NEW YORK, March 19, 2007

Iraq: Four Years Later

Polls: War Has Been Longer, Bloodier Than Americans Expected; Most Favor Troop Pullout

  • Play CBS Video Video Bush: Iraq Can Still Be Won

    On the fourth anniversary of the beginning of the Iraq war, President Bush insisted that victory could still be achieved. "The fight is difficult but it can be won," he said. Jim Axelrod reports.

  • Video Lessons From Abu Ghraib

    Ret. Army Captain Andrew Exum weighs in on the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib and remembers his tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • Video Containing Iraq's Hotspots

    More than half of all insurgent attacks have taken place in Baghdad and Anbar Province. As a result, the U.S. troop buildup has been primarily focused on those two areas. Allen Pizzey reports.

    • A U.S. army vehicle burns in an eastern suburb of Baghdad, Iraq, March 18, 2007, after an apparent attack by insurgents.

      A U.S. army vehicle burns in an eastern suburb of Baghdad, Iraq, March 18, 2007, after an apparent attack by insurgents.  (AP/APTN/Pool)

    • U.S. Army soldiers of the 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, out of Fort Lewis, Washington, on patrol in Baqouba, Iraq, March 15, 2007.

      U.S. Army soldiers of the 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, out of Fort Lewis, Washington, on patrol in Baqouba, Iraq, March 15, 2007.  (AP Photo/U.S. Army)

    • Anti-war demonstrators in Bangor, Maine, sing protest songs and carry signs including

      Anti-war demonstrators in Bangor, Maine, sing protest songs and carry signs including "Patriot For Peace" and "Support The Troops - Impeach Bush" as they form a human peace sign in the snow, March 18, 2007.  (AP)

    • Iraqi National Police recruits practice their search techniques at the Joint Security Station in the Hurriyah neighborhood of Baghdad, Iraq, March 14, 2007.

      Iraqi National Police recruits practice their search techniques at the Joint Security Station in the Hurriyah neighborhood of Baghdad, Iraq, March 14, 2007.  (AP)

    • Celeste Zappala - whose son, Army Sgt. Sherwood Baker, was killed by an explosion in Baghdad - listens to a speaker at an Iraq war anniversary vigil in Philadelphia, March 18, 2007.

      Celeste Zappala - whose son, Army Sgt. Sherwood Baker, was killed by an explosion in Baghdad - listens to a speaker at an Iraq war anniversary vigil in Philadelphia, March 18, 2007.  (AP)

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  • Interactive Iraq: 4 Years Later

    The conflict wears on as the nation struggles to rebuild.

  • Photo Essay Anniversary Protests

    Demonstrations around the world as the war in Iraq enters its fifth year.

  • Interactive American Heroes

    Profiles of U.S. soldiers who've died in Iraq, a look at the war's toll and pictures of mourning.

(CBS)  After four years of war, Americans are increasingly pessimistic about the prospects for success in Iraq and a majority wants U.S. troops to begin coming home, according to an analysis of data from CBS News and CBS News/New York Times polls.

Americans did not expect the war to last this long, nor did they think it would cost as many lives as it has.

President Bush continues to receive low ratings on his handling of Iraq and most Americans now oppose his decision to send more troops there. Democrats, meanwhile, are challenging Mr. Bush's Iraq policy, winning House committee approval this week for a troop withdrawal deadline of Sept. 1, 2008, but suffering defeat in the Senate on a separate plan to end the war.

More than half the public now believes the U.S. will not succeed in Iraq. A February poll found that just 20 percent think there's something the U.S. can do to stop the fighting between Iraqis, while 70 percent think there's not much the U.S. can do about it.

WILL THE U.S. SUCCEED IN IRAQ?

3/2007
Very likely
11%
Somewhat likely
34%
Not very/at all likely
53%

Nearly seven in ten Americans now say things are going badly for the U.S. in Iraq; just 29 percent say things are going well. That's a complete reversal from May 2003, two months into the war, when more than seven in 10 thought things in Iraq were going well. Assessments remained positive until shortly after Saddam Hussein was captured in December 2003. Since then, however, views have become gloomier.

The war has been longer and bloodier than Americans expected. At the start of the war, Americans thought it would be a short conflict with fewer than 1,000 fatalities. Since then, over 3,200 U.S. troops have died and more than 24,000 have been wounded.

Asked in March 2003 how many U.S. troops they thought would die in the war, 66 percent of Americans said less than 1,000. Just 22 percent thought more than 1,000 U.S. soldiers would be killed.

EXPECTATIONS FOR U.S. LOSS OF LIFE

3/20-3/24/2003
Less than 1,000
66%
1,000-5,000
16%
More than that
6%

Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have also been killed in the war, but precise figures are difficult to come by. Estimates range from more than 50,000 into the hundreds of thousands, the Associated Press says. The U.N. Assistance Mission for Iraq reports more than 34,000 deaths in 2006 alone.

In April 2003, just weeks after the fall of Baghdad, seven in 10 Americans thought U.S. troops would be in Iraq for two years or less. Only 27 percent thought they'd be there longer than two years.

Now, Americans indicate they're ready for the troops to start coming home. Fifty-six percent want to decrease U.S. troop levels or remove all U.S. forces from Iraq. Nearly six in ten oppose President Bush's decision to deploy more than 20,000 additional troops to Iraq.

U.S. TROOP LEVELS IN IRAQ SHOULD…

3/2007
Increase
22%
Keep the same number
17%
Decrease
28%
Remove all troops
28%

Americans give the president some leeway, however. More than half think it will take at six months to determine if the troop increase is working.

Despite the political arguments that have surrounded the troop and funding decisions, more than seven in ten Americans say one can oppose the war and still support U.S. troops.

The American people continue to give Mr. Bush low marks for his leadership on Iraq. His current approval rating is 28 percent; he has not reached the 30 percent mark since October 2006.

That's a far cry from April 2003, after the fall of Baghdad, when Mr. Bush enjoyed a high of 79 percent approval. But as U.S. troops continued to suffer casualties, even after the president's declaration that major combat had ended, more Americans began to disapprove of Mr. Bush's handling of the war. There was a brief surge in support following Saddam's capture, but more Americans have disapproved than approved of the president's handing of the war since March 2004.

Mr. Bush has also been hurt by the recent reports of shoddy treatment of veterans at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Three in four Americans do not think the Bush administration has done enough to care for these wounded soldiers.


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by reillybinx March 21, 2007 6:14 PM EDT
The senators are sure taking a chance in angering
the hispanic vote by going after Gonzales.
Many I have talked to are very protective of
him. They should drop the matter or we will
suffer consequences and voters.
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by hurst071 March 21, 2007 1:45 AM EDT
This is some interesting reading and it reminds me of why I don%u2019t read these things. I have to ask what qualifications some of you have to speak with such "expertise" on Iraq and insurgent activities? I%u2019m guessing not much real experience (books and protest rallies don%u2019t count..oh yea trips to Dubi and movies don%u2019t count either). I have met several Iraqis who put their life on the line everyday for a better life and are doing so because they want to, it was our support that gave them that opportunity. Do I think the "war plan" could have been better? Yes I do, but then again I chalk the "plan" up to making those Americans happy that have forgot that wars are not pretty and that one needs to be just as aggressive and militant as your enemy in order to put fear into them so they will cringe at the thought of attacking you. But we will come back to reality where we must fight wars in a "touchy feely" manner as not to upset people. I%u2019m not a evil crusader, but insurgents only know one thing, brutality. Look at the insurgents in Chechnya, the Taliban, Kumar Rouge, and now the Takfirist, Sulfis and Wahabis. Oh well my 2 cents to all those individuals that have never lost someone to combat or looked into the eyes of a known insurgent. Some of you should try it sometime you may change your mind.
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by j-whitman March 20, 2007 4:28 PM EDT
Here's what some of our troops think, 9th Cavalry Regiment - Link from conservative news DRUDGE REPORT - They don' like it much.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070320004302.w8d2wm3v&show_article=1
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by middleman8 March 20, 2007 3:17 PM EDT
"four years latter still in Iraq"

toldyouso21
Very well put ,good explanation .
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by seniorengine March 20, 2007 5:58 AM EDT
If our troops would leave today or in 50 years, there will be a civil war in Iraq. People in the mid-east have been fighting for thousands of years. They're all nuts. George Bush is a real zippy the pinhead. He is too stupid to realize it. Cut the losses and come home. Spend all of time and wasted effort from the war to throw Rice, Cheney, and Bush in jail.
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by toldyouso21 March 20, 2007 4:15 AM EDT
4 years later still in Baghdad?

We are still fighting insurgents in Baghdad during all these 4 years. How long it will take to flush them out of Iraq and take control of the country?
Posted by diplomacy3 at 05:46 PM : Mar 19, 2007


Answer your own question: How long would you resist and continue to rebel against strangers who invaded America? Even if they claim they are "freeing you" from the "Republican Monsters", deposed Bush and said they were bringing you a better form of government? At what point should you just roll over and accept the invaders? At what point would you forgive them for bombing this country, maybe killing or torturing your loved ones, destroying your society and culture and forcing you to have their type of government? When do you lay down your love and loyalty for your own sovereignty and accept the mastery of those who came uninvited to remake your world?

When you can answer that, you have the answer to how long we will be fighting resistance in Iraq.

Either that, or we kill all men of fighting age and maybe even all boys and first borns to ensure no one is left to hate us for what we did to them.
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by diplomacy3 March 19, 2007 8:46 PM EDT
4 years later still in Baghdad?

We are still fighting insurgents in Baghdad during all these 4 years. How long it will take to flush them out of Iraq and take control of the country?
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by toldyouso21 March 19, 2007 3:19 PM EDT
We started it, we've got to somehow finish it. We cannot abandon the Iraqi people like we did before. Our credibility in the world is already at an all time low, if nations can't trust us to finish what we start then we'll never regain any respect.
Posted by Sprvtr at 11:53 AM : Mar 19, 2007


How is it that the invaders and instigators of this horrorible war (that would be the US) is soooo perverted that we continually pretend we are saviours and heros of the Iraqi people instead of admitting and accepting our true role?

we did start it and we made a huge mess of it and many people who had managed to survive Saddam all those years are now dead to the war we started. But in the middle of our rampage, we put these rusted coat hangers over our heads and declare them halos. It is as if we were that dad who stabbed his 11 month old baby and threw it out of the window, now showing up--insisting he and only he can perform CPR to save the kid. Who in their right mind buys the "saviour theory" except the pscho trying to emotionally masturb@te their own conscience?

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by sprvtr March 19, 2007 2:53 PM EDT
We started it, we've got to somehow finish it. We cannot abandon the Iraqi people like we did before. Our credibility in the world is already at an all time low, if nations can't trust us to finish what we start then we'll never regain any respect.
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by wizest March 19, 2007 2:33 PM EDT
We went to war with Britain against Germany for a honest reason. We had a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor
by Japan. We fought on two fronts, on two oceans, on each side of our country, defeated them both in four years.
Why, are we in Iraq?
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by revlin1 March 19, 2007 2:10 PM EDT
ACTUALLY, the media has been driving AMERICANS and the polls viewpoint and mistrust distrust of the war effort for the past two years. Congress HASN'T GOTTEN the funds that are going into the effort and they WOULD LIKE TO but can't...the economy is being driven in a healthy way because the military is spending their "combat pay" and foreign service pay back home in America on American soil, along with all those over paid contractors, who have to be there working alongside....and if and when, we pull out, watch how much it costs those AMERICANS marching around with signs to fill up their gas tanks! (among other repercussions) Some people just don't get it....I haven't started yet on the problems our leaving the Mid-East or Iraq itself will set off forever...and nonending....
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by revlin1 March 19, 2007 2:10 PM EDT
ACTUALLY, the media has been driving AMERICANS and the polls viewpoint and mistrust distrust of the war effort for the past two years. Congress HASN'T GOTTEN the funds that are going into the effort and they WOULD LIKE TO but can't...the economy is being driven in a healthy way because the military is spending their "combat pay" and foreign service pay back home in America on American soil, along with all those over paid contractors, who have to be there working alongside....and if and when, we pull out, watch how much it costs those AMERICANS marching around with signs to fill up their gas tanks! (among other repercussions) Some people just don't get it....I haven't started yet on the problems our leaving the Mid-East or Iraq itself will set off forever...and nonending....
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by gwagener March 19, 2007 1:49 PM EDT
What event happened 4 years ago? Wasit the initial "shock and awe" attack, the beginning of the full-scale air offensive, or the beginning of the ground offensive?
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by inventagod March 19, 2007 1:46 PM EDT
These are YOUR hard-taxed dollars Bu$h is throwing away here! "Follow the money!" is more than a line from a movie, it's the truth. Wads of cash are disappearing into the Halliburton wallets, and into dishonest Iraqi politicians bank accounts. Rebuilding? only on that palace Bu$h is calling an 'embassy'...
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by searingtruth March 19, 2007 10:30 AM EDT
"It's not a war on terror gone wrong. It's a war on American liberty gone right."
SearingTruth
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by tbweb March 19, 2007 10:25 AM EDT
--bryonbir

It is for nothing, the Iraqi people don't want our freedom! The best way to support our troops is to bring them home or at least redeploy to give them a much needed break and turn it over to the Iraqi's! The Iraqi government wants the U.S. to stay, the Iraqi people don't! I support our troops, the President and our Government as a whole, I'm very patriotic trust me. The Iraqi's won't appreciate the U.S. sacrifice when this is over, the U.S. sacrifice is not appreciated now, so in that context this is for nothing! Remember greeted as liberators? Those flowers thrown at our troops? The only flowers being thrown are road side bombs!
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by tuckerndfw March 19, 2007 10:22 AM EDT
The "war on terror" represents one of the largest transfers of money from the US treasury to politicians and their cronies in US history.

The "war on terror" is more accurately called "war on US taxpayers and the US Constitution."

It is painfully clear the "war on terror" is an excuse for politicians to loot the US treasury on behalf of themselves and their cronies, and restrict Constitutional rights, than it does "protecting Americans."

George Bush (and many others) should be impeached and indicted for war crimes. And many other crimes including conspiracy to commit murder, theft, and fraud.
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by iceman_1960 March 19, 2007 10:08 AM EDT
"The comment below me--kills me!!! It's not for nothing!!!! IT'S FOR FREEDOM!!!!!! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!!" Posted by bryonblr

Sorry.

The time period for saving this FIASCO with pickup truck bumper sticker slogans expired at least two years ago.
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by bluestardad March 19, 2007 10:04 AM EDT
ASK THEM HOW MUCH AIPAC INFLUENCES THEIR VOTES ON IRAQ? IF YOU DON%u2019T KNOW WHAT AIPAC IS THEN DO A LITTLE RESEARCH OR SHUT THEHELL UP YOU IDIOTS! TRULY SOME OF YOU ARE SO IGNORANT IT DEFIES REASON THAT YOU CAN CROSS THE ROAD!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm


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Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

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by searingtruth March 19, 2007 8:29 AM EDT
"We have failed in our duty to provide an example to the world of a just government."
SearingTruth

"Some judged them misguided, or unusually patriotic, but in truth they were just evil."
SearingTruth

"And for the voiceless, it was a march, to death."
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