coccupation%u201D
1400 years of muslim occupation

muslims, whose home is Arabia, have occupied and brutalized for centuries.

During that time, non muslims have...

been murdered en masse
had their land stolen
their holy places destroyed and desecrated
been sold into slavery
their women raped
their children butchered

and the arabs have the nerve to whine about "occupation" when non muslims fight back

I NO LONGER SUPPORT MUSLIM OCCUPATION

[lars008-2009]

Ali Sina, an ex-Muslim from Iran. He is the creator of Faithfreedom.org.

Yet I know that by eradicating Islam we can save the world from the dangers of a catastrophe that otherwise is looming over our heads and could cause more disaster than the 1st and 2nd World Wars combined. Eradication of Islam means restoring peace among humanity and civility, democracy and prosperity in the Muslim world.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/why_i_left_islam.htm

[lars008-2009]

there is no peace with fascist nazi islam%u2026.. there never has been in it%u2019s 1400 year existence%u2026

dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone....

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses.....

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2007/691/
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2002_winter_spring/terrorism.htm

[petesis]

Dear lars008

How can you combine fascist nazi and islam and think it means something other than what your FOX masters tell you?

Do you even know what Fascism means? And as for Nazi? That was and is still a christian movement.

[lars008-2009]

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

[lars008-2009]

FASCIST NAZI ISLAM / PERFECT EXAMPLE OF FASCISM!!!
Fascist nazi islam is intent on killing or enslaving all non muslims......

The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.

Simply stated, a fascist government always has one class of citizens that is considered superior (good) to another (bad) based upon race, creed or origin. It is possible to be both a republic and a fascist state. The preferred class lives in a republic while the oppressed class lives in a fascist state.
http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm

[lars008-2009]

It is convenient for liberals and fascist nazi Islamic muslims to forget that the "Grand Mufti of Jerusalem" went to Germany as a guest of Hitler during WWII...and begged Hitler to find the "final solution" to the jewish problem. This same Grand mufti used his influence to raise Two Muslim SS Divisions in Yugoslavia (Kosovo) and Albaina. These divisions were responsible for the murder of almost 1 Million jews, Serbs and Gypsies.

This same Grand Mufti was the maternal uncle of Yassir Arafat! The Mufti's war continues today worldwide.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=grand+mufti of jerusalem

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138459&tid

[patriotic9]

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

lars
Dude,that's a new thing for me!
So you mean to say that Thomas Jefferson was a Crusader just like Bush.He killed plenty of people because of believing in a different God or the same God with different name?
You mean to say that United States is not fighting against Terrorism but fighting against Islam and muslims long before 9/11, since the time of Sir Thomas Jefferson.According to what you say,United States is an enemy of ISLAM and MUSLIMS and long before 9/11,Sir Thomas Jefferson had killed plenty of Muslims because of being muslims.
Nobody ever helped RADICAL ISLAM and MUSLIMS more then PSYCHOTIC CHRISTIANS like you whether it was REAGAN's help to OSAMA BEEN-FORGOTTEN,Bush giving US tax payed money on ethe name of REBUILDING IRAQ to an ISLAMIC RADICAL "MALIKI" for the killing of US troops or you proving that Americans including the founders of our constitution like Sir Thomas Jefferson were always enemies of Islam and Muslims and muslims took revange of the killing of muslims by the hands of SIR THOMAS JEFFERSON on 9/11.

[jerr11]

BUSH HAS BEEN IRAN'S GREATEST FRIEND!

He removed their only rival in the Mid-East, Saddam.

He removed a secular Sunni dictator Saddam and replaced him with an Iran-backed Shiite religious dictator Moqtadre.

He tied up all our resources in Iraq for no other reason than to enrich his neocon buddies, and now Iran has free rein to do whatever it wishes, because it knows we we completely powerless!

Under him, the price of oil skyrocketed and now Iran is flush with oil money to sponsor more terrorism against the West.

WITH "ENEMIES" LIKE BUSH, WHO NEEDS FRIENDS!

[torocaca]

lars is a troll who likes to 'hog' the comment board with his crapp.

A troll is an individual who chronically posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life, as in, %u201COh, ignore him, he's just a troll.%u201D

[lars008-2009]

Mohammad ethnically cleansed the Jews from Medina:
http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005/08/mohammeds-ethnic-cleansing.html

[down-ndirty]

This is a ploy to drag the U.S. into attacking Iran. The U.S. Navy and Air Force feel 'neglected' because they are not part of the 'main action' in Iraq and they have been lobbying for war with Iran to exercise their new weapons.

KAREN KWIATKOWSKI: You know, I think...one of the big reasons that Bush and Cheney think they can do Iran is that...well, they%u2019re hearing from the Air Force and the Navy, two of the three main branches of our military, the two that have been left out of the glory of Iraq... And those guys want a piece of the action, and so they%u2019re advertising to the Administration and publicly...you can read it for yourself, the Air Force and the Navy have targets they believe they can overwhelmingly hit their targets, deep penetration, possibly nuclear weapons, I mean, nothing is off the table as *** Cheney says %u201Cnothing is off the table.%u201D

Read the rest at:
http://www.truthdig.com/interview/item/20070227_pentagon_whistleblower_on_the_coming_war_with_iran

[freeus2]

I asked "(where is Olmert today)" before, looks like he is posting as lars008. Mr. Olmert, you are at the wrong forum. Please go back to Fox TV!

[lars008-2009]

From the co-founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

"Muslim institutions, schools and economic power should be strengthened in America. Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam ...... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32341
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=cair+council american islamic relations

[karlimhof]

Blair said in Berlin, adding "I want to get it resolved in as easy and diplomatic a way as possible."

that does not sound as if 007 is on his way to Tehran - almost as if the boys may have been playing in the neighbors yard !

All you "nuke Iran" specialists should take some yoga classes - controlled breathing - keeps your agressivity down.

I certainly would not like to your neighbor - I'd probably get shot knocking on the door for a cup of sugar!

[tbweb]

Iran claims the British Royal Navy committed blatant aggression. Inspecting a suspect ship in what appears to now be disputed waters is not blatant aggression. Its obvious the Iranian definition of blatant aggression has been lost in translation. Hopefully Iran will lower tensions, release the Royal Navy sailors and come back to its senses before the British and U.S. 5th Fleet demonstrate to Iran with a real-life example what blatant aggression is and what it looks like!

[lars008-2009]

PISSLAM WANTS PEACE/OF YOUR COUNTRY!!!

& ANOTHER PIECE & ANOTHER PIECE & ANOTHER PIECE & ANOTHER PIECE & ANOTHER PIECE LIKE THEY R DOING AROUND THE WORLD.......

they use terror to break off pieces of india, yugoslavia, greece, they are trying it in the philippines, thailand, china, russia, europe, africa, etc etc etc.....

fascist nazi islam muslims celebrate year of the pig chinese new year
Thai Bombs Linked to Chinese New Year, Military Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/19/world/asia/19cnd-thai.html?ex=1329541200&en=ba4ce1c67a193404&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

India, Pakistan seek peace after bombing
Indian officials say militants are responsible for a train bombing that left at least 66 people dead.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070219/ap_on_re_as/india_train_fire

[lars008-2009]

THE FROGS GOT ONE THING RIGHT!!!

Chirac threatens nuke terror for terrorism
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/73926

Chirac: Nuclear Response to Terrorism Is Possible
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/19/AR2006011903311.html?nav=hcmodule

[karlimhof]

lars008 - have you given yet?

Your support of AIPAC's vital work is a reflection of your commitment to the U.S.-Israel relationship. Your charitable or non-charitable bequest can help ensure that friendship endures, no matter what the future holds.

Israel's biggest challenges may lie ahead. With half of Congress changing every decade, who will Israel's friends be 20 years from now? With American Jews comprising less than 1.5 percent of the population in 80 percent of America's congressional districts, who will advocate for a strong U.S.-Israel relationship a generation from now?

By putting AIPAC in your will, you can.



lars- better move quick - the naziislamofacists are going to get you sooner than later...

[egotistic]

lars is a muslim posting his jihads propoganda on US news sites...hasn't anyone noticed the upbeat in pro-muslim replies on these boards for the past few years?

3rd world country propoganda war tactics...ROFL!

[lars008-2009]

I NO LONGER SUPPORT THE OCCUPATION

The real %u201Coccupation%u201D
1400 years of muslim occupation

muslims, whose home is Arabia, have occupied and brutalized for centuries.

During that time, non muslims have...

been murdered en masse
had their land stolen
their holy places destroyed and desecrated
been sold into slavery
their women raped
their children butchered

and the arabs have the nerve to whine about "occupation" when non muslims fight back

I NO LONGER SUPPORT MUSLIM OCCUPATION

[lars008-2009]

WHY ARE THEIR NO MUSILM COUNTRIES WHERE NON MUSLIMS

ARE GANTED EQUAL RIGHTS?

OR MUSLIM WOMEN FOR THAT MATTER?

Malaysia women 'suffer apartheid'
The daughter of Malaysia's former prime minister has launched a scathing attack on the roles and status of Muslim women in the country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4784784.stm
A matter of tolerance
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/2006/12/matter-of-tolerance.html
Marina Mahathir
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/

[bildooreilly]

The issue is whether the Western media, most obviously that of the United States, can be manipulated in order to bring about a military deplyment; and if so how this can be done. - MANIPULATING THE MEDIA - Stephen Badsey British Ministry Of Defence


"The true enemy in perception warfare will be your own mind. The perception management team will try in every way to create a vision for the observer that suits its goals. It is in your own mind that the actual picture of the situation is created."

Joint Doctrine states that "The fact deception was used on an operation should be protected, both to allow the use of the same deception techniques and tactics in later operations and to protect sensitive deception methods."

Covert Operation - An operation that is so planned and executed as to conceal the identity of or permit plausible denial by the sponsor. Emphasis is plased on concealment of identity of the the sponsor rather than concealment of the operation. (JP 3-05.1)

[kaili3]

This is America right, i mean we have not slipped into some third world country yet.
why are some people sticking up for Iran?
we need to band together here everyone,England is our 1 allie.
let's work together.