Thousands Protest Iraq War Policy

Activists March On The Pentagon; Smaller Demonstrations Across The Country

(CBS/AP)  Denouncing a conflict entering its fifth year, protesters across the country raised their voices Saturday against U.S. policy in Iraq and marched by the thousands to the Pentagon in the footsteps of an epic demonstration four decades ago against another divisive war.

A counterprotest was staged, too, on a day of dueling signs and sentiments such as “Illegal Combat” and “Peace Through Strength,” and songs like “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” and “War (What's It Good For?).”

“What I want to see come out of this administration and any administration is the troops — and then we can have some peace in the world if we have the troops,” one protester told CBS Radio News correspondent Tom Foty.

Thousands crossed the Potomac River from the Lincoln Memorial to rally loudly but peacefully near the Pentagon. “We're here in the shadow of the war machine,” said anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan. “It's like being in the shadow of the death star. They take their death and destruction and they export it around the world. We need to shut it down.”

Smaller protests were held in other U.S. cities, stretching to Tuesday's four-year anniversary of the Iraq invasion. In Los Angeles, Vietnam veteran Ed Ellis, 59, hoped the demonstrations would be the “tipping point” against a war that has killed more than 3,200 U.S. troops and engulfed Iraq in a deadly cycle of violence.

“It's all moving in our direction, it's happening,” he predicted at the Hollywood rally. “The administration, their get-out-of-jail-free card, they don't get one anymore.”

Overseas, tens of thousands marched in Madrid as Spaniards called not only for the U.S. to get out of Iraq but to close the prison for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Smaller protests were staged in Greece and Turkey.

Speakers at the Pentagon rally criticized the Bush administration at every turn but blamed congressional Democrats, too, for refusing to cut off money for the war.

“This is a bipartisan war,” New York City labor activist Michael Letwin told the crowd. “The Democratic party cannot be trusted to end it.”

Five people were arrested after the demonstration when they walked onto a bridge that had been closed off to accommodate the protest and then refused orders to leave so police could reopen it to traffic, Pentagon police spokeswoman Cheryl Irwin said. They were cited and released, she said.

President Bush was at Camp David in Maryland for the weekend. Spokesman Blair Jones said of the protests: “Our Constitution guarantees the right to peacefully express one's views. The men and women in our military are fighting to bring the people of Iraq the same rights and freedoms.”

People traveled from afar in stormy weather to join the march.

“Too many people have died and it doesn't solve anything,” said Ann O'Grady, who drove through snow with her husband, Tom, and two children, 13 and 10, from Athens, Ohio. “I feel bad carrying out my daily activities while people are suffering, Americans and Iraqis.”

Police on horseback and foot separated the two groups of demonstrators, who shouted at each other from opposite sides of Constitution Avenue in view of the Lincoln Memorial before the anti-war group marched. Barriers also kept them apart.

But war protester Susanne Shine of Boone, N.C., found herself in a crowd of counterdemonstrators, and came out in tears, with her sign in shreds. “They ripped up my peace sign,” she said, after police escorted her, her husband and two adult daughters from the group. “It was really pretty scary for me.”

Protesters walked in a blustery, cold wind across the Potomac River with motorcycles clearing their way and police boats and helicopters watching.

Police no longer give official estimates but said privately that perhaps 10,000 to 20,000 anti-war demonstrators marched, with a smaller but still sizable number of counterprotesters also out in force. An hour into the three-hour Pentagon rally, with the temperature near freezing, protesters had peeled away to a point where fewer than 1,000 were left.

Protesters met at the starting point of the Oct. 21, 1967, march on the Pentagon, which began peacefully but turned ugly in clashes between authorities and more radical elements of the estimated crowd of 50,000 on the plaza in front of the Defense Department's headquarters. More than 600 were arrested that day.

That protest has lived on in the popular imagination because of the crowd's attempts to lift the Pentagon off the ground with their chants; they fell short of their fanciful goal.

Veterans lined up at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and waved U.S, POW-MIA and military-unit flags.

“They’ve got no business using our wall as a backdrop for their anti-war demonstration,” one veteran told Eve Chen of CBS radio station WTOP.

Not all were committed to the U.S. course in Iraq, however.

“I'm not sure I'm in support of the war,” said William “Skip” Publicover of Charleston, S.C., who was a swift boat gunner in Vietnam and lost two friends whose names are etched on the memorial's wall. “I learned in Vietnam that it's difficult if not impossible to win the hearts and minds of the people.”

But Larry Stimeling, 57, a Vietnam veteran from Morton, Ill., said the loss of public support for the Iraq war mirrors what happened in Vietnam and leaves troops without the backing they need.

“We didn't lose the war in Vietnam, we lost it right here on this same ground,” he said, pointing to the grass on the National Mall. “It's the same thing now.”

Opening weekend events, more than 200 were arrested in a demonstration late Friday in front of the White House and charged with disobeying a lawful order or crossing a police line.

[klingon69]

Scott4261;
Not enough yet, still can see.

[scott4261]

Had a bit to smoke, Klingon69?

BTW, critical thinkers don't usually follow the party line. And it's OK!

[klingon69]

Alright now Scott;
We can't keep agreeing on things, it's boring.
Yes, end the war, get our people home, close the borders, erect a giant wall....oh wait, it's been done already.

[scott4261]

FOX News is not really a news source. It's a propaganda source!

[inventagod]

I scoured Fox News for any stories on protests against four years of war - there were no reports on the subject. I wrote a comment to the editor about it, and didn't receive an answer, so I am still not sure they noticed the hundreds of protests world-wide. I did find it interesting the ONLY coverage they provided on the subject was a small pro-war gathering WAS covered...

[progressv]

As people keep asking plaintively:

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[michellem99-2009]

I feel that gentleman who is in his 80s is so cool. I feel for the troots who fight in the middle east. They should be here at home. I hate war. We got no business over there. Bush needs to step up to the plate and resign now.

[tsarbomba29]

When the voter's choice is, a lesser of two evils, we are still left with evil. The difference between the two is simply semantics. We need a new government. What we have ignorantly accepted for too long is DEFINITELY NOT "of, by and for the people!"

[scott4261]

See, that's why ya'll should watch Fox News. In several cities, the pro troop rallies actually had more folks than the anti war earring infested maggot crowds.

No fair and balanced on this site.....if it weren't for Fox and alternative media, one would think it was all one sided.
Posted by US_Infidel at 12:56 PM

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Man, FOX News is "fair and balanced?" That's a good one! Where does the fairness or balance come in to play?

With grudging respect, YOU are out of touch with reality! Now step away from the punch bowl!

[scott4261]

I have to ask the question again: HOW has the war in Iraq been worth it? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden couldn't have conspired to attack the U.S. because they hated each other. Saddam was secular and Osama is a religious extremist. This war was not worth one drop of American blood. And the very occupation by the U.S. has created a vacuum for terrorist activity where there was none before.

And for what? To benefit Exxon/Mobil, Halliburton, and KBR? I believe that one need only to follow the war profiteering money trail to find out just how much is wrong with this war and why I detest what is happening now.

And before the Bush apologist start bashing my post, let me say this: I get irritated when I am told that I am somehow undermining troop morale, that I hate America, that I'm a traitor, that I'm unpatriotic,.....whatever...you name it....just because I choose to speak out against the actions of this corrupt administration. I love my country and that is why I am willing to speak up.

This war has been a grave error.

[us_infidel]

See, that's why ya'll should watch Fox News. In several cities, the pro troop rallies actually had more folks than the anti war earring infested maggot crowds.

No fair and balanced on this site.....if it weren't for Fox and alternative media, one would think it was all one sided.

[bluestardad]

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[forthepeaple]

why dont you all in the media that say we are here to help americans find out the truth about the whitehouse and bush,rumsfeld,and vp *** cheney, why wont you just say the truth to us stupid americans out here in america. because thats what the whitehouse kiss *** press secrutary thinks all i see comming out of his mouth is trash,lies on top of lies. i really hope he sleeps good knowing that he to is responsable for all the murders of our troops..so getting back to what i was saying, how about haveing a big round table section and let me ask all congress and the press secretary god i hate him. some simple questions that all america wants to know....and yes they will not know what i would ask. and all this would be on tv radio,newspapers,showing all america what they think and while i am here why haven;t any news media put this story in the faces of all ameica and americans than why hasn't the media been all over this with all of washington..go to .. www.scoop.co.nz and look under search for pentagon whistle-blower on iraq/iran.. after reading the 9 pages tell me why we americans shouln't have been told about this sooner,, why why why. AND ALL IN WASHINGTON WILL NOT LIKE WHAT WE AMERICANS THINK AND WILL DO,THATS WHY AMERICANS ARE GOING TO VOTE IN A NEW GOVERNMENT CALLED AMERICANS FOR AMERICA AND OUR COLORS ARE RED WHITE AND BLUE. SO VOTE FOR HIM DAVID A BELANGER FOR PRESIDENT AND CHANGE WILL BE DONE.SEND A NOTE AT [e-mail]

[bigal321321]

The only guy from the pro-war side that CBS could find was a 20 year old college student? This is scary. No, more scary would be to hear his reaction ir they re-instated the draft and his grades were failing.

[anopinion1]

agreed

president doushe bag should be put on trial in the iraqi court system with a huge amount of media coverage. and then when they decide to hang him we make it a pay per view event and sell it to people all around the world. (at least the money gotten from the pay per view could pay for a little bit of this idiotic war on iraq)

[hrdman2luv]

If the American people exercized our constitutional duty/right to overthrow Bush by marching up to the White House to physically throw him out, I feel quite sure he would use our own military against us and slaughter us in the streets like dogs.
We lost this war when Dubya "cut n run" from Osama and went after Hussein. Bush was raised a spoiled rich kid. And he is still a spoiled rich kid.

[tuckerndfw]

Doing more of the same ("surge") and expecting a different outcome is symptomatic of insanity.

And, how is "the surge appears to be working" any different than the other variations of "we're turninng a corner" we heard Donald Rumsfeld (et al) claim so many times before?

It is time to remove all combat forces from Iraq.

It does not require YEARS to train people to be policemen or bomb detectors. When and if Iraqis want a police force, they can hire and train their own.

In the meantime, George Bush should be indicted for war crimes. The invasion of Iraq is no different than Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. And Bush should receive the same kind of "justice" administered to Saddam. (kangaroo court lynch mob)

[coffeehead-2009]

love these rich elitist republicans with no ties to any of the poor troops overseas spouting off how we need to stick it out... of course, there families pay little of the human toll

Until their family is affected.... It is a singular patriotism, selective and non-definable - until it hits the ME - MY and MINE stage....


congressional investigation is under way to see if Walter Reed Army Medical Center is funding a well-appointed ward for lawmakers and other VIPs at the expense of soldiers, following disclosures of dilapidated facilities and excessive red tape at the nation's premier hospital for wounded troops.

John Tierney, D-Mass., chairman of the House National Security Subcommittee, has asked the Army to detail its funding for Walter Reed's Ward 72 %u2014 well known for its antique furniture, carpeted floors, gleaming china, flat-screen TVs and hospital workers who escort members of Congress, Cabinet members, foreign dignitaries and their families to their medical appointments.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2957558&page=1

[krg12171936]

I've said all along that "President Bush should be impeached". He will not acknowledge what the people of the United states have been saying. Chavez was right-Bush is the "DEVIL".
He does what ever he wants without regard to whatever the Congress, Senate or the people of the United States say.
The sooner he is impeached, the better off the United States will be.

[karlimhof]

" MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"

bush has succeeded in dividing America. the great unifier has brought shame on Americans from the whole world. the day he was "elected" will be remembered as the true "day of infamy".