"300" Fails To Conquer Cyberspace

Bloggers Say New Spartan Battle Flick's Portrayal Of Iranians Is Offensive

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Hollywood History Lesson

The movie "300" pulled in over $70 million on its opening weekend, a record for a March release. But many are not talking about the movie's infamous gore, but about what it says about Iranians. The Islamic Republic News Agency argues that the film fabricates history, and finds a sympathetic ear in the blogosphere.

Some have noted the political overtones of the West-against-Iran story line — and the way Persians are depicted as decadent, sexually flamboyant and evil in contrast to the noble Greeks.

According to The Associated Press, Iran's biggest circulation newspaper, Hamshahri, said "300" is "serving the policy of the U.S. leadership" and predicted it will "prompt a wave of protest in the world. ... Iranians living in the U.S. and Europe will not be indifferent about this obvious insult."

Some bloggers understand why Iranians are offended. "I left the theater furious. They've got all the blacks and people who look like me behaving like animals when the Persian Empire was one of the greatest forces of civilization in history," Chee blogs at This Ain’t So Bad.

"The movie does take some liberties on the history as well as making the Persians seem inhuman and mutants in some cases," a blogger at Dave’s Life Journal writes.

But others say claims of bias are overstated. "This movie makes the Persians the 'bad guys,' but that is to be expected. Most Hollywood movies need bad guys to tell a story. Do most intelligent people fall for the black/white dichotomy? Except for some of my extreme right-wing friends, the answer is no," Steverino blogs.

Meggie says the movie is an adaptation, and isn't meant to portray historical fact. "I am well aware of the need to be political correct and culturally sensitive. There is something to love and admire in every person in the world. But please people, let movies be movies," she blogs at Imposter Syndrome.

Some are not surprised the movie has inspired outrage. "Even if you lose a battle, you still get to write the history books if you win the war. Movies about the Alamo don't play real big in Mexico. 'Braveheart' and 'The Patriot' were flops in England," Rabbi Tucker blogs. "It stands to reason, therefore, that '300' will not be well-liked in Iran."

Sam About Iran simply notes that it's ironic that "300" is popular in Iran, "as what the current regime in Iran fears most is the renaissance of this ancient culture."


Ze End Of Frank

Saturday marked the end of "The Show With Ze Frank," a popular yearlong online video project produced in Frank’s living room. Saturday’s episode marked his 250th show.

Frank is a 34-year old New Yorker and his quirky shows, as he says on his site, were a "conversation between the host and the viewers of the program," often incorporating viewer comments. He often read comments from viewers of the previous show, and called the segment,"S-s-s-somethin' from the comments." The overall theme of the program was that Ze wanted to join something called "The League of Awesomeness", a society out to make the world a more awesome place. His initiation into the league was to do a video podcast for one year, which became "The Show."

Each program ran about three minutes before his usual signoff — "This is Ze Frank — thinking so you don't have to."

Bloggers are sad no more Ze Frank Shows are in their future. "One year of episodes was not enough. I'll miss the thought-provoking zaniness that was 'The Show,'" Binary Stream blogs. "After watching The Show with Ze Frank five days a week for the past year, I'm gonna miss it," Hunkagirl adds.

"Every show had something in it that would make me laugh outloud, usually to the point of tears. Now I will have to find something to replace it," JustLisa blogs. Wegrit at A Philistine On The Sidwalk says he's "super sad" about it, adding "he's the perfect mixture of intelligence, sarcasm and wit."

Many fans recall their favorite episodes. "During the year, we've learnt many things, like how the earth is a sandwich, who loves little duckies, power moves, who Ray ismake a t shirts for someone in Germany, and sports racers will help someone travel across the US & back and what makes an ugly Myspace page,” Jazza blogs at Life In The Not So Fast Lane. "Ze has given us all some knowledge, and it's up to us to use."

"I am hopeful the gift he gave, that of encouraging people to create and contribute, continues. So long Ze, and welcome to the League of Awesomeness. It couldn't be more deserved," a blogger at Arcane Code reflects.

It may be officially over, but if you haven’t seen the shows, you can still check out the archive.


Sinbad Is In The Building (Really!)

There's always a chance with Wikipedia that some of the entries are incorrect. "The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" lets its users catch factual errors. And comedian Sinbad was its latest victim, after rumors began circulating that he had died of a heart attack.

"Saturday I rose from the dead and then died again," Sinbad told The Associated Press.

Someone had edited his entry to say Sinbad died of a heart attack. By the time the error was caught, e-mail links circulating news of his death had been forwarded to hundreds of people. A note on Sinbad's Wikipedia page says the site has been temporarily protected from editing to deal with vandalism.

Many bloggers, while not diehard Sinbad fans, were not happy about a false Wikipedia entry. "I have such a love-hate relationship with Wikipedia," Liberal Debutante writes. "The online encyclopedia is known for many things, but it has never been a part of a killing!," BJCrock adds at Blaw, Blaw, Blawg.

"The problem with unrestricted community involvement in online research is the great risk to truth and accuracy in the reporting," David Boles writes.

Some mock that the attention might just be what Sinbad's career needed. "I guess Sinbad will have more stuff for his stand up routine," a blogger at Tech.Life.Blog writes. "Wait, is he still a comedian?," a blogger at Kofi’s Hat asks.

"Sinbad announced that, while his career may be on life support, he's still very much alive,” HotStop writes.

As for Sinbad, he seems to be taking it in stride. He told the AP, "It's gonna be more commonplace as the Internet opens up more and more. It's not that strange."

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by afmca March 21, 2007 9:02 AM PDT

awwww ... I feel so bad for the Iranians and that bloggers would be stupid enough to fall for the propaganda from a terrorist country. It's a MOVIE .. if you don't like it don't go see it! Stop making everything fit your bias and sense of political correctness. The bottom line is that if the Spartans would not have held fast - Europe would have lost the Greek civilization and its laws, Christianity would have never become prominent in Europe, and bin Ladins dream of an Islamic world would have already been realized.

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by jairod March 21, 2007 9:03 AM PDT

It's just a movie made from a comic book. Where was all this outrage when the comic book was printed. I guess those that object can go to a movie, but can't read. Typical. Where is this outrage when the Japanese are dipicted unfairly, or the Germans, or the Mexicans, or the Indians, or any other ethnic group? Oh, sorry, It just applies to you. Bah.

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by mace45 March 21, 2007 9:47 AM PDT

As a gay man, I was offended by the overtly homophobic nature of 300. The good guys (Spartans) are portrayed as heterosexuals while the bad guys (Persians) are portrayed as sexually ambiguous and possibly homosexual. There is also the homophobic omission of the movie. This omission is in the form of the erasing of Spartan male homosexuality, a proven historical fact.

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by Syndicate March 21, 2007 10:49 AM PDT

Were was all the outrage when the Persians invaded greece in 450 BC. These 300 Spartans were scrificing their lives to cover the escape of the rest of the army made up of the other city states. Actually this is a sore spot for the Iranians/Persians. After they invaded greece the Greek banded together. Emboldened by their victory they set out and conquered Persia under Alexander the great. If the persians had just stayed home the greeks would not have united, democracy would not have survived and the Persian empire would not have been destroyed. See why they don't want to be reminded.

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by dirtyharry02 March 21, 2007 11:20 AM PDT

I thought the movie, "300" was great. I did not see it as anything negative against homosexuals. I do think it depicts a story about good versus evil, and the good, kick ***. I don't agree with war, but if someone threatens you and harms your people, then yes, unfortunately war is inevitable, but I believe you should totally kick ***. The war is Iraq is a waste, but we need to start kicking *** over there especially when these sick *** are using kids to bomb American forces.

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by karateman39 March 21, 2007 11:34 AM PDT

boo hoo hoo. Who cares. Must everyone be so sensitive. Here's a news flash. IT'S A MOVIE. if you're looking for something to be offended by then you'll find it. I have not seen '300' yet but plan to so I won't speak to the veracity of these claims, but I will say it's a bit silly.

I remember when Lord of the Rings cam eout and a group cliamed the movie was racist because the bad guys were dark skinned. Get a grip!

I for one despise political correctness and being polite just to be inclusive and avoid hurting anyone's feelings and making everyone feel good about themselves. Grow a backbone and learn to roll with it!

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by zippiez March 21, 2007 12:10 PM PDT

Poor Iranians! They've rewritten their history books so well they actually believe their own fiction.

Poor bloggers! They've decided to believe without confirming. Its so hard to do with the limited resources at their disposal!

I guess its important that everyone follow these examples. This will prevent the terrorists from becoming emboldened.

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by dredre2k March 21, 2007 12:36 PM PDT

... and the spartans in accused the athenians of being boy lovers... Spartans were nutorious for the "close" male-male bonding in the ranks of their troops. Funny how this fact didn't make it into the movie...
Oh, and the movie, HATED IT!

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by allheart06 March 21, 2007 12:52 PM PDT

It's a movie people. Get over it. My gosh it's a good thing America didn't have this attitude when Westerns were the in thing. What happened to us?

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by jairod March 21, 2007 1:04 PM PDT

Some people don't like "shoot'm up, bang, bang" movies. And that's fine. Too much noise, too many explosions, too much of the wrong kind of action. Some prefer lovey dovey, smooch, smooch movies with funny one liners and clever man/female dialog. That's fine. Whatever your bent, go for the entertainment value. If there is a political message, take it as satire. Remember, in the end the only one that is upset over what you see is you. No one else really cares. If you let a movie control your feelings, emotions, and self worth, you are one very sorry human being.

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by tomflint69 March 21, 2007 1:17 PM PDT

Long live Tomflint69, Long live British Apples and our Mathematics heritage. heee hee heeee

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by jshmks March 21, 2007 1:27 PM PDT

I agree with J-Rod. Why are they getting so bent out of shape for giving persians a "bad name". Nobody is giving them a bad name. It's entertainment, a movie to help the producers make millions that you people choose to see. Read up about the movie, before you actually go and see it, so there's no controversy or dilemma about it. The movie doesn't say "Based on a true story", so how can it really be brought into the subject of iranian and persian war history. And to 'mace45', if you're distraught about the homophobic nature in 300, are you uncomfortable about it yourself? Homosexuality is something that's been here longer than us.

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by jshmks March 21, 2007 1:27 PM PDT

I agree with J-Rod. Why are they getting so bent out of shape for giving persians a "bad name". Nobody is giving them a bad name. It's entertainment, a movie to help the producers make millions that you people choose to see. Read up about the movie, before you actually go and see it, so there's no controversy or dilemma about it. The movie doesn't say "Based on a true story", so how can it really be brought into the subject of iranian and persian war history. And to 'mace45', if you're distraught about the homophobic nature in 300, are you uncomfortable about it yourself? Homosexuality is something that's been here longer than us.

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by tomflint69 March 21, 2007 1:36 PM PDT

Iranians escaped from U.S trap! Ooh goody, it will become nuclear power.

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by carlay0531 March 21, 2007 3:29 PM PDT

Until anybody said anything, most of American didn't even know that iran used to be called Persia. Get over it's a movie. Watch the 1962 version it's even funnier.

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by mace45 March 21, 2007 5:28 PM PDT

If the Spartan male-male love was minor, I wouldn't be complaining. But it was an intrinsic part of their military culture, so it at least merited some inclusion in the movie. I believe that it was left out because of homophobic reasons. If Frank Miller and Zack Snyder think this is trivial, they need to re-think it.

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by jabberwock11 March 21, 2007 11:26 PM PDT

I agree with the "it's just a movie" sentiment. If people from other countries get so upset when they are portrayed in movies, they should start making more movies themselves. For instance the Persians beat hell out of the Romans numerous times and even captured a Roman emperor. They should probably take some of that anger and start working on the movie for it.

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by legendary240 March 21, 2007 11:42 PM PDT

No one but f@gs want to see a movie about f@ggotry. The Iranians should not even know about this movie since they are such "wholesome" muslims. When was the last time they cared about the world's opinion of them anyway - don't tell me they think tourism will suffer - ha ha

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by antoniof123 March 22, 2007 8:40 AM PDT

It is just a movie.

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by anopinion1 March 22, 2007 8:45 AM PDT

2 posts of mine removed here so far...

What the gayys can't handle the truth???
Did you go and cry to you mommy's when you read them?
The fact is mace45, noone wants to hear your gayy views... keep them in closet with yourself and the plunger...

As for your history lesson??? soo what side got to write the history their... you do know that the winning side/country writes the history books??? well up untill recent times... were you their at the time??? was your great great great grandfather lucifer a gayy spartan that passed along a diary or some ***????

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by nrgspirit March 22, 2007 9:14 AM PDT

Anopinion1,

Maybe if you limited your posts to rational discussion and an attempt to solve what you see as a problem, your posts wouldn't be removed.

As I have read so many of your posts with mild amusement, I'd say the ones removed were probably deserving of such.

You are a name caller, a bully, and uneducated about most of the topics on which you comment.
Your name says it all. However, opinions without support are worth NOTHING.

I suspect you are an angry, little, frightened man. Read any pshyc 101 book and you will find the reasons for your hate and fear. I won't take the time to educate you myself. I suspect you won't either, as it is evident you haven't about anything else.

Righteous anger, as opposed to yours, does not include such base, crude and inmature tactics as you use.

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by anopinion1 March 22, 2007 10:23 AM PDT

The only issues I am somewhat angry towards are gayy rights/marriage/gayss living together should not be covered under one insurance policy/gayys with kids.
And then one pet peeve of mine/ people who can't argue with someone and resort to pointing out grammar and spelling errors to try to cut them down.

And btw after 6 years of college i have had my fair share of psyc and philosophy classes (scene as how for the first 2 years my major was psychology).

now back to the article and my last post.
I may not know the history of the spartans well, but i do know it was a long time ago. and as napoleon said "whoever wins the war gets to write the history books".
Which until the last few centurys could'nt be more true.

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by hugbee March 22, 2007 10:36 AM PDT

The movie *is* based on a historical event.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
If the Iranians don't like it they can go change history.

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by nrgspirit March 22, 2007 10:45 AM PDT

Anopinion1,
As I didn't point out any spelling or grammar errors, I can only think that this must be an insercurity of yours - since you brought it up. I can point some out if you'd like, though, I suspect you could do the same for me.
I said you are uneducated about the topics on which you post. I didn't say you were uneducated. I think you are generally well written, you just lack the substance of factual knowledge. As I wrote, most of your posts are angry and based solely on your opinion without the support of any facts.
As for being angry about ***, since you majored in psych, you should know better than anyone why it bothers you so much. Insurance? Tax payers pay for the uninsured as well. Educate yourself about those statistics - you may find your argument is a hollow one.
Personally, I agree with you about Persians. It's only a movie, and it's probably accurate to some degree if today's leading examples of Islam and Arabs are any indicator.
To Islamics and Arabs, if you don't like the stereotype, do something about it. Don't live it, condemn it in other Muslims when you see it and do everything you can to assist in the so-called "war on terror".

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by jabberwock11 March 22, 2007 11:14 AM PDT

"Personally, I agree with you about Persians. It's only a movie, and it's probably accurate to some degree if today's leading examples of Islam and Arabs are any indicator."

Give me a break. I'm sure they didn't have hugely obese guys walking around with crab claws for arms and all the crazy *** like that. That part was so stupid people were laughing in the theatre. Not to mention the Spartans had slaves so all this talk about freedom would have been just that, talk. Secondly Persians/Iranians aren't Arabs and Islam wasn't even around in the time the movie portrays, so that proves that you are a complete ignorant fool. Bottom line is it%u2019s just a movie based on comic book, and even though the comic book was based on an actual event the characterizations are far from the truth.

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by nrgspirit March 22, 2007 11:21 AM PDT

jabberwock11,
No $#it? Really, they didn't have those demi-humans with crab claws back then? That just knocks a hole in my reality. No kidding, Sherlock.

Iranians are Arabs, Einstein. Look it up. And you are correct about Islam. That's only about 500 years old. However, I refer to the socio-political-religious climate of the region, which I said "if today's leading examples of Islam and Arabs are any indicator." That would be correct. "If" they are any "example". Read what is written, not what you want to read into it.

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by anopinion1 March 22, 2007 11:26 AM PDT

You are probably right nrgspirit!!!
maybe they wont be as big of a drain on things as i assume..
I don't exactly know why I feel compelled to argue against homosexual marriage. Most the time it goes on deaf ears. and all sides of are based on opinion pretty much so i can understand that much. (all are opinion except some of the leviticus stuff singinrick goes into).

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by anopinion1 March 22, 2007 11:31 AM PDT

the first 2 years of really did'nt teach all that much but it was interesting..
I persued other thing because i realized you basically had to become a doctor to actually do something with the major. (prob biggest mistake i have made in awhile was going into that major).

but i would'nt change it.

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[afmca]

awwww ... I feel so bad for the Iranians and that bloggers would be stupid enough to fall for the propaganda from a terrorist country. It's a MOVIE .. if you don't like it don't go see it! Stop making everything fit your bias and sense of political correctness. The bottom line is that if the Spartans would not have held fast - Europe would have lost the Greek civilization and its laws, Christianity would have never become prominent in Europe, and bin Ladins dream of an Islamic world would have already been realized.

[jairod]

It's just a movie made from a comic book. Where was all this outrage when the comic book was printed. I guess those that object can go to a movie, but can't read. Typical. Where is this outrage when the Japanese are dipicted unfairly, or the Germans, or the Mexicans, or the Indians, or any other ethnic group? Oh, sorry, It just applies to you. Bah.

[mace45]

As a gay man, I was offended by the overtly homophobic nature of 300. The good guys (Spartans) are portrayed as heterosexuals while the bad guys (Persians) are portrayed as sexually ambiguous and possibly homosexual. There is also the homophobic omission of the movie. This omission is in the form of the erasing of Spartan male homosexuality, a proven historical fact.

[Syndicate]

Were was all the outrage when the Persians invaded greece in 450 BC. These 300 Spartans were scrificing their lives to cover the escape of the rest of the army made up of the other city states. Actually this is a sore spot for the Iranians/Persians. After they invaded greece the Greek banded together. Emboldened by their victory they set out and conquered Persia under Alexander the great. If the persians had just stayed home the greeks would not have united, democracy would not have survived and the Persian empire would not have been destroyed. See why they don't want to be reminded.

[dirtyharry02]

I thought the movie, "300" was great. I did not see it as anything negative against homosexuals. I do think it depicts a story about good versus evil, and the good, kick ***. I don't agree with war, but if someone threatens you and harms your people, then yes, unfortunately war is inevitable, but I believe you should totally kick ***. The war is Iraq is a waste, but we need to start kicking *** over there especially when these sick *** are using kids to bomb American forces.

[karateman39]

boo hoo hoo. Who cares. Must everyone be so sensitive. Here's a news flash. IT'S A MOVIE. if you're looking for something to be offended by then you'll find it. I have not seen '300' yet but plan to so I won't speak to the veracity of these claims, but I will say it's a bit silly.

I remember when Lord of the Rings cam eout and a group cliamed the movie was racist because the bad guys were dark skinned. Get a grip!

I for one despise political correctness and being polite just to be inclusive and avoid hurting anyone's feelings and making everyone feel good about themselves. Grow a backbone and learn to roll with it!

[zippiez]

Poor Iranians! They've rewritten their history books so well they actually believe their own fiction.

Poor bloggers! They've decided to believe without confirming. Its so hard to do with the limited resources at their disposal!

I guess its important that everyone follow these examples. This will prevent the terrorists from becoming emboldened.

[dredre2k]

... and the spartans in accused the athenians of being boy lovers... Spartans were nutorious for the "close" male-male bonding in the ranks of their troops. Funny how this fact didn't make it into the movie...
Oh, and the movie, HATED IT!

[allheart06]

It's a movie people. Get over it. My gosh it's a good thing America didn't have this attitude when Westerns were the in thing. What happened to us?

[jairod]

Some people don't like "shoot'm up, bang, bang" movies. And that's fine. Too much noise, too many explosions, too much of the wrong kind of action. Some prefer lovey dovey, smooch, smooch movies with funny one liners and clever man/female dialog. That's fine. Whatever your bent, go for the entertainment value. If there is a political message, take it as satire. Remember, in the end the only one that is upset over what you see is you. No one else really cares. If you let a movie control your feelings, emotions, and self worth, you are one very sorry human being.

[tomflint69]

Long live Tomflint69, Long live British Apples and our Mathematics heritage. heee hee heeee

[jshmks]

I agree with J-Rod. Why are they getting so bent out of shape for giving persians a "bad name". Nobody is giving them a bad name. It's entertainment, a movie to help the producers make millions that you people choose to see. Read up about the movie, before you actually go and see it, so there's no controversy or dilemma about it. The movie doesn't say "Based on a true story", so how can it really be brought into the subject of iranian and persian war history. And to 'mace45', if you're distraught about the homophobic nature in 300, are you uncomfortable about it yourself? Homosexuality is something that's been here longer than us.

[jshmks]

I agree with J-Rod. Why are they getting so bent out of shape for giving persians a "bad name". Nobody is giving them a bad name. It's entertainment, a movie to help the producers make millions that you people choose to see. Read up about the movie, before you actually go and see it, so there's no controversy or dilemma about it. The movie doesn't say "Based on a true story", so how can it really be brought into the subject of iranian and persian war history. And to 'mace45', if you're distraught about the homophobic nature in 300, are you uncomfortable about it yourself? Homosexuality is something that's been here longer than us.

[tomflint69]

Iranians escaped from U.S trap! Ooh goody, it will become nuclear power.

[carlay0531]

Until anybody said anything, most of American didn't even know that iran used to be called Persia. Get over it's a movie. Watch the 1962 version it's even funnier.

[mace45]

If the Spartan male-male love was minor, I wouldn't be complaining. But it was an intrinsic part of their military culture, so it at least merited some inclusion in the movie. I believe that it was left out because of homophobic reasons. If Frank Miller and Zack Snyder think this is trivial, they need to re-think it.

[jabberwock11]

I agree with the "it's just a movie" sentiment. If people from other countries get so upset when they are portrayed in movies, they should start making more movies themselves. For instance the Persians beat hell out of the Romans numerous times and even captured a Roman emperor. They should probably take some of that anger and start working on the movie for it.

[legendary240]

No one but f@gs want to see a movie about f@ggotry. The Iranians should not even know about this movie since they are such "wholesome" muslims. When was the last time they cared about the world's opinion of them anyway - don't tell me they think tourism will suffer - ha ha

[antoniof123]

It is just a movie.

[anopinion1]

2 posts of mine removed here so far...

What the gayys can't handle the truth???
Did you go and cry to you mommy's when you read them?
The fact is mace45, noone wants to hear your gayy views... keep them in closet with yourself and the plunger...

As for your history lesson??? soo what side got to write the history their... you do know that the winning side/country writes the history books??? well up untill recent times... were you their at the time??? was your great great great grandfather lucifer a gayy spartan that passed along a diary or some ***????

[nrgspirit]

Anopinion1,

Maybe if you limited your posts to rational discussion and an attempt to solve what you see as a problem, your posts wouldn't be removed.

As I have read so many of your posts with mild amusement, I'd say the ones removed were probably deserving of such.

You are a name caller, a bully, and uneducated about most of the topics on which you comment.
Your name says it all. However, opinions without support are worth NOTHING.

I suspect you are an angry, little, frightened man. Read any pshyc 101 book and you will find the reasons for your hate and fear. I won't take the time to educate you myself. I suspect you won't either, as it is evident you haven't about anything else.

Righteous anger, as opposed to yours, does not include such base, crude and inmature tactics as you use.

[anopinion1]

The only issues I am somewhat angry towards are gayy rights/marriage/gayss living together should not be covered under one insurance policy/gayys with kids.
And then one pet peeve of mine/ people who can't argue with someone and resort to pointing out grammar and spelling errors to try to cut them down.

And btw after 6 years of college i have had my fair share of psyc and philosophy classes (scene as how for the first 2 years my major was psychology).

now back to the article and my last post.
I may not know the history of the spartans well, but i do know it was a long time ago. and as napoleon said "whoever wins the war gets to write the history books".
Which until the last few centurys could'nt be more true.

[hugbee]

The movie *is* based on a historical event.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
If the Iranians don't like it they can go change history.

[nrgspirit]

Anopinion1,
As I didn't point out any spelling or grammar errors, I can only think that this must be an insercurity of yours - since you brought it up. I can point some out if you'd like, though, I suspect you could do the same for me.
I said you are uneducated about the topics on which you post. I didn't say you were uneducated. I think you are generally well written, you just lack the substance of factual knowledge. As I wrote, most of your posts are angry and based solely on your opinion without the support of any facts.
As for being angry about ***, since you majored in psych, you should know better than anyone why it bothers you so much. Insurance? Tax payers pay for the uninsured as well. Educate yourself about those statistics - you may find your argument is a hollow one.
Personally, I agree with you about Persians. It's only a movie, and it's probably accurate to some degree if today's leading examples of Islam and Arabs are any indicator.
To Islamics and Arabs, if you don't like the stereotype, do something about it. Don't live it, condemn it in other Muslims when you see it and do everything you can to assist in the so-called "war on terror".

[jabberwock11]

"Personally, I agree with you about Persians. It's only a movie, and it's probably accurate to some degree if today's leading examples of Islam and Arabs are any indicator."

Give me a break. I'm sure they didn't have hugely obese guys walking around with crab claws for arms and all the crazy *** like that. That part was so stupid people were laughing in the theatre. Not to mention the Spartans had slaves so all this talk about freedom would have been just that, talk. Secondly Persians/Iranians aren't Arabs and Islam wasn't even around in the time the movie portrays, so that proves that you are a complete ignorant fool. Bottom line is it%u2019s just a movie based on comic book, and even though the comic book was based on an actual event the characterizations are far from the truth.

[nrgspirit]

jabberwock11,
No $#it? Really, they didn't have those demi-humans with crab claws back then? That just knocks a hole in my reality. No kidding, Sherlock.

Iranians are Arabs, Einstein. Look it up. And you are correct about Islam. That's only about 500 years old. However, I refer to the socio-political-religious climate of the region, which I said "if today's leading examples of Islam and Arabs are any indicator." That would be correct. "If" they are any "example". Read what is written, not what you want to read into it.

[anopinion1]

You are probably right nrgspirit!!!
maybe they wont be as big of a drain on things as i assume..
I don't exactly know why I feel compelled to argue against homosexual marriage. Most the time it goes on deaf ears. and all sides of are based on opinion pretty much so i can understand that much. (all are opinion except some of the leviticus stuff singinrick goes into).

[anopinion1]

the first 2 years of really did'nt teach all that much but it was interesting..
I persued other thing because i realized you basically had to become a doctor to actually do something with the major. (prob biggest mistake i have made in awhile was going into that major).

but i would'nt change it.