Israel Shooting Embarrasses Palestinians

Israeli Utility Worker Wounded; Israel Says Incident Shows New Coalition Is Business As Usual

(CBS/AP) 
There was no immediate comment about the attack from the Palestinian government. But a confidant of Haniyeh called for an end to violence.

"Our position is still the same. We are calling for mutual calm, and desire continuous calm," Ghazi Hamad said. A cease-fire between Israel and Gaza has been in effect since late November.

The new Palestinian information minister, independent Mustafa Barghouti, said the Palestinian goal was a "complete" cease-fire. "We do realize that some actions undermine the duty of the government to release the people from the siege they are suffering," he said, but blamed Israel for the violence.

The Hamas movement — which includes the group's so-called military wing — has been uncomfortable with concessions its political leaders made to Israel in joining the new coalition, which replaced a government the Islamic group led after sweeping parliamentary elections a year ago.

In a claim of responsibility, Hamas' military wing called the shooting Monday "a response to continued Zionist aggression."

"The government's political platform allows resistance in all forms and this is one," said Abu Obeida, a Hamas military wing spokesman.

The coalition's political platform stopped short of accepting the conditions the international community set for lifting sanctions imposed on the Palestinian government after Hamas took power.

While the new Palestinian government was lobbying the international community to lift sanctions and restore a billion dollars in annual aid, spokeswoman Eisen said it's a terrorist government and sanctions should remain in place.

"Israel is being steadfast. We are being steady and we think that the international community will be steady also," Eisen said.

However, the international consensus may be eroding: two key players, Russia and France, say sanctions should be lifted.

The platform also refers to resistance "in all forms" to Israeli occupation.

But the coalition also called for expanding a truce with Israel, and establishing a Palestinian state on lands the Israelis captured in 1967 — in contrast to Hamas' past calls to destroy Israel.

It pledged to "respect" previous Palestinian agreements with Israel and authorizes moderate President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah to conduct peace talks. Any deal would be submitted to a national referendum.

Many Palestinians interpret these stipulations as implicit recognition of Israel by Hamas.

[radiob-2009]

karlimhof The response was into the statements of the land becoming one nation and the dissolvement of Israel. If Israel were to dissolve what would take place. As far as your comment about the Palestinians being self sufficent that is at odds with the facts. Unemployment is at 50% currently, they have no economic structure, returning the land will not give them a economic structure.Agriculture, and small business mainly family owned will not support them.A poverty rate of 60%. How would they survive???? Those are third world conditions!!!!!!!!!!!! No oil to drill out of the ground, no industry (that is not owned by the Israelis). Irrelevant they would not be self sufficient!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[karlimhof]

committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977, interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw.)



Posted by singinrick


your reference is completely outdated: 1977 !
take a look in the mirror. have you changed since 1977?

[karlimhof]

What would happen to the Palestinians if the Jewish people left and gave them back the land?

radiob

The question is without merit, except on some academic basis.

I really don't know why it's so difficult to understand - if you steal your neighbors land then imprison him on what's left - you have created a problem.

If you give him his land back, pay him repairations for the inconvenience - he probably won't talk to you for awhile but you have solved the problem.

The Palestinian people have existed on this land for thousands of years and their survival has been questioned only since 1948 - I don't believe they need israel to survive, and actually have survived in spite of israel. Much to the latters disappointment.

[radiob-2009]

Agnim Read the reports before judging their merit. The institutes are well respected in both camps. What would happen to the Palestinians if the Jewish people left and gave them back the land?You wish to dissolve the existence of Israel? Hypothetically your dream comes true, all Israelis leave and take all of their assets with them. In the process they close all sources of income they have created. The Palestinian economy based on Industries: generally small family businesses that produce cement, textiles, soap, olive-wood carvings, and mother-of-pearl souvenirs; the Israelis have established some small-scale, modern industries in the settlements and industrial centers (which would leave) Exports - commodities: olives, fruit, vegetables, limestone with current unemployment at 50% that does what? Their main trading parter Israel has now left. Who ends up suppoting them? The World Bank? which the main contributor is the US. They like many middle eastern countries have not developed a technology based income or a industrial based income that is not reliant on Israel. Where is the money going to come from to develop their economy?

[agnim]

Posted by radiob at 05:38 PM : Mar 19, 2007

The most important thing to a Jew is money.

And to the Jews in Israel the #1 desire is Land (Palestinian land) and money, not the silly notion of 'peace'. LOL

So all this talk about majority of Jews wanting Camp David Accord is just a smoke screen by the more intelligent Jews to suck even more MONEY and protection out of the lesser intelligent Americans whose minds are poisoned with the christian religious rubbish. LOL

[radiob-2009]

http://truman.huji.ac.il/

http://www.neareastconsulting.com/surveys/peace/

[randalds]

RandalDS some excellent reading is the Harry S. Trumans Institute and the Near East Consulting studies conducted in Dec. 06 and Feb. 07 that demonstrate that the majority of Israelis and Palestinians want the Camp David Peace Accords to become a reality.If you need the links I can supply them.
Posted by radiob at 05:38 PM : Mar 19, 2007

Thanks, I'd like those links. As for me I have to run some errands right now before my wonderful, light of my life, loving Jewish wife gets home. Simple minded small town boy like me I actually thought there'd be no difference between being married to a small town country girl and being married to a NYC Jewish girl! Oy what an education I've gotten! LOL!

[radiob-2009]

RandalDS some excellent reading is the Harry S. Trumans Institute and the Near East Consulting studies conducted in Dec. 06 and Feb. 07 that demonstrate that the majority of Israelis and Palestinians want the Camp David Peace Accords to become a reality.If you need the links I can supply them.

[randalds]

RandalDS 74% of the population of Israel is of Jewish heritage of that 68% are third generation or more. It is one killing of one Jewish worker, arrest the Palestinian and move on. Get back to the Camp David Peace Accords agreement which is supported by a majority of both Israelis and Palestinians.
Posted by radiob at 05:14 PM : Mar 19, 2007

Well I haven't checked your stats so I certainly won't dispute them, however it doesn't change my main point to gunnerv1 that most of the Jewish Israelis are indeed white and certainly not dark skinned like the Palestinians as he maintained.

As for the Camp David accords, I couldn't agree more.

[zootallures2]

Nazrallah and Shimon Perez have secret meetings on bombing Lebanese children to make poster childs to steal charity. It's a scam!!!

An Israeli news channel had a mutiny and showed it in the backgroung screen while the ex-head of the Mossad was blabbing some more BS. They showed the phosphorus bombs behind Amir Peretz, while he was denying the use of them...LOL!

The elite running the world are barbaric psycopaths.

[radiob-2009]

RandalDS 74% of the population of Israel is of Jewish heritage of that 68% are third generation or more. It is one killing of one Jewish worker, arrest the Palestinian and move on. Get back to the Camp David Peace Accords agreement which is supported by a majority of both Israelis and Palestinians.

[zootallures2]

Is it the Jews fault or the Muslim terrorists? Sounds as simple as a US election. Is it the Republicans or is it the Democrats?

You see, if the arguement ends, the Isreali and Palestinian elite will have to do the same as US rightwing and liberal elite.... GET A FREAKIN JOB!!!

Both sides are using their people as slave beggers for foreign aid for the masters of the governments. It is an old Middle Eastern practice gone corporate and high tech.

You get more money if you send a skinney starving child with one leg out begging or a poor Israeli utility worker.

It's a big scam!

[agnim]

"Israel Shooting Embarrasses Palestinians"

Rubbish!
This is just nonsensical propaganda.

The morons of our media are fueling the violence in the Middle East with these kinds of propaganda statements, which foolish make the Jews out to be special people; and therefore if even one of the 'chosen people' is harmed, then it is biblical brimstone and fire. Such rubbish.

One unfortunate Jew has been harmed by one loose maniac muslim who is p!ssed at the Jewish invaders. It's not the end of the world; not even the beginning of the end.

[agnim]

This is the usual silly whining and over the top accusation.
The world is not biting. LOL

Can any government prevent every last citizen from committing acts of violence?

It would be fair to say that almost EVERY LAST PALESTINIAN is p!ssed at their relentless Jewish tormentors; and anyone of them can fly off the handle at any minute, regardless of how peaceful ANY Palestinian government will be. LOL

[randalds]

Posted by gunnerv1 at 02:57 PM : Mar 19, 2007

Gotta tell ya bro, you're getting more angry and troll like everyday. No I haven't been to Israel (though my wife has being the good Jewish woman that she is) and the vast majority of Jewish Israelis are white being as they immigrated from Germany, Eastern Europe, Russia and the good old US of A. I don't know who you met there, but since most of the human beings who live there are Palestinians you may have mistaken all of those browner people for Jews.

[articulator]

This action seems very suspicious because, if it is true, it would completely undermine what the unity government is trying to achieve. To shoot someone not on Palestinian land without provocation has no basis for "resistance."

[gunnerv1]

RandalDS: have you ever been to Israel? The Jews are just as dark skinned as the rest of the Middle East. If you have been there (I doubt if you have ever left your on birth state) then by all means speak up. I know you haven't because you said so before. So if you haven't been there (and I have, and my service record will prove it) why don't you shut up so that those of us who do have something revelant to say about it, can.

[susanhelit]

Israel isn't on our side! They're on their side, and quite happy to take our money, weapons, and all of our credibility when we support their terrorism, and oppose the terrorism of others.

[gunnerv1]

I see that the JEW Haters are frothing at the mouth again! What is with you people? They are on our side, but of course, you are on the other side, the side that hates America and its allies and any good that they do anywhere in the world. Your time is coming, just wait, it ain't gonna be pretty.

[bluestardad]

I am tired of marginalizing all the other millions of good honorable people in the Middle East because Israel had it rough in Europe before I was born! So why must America support Israel blindly above all the rest of the people in the middle east, just because they do not play well in the sand box together? 50 years of American sacrifice is enough! America must become an honest broker in the Middle East or pull out all together! America can honor its commitments with our Allies but there must be a true unbiased commitment on America%u2019s part in the Region. There will never be peace as long as America intervenes on behalf of Israel at the expense of the Millions of other good people in the Middle East! All the parties involved will never come to agreement if we are constantly pulling their cookies out of the fire every time they get into trouble either! It is not anti Semitic to believe that there are other good people in the Middle East and they should have a voice! You can see by the AIPAC advertisement below this PAC is selling influence to American Elected officials. If you follow the money trail you will find that most of those elected officials who support the war in Iraq are under the influence of AIPAC.

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm