Pentagon OKs Deploying Iraq Backup

Combat Aviation Unit Heading To Iraq To Support Surge; Saddam Ally Dead

(CBS/AP)  Some 2,600 soldiers from a combat aviation unit will go to Iraq ahead of schedule, part of the support troops the Pentagon has said are needed to back the extra combat units President Bush is sending there.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates approved the deployment of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division combat aviation brigade 45 days earlier than planned, meaning they will go around May, Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said Friday.

The approval will mean roughly 30,000 troops eventually will go to Baghdad and Anbar Province in the Bush administration's buildup to crack down on rising sectarian violence and insurgents, Whitman said.

Two months ago, Mr. Bush ordered 21,500 additional American troops to Iraq to help calm the violence. He did not initially mention the support units that would also be needed.

Officials later said that the number of support troops needed for the influx could be around 7,000. These include some 2,400 combat support troops and some 2,200 military police to help with an anticipated increase in detainees picked up during the crackdown.

Asked what he would say to critics of the steady additions to the original number, Whitman noted that some of the requests came after new U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus arrived in Iraq and assessed what he needed.

"The secretary wants to be responsive to the commanders," he said, adding that Gates wants to give commanders what they believe they need to do the job as long as the requests are justified.

Meanwhile, the military reported Friday the deaths of two more American troops. A statement said a soldier was killed by an explosion during fighting Thursday in a mainly Sunni province northwest of Baghdad, and a Marine died Wednesday in the western Anbar province.

The Marine's death was being classified as a non-combat incident and was still under investigation, according to the statement.

In other developments:

A military panel found a 101st Airborne soldier guilty of three counts of negligent homicide but not guilty of premeditated murder in the deaths of three Iraqi detainees.

Saadoun Hammadi, a longtime ally of Saddam Hussein and one of the most senior Iraq Baath party leaders who also served as a rare Shiite prime minister under Saddam has died in a hospital in Germany, a Baath party spokesman and the party's Web site said. Hammadi was released from a prison camp in Iraq in February 2004, after nine months in the custody of U.S. troops. He left Iraq for medical treatment in Jordan, Lebanon and Germany, but settled in Qatar in early 2005. He was believed to be suffering from leukemia.

A roadside bomb exploded Thursday in eastern Baghdad, killing four U.S. soldiers and wounding two others, the U.S. military said. The attack began when one bomb went off as a U.S. unit was returning from a search operation in the mostly Shiite area, the military said. Moments later, a second bomb exploded, killing and wounding the soldiers.

A coroner conducting an inquest into a U.S. "friendly fire" attack that killed a British soldier during the Iraq war said Friday the death was entirely avoidable. Oxfordshire Assistant Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker also criticized the U.S. military for failing to cooperate with his investigation into the incident. "I believe that the full facts have not yet come to light," Walker said as he began reading his verdict.

House Democrats have pushed ahead with plans to set a September 2008 troop withdrawal deadline but suffered defeat on a more modest plan in the Senate.

An attack against the top official in the Sadr City area of Baghdad, home of the Shiite Mahdi Army militia, has created tension in the ranks of militiamen, with some blaming a faction unhappy about cooperation with Americans, a local commander said Friday. Gunmen opened fire on the convoy carrying Rahim al-Darraji Thursday in eastern Baghdad, seriously wounding him and killing two of his bodyguards on Thursday, police and a local official said.

A radical Shiite cleric on Friday calling on his supporters to resist U.S. forces in Iraq, and a local militia commander blamed an attack against the mayor of Sadr City on a faction unhappy about cooperation with Americans. "The occupiers want to harm this beloved (Sadr City) and tarnish its name by spreading false rumors and allegations that negotiations and cooperation are ongoing between you and them," Muqtada al-Sadr said in a statement read to worshippers by Sheik Haider al-Jabri. "I am confident that you will not make concessions to them and will remain above them. Raise your voices in love and brotherhood and unity against your enemy and shout 'No, no America.'"


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by baldfrog-2009 March 16, 2007 6:41 AM PDT

To ALL you Republican W4 Iraq War Lovers being paid by Rove probably to publish his cockroach fecal matter on here. Yes being paid to go through the INTERNET for articles, the press to publish editorials in papers call in radio media you rotten pastie faced Rovian Young Turks.I am not buying it and trust me I know Roves tactics from the Committee to Reelect the President in 1972.He will stoop to anything.Ask someone who lived through that(Watergate era) who ole Rover's former boss was a player.Maybe ask John Dean? who knows about that one.I suspect that's all ya'll do is go through press articles,the net,to and call Rush Bimbas E.D.Limba, call in show over and over again masturbating him with Republican accolades,yet another turk probably on the Republican payroll.
Hop on over to the recruiters office and enlist take the rest of your pals with ya.Surge on!. Ya don't even have to do desert warfare training anymore so they can get you in the game quick.Check out Joe Bidon's comments on W's War, from the Senate.Then go bleed blood for the war you so dearly believe in.Report back to us the Mission.Take Mitch McConnell,Lindsey Graham and Rove with ya to Cover Your Back.Yeah go join and after your 3rd tour or so come back and tell us all how Iraqi Freedom is all working.Be sure to get some tips at Walter Reed before ya GO!Another great Republican bungle that hurt our troops.

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by rharrin1 March 16, 2007 6:57 AM PDT

I want to know when we are going to start using the word ESCALATION. It is starting to get bigger than a surge.

If the reports we have been getting are TRUE why are more troops needed?

Is this just a way to change the topic ( gonzales )?

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by tuckerndfw March 16, 2007 6:57 AM PDT

It will require between one and two million additional US forces to effectively implement a military dictatorship in Iraq. Or, to impose a US puppet government on Iraqis. And, even at those levels, the insurgency will continue for as long as US combat forces occupy Iraq.

If Congress is not going to cut off funding, they need to implement the military draft so all 18 to 24 year olds can be called up to serve in the occupation army.

Sending in cannon fodder to be picked off by snipers and other small or one man units is pure folly. And will not lead to anything other than the waste of even more lives on all sides.

If Bush & his bootlickers want to "stay the course," "support our troops" and "win" in Iraq, the ONLY option is to increase troop levels far beyond the current number. And the only way to achieve those numbers is by a military draft.

It is time to put up or shut up.

Either begin drafting all 18 to 24 year olds, including GOP donors' & politicians' kids, or remove US combat forces from Iraq.

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by baldfrog-2009 March 16, 2007 7:12 AM PDT

We couldn't do it with 500,000 on the ground in Nam can't do it now even with the reserves and multiple tours.Our whole Armed Forces are barely 500,000 for the whole nation.Remember you lets get one for the gipper and win this thing Republicans lets not hurt our reelection chances with a draft but we will kill and lie to kids for politics and egos,or be maimed for the rest of their lives you sick creeps.
You have maimed this Nation,Physically,Morally,Financially and in ways we will pay and Our children will pay with your no new taxes B.S. for years come.Lets bring up the Mayans to cleanse the White House and Capitol from your spiritually sick the ship of darkness you have placed this Nation in.
Now we have this fourth string B Kissing General David Petraeus trying to run a war that all the best generals have either been fired or forced to retired from,the first General Shinseki who predicted this f-up fiasco before the war and was fired by Rumsfeld and Wolfwitz in Feb of 2003.T Franks couldn't get out of there quick enough to get home to write his book ah the brilliance of all the this in search of excellence.

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by baldfrog-2009 March 16, 2007 7:12 AM PDT

We couldn't do it with 500,000 on the ground in Nam can't do it now even with the reserves and multiple tours.Our whole Armed Forces are barely 500,000 for the whole nation.Remember you lets get one for the gipper and win this thing Republicans lets not hurt our reelection chances with a draft but we will kill and lie to kids for politics and egos,or be maimed for the rest of their lives you sick creeps.
You have maimed this Nation,Physically,Morally,Financially and in ways we will pay and Our children will pay with your no new taxes B.S. for years come.Lets bring up the Mayans to cleanse the White House and Capitol from your spiritually sick the ship of darkness you have placed this Nation in.
Now we have this fourth string B Kissing General David Petraeus trying to run a war that all the best generals have either been fired or forced to retired from,the first General Shinseki who predicted this f-up fiasco before the war and was fired by Rumsfeld and Wolfwitz in Feb of 2003.T Franks couldn't get out of there quick enough to get home to write his book ah the brilliance of all the this in search of excellence.

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by tuckerndfw March 16, 2007 7:13 AM PDT

The reality is that Iraqis did not "greet us as liberators" and do not support our presence in Iraq.

The problem appears to be that the Bush administration refuses to acknowledge that reality. And, continues sending in too few troops to deal with the reality that US forces are a hostile occupation army attempting to impose a miitary dicatorship.

Until Americans come to accept the idea that this military occupation will require millions of US forces, there is no chance of "winning" in Iraq.

And, it is unlikely that a hostile occupation army will ever bring peace or stability to Iraq or the region. The US is currently losing ground in Afghanistan due to the fact Afghanis likewise do not support US forces.

This fiasco is far worse than Vietnam ever was.

And primarily due to the general incompetence of all those involved, including General Petraeus. Obviously, his devotion to the GOP and George Bush has impaired any military ability he might have had.

History is not kind to occupation armies. And will not be kind to this one.

The US "lost" in Iraq (and Afghanistan) when liars prevailed in the "planning" (???) stages.

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by mbcsmith March 16, 2007 7:26 AM PDT

Another day in Baghdad with no violence. The troop build up is working. Yet the LIB party, the party of DEFEAT, can't seem to acknowledge any progress made. All you LIB posters need to wake up to the possibility of U.S. military success in Iraq. Support the troops by supporting the mission. Good work U.S. military.

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by karlimhof March 16, 2007 7:44 AM PDT

The request has not yet been made public, according to the report, -

boston globe


I'd prefer to hear it from the horses mouth, not from the Boston-Jerusalem Golbe. thanks anyway.

By the way, is the Boston Globe a member of the "surgers" ?

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by karlimhof March 16, 2007 7:49 AM PDT

Another day in Baghdad with no violence.

Posted by mbcsmith


you must be reporting from inside the Green Zone.

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by nufsedtc5ive March 16, 2007 7:59 AM PDT

The truth is now matter how strong your argument is against the Iraq situation there is nothing you can do. You are powerless. The Congress, you elected, is powerless. President Cheney and his puppet George will do what they want. The next republican president will pick up where this adminstration left off. So just pay your taxes and take it.

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by bluestardad March 16, 2007 8:13 AM PDT

GRAB YOUR ANKLES AMERICA BUSH IS GOING TO INSERT THE DICKTATER IN A LOT FARTHER BEFORE HE GETS OFF!

HERE ARE THE SENATORS UP FOR REELECTION IN 08 WRITE THEM OR QUIT COMPLAINING!

See if Israel will let America out of Iraq?

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm


Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Baucus, Max- (D - MT)
Biden, Joseph R., Jr.- (D - DE)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Durbin, Richard- (D - IL)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Harkin, Tom- (D - IA)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
Johnson, Tim- (D - SD)
Kerry, John F.- (D - MA)
Landrieu, Mary L.- (D - LA)
Lautenberg, Frank R.- (D - NJ)
Levin, Carl- (D - MI)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Pryor, Mark L.- (D - AR)
Reed, Jack- (D - RI)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Rockefeller, John D., IV- (D - WV)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

If you think Americas sacrifice is worth it contact your ELECTED OFFICIAL and tell them http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

The House Speakers email address: [e-mail]

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 8:49 AM PDT

It looks like forcing all of those other geenrals into retirement and putting people like Petraeus in there was perfect for Bush. All of the "unpatriotic" generals that were honest with him and told him how stupid an escalation is are gone and replaced by bobbleheads that are slowly but surely recreating Viet Nam for us. It's a shame Junior never had the nuts to go to Viet Nam and hid behind his Daddy's money instead. Maybe he would see things differently had he not been such a coward.

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by clestes-2009 March 16, 2007 8:50 AM PDT

mbcsmith Take a look at the bigger picture. First of all, there is plenty of violence in Baghdad, it just isn't being reported as "troop violence". Second the rate in violence in cities just outside Baghdad is skyrocketing. The insurgents have simply moved to another place. They have not been defeated.

Thirdly, if things are going so well, why are more troops needed and more after that and after that.

You Bush supporters are so desperate for any good news, you will believe anything.

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by crater7 March 16, 2007 8:53 AM PDT

baldfrog: Your comment hit the target. The only part I disagree with is, there are not enough "MAYAN PRIEST", OR ALL THE PRIEST IN THE WORLD, THAT CAN CLEANSE THE EVIL DEEDS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 8:55 AM PDT

You Bush supporters are so desperate for any good news, you will believe anything.
Posted by clestes

Don't forget, this administration was actually caught planting fake news in the Baghdad newspapers. That says a lot for their credibility.

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by mbcsmith March 16, 2007 9:02 AM PDT

clestes

What is your evidence of violence in Baghdad not being reported? What is your evidence of violence outside Baghdad "skyrocketing"? The LIB press WANTS to report all things bad, but they can't seem to find it.
More troops are needed to clear and hold, so that rebuilding can take place.

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by bigsk8fan March 16, 2007 9:18 AM PDT

I read so many postings by pro-Bush, pro-War Americans that I have come to the conclusions that they need 50,000 Americans to die before they will ever consider changing their opinions. I am now also a proponent that when W leaves office, the next President should NOT protect him. The existing War Crimes Trials that are going on should be allowed to go on unimpeded by the next President. What we really need is to see just how "just and legal" W's war and cause are in Iraq. If it is legal, then W will win a War Crimes Trial. If we have somehow attacked a country that did not attack us, did not aid Al Qaeda, and did not possess WMDs, then he should be found guilty. And he should suffer the same fate as all other War Criminals. That's fair!

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by golfkt March 16, 2007 9:22 AM PDT

And just WHO would be the prosecutors of the War crimes trial...we are NOT signatories to the ICC AND we should not be....
We will NEVER allow that to happen and should NEVER allow that to happen...

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by golfkt March 16, 2007 9:22 AM PDT

And just WHO would be the prosecutors of the War crimes trial...we are NOT signatories to the ICC AND we should not be....
We will NEVER allow that to happen and should NEVER allow that to happen...

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by obiquital March 16, 2007 9:29 AM PDT

Umm... baldfrog, maybe you should read up on your Vietnam War history. When we had the troops there we were winning every major battle. Near the end we were even winning over the hearts and minds of the people. Problem was, some idiot thought it was a good idea to let the North Vietnamese army stay in South Vietnam after the peace treaty was signed. And then what was even better was that we didn't provide the air support to the South Vietnamese that we promised we would do after the North Vietnamese broke the peace treaty. That American air power could have decimated the North Vietnamese army that was fighting a conventional style war at that point. And that is the type of war that we are exceedingly good at.

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 9:57 AM PDT

I read so many postings by pro-Bush, pro-War Americans that I have come to the conclusions that they need 50,000 Americans to die before they will ever consider changing their opinions
Posted by bigsk8fan

Look again at these people. They will never give up. Some of them even say that pulling out of Viet Nam was a mistake. We'd still be THERE if these people ahd their way. As long as bush (or his replacement) says we should be there, they will follow like mindless zombies and refuse to consider the possiblity that this is a mistake.

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 10:03 AM PDT

And just WHO would be the prosecutors of the War crimes trial...we are NOT signatories to the ICC AND we should not be....
Posted by golfkt

In other words, who polices the police? It's a mess. I'd say start with impeachment proceedings and go from there. If there is an impeachment based on war crimes then turn the traitors over to the ICC. They'll deserve what they get.

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by dallison7 March 16, 2007 10:03 AM PDT

Again, not doing our troops any justice at all who are giving you the right to bash your president and live comfortably here in the USA without a suicide bomber running through your neighborhood sidewalks.
Posted by singinrick at



Don't you just hate it when those little pri*cks run through your neighborhood sidewalks? We used to set '**** traps' for them in my neighborhood... caught a few too! Course that all changed when Bush invaded another country. I guess they figure they don't need to mess with us Americans anymore, those people in that 'other country' will keep us busy.

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by mbcsmith March 16, 2007 10:03 AM PDT

Look again at these people. They will never give up. Some of them even say that pulling out of Viet Nam was a mistake. We'd still be THERE if these people ahd their way. As long as bush (or his replacement) says we should be there, they will follow like mindless zombies and refuse to consider the possiblity that this is a mistake.
Posted by rsoxfan1123 at 09:57 AM : Mar 16, 2007


More drivel from the LIB DEFEATIST party. Not once have I seen a LIB post praising the good work of our soldiers or the progress being made. It is against their agenda for the U.S. to succeed. Some might think they are rooting for the ENEMY!.

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by Syndicate March 16, 2007 10:05 AM PDT

I Need at least the equivalent to the number killed in car crashes since the begining of the war. Which is now at about 200,000 and never reported. If you put the death toll in perspective you see that its really low considering what is trying to be accomplished. Iraq is actually safer than our roads.

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 10:07 AM PDT

cbscrash07-you really need to show up at the funerals and read that to the families of the dead. Maybe you could stop by Walter Reed while you're at it. Your diminishment of the value of human life is appalling.

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by dallison7 March 16, 2007 10:07 AM PDT

Iraq is actually safer than our roads.
Posted by cbscrash07

You should, by all means, park your pickup and enlist!

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 10:15 AM PDT

You should, by all means, park your pickup and enlist!
Posted by dallison7

I think he has the perfect eulogy for the republicans to read...

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by golfkt March 16, 2007 10:27 AM PDT

No, you don't start impeach proceedings because you disagree with a policy...rather you must have a clear breach of the law...There is no breach of the law...intelligence gathering and interpreatation is an art, not a science...so someone would never be impeached because intelligence was interpreted incorrectly....especially in light of 9/11...impeachment would start here...and NO congress in the land (demi/repub) would advocate turning over any President to the ICC.. that WILL not happen...
I don't know if you fully comprehend war crimes issues...and the politics surrounding same..

One reason why we don't submit to ICC....

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 10:43 AM PDT

golfkt-you provide an excellent example of the slipperiness of these thugs. I am sure they thought the semantics through thoroughly prior to attacking. Their semantic intepretation involves the death, mutilation and economic devastation of our nation as opposed to a *******, however. If they are as innocent as you claim and simply made mistake after mistake after mistake then they are surely incompetent.

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by lars008-2009 March 16, 2007 11:17 AM PDT

Appeal for Redress
Sign this Appeal.
This site is an Appeal For Redress in support of our mission in Iraq.
An Appeal For Redress is an authorized means for active duty military to submit a grievance to Congress. It can be signed by Active Duty, Reserve, or National Guard military personnel.
It is authorized by DoD Directive 1325.6 and DoD Directive 7050.6.
The wording of the Appeal for Redress is:
As an American currently serving my nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to fully support our mission in Iraq and halt any calls for retreat. I also respectfully urge my political leaders to actively oppose media efforts which embolden my enemy while demoralizing American support at home. The War in Iraq is a necessary and just effort to bring freedom to the Middle East and protect America from further attack.
If you are active duty, reservist or national guard, please Sign this Appeal.
Most service members fully support the war in Iraq and feel calls to retreat by Congress and attacks by our media on our conduct and mission act to motivate our enemy while demoralizing our support at home, directly increasing the threat we face and resulting in greater American casualties. This Appeal for Redress provides a way in which individual service members can appeal to Congress to fully support us and actively oppose media attacks on our mission and our morale.
This Appeal will be delivered to members of Congress.
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by grazinggoat March 16, 2007 11:18 AM PDT

...If you put the death toll in perspective you see that its really low considering what is trying to be accomplished. Iraq is actually safer than our roads.
Posted by cbscrash07

-BScrutch07
why don't you move your a$$ there!

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by grazinggoat March 16, 2007 11:25 AM PDT

Gen. David Petraeus, R U sure 2500 are enough? why don't you put the number at 5000, after negotiation with American Moms and dads they may agree on givin' away 2500 of their kids. Why don't you ask the Walking-Liar two daughters to join in?

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by dallison7 March 16, 2007 11:35 AM PDT

QUAGMIRE ACCOMPLISHED!!

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by lars008-2009 March 16, 2007 11:43 AM PDT

there is no peace with fascist nazi islam%u2026.. there never has been in it%u2019s 1400 year existence%u2026

dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone....

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses.....

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2007/691/
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2002_winter_spring/terrorism.htm

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by tank611 March 16, 2007 12:05 PM PDT

QUOTE:

'You should, by all means, park your pickup and enlist'

So anyone who isn't serving in the military is not allowed to have an opinion about the war? 98% of Americans are not serving in the military. So you're saying 98% of Americans don't get to have an opinion on the war?

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by rsoxfan1123 March 16, 2007 12:20 PM PDT

Tank611-no, what he is saying is it is easy to talk like a bigshot when you are not the one losing your arm, leg or head.

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by bildooreilly March 16, 2007 12:42 PM PDT

The only reason the death count isn't quite so high is because of better body armor than in previous wars, however the body armer doesn't protect the limbs and the head. So while the death toll is lower there's lots and lots of very severely injured people coming back from this escapade. The media and the government doesn't want to talk about that.

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by lars008-2009 March 16, 2007 12:43 PM PDT

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

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by dallison7 March 16, 2007 12:52 PM PDT

So anyone who isn't serving in the military is not allowed to have an opinion about the war? 98% of Americans are not serving in the military. So you're saying 98% of Americans don't get to have an opinion on the war?
Posted by Tank611


You haven't served, but the casualties are acceptable to you!!

BUZZ OFF, MAGGOT!!

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by randalds March 16, 2007 1:11 PM PDT

More targets for the civil war participants to shoot at and blow up. More cannon fodder (or in this case IED fodder) to replace all the troops Bush has already murdered or condemned to life long disability. Mission creep accomplished. Once again we've been lied to about this so-called "surge" which as it turns out is nothing more then an extended increase in troops and with more then they said it'd be. Next week they'll ask for a few thousand more and so on and until we're above 200,000. Then if they bring any out they'll puff up their lying fu*cking chest and proclaim it as a troop reduction.

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by bluestardad March 16, 2007 4:07 PM PDT

HERE ARE THE SENATORS UP FOR REELECTION IN 08 WRITE THEM ASK THEM IF ISRAEL WILL LET AMERICA BRING HER TROOPS HOME!

The Israeli PAC owns those who fight hardest to keep America in Iraq! Grow some balls and check it out yourself on this link!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm


Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Baucus, Max- (D - MT)
Biden, Joseph R., Jr.- (D - DE)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Durbin, Richard- (D - IL)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Harkin, Tom- (D - IA)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
Johnson, Tim- (D - SD)
Kerry, John F.- (D - MA)
Landrieu, Mary L.- (D - LA)
Lautenberg, Frank R.- (D - NJ)
Levin, Carl- (D - MI)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Pryor, Mark L.- (D - AR)
Reed, Jack- (D - RI)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Rockefeller, John D., IV- (D - WV)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

If you think Americas sacrifice is worth it contact your ELECTED OFFICIAL and tell them http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

The House Speakers email address: [e-mail]

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by feelfree1 March 16, 2007 4:10 PM PDT

Please support the March 17, 2007 march on the Pentagon, demanding that the cowards, liars, and traitors who occupy that building abandon the illegal war of aggression against Iraq, cancel plans for an illegal war of aggression against Iran, and calling for the impeachment, sentencing, and imprisonment of the megalomaniacal Bush regime.

www.notinourname.net/content/view/16/1/

Don%u2019t forget the huge rallies planned for March 18th, 2007, in a city or town near you. Our rights must be constantly exercised, or they will wither and atrophy.

Please consider signing the following petition, calling for an immediate end to the U.S. inflicted debacle in Iraq.

www.ipetitions.com/petition/OutNow

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by sharncedar March 16, 2007 4:12 PM PDT

This just in : 1,000,000 private contractors hired in support of surge of 20,000

The military has announced they will be hiring 1,000,000 "war contractors" to go to Iraq in a support role for the surge, to support the 20,000 troops that make up the actual surge. "This is not a troop buildup," says General Lie, "we are hiring contractors, not soldiers, and they are only there to support the active troops by carrying out combat missions and so forth."

The contractors will be given US uniforms and equipment, and be administered by the army staff. They are not regular soldiers, however, military officials stress, because they will not receive any medical benefits and their wives will be given to rich men to rape while they are in Iraq.

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by lars008-2009 March 16, 2007 4:16 PM PDT

the war is legal

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement.....

blame saddam for iraq........ even clintoon and the demonic-rats wanted to resumption of hostilities back in 1998

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by musty2u March 16, 2007 4:20 PM PDT

Certainly is lovely when a plan comes together. All you anti-war, anti-Bush, bleeding hearts make me sick with your wanting to see us pull out right away. In due time, the troops will return. Just don't be so impatient.

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by jerr11 March 16, 2007 4:34 PM PDT

Once again the two posterboys of bravery, "Alabama Bush" and "Deferment Cheney" are herding more young Americans to the slaughterhouse.

And those who are cheering this on are every bit as culpable of this crime of deception and greed as the two main perpetrators themselves.

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by musty2u March 16, 2007 4:43 PM PDT

No crime, sorry Charlie, NATO even had a say in what happened. This is part of the clean up. There is still lots of toys to play with and military careers to advance.

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by jerr11 March 16, 2007 4:44 PM PDT

Certainly is lovely when a plan comes together.

Posted by Musty2U at 04:20 PM : Mar 16, 2007

And what a plan!

First, plant the seed of fear (the next attack might be in the form of a mushroom cloud)

Next, doctor the intel (and out any CIA operative who might try to expose the deception)

Then, invade Iraq, (forget Afghanistan and the War on Terror because there ain't no oil in Kabul)

Next, send billions of American taxpayer money over to rebuild the country.

Finally and here's the brilliant stroke of genius, send Halliburton over to harvest the no-bid contracts. What an unexpected windfall! ;-) ;-)

Certainly is lovely when a plan comes together.

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by randalds March 16, 2007 4:45 PM PDT

Once again the two posterboys of bravery, "Alabama Bush" and "Deferment Cheney" are herding more young Americans to the slaughterhouse.

And those who are cheering this on are every bit as culpable of this crime of deception and greed as the two main perpetrators themselves.
Posted by jerr11 at 04:34 PM : Mar 16, 2007

And every bit as gutless yellow-bellied cowards as Bush and Cheney too. How easy it is for them to send other peoples children off to die in the insane absurdity or a war for profit. Everyone of troops that dies is dying just to put money in the bank accounts of defense contractors (read war profiteers) and big oil and if you think Bush and Cheney aren't getting a kickback somewhere then you're living in a fantasy world. This not a war, it's a war crime and Bush and Cheney are the thieves in charge. The blood of our young people is a price they're more then happy to pay to fatten their bank accounts.

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[baldfrog-2009]

To ALL you Republican W4 Iraq War Lovers being paid by Rove probably to publish his cockroach fecal matter on here. Yes being paid to go through the INTERNET for articles, the press to publish editorials in papers call in radio media you rotten pastie faced Rovian Young Turks.I am not buying it and trust me I know Roves tactics from the Committee to Reelect the President in 1972.He will stoop to anything.Ask someone who lived through that(Watergate era) who ole Rover's former boss was a player.Maybe ask John Dean? who knows about that one.I suspect that's all ya'll do is go through press articles,the net,to and call Rush Bimbas E.D.Limba, call in show over and over again masturbating him with Republican accolades,yet another turk probably on the Republican payroll.
Hop on over to the recruiters office and enlist take the rest of your pals with ya.Surge on!. Ya don't even have to do desert warfare training anymore so they can get you in the game quick.Check out Joe Bidon's comments on W's War, from the Senate.Then go bleed blood for the war you so dearly believe in.Report back to us the Mission.Take Mitch McConnell,Lindsey Graham and Rove with ya to Cover Your Back.Yeah go join and after your 3rd tour or so come back and tell us all how Iraqi Freedom is all working.Be sure to get some tips at Walter Reed before ya GO!Another great Republican bungle that hurt our troops.

[rharrin1]

I want to know when we are going to start using the word ESCALATION. It is starting to get bigger than a surge.

If the reports we have been getting are TRUE why are more troops needed?

Is this just a way to change the topic ( gonzales )?

[tuckerndfw]

It will require between one and two million additional US forces to effectively implement a military dictatorship in Iraq. Or, to impose a US puppet government on Iraqis. And, even at those levels, the insurgency will continue for as long as US combat forces occupy Iraq.

If Congress is not going to cut off funding, they need to implement the military draft so all 18 to 24 year olds can be called up to serve in the occupation army.

Sending in cannon fodder to be picked off by snipers and other small or one man units is pure folly. And will not lead to anything other than the waste of even more lives on all sides.

If Bush & his bootlickers want to "stay the course," "support our troops" and "win" in Iraq, the ONLY option is to increase troop levels far beyond the current number. And the only way to achieve those numbers is by a military draft.

It is time to put up or shut up.

Either begin drafting all 18 to 24 year olds, including GOP donors' & politicians' kids, or remove US combat forces from Iraq.

[baldfrog-2009]

We couldn't do it with 500,000 on the ground in Nam can't do it now even with the reserves and multiple tours.Our whole Armed Forces are barely 500,000 for the whole nation.Remember you lets get one for the gipper and win this thing Republicans lets not hurt our reelection chances with a draft but we will kill and lie to kids for politics and egos,or be maimed for the rest of their lives you sick creeps.
You have maimed this Nation,Physically,Morally,Financially and in ways we will pay and Our children will pay with your no new taxes B.S. for years come.Lets bring up the Mayans to cleanse the White House and Capitol from your spiritually sick the ship of darkness you have placed this Nation in.
Now we have this fourth string B Kissing General David Petraeus trying to run a war that all the best generals have either been fired or forced to retired from,the first General Shinseki who predicted this f-up fiasco before the war and was fired by Rumsfeld and Wolfwitz in Feb of 2003.T Franks couldn't get out of there quick enough to get home to write his book ah the brilliance of all the this in search of excellence.

[baldfrog-2009]

We couldn't do it with 500,000 on the ground in Nam can't do it now even with the reserves and multiple tours.Our whole Armed Forces are barely 500,000 for the whole nation.Remember you lets get one for the gipper and win this thing Republicans lets not hurt our reelection chances with a draft but we will kill and lie to kids for politics and egos,or be maimed for the rest of their lives you sick creeps.
You have maimed this Nation,Physically,Morally,Financially and in ways we will pay and Our children will pay with your no new taxes B.S. for years come.Lets bring up the Mayans to cleanse the White House and Capitol from your spiritually sick the ship of darkness you have placed this Nation in.
Now we have this fourth string B Kissing General David Petraeus trying to run a war that all the best generals have either been fired or forced to retired from,the first General Shinseki who predicted this f-up fiasco before the war and was fired by Rumsfeld and Wolfwitz in Feb of 2003.T Franks couldn't get out of there quick enough to get home to write his book ah the brilliance of all the this in search of excellence.

[tuckerndfw]

The reality is that Iraqis did not "greet us as liberators" and do not support our presence in Iraq.

The problem appears to be that the Bush administration refuses to acknowledge that reality. And, continues sending in too few troops to deal with the reality that US forces are a hostile occupation army attempting to impose a miitary dicatorship.

Until Americans come to accept the idea that this military occupation will require millions of US forces, there is no chance of "winning" in Iraq.

And, it is unlikely that a hostile occupation army will ever bring peace or stability to Iraq or the region. The US is currently losing ground in Afghanistan due to the fact Afghanis likewise do not support US forces.

This fiasco is far worse than Vietnam ever was.

And primarily due to the general incompetence of all those involved, including General Petraeus. Obviously, his devotion to the GOP and George Bush has impaired any military ability he might have had.

History is not kind to occupation armies. And will not be kind to this one.

The US "lost" in Iraq (and Afghanistan) when liars prevailed in the "planning" (???) stages.

[mbcsmith]

Another day in Baghdad with no violence. The troop build up is working. Yet the LIB party, the party of DEFEAT, can't seem to acknowledge any progress made. All you LIB posters need to wake up to the possibility of U.S. military success in Iraq. Support the troops by supporting the mission. Good work U.S. military.

[karlimhof]

The request has not yet been made public, according to the report, -

boston globe


I'd prefer to hear it from the horses mouth, not from the Boston-Jerusalem Golbe. thanks anyway.

By the way, is the Boston Globe a member of the "surgers" ?

[karlimhof]

Another day in Baghdad with no violence.

Posted by mbcsmith


you must be reporting from inside the Green Zone.

[nufsedtc5ive]

The truth is now matter how strong your argument is against the Iraq situation there is nothing you can do. You are powerless. The Congress, you elected, is powerless. President Cheney and his puppet George will do what they want. The next republican president will pick up where this adminstration left off. So just pay your taxes and take it.

[bluestardad]

GRAB YOUR ANKLES AMERICA BUSH IS GOING TO INSERT THE DICKTATER IN A LOT FARTHER BEFORE HE GETS OFF!

HERE ARE THE SENATORS UP FOR REELECTION IN 08 WRITE THEM OR QUIT COMPLAINING!

See if Israel will let America out of Iraq?

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm


Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Baucus, Max- (D - MT)
Biden, Joseph R., Jr.- (D - DE)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Durbin, Richard- (D - IL)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Harkin, Tom- (D - IA)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
Johnson, Tim- (D - SD)
Kerry, John F.- (D - MA)
Landrieu, Mary L.- (D - LA)
Lautenberg, Frank R.- (D - NJ)
Levin, Carl- (D - MI)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Pryor, Mark L.- (D - AR)
Reed, Jack- (D - RI)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Rockefeller, John D., IV- (D - WV)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

If you think Americas sacrifice is worth it contact your ELECTED OFFICIAL and tell them http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

The House Speakers email address: [e-mail]

[rsoxfan1123]

It looks like forcing all of those other geenrals into retirement and putting people like Petraeus in there was perfect for Bush. All of the "unpatriotic" generals that were honest with him and told him how stupid an escalation is are gone and replaced by bobbleheads that are slowly but surely recreating Viet Nam for us. It's a shame Junior never had the nuts to go to Viet Nam and hid behind his Daddy's money instead. Maybe he would see things differently had he not been such a coward.

[clestes-2009]

mbcsmith Take a look at the bigger picture. First of all, there is plenty of violence in Baghdad, it just isn't being reported as "troop violence". Second the rate in violence in cities just outside Baghdad is skyrocketing. The insurgents have simply moved to another place. They have not been defeated.

Thirdly, if things are going so well, why are more troops needed and more after that and after that.

You Bush supporters are so desperate for any good news, you will believe anything.

[crater7]

baldfrog: Your comment hit the target. The only part I disagree with is, there are not enough "MAYAN PRIEST", OR ALL THE PRIEST IN THE WORLD, THAT CAN CLEANSE THE EVIL DEEDS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.

[rsoxfan1123]

You Bush supporters are so desperate for any good news, you will believe anything.
Posted by clestes

Don't forget, this administration was actually caught planting fake news in the Baghdad newspapers. That says a lot for their credibility.

[mbcsmith]

clestes

What is your evidence of violence in Baghdad not being reported? What is your evidence of violence outside Baghdad "skyrocketing"? The LIB press WANTS to report all things bad, but they can't seem to find it.
More troops are needed to clear and hold, so that rebuilding can take place.

[bigsk8fan]

I read so many postings by pro-Bush, pro-War Americans that I have come to the conclusions that they need 50,000 Americans to die before they will ever consider changing their opinions. I am now also a proponent that when W leaves office, the next President should NOT protect him. The existing War Crimes Trials that are going on should be allowed to go on unimpeded by the next President. What we really need is to see just how "just and legal" W's war and cause are in Iraq. If it is legal, then W will win a War Crimes Trial. If we have somehow attacked a country that did not attack us, did not aid Al Qaeda, and did not possess WMDs, then he should be found guilty. And he should suffer the same fate as all other War Criminals. That's fair!

[golfkt]

And just WHO would be the prosecutors of the War crimes trial...we are NOT signatories to the ICC AND we should not be....
We will NEVER allow that to happen and should NEVER allow that to happen...

[golfkt]

And just WHO would be the prosecutors of the War crimes trial...we are NOT signatories to the ICC AND we should not be....
We will NEVER allow that to happen and should NEVER allow that to happen...

[obiquital]

Umm... baldfrog, maybe you should read up on your Vietnam War history. When we had the troops there we were winning every major battle. Near the end we were even winning over the hearts and minds of the people. Problem was, some idiot thought it was a good idea to let the North Vietnamese army stay in South Vietnam after the peace treaty was signed. And then what was even better was that we didn't provide the air support to the South Vietnamese that we promised we would do after the North Vietnamese broke the peace treaty. That American air power could have decimated the North Vietnamese army that was fighting a conventional style war at that point. And that is the type of war that we are exceedingly good at.

[rsoxfan1123]

I read so many postings by pro-Bush, pro-War Americans that I have come to the conclusions that they need 50,000 Americans to die before they will ever consider changing their opinions
Posted by bigsk8fan

Look again at these people. They will never give up. Some of them even say that pulling out of Viet Nam was a mistake. We'd still be THERE if these people ahd their way. As long as bush (or his replacement) says we should be there, they will follow like mindless zombies and refuse to consider the possiblity that this is a mistake.

[rsoxfan1123]

And just WHO would be the prosecutors of the War crimes trial...we are NOT signatories to the ICC AND we should not be....
Posted by golfkt

In other words, who polices the police? It's a mess. I'd say start with impeachment proceedings and go from there. If there is an impeachment based on war crimes then turn the traitors over to the ICC. They'll deserve what they get.

[dallison7]

Again, not doing our troops any justice at all who are giving you the right to bash your president and live comfortably here in the USA without a suicide bomber running through your neighborhood sidewalks.
Posted by singinrick at



Don't you just hate it when those little pri*cks run through your neighborhood sidewalks? We used to set '**** traps' for them in my neighborhood... caught a few too! Course that all changed when Bush invaded another country. I guess they figure they don't need to mess with us Americans anymore, those people in that 'other country' will keep us busy.

[mbcsmith]

Look again at these people. They will never give up. Some of them even say that pulling out of Viet Nam was a mistake. We'd still be THERE if these people ahd their way. As long as bush (or his replacement) says we should be there, they will follow like mindless zombies and refuse to consider the possiblity that this is a mistake.
Posted by rsoxfan1123 at 09:57 AM : Mar 16, 2007


More drivel from the LIB DEFEATIST party. Not once have I seen a LIB post praising the good work of our soldiers or the progress being made. It is against their agenda for the U.S. to succeed. Some might think they are rooting for the ENEMY!.

[Syndicate]

I Need at least the equivalent to the number killed in car crashes since the begining of the war. Which is now at about 200,000 and never reported. If you put the death toll in perspective you see that its really low considering what is trying to be accomplished. Iraq is actually safer than our roads.

[rsoxfan1123]

cbscrash07-you really need to show up at the funerals and read that to the families of the dead. Maybe you could stop by Walter Reed while you're at it. Your diminishment of the value of human life is appalling.

[dallison7]

Iraq is actually safer than our roads.
Posted by cbscrash07

You should, by all means, park your pickup and enlist!

[rsoxfan1123]

You should, by all means, park your pickup and enlist!
Posted by dallison7

I think he has the perfect eulogy for the republicans to read...

[golfkt]

No, you don't start impeach proceedings because you disagree with a policy...rather you must have a clear breach of the law...There is no breach of the law...intelligence gathering and interpreatation is an art, not a science...so someone would never be impeached because intelligence was interpreted incorrectly....especially in light of 9/11...impeachment would start here...and NO congress in the land (demi/repub) would advocate turning over any President to the ICC.. that WILL not happen...
I don't know if you fully comprehend war crimes issues...and the politics surrounding same..

One reason why we don't submit to ICC....

[rsoxfan1123]

golfkt-you provide an excellent example of the slipperiness of these thugs. I am sure they thought the semantics through thoroughly prior to attacking. Their semantic intepretation involves the death, mutilation and economic devastation of our nation as opposed to a *******, however. If they are as innocent as you claim and simply made mistake after mistake after mistake then they are surely incompetent.

[lars008-2009]

Appeal for Redress
Sign this Appeal.
This site is an Appeal For Redress in support of our mission in Iraq.
An Appeal For Redress is an authorized means for active duty military to submit a grievance to Congress. It can be signed by Active Duty, Reserve, or National Guard military personnel.
It is authorized by DoD Directive 1325.6 and DoD Directive 7050.6.
The wording of the Appeal for Redress is:
As an American currently serving my nation in uniform, I respectfully urge my political leaders in Congress to fully support our mission in Iraq and halt any calls for retreat. I also respectfully urge my political leaders to actively oppose media efforts which embolden my enemy while demoralizing American support at home. The War in Iraq is a necessary and just effort to bring freedom to the Middle East and protect America from further attack.
If you are active duty, reservist or national guard, please Sign this Appeal.
Most service members fully support the war in Iraq and feel calls to retreat by Congress and attacks by our media on our conduct and mission act to motivate our enemy while demoralizing our support at home, directly increasing the threat we face and resulting in greater American casualties. This Appeal for Redress provides a way in which individual service members can appeal to Congress to fully support us and actively oppose media attacks on our mission and our morale.
This Appeal will be delivered to members of Congress.
http://www.appealforcourage.org/

[grazinggoat]

...If you put the death toll in perspective you see that its really low considering what is trying to be accomplished. Iraq is actually safer than our roads.
Posted by cbscrash07

-BScrutch07
why don't you move your a$$ there!

[grazinggoat]

Gen. David Petraeus, R U sure 2500 are enough? why don't you put the number at 5000, after negotiation with American Moms and dads they may agree on givin' away 2500 of their kids. Why don't you ask the Walking-Liar two daughters to join in?

[dallison7]

QUAGMIRE ACCOMPLISHED!!

[lars008-2009]

there is no peace with fascist nazi islam%u2026.. there never has been in it%u2019s 1400 year existence%u2026

dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone....

gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses.....

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....

In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2007/691/
http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2002_winter_spring/terrorism.htm

[tank611]

QUOTE:

'You should, by all means, park your pickup and enlist'

So anyone who isn't serving in the military is not allowed to have an opinion about the war? 98% of Americans are not serving in the military. So you're saying 98% of Americans don't get to have an opinion on the war?

[rsoxfan1123]

Tank611-no, what he is saying is it is easy to talk like a bigshot when you are not the one losing your arm, leg or head.

[bildooreilly]

The only reason the death count isn't quite so high is because of better body armor than in previous wars, however the body armer doesn't protect the limbs and the head. So while the death toll is lower there's lots and lots of very severely injured people coming back from this escapade. The media and the government doesn't want to talk about that.

[lars008-2009]

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! March 23, 1775 Patrick Henry

[dallison7]

So anyone who isn't serving in the military is not allowed to have an opinion about the war? 98% of Americans are not serving in the military. So you're saying 98% of Americans don't get to have an opinion on the war?
Posted by Tank611


You haven't served, but the casualties are acceptable to you!!

BUZZ OFF, MAGGOT!!

[randalds]

More targets for the civil war participants to shoot at and blow up. More cannon fodder (or in this case IED fodder) to replace all the troops Bush has already murdered or condemned to life long disability. Mission creep accomplished. Once again we've been lied to about this so-called "surge" which as it turns out is nothing more then an extended increase in troops and with more then they said it'd be. Next week they'll ask for a few thousand more and so on and until we're above 200,000. Then if they bring any out they'll puff up their lying fu*cking chest and proclaim it as a troop reduction.

[bluestardad]

HERE ARE THE SENATORS UP FOR REELECTION IN 08 WRITE THEM ASK THEM IF ISRAEL WILL LET AMERICA BRING HER TROOPS HOME!

The Israeli PAC owns those who fight hardest to keep America in Iraq! Grow some balls and check it out yourself on this link!

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join_aipacClubs.htm


Alexander, Lamar- (R - TN)
Allard, Wayne- (R - CO)
Baucus, Max- (D - MT)
Biden, Joseph R., Jr.- (D - DE)
Chambliss, Saxby- (R - GA)
Cochran, Thad- (R - MS)
Coleman, Norm- (R - MN)
Collins, Susan M.- (R - ME)
Cornyn, John- (R - TX)
Craig, Larry E.- (R - ID)
Dole, Elizabeth- (R - NC)
Durbin, Richard- (D - IL)
Enzi, Michael B.- (R - WY)
Graham, Lindsey- (R - SC)
Hagel, Chuck- (R - NE)
Harkin, Tom- (D - IA)
Inhofe, James M.- (R - OK)
Johnson, Tim- (D - SD)
Kerry, John F.- (D - MA)
Landrieu, Mary L.- (D - LA)
Lautenberg, Frank R.- (D - NJ)
Levin, Carl- (D - MI)
McConnell, Mitch- (R - KY)
Pryor, Mark L.- (D - AR)
Reed, Jack- (D - RI)
Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
Rockefeller, John D., IV- (D - WV)
Sessions, Jeff- (R - AL)
Smith, Gordon H.- (R - OR)
Stevens, Ted- (R - AK)
Sununu, John E.- (R - NH)
Warner, John- (R - VA)

If you think Americas sacrifice is worth it contact your ELECTED OFFICIAL and tell them http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

The House Speakers email address: [e-mail]

[feelfree1]

Please support the March 17, 2007 march on the Pentagon, demanding that the cowards, liars, and traitors who occupy that building abandon the illegal war of aggression against Iraq, cancel plans for an illegal war of aggression against Iran, and calling for the impeachment, sentencing, and imprisonment of the megalomaniacal Bush regime.

www.notinourname.net/content/view/16/1/

Don%u2019t forget the huge rallies planned for March 18th, 2007, in a city or town near you. Our rights must be constantly exercised, or they will wither and atrophy.

Please consider signing the following petition, calling for an immediate end to the U.S. inflicted debacle in Iraq.

www.ipetitions.com/petition/OutNow

For incomparable coverage of these, and other various worldwide actions, please visit:

www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml

[sharncedar]

This just in : 1,000,000 private contractors hired in support of surge of 20,000

The military has announced they will be hiring 1,000,000 "war contractors" to go to Iraq in a support role for the surge, to support the 20,000 troops that make up the actual surge. "This is not a troop buildup," says General Lie, "we are hiring contractors, not soldiers, and they are only there to support the active troops by carrying out combat missions and so forth."

The contractors will be given US uniforms and equipment, and be administered by the army staff. They are not regular soldiers, however, military officials stress, because they will not receive any medical benefits and their wives will be given to rich men to rape while they are in Iraq.

[lars008-2009]

the war is legal

the resumption of hostilities was only a matter of time since iraq broke the ceasefire agreement.....

blame saddam for iraq........ even clintoon and the demonic-rats wanted to resumption of hostilities back in 1998

[musty2u]

Certainly is lovely when a plan comes together. All you anti-war, anti-Bush, bleeding hearts make me sick with your wanting to see us pull out right away. In due time, the troops will return. Just don't be so impatient.

[jerr11]

Once again the two posterboys of bravery, "Alabama Bush" and "Deferment Cheney" are herding more young Americans to the slaughterhouse.

And those who are cheering this on are every bit as culpable of this crime of deception and greed as the two main perpetrators themselves.

[musty2u]

No crime, sorry Charlie, NATO even had a say in what happened. This is part of the clean up. There is still lots of toys to play with and military careers to advance.

[jerr11]

Certainly is lovely when a plan comes together.

Posted by Musty2U at 04:20 PM : Mar 16, 2007

And what a plan!

First, plant the seed of fear (the next attack might be in the form of a mushroom cloud)

Next, doctor the intel (and out any CIA operative who might try to expose the deception)

Then, invade Iraq, (forget Afghanistan and the War on Terror because there ain't no oil in Kabul)

Next, send billions of American taxpayer money over to rebuild the country.

Finally and here's the brilliant stroke of genius, send Halliburton over to harvest the no-bid contracts. What an unexpected windfall! ;-) ;-)

Certainly is lovely when a plan comes together.

[randalds]

Once again the two posterboys of bravery, "Alabama Bush" and "Deferment Cheney" are herding more young Americans to the slaughterhouse.

And those who are cheering this on are every bit as culpable of this crime of deception and greed as the two main perpetrators themselves.
Posted by jerr11 at 04:34 PM : Mar 16, 2007

And every bit as gutless yellow-bellied cowards as Bush and Cheney too. How easy it is for them to send other peoples children off to die in the insane absurdity or a war for profit. Everyone of troops that dies is dying just to put money in the bank accounts of defense contractors (read war profiteers) and big oil and if you think Bush and Cheney aren't getting a kickback somewhere then you're living in a fantasy world. This not a war, it's a war crime and Bush and Cheney are the thieves in charge. The blood of our young people is a price they're more then happy to pay to fatten their bank accounts.