Procter & Gamble Wins Satanic Civil Suit

Jury Awards Company $19.25M Over False Rumors Spread By Amway That Logo Was Satanic Symbol

(AP) 
Amway has said it acted quickly to quash the rumor and the company was dismissed from the case, leaving the four ex-distributors, who are protected by liability insurance against the judgment, Haugen said.

P&G spokesman Terry Loftus said Monday that the corporation brought a handful of cases against various individuals — not just Amway distributors — through the 1980s, with the last one prior to this case filed in 1990.

Loftus said he did not have immediate information on the outcome of those cases.

Joseph Joyce, one of the attorneys representing the Amway distributors, didn't return several messages left by The Associated Press on Monday at his Salt Lake City office.

A federal judge had dismissed the lawsuit involving Amway, and a three-judge panel of the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver agreed in 2003, saying the rumors were not defamatory and that P&G had not made a case for specific damages. P&G, however, got the case reinstated on a further appeal, Haugen said.

Amway has successfully defended itself in this and other lawsuits and can provide its research materials to the former distributors if they appeal, said Kate Makled, spokeswoman for Alticor Inc., Amway's parent company based in Ada, Mich.

"Despite the public apology, P&G has spent 12 years destroying their lives," Makled said. "P&G is a $68 billion company. What they got out of this case was what they could earn in about 2½ hours. We think that's shameful."

Amway is involved in direct selling through independent business owners in over 80 countries and territories around the world.

P&G is the world's largest consumer products company. Its products include Pampers diapers, Tide detergent, Pringles chips and Folgers coffee.

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Quoth Kate Makled, spokeswoman for Alticor Inc:
"Despite the public apology, P&G has spent 12 years destroying their lives," Makled said. "P&G is a $68 billion company. What they got out of this case was what they could earn in about 2= hours. We think that's shameful."

a) Who is "WE"??? Has Rich de Vos suddenly turned shy, or is Ms. Makled speaking without authority. The use of Amway/Alticor stationery would clarify this point.

b) Shameful??? Bull-s**t! I hope to soon see a retraction from the de Vos and van Andel families, and preferably dismissal of Ms. Makled.

As an Amway dealer for several years, I am familiar with the AMVOX voicemail system in use back in 1995, which was always promoted strictly for business use, between distributors, not for incidental slander or other items which might provoke the IRS to investigate whether it is a legitimate Schedule C expense.

Haugen et al are a disgrace to all Amway distributors, and I applaud P&G going after them with all fangs out, since aggressive defense of one's business name is the first step to being taken seriously. The defendants should spend more time scoring PV/BV and showing the plan.

[olebd]

I remember this scandal being on Phil Donahue way back and the P&G president wouldn't dispute the rumour.

[jairod]

Zootallures2, it's obvious that you've had too much camel milk for lunch. From time of old, the crescent moon has stood for the devil and his minions of which your group is deeply entrenched with that source of discontent in this world. the star leads to heaven, the moon leads to...well youare quite familiar with that having created that world for yorself in this world of enlightenment. The crescent moon stands for regression, repression, and evil.

[jelindley]

The first time I heard the rumor about P&G's symbol being a satanic symbol was in the mid 70's, and it was not from an Amway distributor. This rumor was not spread by Amway, and was even refuted by Amway. It was a small group of individual Amway distributors who repeated a rumor that they had heard.

[cmp271]

I have always remembered this comment about P&G, I wasn't aware it was Amway who started it. There was nothing wrong with their symbol, in fact I wonder if it is still on their products?
Amway should be made to pay for this, lawsuits do take time. Defamation is a real thing, same as discrimination, it never goes away.

[ianlou]

The citizens of Michigan dodged the bullet last election by not electing *** Devos (the CEO and divine son of the founder of Amway) as our next Governor. We would of had Creationism and Amway cleaning supplies in all our public schools.

[lawbster]

it's all there on the wiki site --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway

[TomChicago]

I can't see how they'd be surprised at the judgment's going against them. Eventually, the fact that they'd mischaracterized P+G was going to come back to haunt them. They put out "retractions" for a reason, didn't they?

[zootallures2]

If you go by the ancient sybology, the US flag indicates it is a nation of 50 states going to hell. Good and salvation is the Crescent not the Pentagram. Or the flag of Isreal is supposed to be yellow. If the sun is blue, you are doomed.

The real ancient Hebrews were brilliant, peaceful folks. They bowed to Yahweh and you like to have things Yahweh.... all puns intended... LOL.

[dpp8933]

well thats what amway gets. i work for p&g, and it has nothing to do with a cult or satin. or what ever. amway, your @ss got what was coming to it.

[zootallures2]

I have seen the symbol. With the face on the moon, it was probably ment to mean you get salvation, or good people use our products. The cresent and light on the moon prooved if you are good with a light soul, you can escape gravity.

Our whole speach comes from the commands and actions of the universe. Why would light and light be the same word and make sense? They are derived from the crescent and pentagram. All words can be trace back to, believe it or not, the hexegram, cross, and crescent.

The pentagram weather upside down or rightside up is just the symbol of the doom of bad people. So when devil worshippers are idiotically praising it, they are celebrating their doom...LMAO!

[olebd]

I didn't know Amway was still around. I recall their products not working as advertised.

In recent years I've noticed an increase in housewives/neighbors/aquaintences in the area who are trying to sell products out of their home. How annoying they are with the invitations to the "parties" for vitamins or candles or kitchen gadgets or special lotions and potions! Enough already. If these products are so good, sell them in the stores!!!

[zootallures2]

It is a symbol of salvation, judgement, and end times. It has been misguidedly used in satanism, Free Masons, Egypt, and others, but the origin is the end times. I guess you could sue the Sherriff for the five pointed star and flahing lights, the highway department for red stop signs and traffic lights.

FRAIDI was here... ha ha ha

[billyjackblg]

Matbe the most appropriate penalty for these Amway distributors is to "wash their mouths out with soap" (pun intended)

billyjacksblog.com

[jolsonbear]

Amway is full of s*h*i*t. I can't believe it took P&G so lond to prove this in court. Amway is part of the Religious Right Movement in this country. Not a conspiricy but a movement none-the-less whose followers exhibit almost pep-rally enthusiasim at proving everyone else is evil, immoral, unchristian, anti American etc. to try and put themselves at political and finacial benefit; they have no regard for the reputations they try to destroy. Anyone who has ever talked to Amway recruiters (and BOY talk about a cult!!) knows firsthand that Amway actively engaged in spreading this rumor as an easy way to boost sells.

[klingon69]

I remember hearing from a preacher about it, and this statement was on one Christian radio station when I lived in South Louisiana

[itgranny]

While I'm not at all for big companies, I do need to side with P&G on this one. There needs to be consequences for people/companies that spread untrue rumors. This rumor about P&G's logo has been going on for as long as I remember. Back in college I had a friend who sold Amway products that first told me about it. This isn't anything new.