NEW YORK, March 25, 2007

More Veterans Calling The Streets Home

An Estimated 200,000 U.S. War Veterans Are Homless

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(CBS)  Hassam Elgoarany knows the price of war.

He fought in Afghanistan and then in Iraq, where a sniper's bullet took his best friend.

"His head got blown off — I get nightmares about that," said Elgoarany.

The Muslim-American sailor drowned that pain in alcohol, reports CBS News correspondent Michelle Miller, but drinking only led to an early discharge.

Back at home, he couldn't find work. His wife took their baby boy and left. Robbery led to prison.

When he got out, Hassam became one of many homeless veterans.

"We have no inkling of the full scope of the problem," said Roy Kearse, vice president of Samaritan Village, a state-funded homeless shelter for veterans with addictions.

At Samaritan Village, Hassam found men who understood his downward spiral.

"They're returning home, they're running into obstacles and problems and all of the mechanisms aren't in place to get to them," said Kearse.

One in three homeless Americans is a veteran.

On any given night in this country, an estimated 200,000 are living on the streets.

Many served in Vietnam, but experts expect the number of Iraq veterans to swell in coming years.

The Veterans Administration can provide beds to only 14,000 veterans, though it told CBS News its shelters aren't filled to capacity and that it offers what it called "very good" services to homeless veterans.

As President Bush orders more troops to Iraq, the Senate Committee on Veteran's Affairs wants more focus on those coming home.

"The president did not mention the word 'veteran' in his State of the Union address," said Senator Daniel Akaka, D-AK, chairman of the Committee on Veterans Affairs.

Akaka has asked Congress to more than double the president's request for funding next year — 4.8 billion dollars more to help not just the physically wounded but the emotionally scarred.

"They train you to transfer from a civilian to a killing machine," said Elgoarany. "When you get out they should have trained me to go back into being a civilian."

The Army says one in three Iraq veterans will return home with mental health issues. Sooner or later, caring for them will become another cost of war.

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by colonna98 March 27, 2007 11:34 AM EDT
Nightmares about your buddy getting his head shot off are self-indulgent. Get over it and visit your buddy's family - see if you can heal together.

My husband spent two tours in Vietnam as a helicopter pilot. I know about what I speak.
Posted by Barbaraf4 at 08:43 AM : Mar 26, 2007

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The ignorance of Barbaraf4 is beyond comprehension. If her husband served 2 tours in Vietnam as a helicopter pilot and they have no problems, someone isn't telling the truth.

Getting over seeing your buddy die in combat is about a simple as getting over seeing your child die in a car accident.

I'm sure Barbaraf4's family would help her "get over it."

Ignorance is bliss when you don't even have a clue.
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by firststate March 27, 2007 2:21 AM EDT
lestb35
According to your post, I can *** about the war. I said we shouldn't invade Iraq because Saddam tried to have Duh-baya's daddy killed. There was no need for the rush, the inspectors could have been allowed to finish their work. I've been against the war since it was a sadistic gleam in the moron's eyes, but I've always supported our troops.

As an analogy, consider: McDonald-Douglas built the DC-10 to compete with Boeing's 747. The airlines that bought the aircraft were very happy with the obvious quality of the workmanship it assembly showed. McDonald-Douglas used their best assembly teams to build them, so assembly errors were almost never found after they were delivered. One day the port engine fell off a DC-10 on takeoff from Chicago. The specifications for the bolts that attached the engine to the wing's part of the airframe had been miscalculated. That design flaw was fatal for all aboard the aircraft. The assemblers had built the plane exactly to the specifications they were given. They deserve praise for their quality work, but the highest quality in their performance couldn't prevent the screwed up design from bringing the aircraft down. The military's situation is similar. They have performed impeccably, but their quality efforts can't compensate for the flawed plans they carry out. From the time some neo-con political hacks overruled the military's best planners and sent in too few troops, the war was FUBAR and didn't improve.
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by kenkmh March 27, 2007 12:54 AM EDT
I am a Vet - Vietnam two tours three bronz stars -
Trying to make ends meet with $900 a month from the VA & it's not working home wise! I get care from the VA but long delays to being put off!
Trying to make ends meet today is not easy and YOU ask get a job true and if I do I lose the money I get from the VA and they have to go to pay for health care!
Yes I wish I could work with two byepasses and five stents - agent orange - type 2 diabites - copd........I am un able to work -
I figular by the end of 2007 I also will be homeless! my rent alone is $460 + Elec - gas for heating - food and on it goes - others said food stamps I can't get them I make to much money for food stamps & when last checked I would get $10 a month lol a joke - help for vets there is none! Do any of congress or others care NO -
so yes more of us on the streets soon from wars gone by to yes what is going on daily!
I just wish the people of the USA would stand up for us vets and give us what is due to us and give us the help a woman with kids can get off the street!
but being a man who went to war for his country i get penneys to live on and no help or a thought of what is happening to him ME today!

You do good for your country then get thrown to the streets when you get home:
I will see the rest of the vets on the streets soon

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by lestb35 March 27, 2007 12:28 AM EDT
Having the country against the war is another reason vets have a hard time assimilating. They have enough to deal with in switching from military to civilian life without wondering if what they did was right or wrong. It's like telling a child that their parents are bad but they're good. How can we honor the work they've done when we don't support the work they're doing. Honor the troops unconditionally and without reservation. They are doing important work. If you don't believe it you should have spoken up prior to the invasion.
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by nynative1340 March 26, 2007 10:30 PM EDT
What ever happened to the Soldiers and Sailors Civil Relief Act (SSCRA)? It's supposed to relieve (but not remove) military members of some of the obligations they incurred prior to entering the service.

For instance, a service member may terminate a lease agreement signed prior to entering active duty. Their interest rate can be capped at 6%. They can't be evicted if their rent is less than $1200 (well, that won't work anywhere in SoCal).

The SSCRA is still alive and well. However, the problem is that it requires affirmative action on the part of the military member, and most members don't know about it or don't take the necessary action to use it.
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by nynative1340 March 26, 2007 10:18 PM EDT
"Found out from a friend that worked there, that the position I was to occupy was given to the nephew of somebody in the personnel dept. Oh, I scored 103 out of 105 possible with my vets pref. The one who got the job, never had or has served." Posted by Klingon69

Sounds familiar. Although I was a senior electronics technician with 28 years service, the post office turned me down. That's funny (in a sick way) because my mail is constantly delivered to the wrong street.

Many of the postal employees I know can't even spell their own name...
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by nynative1340 March 26, 2007 10:04 PM EDT
"Where the hell did you get that figure from. Now the population in 1945 was less than 140,000 according Government records. Would you care to tell us WHERE you got the 10 percent there Herr Gunnerv. When you take 10% of 140,000 you get 14,000." Posted by skyk

You're off by a few zeros, skyk.

The U.S. population in 1939 was approximately 139 MILLION (six zeros).

The number who served was over 19.75 MILLION (14.2% of the population).

The number killed/missing was 462 THOUSAND (2.34% of those who served); number of wounded was almost 690 THOUSAND.

Over 130 THOUSAND U.S. military members were POWs.

Ironically, the Axis powers suffered far less deaths than the Allied powers did: 12 MILLION to 50 MILLION.

Source is the DoD as reported by Wikipedia.

Search on "World War II" and World War II casualties"
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by pattipace7 March 26, 2007 8:20 PM EDT
While our politicians are voting on the needed emergency funding for VAMCs a new type of DRAFT should be implemented;Out of Patriotic duty, humanity, and the future of our economy, just one fourth of the more affluent private medical/mental health facilities should be directed to use their office and expertise just a few hours a month for some of our young veterans. By temporally picking up the slack for the grossly under funded, over booked and under staffed VAMCs, each of our young children/veterans will have a chance to resume a comfortable life as a productive member of the society for which they offered to give up their own life to serve and protect.
ps- even attorneys do pro-bono to help out society. since WWI the medical field and drug companies have greatly benefited from the research they have done involving our veterans. A few months ago 60 minutes did a segment entitled A Pill To Forget? It was about the old drug used for high blood pressure called Propranolol which they now believe can be used to cure PTSD because they believe this drug, if prescribed off-label can help the memory be erased. The story ended saying the military has provided funding to test this theory on veterans returning home from this war. It is time the private medical community return the favor/knowledge they have already received from our veterans. Too many veterans from past wars have already ended up as just another number in a research project.

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by gunnerv1 March 26, 2007 6:38 PM EDT
skyk: Are you sure that the population in the US in 1945 was only 140,000. Think now, I'll spell it out for you, "One Hundred Forty Thousand" (and no sense) Are you sure you don't mean One Hundred Forty Million (140,000,000) Then take 10% (ten per cent) of that and see what you get? A small hint , it's more than you can count on your finger, toes and with your pants unzipped and thats what your doing right now, Play with yourself. And no, I'm not a NAZI. (but Hillery is)
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by michellem99-2009 March 26, 2007 6:35 PM EDT
I read the story and it is so heart breaking to watch on TV the war in Iraq. I don't know what you vets went thru. I was brought up to thank them. I am 52 and I have flag mouse pad that my vet roommate hung in my computer area. I was born multi-handicpped plus legally blind so there are those of us who can't serve. My vet friend feel that able body men/womem should serve. I have met homeless and sick vets. They don't want pity but the young can't handle the fact their love one becomes disabled and walk out. I don't want the Bible readers to have a tizzy over this. I don't base my life on a book ages old.This nation should be there for vets. My Dad served this nation. He wanted to and did. Thanks the CBS Evenig News I saw a family member of mine talk on the news and in Iraq serve. I would like to see the well to do people serve. It is the poor that step up to the plate and join. I am poor. There are those who feel that the young must serve as our birth-right. Yes if abled to. No if disaled in mind and or body.
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by klingon69 March 26, 2007 6:29 PM EDT
Training isn't the only answer. In order for training to help, they must have OPPORTUNITIES. When I was discharged(honorable) from the Navy, I went to the local civilian/Army base and applied for a job. Passed all the test, was escorted around the base, shown where I would work(avionics). I was trained in electronics repair. After several hours of being shown the sites...etc, we returned to the main personnel office. There stamped on my application was the phrase,"applicant not accepted." No reason, no explanation, just a handshake and "sorry".
Found out from a friend that worked there, that the position I was to occupy was given to the nephew of somebody in the personnel dept. Oh, I scored 103 out of 105 possible with my vets pref. The one who got the job, never had or has served.
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by gunnerv1 March 26, 2007 6:26 PM EDT
Dear MCVet: I too am veteran of the service, three (3) Combat tours in Viet-Nam, 30% Combat Disabled. Retired with 21 plus years. The GI Bill that you speak of was the WWII Gi bILL. A LITTLE OUT DATED don't you think? The Govt. came up with a new one where the service member actually contributed to it on a every $1.00 you put in, the Govt. put in $2.00. If you actually went to school you got all of it. If you didn't, you got back what you put in. What more do you want , a free ride on the back of everybody else? If you answer yes, then you are the "Paleolib" that you are!
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by gunnerv1 March 26, 2007 6:16 PM EDT
YOUR RIGHTS UNDER USERRA, The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act
You have the right to be reemployed in your civilian job if you leave that job to perform service in the uniformed service and:
1. You ensure your employer receives advance written or verbal notice of your service;
2. You have five (5) years or less of cumulative service in the uniformed services while with that partiular employer;
3.You returnto work or apply for reemployment in a timely manner after conclusion of service; and
4. You have not been seperated from the service with a disqualifying discharge or under other than honorable conditions.
IT'S THE LAW PEOPLE! Your getting your "Paleolib" panties in a wad for nothing.
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by firststate March 26, 2007 5:53 PM EDT
A police officer must have counselling before resuming their normal duties after killing someone. That counselling has been shown to be worthwhile financially, societally and morally. If they need counselling after taking one life, why would every soldier be expected to be able to return from a war to civilian society without psychological help? Psychological wounds are as real as physical wounds and our veterans deserve treatment for all their injuries. For once, our moral duty also happens to be the cost effective choice.

The physical and psychological treatment of our veterans is a national disgrace. The kind of person who volunteers to serve his/her country is not the type person who then volunteers to exile themselves from society and live on the streets. Without a sense of purpose and duty, they wouldn't have volunteered. Something changed inside them and we owe them the help they need to get back as close to the way it was as they can.

Anybody who hasn't told their Congressperson and their Senators that they demand decent medical and psychological treatment of our vets has no right to claim to support our troops, even if they have a magnet (from China) that says they do on their car. Bush & tricky dickyII's record is even worse than previous presidencies. They don't just ignore veterans' needs they've hired private companies to profit from ignoring those needs.
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by mcvet March 26, 2007 5:50 PM EDT
When you quit a job, what does your former employer owe you besides any accrued pay/vacation time/pay and/or serverance pay. This is the same thing that the Military does for service members. They are not owed anything other that accrued pay and leave pay (vacation, Everybody gets 30 days a year, no matter what pay level/grade) if they are not injured. If they are injured then they are owed care for the extent of the injuries incurred while on active duty only. They know this when they are elisted into the Armed Services.
Posted by gunnerv1 at 12:15 PM : Mar 26, 2007

Man you are one twisted little NAZI. ONCE those terrible old "Liberal's" had laws, real LAWS on the books that gave a Vet, especially a Disabled One, an advantage in Schooling, Jobs and Housing. We ONCE had the GI Bill which was a great thing until the Fascist came along and said it cost to much. You see they couldn't afford to give their rich pal's a Tax Cut and maintain the GI Bill so they trashed it for all intents and purpose, then NAZI's like this low life come along and defend what they have done. It's disgusting and needs to be changed.... NOW!!
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by skyk-2009 March 26, 2007 5:41 PM EDT
NYCKATE: Again, check your facts. If they are/were Active Duty, then they are onto a job search just like anybody else. If they are/were Reserve/Army/Air/Guard then their Previous employers are required to have a either the job for them or the job the left when called up. It's a federal law.
Posted by gunnerv1 at 11:44 AM : Mar 26, 2007

Well one thing is CERTAIN Sparky YOU know nothing of U.S. Labor laws Especially those laws pretaining to the Guard. You state it like theres going to be a job for them when they get back and THAT is an OUTRIGHT lie. In fact around the offices of Labor Attorneys all across this nation those laws are laughed at and it's just a simple little matter to rid yourself of ANY requirement to hold any job. You see the law has been changed by the fascist and now with this nation having NO labor Unions anymore to speak of it's REAL easy for a good attorney to get around and YOU should get up to date on what you say. You look stupid! Just pull up the stats on how many Vets came back to find NO job available or were on some waiting list because they had no "simular" job available anymore. Sieg Heil

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by skyk-2009 March 26, 2007 5:35 PM EDT
NYCKATE: Again, check your facts. If they are/were Active Duty, then they are onto a job search just like anybody else. If they are/were Reserve/Army/Air/Guard then their Previous employers are required to have a either the job for them or the job the left when called up. It's a federal law.
Posted by gunnerv1 at 11:44 AM : Mar 26, 2007

You just simply DO NOT care do you Sparky? LOL You haven't a clue what's going on out here and YOU simply DO NOT care. Their all lying to us and these people don't exist do they swastika breath? LOL They ARE there and there are NO JOBS for them. If you clowns want to admit it or not isn't important.
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by skyk-2009 March 26, 2007 5:30 PM EDT
IIFFV: You really need to do a "Fact Check". Only 10 per cent of the American Population were servicemen during WWII
Posted by gunnerv1 at 11:39 AM : Mar 26, 2007
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Where the hell did you get that figure from. Now the population in 1945 was less than 140,000 according Government records. Would you care to tell us WHERE you got the 10 percent there Herr Gunnerv. When you take 10% of 140,000 you get 14,000. Now even a lover of the swastika has to know we had MORE than that serving in the U.S. Military. Hell there were more than that at Paris Island when my pop, one of those dirty old Liberals, was there. LOL
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by skyk-2009 March 26, 2007 5:02 PM EDT
wonder how many "Americans" (Bush, Cheney and Co. included) who will never miss the opportunity to load their cars with yellow ribbons and "Support Our Troops" logos and their lapels with American flags are aware, or give a da*m*n, of this shameful situation.
Posted by nikosk1 at 01:45 PM : Mar 26, 2007

As a Disabled Vet from that OTHER War I can already tell you not one. That's right America all those people who strut around with the flag, telling us how everyone should be willing to sacrifice for their country? NOT ONE of them are willing to even admit we have this problem. NOT ONE!!
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by sclaires March 26, 2007 4:31 PM EDT
After WW1 and WW2, there were no figures kept as to the number of homeless and much less the number of homeless veterans. Even after Korea, there were not any figures. But, since Vietnam and now Iraq and Afghanistan, people are now looking into the number of homeless and the reason. There were a lot of veterans who came back after WW1 and WW2 with alcohol problems but no one cared enough to find out the reason. The same thing with "Shell Shock" which is what Post Traumatic Shock Syndrome is known as today. Back during the WWs, the medical care was not as advanced as it is today and you had more casualties. Today you have more brain injuries due to the IEDs among other things. Also you have more limb involvement which can lead to amputations. And, let us not forget the veterans who are paralazed due to injuries. A lot of the injuries are to YOUNG military people and their families do not know how to take care of them and/or cope with the injuries they have. Parents, being older, will take care of their children but a young wife or husband just doesn't know how and do not want to learn. It is time for the people of the United States to start caring more for the homeless and especially the homeless veterans.
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