Brownback Echoes Pace: Gay Acts Immoral
Presidential Contender Backs General's Remark About Homosexuality
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CBS News RAW: In an interview with the Chicago Tribune, Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said homosexual acts are immoral.
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The chairman of the Joint Chiefs also said in an interview with the Chicago Tribune: "I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts. I do not believe the United States is well-served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way."
Lawmakers of both parties criticized the remarks, but Brownback's letter called the criticism "both unfair and unfortunate."
"We should not expect someone as qualified, accomplished and articulate as General Pace to lack personal views on important moral issues," Brownback said. "In fact, we should expect that anyone entrusted with such great responsibility will have strong moral views."
Asked whether he agreed with Pace's comments, Brownback said: "I do not believe being a homosexual is immoral, but I do believe homosexual acts are. I'm a Catholic and the church has clear teachings on this."
Democratic candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama initially tried to sidestep the issue when asked about it this week, but both sought to clarify their opposition to Pace's comments on Thursday.
Obama did not directly answer on Wednesday when asked if same-sex relationships were immoral, Newsday reported. Obama issued a statement on Thursday, saying, "I do not agree with General Pace that homosexuality is immoral. Attempts to divide people like this have consumed too much of our politics over the past six years."
Clinton told ABC News Wednesday that it's for "others to conclude" whether homosexuality is immoral. On Thursday, she put out a statement saying that she'd heard from gay friends who said her answer sounded evasive.
"I should have echoed my colleague Senator John Warner (news, bio, voting record)'s statement forcefully stating that homosexuality is not immoral because that is what I believe," her statement said.
Meanwhile, Democratic hopeful Bill Richardson called Pace's remarks "unfortunate" and said the Bush administration should reject them, adding that he would push Congress to repeal military's "don't ask, don't tell policy" in which gay service members are required to keep their sexual orientation private.
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See all 60 CommentsIs that like "I smoked marijuana, but I didn't inhale"?
If the conservatives made it a primary tenant of their agenda that people who wear orange are immoral, Brownback and Guiliani and Mit and all the rest would come out as "staunch anti-orange candidates".
Is that like "I smoked marijuana, but I didn't inhale"?
Posted by oleander8 at 11:17 AM : Mar 16, 2007"
I think it means that he just likes to watch but not participate.....
Notice that these issues never really get addressed once in office. Multinational corporate interests sure advance rapidly. The suckers, who vote for these snakes based on these issues are leaving their children and future generations destined to toil for bread crumbs the fields of private wealth no complaints tolerated.
Someday these politicians won't run on these "moral issues" they won't need the citizens vote. They'll be appointed by huge consolidations of wealth that managed to buy this and other countries.
This guy's statement just doesn't make too much sense.
that was in the article
What the heck is this "it's for others to decide" ***. This is a issue in the election to me.
I would like to know exactly where these people stand on issues like this. They will run into them while in office, and if it comes to a vote I want to know where they stand. I don't want someone in office that will sway where the wind blows on issues they should have definate view on.
Instead there will be totalitarian rule that will think and decide all issues for the people. There will be no need for concern, just follow the rules and work the fields like good little peasants. It will be utopia for the lemmings who are stressed to face these issues rushing to the polls on behalf of pastors like Ted Haggard to insure america's moral compass is calibrated.
Brownback and Pace won't say a word about that... I bet they probably have their own gay male prostitutes.... So either condemn the cheerleader in chief too or STFUP...
Then you have George Bush making his flaming gay college cheerleading dorm mate ambassador to Poland, remember the last phony presidential debates where George "Lips" Bush kep bringing up Poland? He just couldn't take his mind off of his old gay lover..
Also there's a woman in Nevada who recently ran for office that claims she was involved in bisexual threesomes with Bush and Ashe and supplied other gay males for them.
GAYEST ADMINISTRATION EVER!
What is less of a moral act:
Senying someone their unalienable rights because they are gay
or
having *** with a willing partner of the same ***
What a backwards individual.
Ted Haggard is just one of many examples of this judgmental hypocritical sexually repressed crowd.
I worked for the military for a few years, and traveled around to a lot of different bases around the world, and Kay Griggs helped me put 2 and 2 together about a lot of strange things that I didn't quite understand back then. I think she's telling the truth, go check out her video, I'm sure you can find it at video.google.com or youtube.com or somewhere if you do a search for her name.
On the morning of June 29, 1989, pandemonium erupted in the corridors of power in the nation's capital. ``Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' screamed the front-page headline of the Washington Times with the kicker ``Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.''
The Times reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite.''
The exposei centered on the role of one Craig Spence, a Republican powerbroker known for his lavish ``power cocktail'' parties. Spence was well connected. He celebrated Independence Day 1988 by conducting a midnight tour of the White House in the company of two teenage male prostitutes among others in his party.
And stop bending down under f@ggots!
These are unfortunately are mentally deficient individuals trying to con a whole society that their homosexual perversion is so-called 'normal'.
And we have General Pace-setter to thank for standing up for what is good about America!
Now the lower rank can 'fall in!' LOL
It was a joke. besides even as an atheist I still say things like godd*amn it and such. It's out of habit, but for me it has no more religious significance then someone saying holy cow.
Oh and I disagree, even in a foxhole I'd still be an atheist.
Oooh, punish us for being immoral, Senator *******! Be a good Republican, now, you KNOW the position ....
sodomy (the basic definition)(summed up by me)(god help us)
Any sexual act performed, that is not for the soul purpose of reproduction. examples;homosexual acts; beastiality; masturbation; you get the idea...
basically almost every person on earth sins, alot.
according to this.
that is if your sect of christianity believes sodomy is a bad thing.
I do not claim to know much from the bible(confirmed atheist here also), i looked up sodomy on wikipedia and came up with this haha.
go take a 5 in the bathroom and relieve your sexual frustrations. and stop dreaming about making brownback's back brown.
It's O.K. guys. Nobody cares about who is in a consenting sexual relationship with another, except for people who are emotionally stunted and sexually repressed.
Let me add another point here: nobody, and I mean NOBODY is threatened by the sexuality of attractive lesbians. Men and women only feel threatened by bull-***** and ***, because they threaten the fragile masculinity of reactionary men, and place the sexuality of these men in question, in the eyes of their mates.
If men like Rove, Cheney, Pace, Ashcroft, Brownback, Libby, Gonzales, Coutler, and Limbaugh, found the courage to come out of the closet about their true sexual preferences, I think that we would all be a lot better off.
I am a gay man.
I was born gay and didn't choose to be.
I am a Republican.
I am hurt by this.
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of of beard"
Well I guess that makes Brownback and Pace both sinners and doing immoral acts.
I am an extremely gay man.
I am also a Republican.
This hurts me deeply.
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of of beard"
Well I guess that makes Brownback and Pace both sinners and doing immoral acts.
Posted by sshard at 06:54 PM : Mar 16, 2007
I don't know about that. Maybe they're right, but maybe g*ay se*x is only really disgusting if you do it with one of them? I have several g*ay friends (plus a g*ay son and g*ay step-son that I haven't asked yet) and none of them would screw either of those guys in the first place. That must be what has them so *****ed at g*ays. I mean even Ted Haggard had to turn to a prostitute in order to walk on the wild side.
Murder = moral.
Just making sure I got that.
Murder = moral.
Just making sure I got that.
Posted by j0hnwi11iams at 01:37 AM : Mar 17, 2007
LOL! Add to that that Bush is God and you're now qualified to vote republican. ;-)
Dam*n they're such hypocrites that it really is fu*cking breath taking, isn't it?
Some very bright people also go into homosexuality . The problem being that very bright people are often different, they think differently and often dont like playing sport etc, so they are told that they are different because they are in fact gay, which isn't true, they are different because they are bright and sometimes see things differently to others, and can talk on a different level etc..
Agnim, just give homosexuals a few years and most of them will be dead anyway, haven't you read the horrific rise in sexually transmitted diseases amongst ***, some are caused by the consumption of faecal matter..
One article to look up is ..Homosexuals and Sexually Transmitted Infections. now watch the back lash that I will get from my bog... and with a beautiful name like mine being destroyed, I have every right to complain.
Stop spreading lies about something you know nothing about, please.
I am a very gay man.
I was born gay and did not choose it.
I am also a Republican.
This side of the Rupublican party really hurts me.
Posted by Gaye5 at 08:29 AM : Mar 17, 2007"
I know how you must feel with the name that indicate deviance and perversion.
I was a bit incensed at the hijacking of that lovely word by the filth-stirring f@gs also.
Decent citizens can't be caught using the word 'gay' anymore. LOL
This side of the Rupublican party really hurts me.
Posted by Processorr2 at 09:19 AM : Mar 17, 2007"
Ever tried suicide?
Suicide is a honorable route out of f@g 'hurt' for those who can't wait for a real cure.
And many a good f@gs have taken the path of suicide, for its....
Better dead than gay!
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